Disclaimer: those "bottleneck" calculators arent accurate at all,they just get some numbers out of their ass on a game they chosen,actually look and dont use the calculator,like a example of the i512400f and 4070 ti,they say its cpu bottleneck for a game like 50 dollars,but on all games it isnt,so dont trust those calculators,they are spreading bs.
Yeah, might be. Cause I got a r3 1200, rx 580 and it showed that there was no bottleneck but no headroom for a better gpu either. Then I got a rx5600xt and benchmarked on furmark it just to see my fps doubled with seemingly no problems. Though, I do find r3 1200 not a very strong cpu, that evaluation where rx 580 was the limit for it seemed to be wrong.
fr zachs builds on his website apparenty bottleneck according to the bs calculator. plus there own suggested combos bottleneck to like wtf so idk how zach would even recommend that
@@edelzocker8169That’s not true… the CPU will load something as fact as it can. A game, OS, image, video, etc will load faster on a sata SSD than an HDD, just like it will load faster on an NVME SSD than a SATA SSD. People buy more expensive drives for more speed, more capacity, or both. Try loading a game on a SATA SSD vs a NVME SSD. The NVME will load a ton faster, which is always desired.
With bottleneck calculators: their results vary a lot due to different games utilizing the cpu and gpu differently. Also, unless you are planning to completely replace your PC every time you want to upgrade, you should have what those websites consider to be a GPU bottleneck, as GPUs are both easier to replace and faster to lose their value than CPUs
Given the price of gpus yes, you'll almost always have a gpu bottleneck, unelss you have a very old cpu, but even something like a 2013 xeon or even an i5 2500k will still perform very well with any gpu. (Though you might have issues with gpus which use an 8x instead of a 16x slot with cpus which don't support pcie4) The main thing you need a powerful cpu for is shader compilation and downloading.
Just play 10 year old games. I "over built" my rig, r5 3600 and a 1080ti, and all i really play is osu. Coulda saved a few dollars and gotten a ryzen 3 and a 1050, or even smaller
@@Spartan-3144 you're still pretty well future proofed with that if you ever decide to try other games. My dad was using a 1080 (non ti) for a while and only upgraded to an RX 6750 because of Ark Survival Ascended. (And I was using a GTX 970 and only upgraded to RX 6750 because of Wayland on Linux not liking the 970 and wanting to do PCVR)
When I started to search all the components for my first pc build, I didn’t know any of these were the right sites to use, but I used them anyway. Now I know that I made the right choices without even knowing it 😂
I would not really trust a bottleneck calculator. One website told me that my 5600 and 6700XT combo has a 22% CPU bottleneck, but then another website tells me it's 9% and the bottleneck is somehow the... GPU? Either way, don't trust them TOO much
@@idkspaceyi run a 10th gen i3 and a 5600 non-xt on my $300 travel pc and i still lock at 60fps 1080p on ultra settings for some games and high for the rest
I would recommend a gpu comparison chart as some people are only familiar with NVIDIA but after knowing they want to build with amd just knowing how good the amd card actually is for it’s price
As a rule of thumb add your cpu+gpu tdp, add 50W and double it, and you should be fine. (Though intel cpus doesn't respect their tdp at all and will be happy drawing 250W on a 100W rated chip as long as it has cooling, so it can be off) So for a 200W gpu with a 150W cpu, that's 400*2 or 800W, though a 700 or 750W would most likely be fine, having a bit of leeway is better. You'll probably get a psu that is overkill with that, but you'll avoid issues like (iirc) 3080 gpus taking twice their rated power for short amounts of time and causing issues. If you're short on cash, sure, get a closer one, but imo it's worth getting a good power supply and not worrying about it for the next 10 years.
@@satibelMy build uses 475w and I just don’t have enough money to get a better power supply so my is 650w I figured that would be just fine, also my first build ever. Also what do you think of Newegg that’s what I used to build my pc.
Also rule of thumb, if its for gaming you need to get the strongest gpu you can get, dont cheap out on the gpu, even tho the current market is not that great. A lower usage of your GPU means you get lower response times (time from input to resulting frame displayed). Tho you can use nvidia reflex, and amd has its own anti-lag, the better your gpu, the more responsive your game feels
for reference, typically speaking anything below $800 would be considered budget and anything closer to the $1000 point would be mid range, then anything above like $1300 would be considered high end imo.
This works well, but there's also other websites that use a pricewatch for the cheapest price possible on websites that are usually searched in your country.
the cultists network PSU list hasn't been updated for a while so a lot of the new ATX 3.0 / PCIE5 PSUs aren't on there - the good news is that brand name builders have generally gotten much better with build quality and component selection in the newer releases so you're likely getting A tier for any PSU above $90
Bottleneck calculators don't work and also PSU tier list on many cases give products E, because they can't find any reviews, so they just place good units on low tiers.
The bottleneck calculator told me my CPU was too weak but then I hopped into some games and got 80% gpu usage and 20% cpu usage. Dont use bottleneck calculators it really depends on the game amd what settings you use
Too late this came to me, but I'll save anyway bc it's really useful lol. Btw I'm super happy with my upgraded setup right now, and on how my research worked out. This new tools definitely will help on future researches! Thanks 😁😊
I am building a gaming pc out of used parts I happen to have lying around. i7 6700, 16 gb ddr4, rtx 2060, some asus mainboard to hold it all together. The case is from a very old computer, but it has the right size and is so basic that it’s easy to paint and modify. Since it has space for it maybe I will add a Blu-ray, DVD and a floppy drive, lol. Oh yeah, and 2x 1tb sata ssd for good measure. It’s really amazing what people throw away nowadays. I still need a PSU and a CPU cooler and those I will buy brand new.
average price finder site was very off on the price off the GPU i tried, saying the lowest was £65 yet when you go to look there was not one at that price, as it seems the site is using starting prices of ones selling and we all know the starting price does not mean you get it for that price.
The fundamental problem with a bottleneck calculator is that such calculations are ENTIRELY SPECIFIC to a particular game. You can't generalize. Each and every game has a unique combination of cpu amd gpu need. They're NOT in any way applicable to other games even in the exact same genre. Which unfortunately means they're completely useless. And I do mean **completely**
Built my new pc today. After getting it all assembled and installing windows 11 on it, the pc shut itself off while I was in BIOS and refused to post since.
I'm not so sure about that bottleneck calculator, I have a i5-6500 and it told me that the bottleneck on a 6600 would be 0% and this is DEFINITELY not the case, my CPU is constantly bottlenecking my gpu
Is there also a scam detector? Got scammed from 10 sellers on ebay that sold 2060s i got them, they looked dusty and died after a week of ultra light usage while the seller claimed it was not used for mining and also he cared for them well
My first pc was a single core intel p4 2.4ghz. 256mb ram. 80gig hdd. 64mb intel vram. 1024x768 15 " samsung crt monitor. Today My mobile is 100 times powerful than that. Great how times change.
see the 7900xtx performs better in games and get more fps then 4080 if u want to do streaming and turn on raytracing in games get 4080 but if u only care about fps and dont use raytracing get 7900xtx@@kuba23602
@@kuba23602 If you do not care much about certain exclusive features from Nvidia, want raw performance, want to save money, and your actual needs do not justify paying a higher cost, then AMD is your answer.
@@teknativo thanks for the answer I went with Radeon 7900xtx because, It was 200€ cheaper And so far I'm happy with my choice Maybe I'm gonna switch back to Nvidia When the rtx 5000 Series comes out But until then I'm Gonna go with AMD
@@kuba23602 Thanks for replying! There are so many variables to consider when upgrading or building a PC, but always is better to disect the real needs with points/questions and then you go from there to get a clear answer, or at least the best choice at that particular moment.
The bottleneck calculator tells me the i9 13900K will be bottlenecking the RTX 4090. So basically nobody should be getting the 4090 until 14th or 15 gen releases.
for a gaming pc do i upgrade my i7 11800H, RTX 3050 or my 16GB DDR4? for 1080p roblox shooter games at max settings on a 165HZ monitor? please make a video🥺🥺🥺
That bottleneck calculator is nonsense, it says a 5800x3d will bottleneck a 3080 60% in UWQHD for a lot of games. No, for no game will it ever bottle neck a 3080.
I feel so stupid I think I said on a recent video to stick with a tear when building a computer which is fine, but I think I also said we’re better yet S tier 😂😂😂
