That's a brilliant idea for a quick on/off table, watching you sit on the bandsaw at the end, just gave me the idea, to knock up a removable seat, that can fit over the end, something clean, and comfortable for my boney bum;). Thanks, Winky, Scott.
Love your build, going to copy it !!! LOL !!! I will probably incorporate a seat into it as I am kind of old and spoiled. I like padding in my chairs !!! This is the best build I have ever seen for such a band saw. Tim
Winky, You did a great job on the vertical conversion. Use what you have. I had 1 1/2" 11 G tubing and a piece of 1/4" plate. The beautyy is in the quick change. Thanks for getting this idea out for the home hobbyists with only a horizontal bandsaw. H.R. Helm AKA Rough Rooster
Love it, I was fixing to buy a small portaband and make a table for that. Now I think I will make something similar for my horizontal bandsaw. I think I got just enough 2 inch square tube for the project.
Mark I love it. I am just gona go ahead and give it the Idea of the year award. I also like the jig you made for the mill. I will definitely make one of these for my saw. That is when i can get my shop door open. It has been frozen for over a week. One thing I may add to my saw table is an adjustable rip guide so i can rip or cut at an angle. Would be pretty easy using the concept of the mill jig you showed us. To quote you " I LIKE IT ! "
I've been wanting one of these for several years but really never NEEDED one. I found one in almost brand new condition at a yard sale for $30 dollars. I did some cleanup (light rust), out on a new blade and put 140w gear oil in the gearbox. The mods you made to yours are really cool, but mine cuts through completely. This table, though. Wow! What a great design. Thank you!
That arrangement makes it very nice where you can sit on the base and operate the saw vertically. Very nice indeed. This is a good upgrade again. Also, it seems like most all of my projects some how start at the band saw. I don't know if that is true for most other people but for our type of work that is how it goes. Thank you for sharing this one.
Now this is one of those, "Why didn't I think of that", projects. I've been tinkering on ideas to put a table on my horizontal bandsaw, but was concerned that it will take to long to install and remove. This is just brilliant. I will be making a copy of this. Hope you don't mind?
I like it. Solid design resting on the saw base, much better than all the others I have seen. Looks like you could have built in a seat with out much trouble. Or make one that slips into the tube steel running from front to back.
This is a great design your viewer came up with. It is so easy to install and remove. Yuchol at Woods Creek Workshop posted a video earlier about making a table for a 4" × 6" horizontal bandsaw also. I'm heading that way. Anyone who doesn't know his channel should take a look. Your shop is really looking good Winky.
@@WinkysWorkshop It was kinda funny when I looked at my in box, two videos on the same subject. He tackled some of the same things. Since the table you did is so unique I gave your video a shout out. Have a good evening Winky.
I like that! I don't have a welder but, now I have an excuse to buy one. That is far more steady that the bolt on versions others have shown. Plus, it takes seconds to change instead of minutes. Also, less frustration from when one or both of the screws that hold the other tables in place fall on the floor and disappear!
Great solution Winky, I have some 4" light i beam that is sitting around asking for a project, I am sure the soninlaw could use one too, thanks, cheers!
@@WinkysWorkshop well all of them, I haven't seen any videos on the bandsaw until you did a couple and now everyone and his dog are doing them. Wear a big bowtie in your next video and see if anyone copies you, like Oscar Wilde said "imitation is a form of flattery" I think they're all jealous because they can't do your 'Winky's Waddle' dance.
Look at that and it works great too. I hadn't seen that video. I found some bandsaw tables (an actual table from a scrapped saw) on ebay, but they would need to have a corner cut out to fit around the vertical support and I just couldn't bring myself to do such a thing to a table. Just me I guess. But, they do come with the trunnions for tilting. So you can easily just lift the table off the saw when you're done. That was ingenious.
A table that rests on the horizontal surface of the main casting is a great idea. It should be very solid. One thing that I might suggest would be one or two pins on the vertical tube that fit into hole(s) in that flat top surface. That would add more lateral stability to the mount while keeping the fast attachment/detachment feature. Paul A.
It never moves but it might help to have a guide. You have to make a little effort to make sure the slot it lined up with the blade. Honestly, it might be easier to make a stop that hits the fixed vise jaw. Yes I love this table and use it a lot.
If mine didn't have a way to do this already, for about $25 worth of parts from Grizzly, I would be out in my shed building this. A very nice, and fairly easy build.
I know I'm a little late on this but better late than never, I really like the add on table quick and easy will make one real soon, could you post a video on the wood stand that the band saw is setting on need to make one of these for the saw that I have now, have had this saw for about 14 years and this is my second one good saws for the money, you do good on the videos have watched some several times and most of the others. hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Thanks! Yeah, maybe I'll do a short video on the table. It's basically just a slab with legs. I cut a large hole in the bottom to access the bolts on the vise. I mounted it to the table with 3/8" rods and screw eyes. There were holes in the base to slide the 3/8 bar through. If you look close in the video you'll see the screw eyes.
@@WinkysWorkshop Thanks for the reply but I just finished watching part 3 of your CBN grinder build and in the video there were more clearer photos of the saw base just what I needed believe I will build mine a little different the CBN grinder looks good.
@@williamdavis4268 Your welcome. Honestly the only reason I made the wood stand is I wanted the saw lower so it would fit under my outfeed table for my table saw.
I mounted my platform on the lower bearing block, It's about 4"x5" and clears when in horizontal use. Mine is very similar but the block is different, not sure you would have the meat to tap into that piece.
Glad to see this video. Been wanting to build a table for my portable band saw, but I like the idea using the stationary band saw better. Do you have the measurements of the square tubing.
Innovative design, glad I stumbled upon this page. My saw was second-hand, and the platform was missing altogether. I've been looking for a replacement, but they're hard to find. However, I'm glad I had no luck, as this is far superior to the standard option. I have all the metal I need except for the platform itself, so I'll be ordering some stock later. What thickness did you use? 4mm 5mm?
Great video and that is a nice table. I had thought of making a table thick enough to use a miter gauge on but not until I get the blade to stay on for a whole day. None of my business but don't you think you should be welding and grinding a bit further away from the mill?
Very interesting sham you did not finish . the build project with the built in seat , I did that to my Build, because of my arthritis. siting impotent i used & tractor seat. side in seat .bourse I had build 2" box chase for the saw years earlier because it was Unstable on the legs it came with. Les England
"A good welder doesn't need a grinder" is true, unless he's prepping his metal for welding. I was on a job where a weld I had seen looked like the welder was welding between rain drops. It wasn't structural, but it was sure amateurish. A grinder wouldn't have helped in this case. It's fascinating watching you do your projects.
Old video, but if you run into issues with the slot you added, you could add a larger slot around the perimeter of that one that isn't cut all the way through. Then have a plastic insert or something that slides in from the back. Although with it being welded up already that ship may have sailed!
@@WinkysWorkshop essentially, a shallow "counterbore" of the slot. And then stick something down in that counterbore. Which would effectively close up the slot when in use. Very similar to the table inserts used on regular vertical bandsaws
@@caseysmith1718 OH! Got ya. The table is 3/16" and seems to be very solid but I could probably bore a 3/8" hole and install a short screw from the bottom.
Hi Winky! I’ve got my hands on an similar bandsaw, But there is a problem with it tho. The blade keeps coming off. I’ve tried to align adjust it for hours without any luck. So my question is, are the running edge for the blade at your wheels 90degrees? It sure looks like that. Mine are slight angled towards the inner ledge.. It looks like someone modified the wheels before I’ve got it.. Thank you for your great videos! Best wishes!!
If I'm understanding you correctly yes. The surface on the edge of the wheels is parallel to the wheel axal. Maybe I misunderstood... The best way to align the blade is to remove both guides completely. Get the blade tracking right and make sure the blade is just barely kissing the back ledge on the wheels. It's okay if there is a small gap on one wheel but if its touching one wheel and a more than 1/8" away from the ledge on the other then you need to move one of the wheels in out out (and i have never done that). The next step is to make the back vise jaw parallel to the pivot shaft that the head moved on. Now assuming the blade is tracking right the next step is to install the guides so that the blade rotates vertical around the center of the blade. In other words, the teeth on the blade need to move right and the back edge needs to move left the same amount. It doesn't need to be perfect but close as possible. Then move the guides so that the back edge bearings just barely touch the back of the blade. Now make test cuts and rotate the guides as needed to make it cut straight. If the saw is cutting off in a rotational axis looking down on the saw move the guides slightly in and out to make it straight (not the vise jaw). If the saw does not complete the cut and you can't make the shut off switch work right buy an elevating plate on my web store. I had the same problem with keeping the blade on because the guides were deflecting the blade downward to make the cut complete which is not the right way to fix the problem. Hope this helps.
@@WinkysWorkshop Thank you! i guess someone had modified my wheels so the edge is not paralell with the center axis, its bigger in diameter in the front of the wheel and smaller in the back close to the ledge.. i guess i have to turn them parallel to the axis on the late and start over from there.. i have also tried without the guides with no luck... Thank you again for you time and for your tips!
@@buildsstuffoutofscrap Wow... so I understood correctly. that is wild. Tracking in band saw, sanding belts and flat belts confuse a lot of people. I'd say somebody shaped the wheel like that thinking the blade would travel toward the back ledge and not fall off. In the case of the horizontal band saws the wheels are flat but vertical saws and all belts have a crowned roller. The blade, belt or where ever will always go to the high part
@@WinkysWorkshop Haha! yeah you got it right, it is not the easiest thing, to undersand my swengish! :) Today i got it running smooth, turned the wheels flat on the lathe. and made some new bushings to allign the wheels perfect. it runs like a dream now.. Thank you Winky for your time and help! Keep on Rocking!
@@buildsstuffoutofscrap Good that you had a lathe large enough to turn the wheels. Glad is worked out. I used to work for a printing company and part of my responsibility was belts. Belt tracking is fairly easy. The belt will always try to center on the highest part of a roller. Where is gets weird is when a belt stretches or the manufactures doesn't put crowns on the rollers. Wider belts are a lot more sensitive too. We had one press that had trouble with four different 12" wide belts. They only ran a couple of days before running into the conveyor frames. I loosened the belts and put one 2" wide strip of masking tape in the middle (about 2 layers) and the belts ran for years.
A lot of people put a lot of effort in reducing the width of the slot in the table. How about a replaceable al you min e um piece to fit at the base of your machined slot with a blade width slot ?
I was thinking something similar like bolting a plate on top of the blade guide. I sort of like the wider gap in the table just because it makes it easy to install.
In the Douglas Adams (of "Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" fame) book "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" there's a paragraph that goes "“It is a rare mind indeed that can render the hitherto non-existent blindingly obvious. The cry of "I could have thought of that" is a very popular and misleading one, for the fact is that they didn't"............ I currently can't see properly due to the blinding flash of the obvious you've just hit me with. :D I don't have a normal band saw. I want one, but I REALLY don't have room for one...... but I DO have a portable band saw that came with a stand. I once pondered about the possibility of mounting a small table to one of the blade guides, but realised quickly that it wouldn't be strong enough to have a hope in hell of working. Now it seems all I'd need to do to turn that into a baby desktop bandsaw is drill and tap a hole in the stands pivot mounting plates so I can lock the saw vertically, then copy what you've done. For some strange reason, the idea of using the original clamp on the base to support a table didn't even register as an option ! The person who originally thought this up is a bonifide friggin' genius !!! :D
Agree.! Ha, I'm not sure the guy the showed it to me was the originator but I'm going to cut and past your comment and send it to him. I occasionally have moments of original insight but not often. I retired two years ago from a job where I was designing machine improvements on printing presses. I usually had 3 or 4 projects going at once and I would ovoid looking at options offered by the printing industry. I occasionally spent 10 to 20 hours on cad drawings only to find out that somebody else had already designed a better fix. However, by not looking at other designed I was sometimes able to design a very original and better fix. Once you see a solution you overlook other possibilities. This also explains why well educated engineers quite often overlook possibilities. I had no education in engineering and it always motivated me when an engineer said, "that won't work". Most often I proved them wrong.
@@WinkysWorkshop Well, I WAS a trained engineer (Who promptly decided to become a carpet fitter after finishing my training, and when I got bored of that spent 20 years in IT hardware fault finding. :) ). You saying you're not a trained engineer makes me think of another RU-vid channel. The channels named after the host "Ivan Miranda", and dispite his presenting style being a bit reminiscent of a hyperactive puppy, I find him very entertaining to watch, and his projects tend to be the sort of things you'd have gave anything to own as a child. His channel started out with him making stuff on 3D printers, then making bigger 3D printers to print bigger things. Recently he built himself a large CNC router table, and the few things he's made on it so far have been quite an eye opener to me. As you mentioned, being trained as an engineer puts blinkers on you. Being taught "The right way" to do things means you rarely look beyond that for alternative options. Ivan Miranda didn't come into machining via a conventional route, he came to the world of CNC machining metal from a place where you build your parts up layer by layer. He's used to a material that won't really work with threaded holes, doesn't cope well with heavy loads, and you have to add material where you need strength (at the expense of longer print times) rather than removing it from where it's not needed. He's bringing a whole different set of learnt design constraints with him, and seeing how he works things out using his unusual route to machining, and without the blinkers of "The right way" bogging him down, it's shaping up to be a real education in alternative (Though not necessarily better) ways of designing things.
@@roughrooster4750 Well, thanks for the inspiration. It's quite a commitment in money and floor space to buy a proper full sized bandsaw unless it's something you're likely to use a lot. So any cheap and relatively easy to make addon for a tool we already own, that could get us about 90% of a full sized saws functionality, is a pretty outstanding Idea in my book. If I were wearing a hat, I would most definitely be taking it off to you sir. :D
I built exactly the same for my saw quick and dirty out of wood. It worked well. 18 months later I still haven't gone back and made a better one with metal. Stupid "good enough" ruins everything.
6:34 Not to sure that seat is as comfortable as it could be. Also, why not add a 'gas' pedal - to hold down to turn the saw on ? Take your foot off it & it stops !
@@WinkysWorkshop I was thinking more of it being a convenient switch while your hands were busy pushing metal into the blade...carefully ! It'd also give you a very convenient emergency stop.
