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450 Bushmaster vs 45-70 Government Review & Comparison 

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0:00 Intro
1:32 450 Bushmaster vs 45-70 History & Development
11:30 Cartridge Sizes
15:17 Trajectory & Kinetic Energy
18:39 Wind Deflection
19:09 Recoil
20:45 Other Factors: Frontal Area, Sectional Density, & BC
25:33 Ammo Selection
31:16 Rifle Selection
34:22 450 Bushmaster vs 45-70: Which one is right for you?
To learn more about popular calibers like the 450 Bushmaster and 45-70 Government, visit: huntingguns101.com/optin16151...
In this video, I conduct a detailed comparison of the 450 Bushmaster and 45-70 Government cartridges.
Both the 450 Bushmaster and the 45-70 Government are fairly popular .45 caliber centerfire rifle cartridges these days. While there is definitely a lot of overlap in their capabilities, there are some significant differences between the 450 Bushmaster vs 45-70 Government cartridges you should be aware of though.
In fact, despite their big differences in outward appearance, the two cartridges are very similar in performance. Even so, there’s some important differences to keep in mind and each is better suited for different hunting tasks.
In this episode, I discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the 450 Bushmaster vs 45-70 in order to give you the information necessary to choose the right one for your needs.
To read a more detailed comparison of the 450 Bushmaster vs 45-70, visit:
thebiggamehuntingblog.com/450...
Read this before hunting cape buffalo with a 45-70:
thebiggamehuntingblog.com/hun...
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450 Bushmaster vs 45-70
45-70 vs 450 Bushmaster

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Комментарии : 66   
@alexmunn5321
@alexmunn5321 Год назад
I'm a lever guy and love the history behind the 45/70 . And the fact it will drop anything on the North American continent is an added plus. I wouldn't give up my Marlin for nothing.
@CreepyUncleStupid
@CreepyUncleStupid Год назад
i have taken 6 bigfoots with the 450 bashmonster... it is absolutely my favorite squatch stomper
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Haha. Tell me more!
@davidroberts9099
@davidroberts9099 Год назад
I like the breakdown using data and facts to make recommendations. In particular I like how you based recommendations based on use cases with a mix going one way or another. Very well done.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@brianc9374
@brianc9374 4 месяца назад
The Thumper concept was not for hunting. It was about short range combat engagements. It was supposed to be a team with thumpers and 1 soldier armed with a long range scoped bolt rifle. He lays it out in "To Ride, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth".
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog 4 месяца назад
You are indeed correct. Going back and looking at things, I admit I worded that part of the video poorly. It would have been better if I said something along the lines of "the 450 Bushmaster was based on Jeff Cooper's "Thumper" concept with some modifications and was originally designed for hunting large game out to 250 yards."
@brianc9374
@brianc9374 2 месяца назад
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I'm surprised I don't see more online about 450 for bear.
@cristianespinal9917
@cristianespinal9917 Месяц назад
​@@brianc9374 I can tell you it does a great job on black bears. My buddy hunts with a .450 and has taken 2 with it. Neither went more than 30 yards.
@williamyoung2126
@williamyoung2126 Месяц назад
This was the most interesting history lesson on shells I’ve ever heard. Bravo. And thank you. I subscribed as a result !!!
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Месяц назад
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!
@kevinberdine
@kevinberdine Год назад
Another EXCELLENT video! Thanks for all the great information.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@arickhook370
@arickhook370 Год назад
I got a Mossberg Patriot .450 Bushmaster. Love it. Cheap gun, so I'm not banging a $1,200.00+ Henry/Marlin through the woods and elements. 250gr ftx Hornady Black/customs have been droppin the hammer on White tails.
@OsborneExploration
@OsborneExploration 7 месяцев назад
Great video and thank you! I just need to look up pictures of these other cool rifles you were referencing. 👍👍
@sgtmajtrapp3391
@sgtmajtrapp3391 Год назад
I have a couple of Spanish American War issue .45-70-500 Infantry cartridges. Always been a fan of the .45-70 and a hot load using 400 or 405 grain handloads in my 1886 Saddle Ring Carbine.
@toddhuff6007
@toddhuff6007 Год назад
Great job on a very good comparison sir. Have took deer with both here in the mountains of Virginia
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Thanks 👍
@johannesvanhoek9080
@johannesvanhoek9080 Год назад
My preference is the 45-70 , it has always served me well PS. Thank you for the video it was very interesting and informative 👍👍👍👍👍
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@danhandke5012
@danhandke5012 Год назад
Who-Tee-Who sent me. Took 2 whitetail with the 45-70 Henry last year. Love it.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Awesome Dan, glad to have you here! Hope you enjoyed our discussion last night. I'm also a big fan of the 45-70 and I'm glad to hear you've had success with it too!
@usnva5638
@usnva5638 Год назад
Mine is a Traditions 450 Bushmaster. I have been consistently striking 6 inch steel plates at 100 yards using Hornady American Whitetail 245 grain SP loads.
@blauer2551
@blauer2551 7 месяцев назад
Ruger American making clover leafs at 100 using Hornady Black
@vermilliontoaster3063
@vermilliontoaster3063 Год назад
Thank you for this!!
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Any time!
@user-cg1ni7ub9i
@user-cg1ni7ub9i 2 месяца назад
I inherited a Winchester firing the 405 Winchester round . From everything I’ve found it was made for Teddy Rosevelt 3:28
@wendellbell6164
@wendellbell6164 Год назад
Great video. Thank you
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@michaelmcatee221
@michaelmcatee221 Год назад
Great video! I’d consider a .450 bushmaster but I have had bad luck with straight walled cartridges in ARs.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Tell me more about the issues you've had.
@michaelmcatee221
@michaelmcatee221 Год назад
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I got an AR stoner 350 legend barrel from midway USA and it refused to feed. The rounds would get halfway into the chamber and bind up. I tried all the .350 legend mags I could find so I gave gave up and sold all of my .350 stuff and now I distrust straight walled stuff. Bought half a dozen bottle necked barrels and they all work perfectly. Maybe be a fluke but I’m not putting my money on it.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Man that's frustrating. I've heard similar stories. Not sure how common this is, but it's definitely an issue to some extent for some people.
@michaelmcatee221
@michaelmcatee221 Год назад
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I think if I ever put together a deer hunting AR-15 I may go with something like the .300 hammer from Wilson combat. I claims to replicate 30-30 ballistics.
@davewinter2688
@davewinter2688 Год назад
Junk it and get something reliable like one of the inexpensive Ruger bolt actions if you want to shoot those calibers. At least you'll have something fairly accurate and reliable. If you happen to hunt in Iowa see my long main comment.
@RLD454C
@RLD454C 9 месяцев назад
Great video, very informative . Not ever planning on hunting water Buffalo.
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jamesfarmer63
@jamesfarmer63 Год назад
I've got a 45-70 government made by Henary,& so far hogs & black bear,but I plan to take it with me as a back up for my 338 Lapua Magnum either one will take down a brown bear,so I love my 45-70& my 338 LM
@024217697
@024217697 Год назад
illuminating. thank you..
@robcullen9984
@robcullen9984 Год назад
Great info mate Luv my 450 for anything under 150metrea, drops anything in oz at close range , awesome for thick scrub work Cheers Rob in
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Thanks 👍
@scottnaumovski2836
@scottnaumovski2836 Год назад
Thinking of a 450 for buffalo up the territory do you think it will be effective enough
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
The 450 Bushmaster is a recipe for a wounded buffalo, don't do it. There's just not a great selection of bullets for the 450 Bushmaster cartridge that are up to the task of killing a water buffalo or a cape buffalo. The situation is a little better with the 45-70
@scottnaumovski2836
@scottnaumovski2836 Год назад
My other choice I was thinking was 300 win mag
@robcullen9984
@robcullen9984 Год назад
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Agreed mate, sorry my bad, should have probably said anything but buffalo and camel, cheers Rob
@Master-AGN
@Master-AGN Год назад
Interesting, I was considering a lever action in 454 Cassul that for deer and pig. Mainly using hot loaded 45LC and carrying the cassul for bear protection. But then there is the 38-55
@leerichardson8911
@leerichardson8911 3 месяца назад
If you reload, both are incredible bear stompers! 450 bush - 225 grain ftx loaded to 2495 fps = 3109 ft energy but I would load a 300 grain 4570 to max 2,424 fps for 3900 ft pounds for use in bear country. Levers are more reliable than semi auto....but hell I have never shot a griz but have shot a black bear..
@jmc041071
@jmc041071 20 дней назад
Can the 45-70 be pushed to 4000 ft lbs from a lever gun? One creator I asked, said he can get 4000+ ft lbs from the 45-70, but didn't give his recipe.
@donaldrussell4218
@donaldrussell4218 Год назад
If you're 450 BUSHMASTER has a 20in barrel on it. it will shoot a 250 GR bullet 2300 FPS.
@dilorenzopiero5162
@dilorenzopiero5162 Год назад
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@davewinter2688
@davewinter2688 Год назад
Several FYI's: 1. I didn't know SAAMI had raised the MAP for 45-70 to 28,000 psi. I have the latest SAAMI specs using the piezo electric transducer method and you are correct. With that in mind anyone shooting a trapdoor Springfield or Remington Rolling Block had better read the box on whatever factory ammo they're shooting! Prior to that all the major manufacturers kept their 45-70 loads to not over around 24,000 psi. 2. There is published loading data strictly for Ruger Number and Siamese Mauser 45-70 that can push a 400 grain jacketed bullet to over 2000 fps. That comes close to 458 Win Mag and should be plenty good for elk, moose, etc out to somewhat past 200 yards if you know how to sight your rifle and can handle the recoil. Pressures are as high as 50,000 psi. The Ruger Number 1 is not really very heavy with its medium sporter barrel. I think those really heavy load 45-70's in that one would be somewhat punishing to shoot but I don't have any experience with it. Even with standard loads the 1895 Marlin will get your attention. I do have experience with the the early 1970's 1895 both with factory and low and mid power hand loads. I also have a custom Siamese Mauser with a 24" heavy barrel. Even with the extra weight the super heavy loads still DEFINITELY get your attention. 3: Over two years ago Iowa changed it's deer hunting regulations. Those truly straight walled cased cartridges like 45-70 and 444 Marlin are no longer required. They have a minimum 35 caliber through but not over 50 cal and minimum energy requirement for both rifles and hand gun. Using their metric, 35 Remington, 358 Winchester, 35 Whelen and several others are legal. They have a list but state that their published list is not complete. They do include 350 Legend and 450 Bushmaster on their list. If you want to use a 30-30 or other similar powered cartridge that does not meet the minimum (I believe .350 ) bullet diameter regardless of energy and case shape, you're still SOL. To further complicate matters they now allow 223 Remington in AR's in certain zones during certain portions of their deer seasons. Check the Iowa DNR website for details. I'm a former Iowa resident from days long ago when it was shotguns with slugs only so I keep track of their regs in case I go up there to hunt with my relatives. They grow some big, heavy corn fed deer. Other Midwest states like Indiana and Illinois are changing too. Happy hunting boys and girls! 😄
@dilorenzopiero5162
@dilorenzopiero5162 Год назад
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 8 месяцев назад
I own a tiger no.1 450 bushmaster
@warrengreen3217
@warrengreen3217 Год назад
All take the 444marlin
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 Год назад
First yay lol
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog Год назад
Boom!
@keijojaanimets819
@keijojaanimets819 12 дней назад
But why?🥺
@Thebiggamehuntingblog
@Thebiggamehuntingblog 10 дней назад
Why not?
@davidlang80
@davidlang80 4 месяца назад
I own a lot of guns and have shot a lot of guns. I choose the 65 Creedmoor. I call it the laser beam. Nothing can touch it I don't know what it is. But again it's not anything to be compared to these
@jacobfox7981
@jacobfox7981 2 месяца назад
Profound
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