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This Old Tony
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Win some / lose some. Still needs some work, but here's my start on a 4th axis.. you might like following along.

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@innocentemadstat7432
@innocentemadstat7432 4 года назад
In our next build we will be adding a high pressure water cutter to the table. A lot of people think that you need a high end pump for a build like this. They are wrong. For this project all you need is a correctly shaped nozzle, a high pressure garden hose and a 63.26 km high water tank that contains infinite water. I suspect getting the hose will be the hardest part of this build.
@justinblanco7454
@justinblanco7454 8 лет назад
"No blood, good chamfer." -This Old Tony
@doggfite
@doggfite 3 года назад
I think he actually got the from Stefan
@CoincidenceTheorist
@CoincidenceTheorist Год назад
But he didn’t even use “the” ¿
@kirkendauhl6990
@kirkendauhl6990 5 лет назад
Around the 14 minute mark is why I love this channel for more than the humor. I hardly think about planning ahead and it’s such a difficult concept for me to grasp for some reason. But when he puts it down as “order of operations” it becomes way more clear about how I should approach things. I always equate “planning ahead” as making assumptions and performing maneuvers according to those assumptions whereas “order of operations” is more about knowing what the steps are because they don’t change and there’s a more rigid way of figuring out the right answer. It’s a small difference when I’m thinking of examples in my mind but it’s making a huge impact on my method of planning and it may help me out tremendously in life if I can keep it in mind.
@RileyKnifeandTool
@RileyKnifeandTool 8 лет назад
My wife heard me laughing my butt off at the "spun collet country song".... I tried to explain it to her. She apparently still didn't get it.Great video!
@digus
@digus 6 лет назад
ARCustomKnives +1
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens 6 лет назад
I have to admit I laughed out loud at that one too.
@calorus
@calorus 5 лет назад
She wasn't laughing because there was nothing to laugh about. She was imagining a Dolly & Carl Ray duet about how important it is to hold tight and not push too hard, because the world stops spinning when Chuck lets go. (♫)
@Horusaem
@Horusaem 4 года назад
Omg I am your wife... Or I am not that into Country ;p To your luck "Not a Broakback Mountain Cowboy " Either . :D
@kimberlyjacobsen4148
@kimberlyjacobsen4148 2 года назад
To be Frank. Hi! I’m Frank ! Just as not funny😬
@Boosted98gsx
@Boosted98gsx 7 лет назад
14:40 "... playing jumprope with barbed wire." That is the perfect analogy for chip breaking.
@inawenderholm9965
@inawenderholm9965 5 лет назад
I don't really get it, that's how mom raised us. Wait...
@billy19461
@billy19461 4 года назад
I thought razor wire would have been better.
@hopefuldave
@hopefuldave 4 года назад
Scans better as part of that country song...
@ellsworth5841
@ellsworth5841 4 года назад
@@inawenderholm9965 -- Here ya go, kids... It's almost rush hour... Y'all take this barbed wire, plus them buckets of glass shards and rusty old razor blades, and go play in the street...
@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 3 года назад
Great advice about not wanting long strings and wanting chips instead. But you didn’t explain how to avoid / change the way it’s cutting? Increase or decrease lathe speed? Change cutting tool / insert? Change feed rate on the tool? Some of us are still noobs at all this. A little more explanation next time please, truthfully less humour / editing tricks and more explanatory content would be nice for those of us trying to learn. 😉
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 8 лет назад
Great video, very entertaining! I like your editing style very much :) You realy hammered out that shaft!
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Stefan Gotteswinter Thanks Stefan.. I only gave it what it had a'come'n!
@AddictedtoProjects
@AddictedtoProjects 8 лет назад
+Stefan Gotteswinter Totally agree! The editing style is unique, quirky and funny. Love it! :)
@sourbrothers73
@sourbrothers73 3 года назад
Stefan!!!
@retiredtom1654
@retiredtom1654 8 лет назад
Not too often you laugh at a machine shop type video, but this one did it for me. Great job. I loved that gas engine to start the lathe & the little machinist was a very nice touch. I'm building my first CNC for home hobby & considered a forth axis. It just might be worth the time, but right now I don't know what I would use it for. It never stopped me before!
@tpioneer
@tpioneer 8 лет назад
Love your sense of humor
@user-de8bu5es6f
@user-de8bu5es6f 8 месяцев назад
Well this taught me a new saying, DON'T try this at Work folks. Thanks Tony, watching them all again Nov 2023 with new yt acct so double the No. of thumbs up.
@SirRichardHoniker
@SirRichardHoniker Год назад
Having no machinery experience and never have even stepped foot into a machine shop, I find your videos both entertaining and informative. I feel like after watching your videos I'd be able to successfully scrap my own parts someday 😁
@KristoforJensen
@KristoforJensen 4 года назад
I want a t-shirt that says "This ain't rocket surgery! - TOT"
@joacimbreiler
@joacimbreiler 4 года назад
This is pretty close: 6dollarshirts.com/rocket-surgery
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 4 года назад
I like watching these old(er) videos.. It's good to see how your style has refined and evolved overtime.. :) and the brute force approach to the face plate shaft was brilliant.. :)
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 7 лет назад
Just finished watching the CNC router series back to back... Stunning! It is great for the "muddlers" in the world (like me) to see how things should be done. Your commentary is informative, light, pleasant to listen to, and humorous. The video is easy to watch. The end machine is "to die for". Thank you so much. "Liked" all the videos... subscribed a long time ago. :o)
@melgross
@melgross 4 года назад
When I use setscrews in any sort of channel, I use a larger dia screw that gives me the same, or slightly larger, root dia as the channel, and completely machine off the tread at the end. Sometimes because of size limitations, I’ll just cut the threads down so that I take off most of the thread so that it’s mostly smooth. Not surprised about the collet. That’s a lot of torque from that faceplate for that small collet.
@Jayeeyee
@Jayeeyee 8 лет назад
I love the magic a big enough hammer can obtain.
@mountainviews5025
@mountainviews5025 6 лет назад
I'm amazed that spun in your cullet in my friends shop we were making stuff and he had the same thing happen and he screamed THIS OLD TONY and I didn't understand that is how I started watching you you've taught me/us so much thanks Tony
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 8 лет назад
All I have to say is: damn, you have ALL the toys....I'm rebuilding my CNC router, ordered and obtained all the raw materials, now I have to figure out how to machine them all without a mill, lathe, or other assorted toys..... But one thing I did invest in: centering/spotting drills.....just waiting for them to arrive.....
@AlaskaFire911
@AlaskaFire911 7 лет назад
You are a great machinist thanks for teaching me new and great ideas. I really admire people like you. you make learning fun.
@noahsalte471
@noahsalte471 5 лет назад
This old tony I don’t know if you read comments but I really appreciate you taking your time to share your knowledge with us
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 5 лет назад
I do and thanks!
@criticallook1352
@criticallook1352 6 лет назад
_"Somebody should write a Country song about it."_ What would you *_collet?_* :
@Q5Grafx
@Q5Grafx 3 года назад
I Chamfer the info and stayed for the humor
@forrestgumpv9049
@forrestgumpv9049 5 лет назад
The brass driven gear can be replaced with a new one or you can make a cam ring for the drive screw and offset it to fully engage into the driven gear to remove all backlash. Machinist here 40yrs.
@stephensomersify
@stephensomersify 4 года назад
Dull day for Tony - 3 years ago. Your quick wit and humour has brightened exponentially since - to the point that the uninitiated will be missing them over their heads - UK lunar parachutist
@jimwhitaker8751
@jimwhitaker8751 Год назад
It is both HILARIOUS and INFORMATIVE to watch you vids. I have enjoyed them all!
@josefrefuses2go694
@josefrefuses2go694 6 лет назад
Tony it's truly awesome watching you build most thing normal folk just go out and sell one of their organs or kids to be able to purchase, but to see that you share your toys with your lil's.. NOW that's an awesome sight!!! dad of the years up for ToT!!!
@kingredleg6747
@kingredleg6747 8 лет назад
That was totally a WIN. Great video editing and good humor. And the award for best CNC build videos goes to Tony :) I need more, bravo, on-cor.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+King Red Leg Thank you, sir, and thanks for watching!
@needtoknow64
@needtoknow64 7 лет назад
Every time you stopped the lathe to to explain stuff it just made me laugh😂
@electrofly23
@electrofly23 4 года назад
when you had the stripped torx - what I usually do is use a dremel tool with a small cutting wheel and cut a slot in it then use a big flat head screwdriver to remove it
@JustinAlexanderBell
@JustinAlexanderBell 8 лет назад
So glad I found this channel, great videos!
@samterian7694
@samterian7694 4 года назад
this young tony, one of your excellent video you made a spindle for 4th axis and had a r/o of a few thousand, as a retired spindle maker your problem is not the faces are out but rather the housing is not on line front bearing is not in line with rear bearing .
@danielminskey
@danielminskey 7 лет назад
love the bucket dump. great video. love the process.
@MrMalthusMusic
@MrMalthusMusic 7 лет назад
'No blood, good chamfer' made me giggle, thanks for a very informative and entertaining video.
@Alexander_Sannikov
@Alexander_Sannikov 7 лет назад
I'm no machinist, I just watch your vids while eating. That kind of intermittent general knowledge as long shavings being dangerous is really appreciated by laymen like myself.
@jabelsjabels
@jabelsjabels 7 лет назад
always imagined it'd be fun to be the guy who designs and makes those physical cutaways
@jesusbartololorenzo691
@jesusbartololorenzo691 6 лет назад
Jeremy Abelmki78aWwwa0
@FAF575
@FAF575 6 лет назад
Very entertaining. You know, when you retire from being a machinist, you can always become a humorist, like Roy Rogers. Thanks for sharing your work. Always makes me want to go out in the shop and make something.
@youpattube1
@youpattube1 7 лет назад
Another excellent video. The perfect combination of explanation and humor.
@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 8 лет назад
Delightful video so very well created and edited with many unexpected turns and twists. One of the best I have seen. Thanks for sharing. It is much appreciated.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Jim Milne Thanks for watching Jim!
@lornie212
@lornie212 8 лет назад
Tony, You have the best edited machining videos on youtube. A joy to watch.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+lornie212 Why thank you!
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 7 лет назад
Love both your mad machining skills AND your sense of humor, Earned a subscriber with this one :-)
@amiralozse1781
@amiralozse1781 6 лет назад
you and your son are AWESOME!! thank you for your excellent videos!
@DJ9ZJ
@DJ9ZJ 8 лет назад
Hi Daniel, just great trademanship and engineering!! When the piece stop in the lathe, that was an "ouch" moment😉 And building an cnc router like your inspires me to do the same. Very very well done indeed👍👍 Cheers Hermann
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Hermann Kovert Thank Roberto, I appreciate that. Good luck with your build .. if you're so inspired, get it on video!
@das250250
@das250250 5 лет назад
Thanks for talking about the way you approach each operation , it holds the most valuable information , besides knowing the tap has done 3 million holes without breaking
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 7 лет назад
I just finished the series. Great project, I'm sure you had a few headaches thinking it through. Good hammer trick! It's nice seeing your son in the shop.
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 7 лет назад
I got one of those.used it one time about 5 years ago glad i had it .life saver.
@ObixMT
@ObixMT 7 лет назад
Ok, so this was my first video I watched in the shop this Saturday morning over the first cup-O-coffee... I loved it and laughed my ass off, thanks for sharing!! Definitely locked me in as a new subscriber ;o)
@nathanskinner423
@nathanskinner423 5 лет назад
God the theming and overall production quality is just fantastic. Fantastic work uncle tony.
@mikeridescbr45212
@mikeridescbr45212 4 года назад
I love your videos and you sense of humor you sir are awesome
@ezequielflores5243
@ezequielflores5243 7 лет назад
tony u are brilliant i watch ur videos everytime i can keep doing it! i learn alot! thnx, greeting from argentina
@michaeldurling793
@michaeldurling793 8 лет назад
Michael DurlingThank you, very entertaining while being informative and educational at the same time. With many presenters I find myselfwaking up with a stiff neck and have to re watch the video to see what happened while I slept.That hammer trick was a hoot!
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Michael Durling Thanks for watching, Michael!
@barrythompson8813
@barrythompson8813 8 лет назад
Love your sense of humour ! My wife doesn't comment on my laughing as I'm already talking aloud, responding to your commentary :-)
@rexhaereticus2468
@rexhaereticus2468 7 лет назад
hands down, the most over-engineered marble dumper i've seen on the interwebs. nice work.
@felixdietzCGN
@felixdietzCGN 8 лет назад
i like your sense of humor ;-) plus good shots, editing and super solid and clean machining!
@m3chanist
@m3chanist 7 лет назад
Great channel man. I'm in. That was indeed a real Xmas miracle with the tap, and with your story/comedy timing. I went through about 3 M5's when I built my CNC, and there's a fourth unused one still inside the gantry, welded in. It tinkles when I rapid, just to remind me where I lost it.
@arachnophob97
@arachnophob97 8 лет назад
Very enjoyable, creative, fun. You are just as good as movie maker as you are as a mechanic.
@JB-ol4vz
@JB-ol4vz 4 года назад
You are amazing. Tanks for putting up the great videos.
@christianlewis7055
@christianlewis7055 8 лет назад
That motor adaptor block looks awesome. Great video.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Christian Lewis Thanks Christian! (still a scary avatar)
@Mimerneos
@Mimerneos 6 лет назад
I just.. you're brilliant, thank you for your content
@jordanworthen4992
@jordanworthen4992 8 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for going in further detail on the way the worm gear works.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 7 лет назад
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@thedevmachine
@thedevmachine 7 лет назад
I really liked how you edited this video. Starting car engine sound made me laugh. You are great in what you do.
@simonbarbarasch7169
@simonbarbarasch7169 7 лет назад
so satisfying when that stepper fits perfectly with the gearbox.
@artemiasalina1860
@artemiasalina1860 8 лет назад
For a while I've toyed with the idea of a stepper motor based dividing head, so this was very informative to me, especially the pitfalls to watch out for. Also, I get a distinct but subtle Frank Howarth vibe from your videos, and this one there is a "You suck at cooking" vibe too. Love it!
@kustomhooligans
@kustomhooligans 4 года назад
Aside from the improvements it needs, I will NEVER get bored of watching a part get machined, then said part automatically flips to opposite side and machining resumes!
@christopherriley9372
@christopherriley9372 8 лет назад
Man I can't wait to see you make the brake, I watched the router build and now you're expanding to fourth axis machining. I so want to build a 5' x 12' and start a cabinet shop and this inspires me to get my ass going once I get my girlfriend over here from the Philippines. I love how you explained the thought process behind the whole plan of attack, I nearly shit myself when the plate stopped rotation while you were turning the outside diameter. Keep up the great work Tony, you make guys like us proud and motivated to step out on our own and make America great again.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Christopher Riley Thanks Christopher -- one piece at a time, sooner or later you'll get it done. Thanks for watching and good luck with the cabinet shop!
@christopherriley9372
@christopherriley9372 8 лет назад
+This Old Tony Exactly what I am finding out, as the saying goes Rome wasn't built in a day. Patience is a virtue that as machinist must possess in order to break down the process in order to determine the correct path to accomplish the task of the day.
@normfabisch202
@normfabisch202 7 лет назад
Top notch video's Tony, instant subscribe, love the editing , keep em coming...
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 4 года назад
Learnt about backlash the first time as a kid with Lego "making" a worm gearbox, the amount backlash was rather noticeable :) Lego is a great way to learn about such thing!
@jesscast5122
@jesscast5122 7 лет назад
First think I thought when I first saw this was "Backlash" I used to make Rotary Axises and sell them on eBay. I just used a 3 or 4 inch Chucks with a shaft thru alum. block. NO bearings. bronze bushings(as a quality Precision device should be) with Pulley and cog belt w 4:1 ratio to the stepper. and for a brake I use a Brass Screw on top of the Block to lock the shaft. Screw also had the 2nd purpose of oiling port to drop 1 drop of lube occasionally... Worked Great!! No Backlash!!!
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 7 лет назад
Thanks Jess, and good points you make.
@shanewalker9564
@shanewalker9564 4 года назад
@@ThisOldTony DOSE THE SOFTWARE HAVE A SOFTWARE SET FOR BACKLASH
@OGMann
@OGMann 3 года назад
Always a pleasure to watch a journeyman at his trade.
@tbssic1
@tbssic1 7 лет назад
Sometime back, I had reason to turn numerous square plates,, into numerous round plates. When I started to turn the first plate,, I would cringe every time a corner would contact my tooling. I made a hand cranked fixture that I could mount a plate on,,, and another fixture that was perpendicular to the plate. On the second fixture was a 4” grinder that I could slowly advance,,, via a threaded base. My left hand would slowly rotate the plate (with the crank),,, and my right hand would advance the grinder toward the plate with a ratchet. So much easier on the tooling and the lathe. Lots of grinder dust,,, so I mounted it all on a wooden bench,,, outside.
@z13swee
@z13swee 8 лет назад
awsome video once again. i really enjoy these
@BradyDearinger
@BradyDearinger 2 года назад
seeing that chuck stop on that interrupted cut got me to pucker up real quick. I've seen that go two ways.
@jonathonwood4088
@jonathonwood4088 8 лет назад
I'm not gonna lie. the whole hammer to the raw stock confused me for about a second. that was cool. As for your haft brake, I'd make it a cam operated via air cylinder. Do you have an updated video of the air brake?
@beyersito
@beyersito 7 лет назад
finding a new channel like yours is great
@wylieecoyote
@wylieecoyote 3 года назад
"It's hammer time - can't touch this!" Now I know what MC Hammer was talking about. I would love a hammer that made parts with a "tappy tap tap".
@archer9338
@archer9338 4 года назад
I have loved worm gears ever since I first saw one almost 20 years ago.
@Braeden123698745
@Braeden123698745 7 лет назад
I'm no engineer, but I feel like a good way to handle the backlash would be to put an encoder (or 2 that are out of phase if you really want precision) directly on the shaft of the 4 axis. If you also had a brake on that same axis, then as far as I can tell backlash wouldn't be an issue.
@Mekhanic1
@Mekhanic1 7 лет назад
You will run into a deadband issue with the encoder and it would complain (twitch and vibrate in a closed loop operation)
@Braeden123698745
@Braeden123698745 7 лет назад
What does green day have to do with this? (get it deadband?) Could you maybe explain that in more detail and what's the actual solution?
@RevScott
@RevScott 5 лет назад
I just love the production value and effort you put into your videos!!
@Jacksparrow4986
@Jacksparrow4986 2 года назад
So there have been difficulties getting stuff before covid - calming to know. Watching all your vids this seems to be one where you've made a leap - love it.
@southjerseysound7340
@southjerseysound7340 7 лет назад
The very last clip was priceless and even if it never got used for anything else that in itself is a win.
@owpeterj
@owpeterj 6 лет назад
a what,... a 'centimeter' - finally a size in units used 'round 'ear... Lol. nice share of some workshop time.... Great interwoven humour and well shot video.... Hammer good. (that's actually an expression in some areas here). so Thankyou, for a great focused effort to show, share and enjoy a creative aspect of living.
@maillotjeanpierre1550
@maillotjeanpierre1550 8 лет назад
Very pleasant and informative. Nice to see others also messing up from time to time Thanks for the videos.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
Thank you!
@okimotus
@okimotus 7 лет назад
such a story teller love it
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 6 лет назад
Love the humor of the gasoline powered mill and the hammer lathe. LOL
@scientistrazz480
@scientistrazz480 8 лет назад
That adapter is beautiful.I like your video production style too.
@jlm0rr1s
@jlm0rr1s 6 лет назад
You sir are awesome too watch. At 20:44 you said I don't want to bore you. Please note those who would be bored wouldn't be watching you in the first please. "bore" away please😀. Thank you for posting. I loved the one where you made a sword for your boy. I have three and one in the way. You're not only a genius but a great dad. Thanks for sharing a little of you.
@Hirudin
@Hirudin 8 лет назад
That video was fantastic! Not many people show how useful a hammer can be in the shop.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Hirudin Thanks!
@juanrivero8
@juanrivero8 8 лет назад
Very good video. A lot like making a dividing head, which I did last year. If you don't have a brake (or if your brake is loose) the dividing head will not work properly. Come to think of it, you did indeed make a dividing head, cleverly disguised as a fourth axis. Motorized even! Good work.
@kiaypp
@kiaypp 7 лет назад
I am loving your creativity, knowledge, and humour, and of course your videos I am envious of your electronics skills in setting up the 4 axis. Software, drivers, motor types, power supplies, etc. Where do you come from with all those experiances? You are an amazing man!!
@Martuszewski
@Martuszewski 6 лет назад
The start up car motor haha..love it!!!
@BioKanh
@BioKanh 4 года назад
A couple dollar ebay electromagnet and a spring steel flexure make an excellent brake. Since the holding force of a magnet drops off extremely quickly as a function of the air gap, float the electromagnet close to the braking surface or just let it rub up against it. If you use one output of a stepper driver to run the electromagnet, a couple more dollars, the response time can be rather short since the driving voltage can be high while the current is limited to whatever the electromagnet requires. Mount the electromagnets at the largest radius that is accessible. If you are just making a dividing head, add a rotary decoder to trip the electromagnet and backlash problems can be avoided. Suitably chosen old motors make great bearings and hobby quality gear motors can be used to drive the rotation. If you operate the electromagnets at reduced currents they can be used to apply a controllable drag force which is handy to remove backlash if you want to use the setup as a 4th axis. I use the same technique to even out the torque curves when using steppers.
@jdubz22
@jdubz22 4 года назад
Your work with the hammer still amazes me, 4 years later!
@slomotrainwreck
@slomotrainwreck 8 лет назад
The rag joke just before the collet, simply golden.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+William Lee Always warms the heart when a dad joke goes appreciated. :) Thanks for watching William.
@aladinmovies
@aladinmovies 5 лет назад
Good teacher you are! If at school will be like you teachers, I want to go to school. Thanks
@dafyd01
@dafyd01 7 лет назад
Great project and very entertaining video
@TheWeekendMedic
@TheWeekendMedic 4 года назад
"alright, no blood, good chamfer"
@jeremywhite6799
@jeremywhite6799 7 лет назад
Great video Tony. If you wanted an idea for a simple brake for this 4th axis you might look into an electromagnetic brake off a mobility scooter. Easy as pie to actuate electronically and would just require a simple hex adaptor on the other side of your gearbox.
@rakrakishot
@rakrakishot 8 лет назад
Damn cool project as always, keep them coming.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Lay Kha Thanks Lay!
@ritchiep123
@ritchiep123 3 года назад
Ironically I'm watching this video less than a week after I purchased nearly that exact same worm drive from a auction because I thought it was cool. Now I have to build this.
@zidwid
@zidwid 8 лет назад
Loved the hammer job. Great video.
@maidenlord6663
@maidenlord6663 3 года назад
I love your older videos like this
@whidbeyman
@whidbeyman 7 лет назад
Re your heat sink... the optimization of fin thickness and spacing will probably surprise you. Unless you have significant forced air flow, A few widely spaced fins will outperform a lot of closely spaced fins. It's easy to find optimization software on the web. Great series!
@stovepipe6769
@stovepipe6769 8 лет назад
Great video, I'm a nubee so i like the way you explain what your doing, some guys will say the same thing 3 different ways and just talk, that gets pretty boring. Anyways i really enjoy what you do.
@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony 8 лет назад
+Corey Empey Thanks Corey, glad you liked it.
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