What a great car and combo. This was my 36th straight US Nationals and I don’t think people realize how big this event is and to win a Wally in any stock class is a HUGE achievement.
I race K/SA with an 87 Monte Carlo SS and SS/JA in a 1990 Corvette. I own an engine shop so I get to do a lot of experimentation. Im running well into the 11s (consistent 11.70s) with a 305. Ive found a combo that runs pretty hard but a new Dart Little M 305 block and custom ground cam and say bye bye to the current national record 11.65.
Mad Irishman This car showed up on plenty of magazines throughout the 90s and early 2000s..I guess you must be new and to racing if you don’t know who Steve sullivan is 🤣😂
Kudos to anyone who can run 11's with an intake tract that flows 160 cfm! I know a lot of the power gains is from the camshaft. But these cars are dyno testing at 300+ rwhp! The normal car guy usually has to replace the whole top end to hit 300 rwhp.
Awesome video Evan. Appreciate everything u do. I miss MMFF magazine 😢 when I was building my car back in 92 I couldn’t wait for the next new month to hit the shelves. Your a LEGEND brother!!!! 👍🏼🙏🏼
Very interesting to hear some of the limitations and rules on racing in this class. I've always likes the fox body mustang's but never owned one. Cheers to your victory!
Good for you Sir, znd I thank you for the memories. I've built and raced my 90 LX Hatch for many years, 302, 5 speed. My wife at the time, said I can do whatever I wanted as long as I kept the A.C. Boy did she regret that ha! Her first ride was her last ride, could have something to do with scraping the rear bumper leaving the line. Moral of the story, when your husband is a Engine Builder, sharing a shop with a Chassis Builder, choose your words wisely, just sayin 🇺🇸😎💪🇺🇸😎💪🇺🇸
Hell we did that in the late 90s. We even used what Crane Cams used to have which is called the fireball system used to be a piggy back on the ECU to where you could control timing and fuel. We had won the last ones and Crane Cams offered to buy it back from Jeff McBride.
That awesome man ripping the front wheels off the ground with almost a stock motor u should be in a hot rod magazine awesome car I love its all metal body 2 u have that car figured out great car!👍👍👍👍👍🧠🤙🤙👊👊🤟🤟
Great video Evan!!! I would like to see a video about the evolution of your 87.....I know you’re a busy man and a lot of that was covered in magazine articles but it would be cool to see it’s progression here on RU-vid
@@hs400 i agree there is alot of magic going on with these i respect them so much. The things he mentioned are def factors but that aint the only reasons its in the 11s.
5.0 or fast fords had an article long time ago about welding the stock upper intake and reworking the runners for stock classes, forgot about it until I watched this video, pretty cool. 🦊 forever.
I love all the experts here who don't have a clue what it takes to run the times they do and still be legal. Get a rule book and a car and try it sometime.
great video love stock eliminator. amazing what is done to that car to make it run 11's with stock intake and valves and throttle body. love the way it lifts the front wheels too..
Cool video nice to find your channel I met you at the track one time I had A F150 running mid elevens with less mods than the car in this video wonder if I could run that class of racing with my truck
Depends on the year, check the guide, I think 91-93f150's are in there but that's about it for years. (91-93 all ford trucks rangers/aerostars/f150's even E-150's are in the guide, wouldn't that be a rolling commercial! LOL!!
Very cool car. Easy to work on and relatively cheap to build. Youve obviously got it dialed in after years of tnt. Have a couple questions: 1. What kind of fuel do you run (allowed)? 2. Rear suspension mods/rear gears? 3. I noticed in the video that when you started your burnout, the back of the car raised up alittle. When i launch my s550 irs car, the rear squats quite a bit. I know your suspension setup is completely different, but which is better for launching? Should i tighten up my rear suspension to prevent squatting? Id just like the opinion of an accomplished FS racer. Thx.
Most Stocker guys run VP C11, C12, C16 or C25. Looks like when he started the burnout the tires were gripping right before they broke free from the track so it loaded the suspension and lifted the rear.
You're right. Completely different vehicle. Utilize and tune what works best for your combination. Squat works well for IRS type cars but be careful to monitor how much. Shock tuning is your friend.
I've noticed that newer cars never seem to transfer weight and pull the front wheel like they used to. Has there been some change in philosophies about how to get traction? I remember seeing pictures in magazines where they were pulling a front tire on stock SN95 Cobras with just a slick.
At this race the car was not up to par on launch as in the past. Theoretically you only want the front tires just off the ground. Any more is using energy in the wrong direction. In the faster Stockers and Super Stockers big wheelstands can catch air and slow the car's acceleration. On the other hand there are those who feel that the higher the wheelstand (up to a point) the more of the car's weight is imposed on the rear tires enhancing traction. Right Gary? This is more helpful and over comes any aerodynamic deficiencies. I like the second opinion if only because wheelstands are fun! LOL
@@madirishman1333 I always love to see wheelstands too. I'm just surprised how Fox bodies used to pull the tires so easily, but later model cars, even with a lot more power, never seem to.
Matt, I've known Jerry 25 years, and I've written a story on his Z/28 for Super Chevy magazine. The 302 has indeed been apart and maximized for NHRA Stock Eliminator. In no way is that a factory original engine. Please check your information.
REVan Evan what I was told is Jerry bought the car new and with exception of trans and tuning, the cork hasn’t been popped in the motor. Even if it has been, it’s unreal how fast that car is with this cubic inches. I run a small journal 302 in my 66 Chevy II and they’re definitely very cool engines
@@mattperkins7038 those are fantastic cars and some of my favorite Chevys. In addition to writing the story, I competed against Jerry in my H/S Ford Cobra Mustang with a 302 and 5-speed. (You can see videos of the car on this channel.) Like mine, Jerry's car is fully maximized to the NHRA Stock Eliminator rules, I assure you. This means blueprinting the engine, to minimize combustion chamber, overbore on engine, using a Stocker cam (stock lift, any duration and overlap), optimized valve job, open headers, plus optimized suspension, transmission and gear ratios, etc. With all due respect, I've seen a competent driver in bone stock 302 Z/28 produce low 13s with sticky tires. There is no way you're gonna run 10s with a stock 290 hp 302. The science doesn't add up. As an example, a stock 1993 Cobra runs low 13s, maybe high 12s with slicks. This is with a factory 235 hp engine at roughly 3,350 lbs. My car (same 1993 Cobra) in NHRA Stock trim has been 10.65/123 mph. On a wheel dyno my "235 hp" engine makes 415 hp (would be estimated 450 on an engine dyno) as built for the NHRA rules. It takes 450-475 (flywheel) hp to run mid-10s in Jerry's car. Lastly, what induction and transmission are you running, I love those cars!
So the throttle body and upper and lower intake are stock or stock-ish? I'm fascinated by stock and super stock. But, rarely do I find much info on combinations and what's allowed.
The chassis has to be set up very well. Gotta find ways to effectively transfer weight and also transfer power. My FOX pulls the front wheels. The motor in mine is pretty mild. Lots of time goes into sorting out these types of cars out.
How much duration would give you a great advantage over stock cam? 308 stays open 308 degrees of a 360 degree revolution. That's allows open air and fuel into the combustion chamber. My question is what exact duration do you want and how do you know for your specific size of engine?
Great question, in Stock Eliminator you have to deal with stock lift to you not only have big duration (over 300), but the ramp rates are insane, so the valve opens very fast to get to max lift and shuts late. This takes increased spring pressure and stiff pushrods to prevent float. The "best" duration for any engine is determined by the combination (displacement, compression, desired rpm range, induction, etc.). In NHRA Stock with the 302 HO you have limited induction and weak exhaust ports so you need lots of duration, engine blueprinting and a great set of headers to increase air velocity in and out of the engine. Hope that helps. I don't know exactly what cam Steve is running, but I ran one with over 320 degrees duration in my Stocker engine.
They should allow the fox bodies to run iron gt 40 heads since the e7s suck so bad stock port. They would still be factory stock heads just a few years to late for the fox. Bc u know since ford put them on a explorer had they had them sooner u know they would have put them on during the years they kept increasing power on the h.o. and yes I know the cobra had them but that was 93 last year for fox and the cobra was a special 1 year car that by all rights needed to be better and stronger than a regular h.o fox.
