People bash on the 5.9 a lot, but it's friggin' bulletproof. I have one with 283,000 miles on it, and it's still running like brand new! The thing is a monster. The low-end torque on that thing is unreal, and with a couple small upgrades, it'll reach Hemi horsepower levels.
I love my 5.9 Magnum. It's on my list of "bulletproof" engines, as well. I have another that is. Ford 300HD L6. Well, one more, too. 330HD. Only the 5.9 Magnum drives right now, but the others would, and are also bulletproof. I love the 5.9 Magnum. When I was in high school, I'd have never had a 300 L6 over a V8. Without age and experience, I'd probably not have a 5.9 Magnum over a newer Hemi. I have age and experience. I'll keep my 5.9 Magnum.
***** you obviously haven't driven a healthy Hemi if you think its too smooth vs a 360!. The Hemi is an animal! The 360 has lowend power galore and is a great all around motor, but the hemi revs much faster and throws back harder. I've raced 360 trucks and jeeps and the 360 throws down like a mother fuck up to 30mph then the Hemi gets sick of playing and starts showing its 100hp advantage in the form of instant car length leads that get bigger by the second.
You are on crack, and I am a hardcore 360 supporter, I LOVE my 360s, the 360 and the 5.7 Hemi are probably close on overall torque range, but the Hemi still has it beat in the high end range for torque & horsepower, 360 down low all day, but after 25mph its no doubt all advantage to the Hemi and the Hemi isn't a slouch down low either. My Hemi Ram runs a 7.18 0-60 stock so I don't know where you're getting that 8 second figure from....Oh I know directly out of your ass!. I own both my 360 & Hemi trucks still and drive both! best I did on my 360 was maybe 8.5 seconds tops, and that's after installing headers. Both of my trucks weight 5300 lbs with me in it and the 97 with a 360 is an extended cab truck. Both are great motors, but the hemi stock for stock vs a 360 in a vehicle of the same weight will always win. I suggest you actually drive one instead of posting bs online that you have driven one when clearly you haven't. You'd be lucky to do 6.5 seconds 0-60 in a Dakota 360 truck with more than a few mods let alone in a Ram.
If you want a good motor to compare the 360 to, the 5.3 Chevy is a great one...A 360 wipes the 5.3's ass all day long in a quarter mile race and even top end highway race!, that is what you should be worried about pounding a Chevy, not a Hemi. 360s are good and have a great aftermarket, but you can't deny the power the Hemi's are putting out. Like I said I have both & drive both and my 360 is a strong one, its pounded 5.0 & 4.6 Mustangs into the ground and it can only hang fender to fender till 25mph then the Hemi steals the show.
If I wanted something high-tech, I'd start asking where the trillions of dollars our taxes have gone to with secret government research. Since we're talking about an internal combustion engine that still exists, inefficiently, at the, due to economic and political reasons, we're not talking about advanced technology that is available to most of us. We're talking about a primitive technology; a primitive technology that will probably remain as long as they are able to use it to milk profits from the public, or prop up the dollar (petrodollar). Having said that, if I were to wish to build an all out race truck that would be torn apart and examined and then rebuilt, after every event, I'd probably say there is no question I'd take a Hemi over a Magnum. If we're talking about a good low end torque and bulletproof engine, though, I'd take the Magnum engine.
@@Magnum-hr2vx right but it doesn't tell you anything other than who got better traction or in this case who hit the throttle sooner, its obvious that the Cummins made more torque hence why he spun his tires and the 360 didn't and its obvious that the 360 driver hit the gas first thats about all tug of war tells you
I love my 95 12 valve banks power pack. but I also have a 96 sport with 300,000 miles on it. I've been driving it to work almost everyday for 6 months with the temp gauge pegged begging it to blow to give me a reason to swap it out. it's down to 15 psi oil pressure but I'll drive it to work til it blows. I was hard core Chevy when it comes to gas but the 360 has changed my mind. its almost indestructible
Tug of wars are mainly just for fun. It's really all about what kind of weight you have in your truck, and what tires you have. Any unloaded truck can sit there and spin their tires. I think the main reason why the 360 won was because of the bf goodrich tires it has. Them tires are very soft and grippy compared to other tires I have owned.
Oh and she ain’t a pavement queen I use her ask an actual truck the 4wd works great and it gives me goosebumps when I first start it that rumble can’t be matched and I still take care of her she stays clean but she sees dirt and work ever since I was a kid I always dreamed of having me a 2end generation Dodge Ram like my uncle and I finally got my dream truck the color and engine I wanted and everything and I’ve made a lot of great memories in her she’s a part of the family and lord willing I have a son one day it will be his but if not it will go to my baby girl I was hoping I’d have a baby boy but I love my little girl just the same and she is gonna be a car lover like her daddy and I’m gonna rebuild the 360 when she needs it but she only has 155,000 something miles on her plenty of life left and when I rebuild it I’m gonna put a carburetor on her and performance heads and a mild came just to get an extra long lump when it ideals I’m a die hard mopar fan mopar or no car and I’m proud of my truck because it’s not squatted it has more of a 70s dragsters stance now she looks mean
@@TheJohnwall12 your truck sounds absolutely badass! If you ever wanna remove all the stupid electronics on it and switch to carbureted I have a video on my channel you can watch where we did exactly that! Also my brother who owns the truck is now putting that same magnum 5.9 in it carbureted and we’re gonna use the same heads we had on the 318 since he doesn’t wanna re-drill holes for the carburetor intake manifold. He’s running a 2 bbl Holley carb and a General Motors HEI distributor converted for mopar. He’s also planning on driving it over to my house today lol 😂 Also me and him both are big time mopar fans. My truck is a 2011 with the 4.7L in it and for being only 4.7L it sounds amazing! Eventually I’m gonna get a Hemi but I’d also like to buy one of these 2nd gens with that 360 motor. I absolutely LOVE the body style of the second gen.
@@hilljackzack7284 I’ll have to check it out not that I don’t love the power she has she has way more potential and my plan as fair as wheel and tire set up I want some slotted mags love em and some cooper cobra gts witch look good on about anything but where mine has a 70s dragster stance the mags would completely the look with the super bee hood scoops
I have a 97 Ram with a 360 and I love its power and even I would have put $100 against it in favor of the diesel...did not expect this outcome!. 360's are stacked with torque off the bottom end, they are putting out 300ft lbs of torque by the time the converter stall ends & grabs at 1900 Rpm!.
why would you get a gas half ton for towing? obv you’d get a diesel, but from factory the 360 magnum made more hp then the diesel. diesel just made more torque, but it wasn’t even that big of a difference. 300 lb-ft for the 5.2 magnum, 330 lb-ft for the 5.9 magnum, and 420 lb-ft for the 12 valve. so, yes, pound for pound at about 15 mpg id still go for the magnum any day. but not for towing. because in many cases the 360 would beat the 369 (cummins) any day at other things such as things like off roading. YES IK IM A FEW YEARS LATE IDC
I just buy a ram 97 5.9 with the magnum but the question is, is this truck supposed to be fastnor just strong?? I just buy the truck a week ago! Has 147000 mi
Yeah mine loves gas the car I had before I got it I would fill it up once a week and my truck about 5 times a week but I don’t mind she’s my baby and I love her
Lol 5.9 magnums are beast I built one most diesels couldnt out run up hill towing 12,000 but mine was 360 stroked to a 406 and supercharged so mpg was 4 yea but can't beat the straight pipes of a V8 gasser
My dad bought a 2003 dodge ram 1500 5.9 in 2014 (me not old enough to even think about driving) I just inherited it and the engine runs like new other problems have have been found but it's all electrical love my 5.9 ram I'll probably drive it till it stops running
I drive a ram 5.9 mag ...I thought for sure the Cummins would pull .he most have been doing something rong ..or the Cummins was sick .. don't know .. .
Am I the only one that has noticed that the 360 gas has a open diff. I can't tell what year it is but if I am right that truck has a 3.55 unless 97 or newer with 4.10 which would help but it's a open diff I agree with everyone that the 360 makes torque faster. Sadly I think it's true without the chip because I have a 1995 1500 2x4 5.9 and I have pulled my Neighboor with a 2003 2500 5.9 Cummings he still can't will but it's because of my diff
@@thomasbobo7356 Then that means they changed it. In the 94 and 95 the rear end ratio is on a sticker in the glove box. I thought that was all 1-3 gen rams.
Lmao I don't get it. Who ever thinks the gasser has more bottom end then a cummins needs to stuff there face in a diesel magazine. No gas engine the same size had a diesel will ever have more torque. More horsepower yes. But never torque. These cummins are bulletproof I have an 06 ISB 610 5.9 and it keeps plugging along with 432*** miles. Had the older 12valves series in a work boat I used to captain. There reliable engines.
actually prior to the 24v the v10 had more bottom end torque. Also let's build a turbo magnum v8 and talk about whats what then. Or better yet, take the turbo off the diesel and let's see how it does.
Diesel and Gas engines have totally different operations to function. A diesel engine simply cannot draw in enough air to support the fuel that it is capable of burning, a gasoline engine is already at its limit (some exceptions of course, someone will probably point out that the ecoboost is turbo'ed). Instead of taking the turbo off the diesel, let's crank up the boost to 45 PSI and do the same to the Magnum, and limit both engines to fuel that can only be found at EZ-Mart (no 120 octane race gas there amigo)
Here's the real test. Put 20,000lbs on a gooseneck trailer and hook it to the cummins and do the se for the magnum and head up Monteagle mountain and let me know if yall still pull for that magnum 😎
owmed two 5.9 durangos as wood haulers, my cousin has a 5.9 laramie and they will pull way beyond what a v-8 should be able to. If that cummins wasnt sitting on his brakes the entire time, 5.9 woulda dragged him down the street.
The magnum was in in 4wd... watch that smoke coming from the front. If that Cummins was in 4 it would be game over. You have an extra 2000lbs+ in that Cummins.
Lol guys, there's that cummins has 610 pounds of ft torque stock. This isn't a good demonstration, and no way a gas will ever out do a diesel in torque, or a tug of war
yeahright221122 At what RPM do they develop that torque? I've seen another demonstration on dirt where the 5.9 Magnum just pulls that Cummins like it isn't even there. It seems that by the time that the Cummins develops that torque, it is way too late, as it can't get traction, because it is already being yanked like a perv's penis in a picture show venue. If you're talking about hauling, like on an open highway, with grades, you can be certain that the Cummins would be more than superior, in most instances, to the 5.9 Magnum. In such an instance as this, though, I think that we all see how that approximate 1,500 RPM range of 300+ ft-lbs of the 5.9 Magnum, available at such a low RPM, is more than enough to prevent that Cummins from even having a chance? This isn't an open road hauling test. This isn't a static pulling test of a stump, or something like that. It's a real world lesson in when and where, coupled with how much, torque is developed, against another pulling force. In this situation, that gasser has the edge. I'd assume that the chip probably helped this specific truck, but certainly not enough to win, considering this, which I assume to be two pretty stock Rams going at it? watch?v=TW0_PaOMwq4
yeahright221122 It just can't build enough boost for it's turbo fast enough to develop that torque and power faster than the 5.9 Magnum does. It is all apples and oranges. In this specific instance, that gasser has the edge over the turbo diesel of similar displacement, even with that L6 power stroke occurring every 120 degrees of crankshaft rotation, vs. the 90 degrees for the V8. 120 degrees will produce more torque, but that 90 degrees, in this instance, is able to develop enough torque, faster, and that L6 can't get it's footing because of that, with all things being equal. It's all apples and oranges. There are different orchards. This one happens to be the gasser's orchard.
brianwesley28 at 1600 rpm there's 610 ft torque. Yes apples and apples. Tires, 4x4, chip. But a diesel will naturally always have more torque then a gasser. And torque is vital in towing. Horsepower is on the higher rpm. So looking at a chart. The horsepower of a 610 Cummins, which is 325 will be at a higher rpm. And at 1600 will be putting out 610ft pounds. but I agree with the other guy that boost is vital too. I work on a tug in the gulf. Bored one day we were pushing another boat for fun. Our boat has a pair of 16v149 natural Detroit's. And the other tug was newer with mtu's turbo. We pushed them all over because even though they had so much more horsepower they couldn't build up enough boost. We're our boat is natural and the blowers have the advantage at lower rpms
+brianwesley28 i love magnum engines. theyre so boss. personally, and im really not an expert.. or well versed in auto mechanics, but i like to poke around and research, and from some of the trucks i've scooted around, those magnum small blocks are fucking awesome. i love my Grand Cherokee 5.2 and i cant wait to rebuild it, as its got 200k on it and stock.
Don't matter if it has more torque if it can't put the torque to the tires b4 it's getting pulled back it's do like u just seen an roll the tires if it can get the power to the tires b4 it's moving it'll out pull it any day but diesels need to build that's why gas engines will start off strong faster
Sweet got my a little cheaper mines a 98 360 4wd Laramie slt 1100$ no rust really only rust is on one door on the passenger side not much tho piece of sheet metal fixed
no... 94-02 dodge 1500-2500 trucks were not posi... they were limited slip without lockers.... you can do a 1 wheel peel all day in a second gen depends on what rear end and gear ratio you have as well.
I get like two in my 360 5.9L but the 5.2 318 my sister has gets about 12mpg because she babies it you can tell the difference between when a car guy drives and a non car person drives one the mpg is worlds apart
+Trent Bertagna he prob meant 5.7.. you know how people are. or on the other hand, he's got an old ram with the 360 mag and he's unaware that before like 2003-04(w.e i dont remeber im no expert) they didnt make hemi's for a long long time. with that said jaiirus66 check the year on that puppy and what have you. if its before like 2005 i think, its not a hemi, but a wege. honestly, lot of people are proud of those old magnums.. im proud of my old 95 grand cherokee with my 5.2 :) she's old, honest, stubborn and she always try's to never let me down, even though i ride her a bit hard she wouldnt love it any other way ah god... i love my jeep :') shes such a dirty bitch. even though its completely stock... even stock its very impressive, to me at least!
