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5 Characters Who Could Beat Sonic 

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Sonic always seems to win at the end of the day. Some people think it's plot armor, others think that Sonic is just built different. However, I comprised a short list of characters who could beat the titular character. #sonic #sonicthehedgehog #sonicsta
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Table of Contents:
0:00​​​​ Introduction
0:54 Character 5
1:42 Character 4
2:48 Character 3
3:53 Character 2
7:15 Honorable Mention
8:03 Character 1
9:45 Outro
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@_NormalEditor
@_NormalEditor 6 месяцев назад
The most likely character to beat Sonic imo is eggman. He has already done it multiple times. He did it in forces, he did it in sonic adventure 2 and he did it in unleashed. All those times sonic just got lucky.
@yay29823
@yay29823 6 месяцев назад
But wait, how did Sonic got lucky in these games?
@_NormalEditor
@_NormalEditor 6 месяцев назад
@@yay29823In sonic forces the zavok illusion was just being stupid by letting sonic out, in sonic adventure 2 he just had plot armour since he somehow learnt how to chaos control out of the capsule just by watching shadow do it earlier. He also somehow teleported directly to the location where knuckles was. And in unleashed eggman could have just sent sonic out into space away from earth.
@SunnyQuantumicity
@SunnyQuantumicity 6 месяцев назад
I actually agree. Let's not forget that Dr. Ivo Robotnik is pretty strong, as seen in Sonic Lost World, IDW Comics, and other instances.
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 6 месяцев назад
I feel like the video is more so talking about beating Sonic in a fight than outsmarting him, and I'll defend the Chaos Control instance since Sonic is treated as Shadow's equal through the game and Shadow himself hints he might be a "Ultimate Life Form" himself(albeit one made by nature instead of technology) That said I completely agree Eggman can beat Sonic Both in Sonic & Knuckles and Advance 2 Eggman's final mecha was so powerful Super Sonic couldnt harm it, needing it's own missiles to do the job, and the later and the boss of Sonic 3 were both capable of damaging Super Sonic very badly And both Gmerl and Metal Overlord who were his creations had Super Sonic on the ropes and if Eggman had sided with them instead of with Sonic they would have won
@yay29823
@yay29823 6 месяцев назад
@@_NormalEditor Oh ok. I do agree on these, though I wouldn't say the second one is plot armor. I just thought it was really neat that Sonic did that.
@SolarFaith
@SolarFaith 6 месяцев назад
I'm surprised you didn't put Metal in here, even as a honorable mention.
@redsoldier568
@redsoldier568 5 месяцев назад
What about Mecha Sonic?
@thepurpleblurr
@thepurpleblurr 5 месяцев назад
I'm surprised he didn't mention mephiles
@YeomasBros.2008
@YeomasBros.2008 5 месяцев назад
@@redsoldier568who cares about him
@redsoldier568
@redsoldier568 5 месяцев назад
@@YeomasBros.2008 he was present in Sonic & Knuckles, and could've defeated Sonic if Sonic was careless.
@FowaJCT
@FowaJCT 6 месяцев назад
8:30 Tails is not smarter than Eggman. Tails may be more clever and Eggman my be more clumsy, but when it comes to intellect, Eggman is smarter. Now Eggman said to Tails that he has potential to be smarter than him.
@playerback7722
@playerback7722 5 месяцев назад
It was stated by official sources they are equal in intelligence
@infamouseli92
@infamouseli92 5 месяцев назад
How not ?
@FowaJCT
@FowaJCT 5 месяцев назад
@@playerback7722 Source?
@-KORAL_ZERO
@-KORAL_ZERO 2 месяца назад
I mean, tails is just a better engineer then him. They are equal in smarts tho. Eggman has an iq of 300, and in sonic battle tails is also said to have iq of 300
@Ynsns989-meow
@Ynsns989-meow 6 месяцев назад
I was very happy when I saw that another being on this planet also respects the great potential Tails has; he is the second best Engineer in the Sonic universe + he was with Sonic in most of his adventures, so he must have learned some fighting skills or even ideas for his new inventions (like the 7 additional tails he made in Sonic Prime) In short, change my mind
@user-qf5fj3mk8e
@user-qf5fj3mk8e 6 месяцев назад
You know, to be honest, before Frontiers, I thought Sonic was underrated, because unlike the others, he didn't have many special abilities to be more experienced. All he could do for a long time was slam his head and curl up into a ball, which everyone could do, and his special moves, such as Sonic Wind, no longer appeared outside of the games he used them. Now that the frontier has finally given him a special move, he's really in a league of its own. Although now they need to reappear in the games so that the new combat system gives them a few more new moves, because now Sonic has more of them, and we need to level it out.
@CSTH1
@CSTH1 6 месяцев назад
Honestly, I think all of these characters have a chance, but some have more of a chance than others, and if it were to come to it, I think Sonic would still win at the end of the day.
@tthfhhgheeee
@tthfhhgheeee 5 месяцев назад
Nah Shadow wins
@blueblaze8105
@blueblaze8105 5 месяцев назад
​@@tthfhhgheeeenot really. Especially not now.
@RandomSkull69420
@RandomSkull69420 5 месяцев назад
​@@tthfhhgheeee Shadow ain't beating Sonic💀
@ultrashadow9551
@ultrashadow9551 5 месяцев назад
​@@blueblaze8105eh, it depends.
@BurningJRed5733
@BurningJRed5733 5 месяцев назад
My opinion on all of these: Shadow - Definitely. Not only does he match Sonic's speed, but he has a lot more abilities at his disposal that can only aid him, like Chaos Spear or Chaos Blast. Not to mention Sonic's fried if Shadow takes off his rings. Silver - Yeah, I agree with this one, but that's because Silver's overpowered. Man has the ability to hold anyone in place with no way of escaping his grasp (other than someone interfering), and then throw them around as he pleases, no wonder Sonic got beaten to near death twice until Amy and Shadow interfered. I feel like everyone always overlooks how powerful his abilities are. Blaze - Ehhh, I'm not fully convinced. Her abilities were on par with Sonic's in Rush sure, and she does have her own set of Emeralds + Super form, but she hasn't been explored all that much to make me think she's on par with Sonic. Infinite - He's also been proven to beat Sonic, and I believe that with the power of the Phantom Ruby he can, but they just held him back for the plot way too much in Forces. He can definitely do some damage though. Knuckles - The problem here is that I feel like Knuckles is too much strength over speed. Like, Sonic could definitely outspeed him in a fight to get the easy win. In the case that he CAN catch up with Sonic, maybe he could stand a chance. He's definitely beefy enough. Tails - I see the vision, but it misses the mark by quite a bit. I believe that Tails' knowledge of Sonic can only get him anywhere if he has prep time before the fight in order to make some Sonic-stopping gear. Otherwise, his skills, abilities and knowledge can't get him to much heights in terms of beating Sonic. He's just a kid after all. But, another bonus point is that if we're being realistic, out of all these candidates Tails is probably the only one that Sonic would be hesitant to fight, which would logically give Tails the upper hand. In the end, I understand the logic, but it needs some heavy specifics for me to buy into it.
@RandomSkull69420
@RandomSkull69420 5 месяцев назад
The problem with Shadow and Silver is that Sonic has been shown to be stronger than both of them Sonic was stated to be faster and more skilled than Shadow, however Shadow was stated to be more intelligent Also Sonic does have loads of abilities, and Shadow isn't even sure if he could beat Sonic without his Inhibitor Rings(Sonic was able to beat Ultimate Emerl, aka Emerl with all 7 Chaos Emeralds and one that was unstable, considering how Shadow w/o IR would also be unstable, the fight would end like the other one, especially since Emerl was shown to be stronger than Shadow) With Silver, it depends Silver is weaker than Sonic(In their first encounter, Sonic beat Silver, however Silver caught Sonic off guard after Sonic was worried about Silver) So unless Silver is manages to catch Sonic off guard, Sonic would win Tails was absolutely false tho, Sonic has the upper hand in almost everyway, however Sonic would be hesitant on fighting Tails, and similar to Silver, unless Tails catches Sonic off guard, Sonic would win Knuckles was pretty much wrong, I mean bro got one tapped by Blaze Also for Blaze, while she's a little below currently, she would definitely put up a good fight Infact, the characters that have the highest chance of beating Sonic here other than infinite is Shadow and Blaze since they are near Sonic's level
@MrLaGzaLoT
@MrLaGzaLoT 5 месяцев назад
Sega confirmed Shadow and Sonic are equal in speed. Also,​Shadow was weakened throughout the entirety of Sonic Battle, so that is not a good comparison to use when scaling him to Sonic.​@RandomSkull69420
@RandomSkull69420
@RandomSkull69420 5 месяцев назад
@@MrLaGzaLoT However I wasn't comparing Shadow in Battle I was talking about how Sonic was able to beat Ultimate Emerl who is above Shadow w/o IR And Sonic was confirmed to be more skilled
@thenamespooh
@thenamespooh 6 месяцев назад
i pretty much agree with everything on this list, when you think about it, the main reason sonic wins as many fights as he does, is because he's SKILLED. shadow for example, pretty much has a clear advantage over sonic. but sonic has the skill and experience to pretty much close the gap. debatably the same case for silver, blaze and knuckles. i honestly miss the older eras where you could actually fight sonic himself and even win against him, showing that he can actually be beaten (adventure, heroes, rush, etc) and it kinda sucks that they nerf the characters. like why doesn't silver use his psychokinesis ON SONIC in their generations fight? why did they nerf infinite in their fight so bad? its kinda wild to be honest
@RossPetersMusic
@RossPetersMusic 6 месяцев назад
Bold move putting Tails in there but not Eggman. lol I can see your reasoning for every character and agree with them all on some level but I was expecting to see Metal Sonic in this list, especially considering his Overlord form.
@JonyPlayz1
@JonyPlayz1 6 месяцев назад
Interesting video! I definitely agree with Blaze honestly, she’s more powerful than we think, we just haven’t seen enough of her and that makes people underestimate the facts. Maybe even Cream would have a possibility lol (with a lot more other characters) Have a blessed day!
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 6 месяцев назад
Sonic is just faster more skilled and experienced than his friends
@TDRR_Gamez
@TDRR_Gamez 5 месяцев назад
Sonic vs Blaze actually ended up in a tie, neither clearly won as far as the story is concerned.
@ZeeecksLegends
@ZeeecksLegends 5 месяцев назад
Kinda crazy when you consider that everyone on this list has lost to Sonic in some way shape or form
@jamesgarcia3842
@jamesgarcia3842 4 месяца назад
Eggman,Metal,Mephiles. That Some More Honorble Mentions
@tjwizzy
@tjwizzy 6 месяцев назад
wasn't Silver in the same situation as Shadow in cutscenes when met sonic, with Sonic and Silver cutscene shows the same thing, in Sonic it was he won, before he tried to help Silver, before getting push to the wall, and Silver case, we just see that of Sonic on the ground?
@SONICSTA
@SONICSTA 6 месяцев назад
Thats a good point, but even still in both endings Silver was the winner because it took Amy showing up for Sonic to escape.
@tjwizzy
@tjwizzy 6 месяцев назад
@SONICSTA Yeah, that is 0 argument. Without Amy, Sonic wouldn't have escaped.
@likop8799
@likop8799 5 месяцев назад
​@@SONICSTAbro you mentioned infinite but not MEPHILES the only one who killed sonic
@SONICSTA
@SONICSTA 5 месяцев назад
Mephiles got a cheap shot. Really don't count.@@likop8799
@PaddiSfm
@PaddiSfm 5 месяцев назад
...sooo do u know how to scale or doing scaling? just asking because...just no.....u didnt do research on sonics feats at all no offense tho
@SONICSTA
@SONICSTA 5 месяцев назад
if you want a video on scaling sonic i have several other videos dedicated to that.
@PinkWolfieLove
@PinkWolfieLove 5 месяцев назад
I feel like many people don't understand just how powerful Silver was in the Archie comics. Silver held his own against Enerjak in his base form while Sonic couldn't do the same in his super form.
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
Archie isn't canon
@doritorancho4735
@doritorancho4735 6 месяцев назад
Bro pulled a Batman on Tails lmao (still i do agree)
@SolarFaith
@SolarFaith 6 месяцев назад
that makes sense actually. The same way Batman can use Kryptonite on Superman, Tails can negate Sonic's speed somehow. Would be interesting to watch
@catherinesmith5421
@catherinesmith5421 6 месяцев назад
Have you ever played sonic generations boss fight sonic vs silver
@user-ei5dc3ng6z
@user-ei5dc3ng6z 6 месяцев назад
None of them can beat him after frontiers claps also tails is not smarter than eggman
@xxlarrytfvwxx9531
@xxlarrytfvwxx9531 6 месяцев назад
For Infinite, I think it could be not burnout, but power being divided.
@gustavoluiz1657
@gustavoluiz1657 6 месяцев назад
I like this, we need to stop treating Sonic as if he was some sort of god who can beat anyone, he needs to be humbled. It would be pretty boring having Sonic being the most capable character and everyone else being always on the sidelines. For example, the Android & Cell saga in DBZ was so great because the Z warriors kept surpassing each other and having their moments and spotlights. However, if we keep treating Sonic as the only one who can fight, the only one who can stop Eggman, the only one who can save the world, the only one who can defeat big monsters... it would be so lame because why would you have such a great roster of characters each one with unique traits and abilities if they're only going to watch? That's why I love the game Shadow the Hedgehog because we see someone else shine, or Knuckles Chaotix because they are the ones who defeat Robotnik.
@Echo-Blade-404
@Echo-Blade-404 5 месяцев назад
you can beat sonic by freezing the floor,i think
@SONICSTA
@SONICSTA 5 месяцев назад
🤣🤣
@user-yf9ov2zn1w
@user-yf9ov2zn1w 5 месяцев назад
@@SONICSTAcan you make video Mephiles vs Infinity
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 5 месяцев назад
Or throw him to the water.
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft 6 месяцев назад
I find it funny that apparently knuckles is strong enough to knock sonic out of super but still lost to him in his base form
@user-ql2ue4em8v
@user-ql2ue4em8v 5 месяцев назад
it was so u dont do the game as super sonic he never performs anything near that feat ever again might be his punch placement or something or maybe he got lucky the real question is how is knux able to be fast enough to catch super sonic off guard and know and react to when he was coming
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft 5 месяцев назад
@@user-ql2ue4em8v Oh I know, I just find it funny
@playerback7722
@playerback7722 5 месяцев назад
Knux was a cheap shot
@caiquetore
@caiquetore 5 месяцев назад
Sonic didn't fight alone! Tails was fighting as well.
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft 5 месяцев назад
@@caiquetore True, but is knuckles is strong enough to punch sonic out of super than he should easily best both sonic and tails Like the other comments said the only reason knuckles was able to knock sonic out of super was so sega could have an in game excuse for the player to collect all emeralds again
@thejellyjar
@thejellyjar 5 месяцев назад
Not spoiling the video with my comment, but excellent final choice. Under the right (and rare) circumstances that could pit them together, they could definitely come out on top. I also think Blaze still deserves to be higher up than Silver on that list, but hey, that's just me.... also 100th comment omg yay
@RSA-zv9hd
@RSA-zv9hd 6 месяцев назад
This makes sense because and not as controversial in opinion. Tails would be a great choice to be against knowing what and how to use his tech skills and fighting abilities. Shadow I could easily see as a contender for beating him. Blaze as well, but she would use the Sol emeralds as last resort if needed to. Knuckles is stronger than Sonic but like you said he can’t think as fast as Sonic. But other than that, this to me is a great video.
@luizmiguel5484
@luizmiguel5484 6 месяцев назад
It's a fair list, everyone mentioned has a chance (including Eggman who always manages to keep pace with the Blue Blur) but one of the key points in all of this, besides the long history of fights, battle experiences, status, powers, skills, hax, etc. is that Sonic has a very rapid rate of evolution and adaptation, as confirmed in Forces he gets stronger every second and this happens even if he doesn't fight or train since he was trapped in the Death Egg, which which is a very useful ability, despite being simple, and there have been a few times where Iizuka said he had no limits, but I think that was more of a catchphrase/emphasis, the point is that even if you knock Sonic down, he comes back even more stronger as soon as he gets up (just like he did with Emerl as an example)
@bonniebunny-xj9ug
@bonniebunny-xj9ug 5 месяцев назад
Mephiles should appear in this list but sadly didn’t.
@mober7430
@mober7430 6 месяцев назад
Sonic beat Shadow and Silver in Generations. Silver couldn’t beat Infinite but Sonic did. But this video is about who CAN beat Sonic. Also about Knuckles, he ambushed Super Sonic and they were on Angel Island, this is Knuckles’s homeland and he knows all the hiding spots and secrets. Also, later in the game Sonic beats Knuckles. Although I do see Tails beating many characters in the series if he has prep time.
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
In Generations Shadow and Silver weren't real. Sonic defeated their projections from the past, not the real Shadow and Silver from the present. Present Shadow is much more powerful than he was in SA2. It was all an illusion of the past events created by Time Eater. And let's be honest Silver couldn’t beat Infinite because he and everyone else in Forces were nerfed as hell for Sonic to be the only almighty hero. Silver even wasn't using his telekinesis against Infinite. And Shadow isn't allowed to take off his inhibitors anymore, because if he did Infinite would've been destroyed.
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 6 месяцев назад
About knux, i do think he is able to beat him, i know they are different universes, but for example in the movies verse Knux always had the upper hand on Sonic, and in sonic X Knuckles made shadow take his innhibitor rings of.
@knowingjordankid
@knowingjordankid 6 месяцев назад
In my opinion I really think that these characters in this video could beat Sonic. I honestly think that the character that could beat Sonic Blaze and Infinite in my opinion and you don’t have to agree with me on that. Great video My dude)
@FunniTheDoggo
@FunniTheDoggo 6 месяцев назад
I don't really think any of these characters beside maybe shadow could beat Sonic. It has been shown that Sonic gets a lot stronger as seen in sonic generations when he takes on Perfect chaos while not being in his Super form. But then there's also Sonic's trump card which is Hyper Sonic, it is very vague how strong Hyper is but I think that would give him the victory for most of these fights.
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 6 месяцев назад
yeah but thats mainly to him being the MC, also he is not the only one that can get stronger overtime,
@secoTheSonicFan
@secoTheSonicFan 5 месяцев назад
These characters can hypothetically beat Sonic, but Sonic is the main character. When Shadow is the main character of his game he defeats Sonic. If there was a Rouge the Bat videogame, she would probably knock out Sonic during a boss battle. But storywise, Silver can probably defeat Sonic in some circumstances. A cartoon that or movie purely story based would probably have Shadow win a few times if he battled Sonic
@theinktician
@theinktician 5 месяцев назад
egmman beat Sonic in the intro of Sonic Unleashed. Anything is possible lol - going into theories about how Hyper Sonic does is just death battle/power scaling DBZ talk. None of that stuff actually happens in stories, and they won't If they did, Superman would win every battle in every comic ever
@playerback7722
@playerback7722 5 месяцев назад
@theinktician Eggman bad prep time and didn't really beat him he was retraining his super Sonic powers for the cannon
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
Let's be honest. The only reason that Sonic is the only one who is getting stronger in the last games, is that he is actually THE ONLY ONE who was playable all these years. We simply don't see any other character evolution because Sega wasn't using any other character in the games for like 10 years except for insignificant cameo or NPC. In the adventure era we had an evolution of Tails, Knuckles, Shadow etc. Then Sega decided to scrap that and made it all about Sonic. But that doesn't mean he is the only one getting stronger. He just the only one whom Sega gives all attention. And Hyper Sonic isn't canon.
@TailsMK4
@TailsMK4 5 месяцев назад
I figured I would give my two cents on the last pick since there was something that SONICSTA was unsure about. To make a long story short, Tails had some internal drama with himself regarding an Archie-exclusive character that turned out to be a really bad person anyway (Fiona chose Scrouge over Tails). It was the way that Sonic handled the drama that made Tails think that Sonic did not really care about how Tails was feeling, and Tails started building some resentment to Sonic (Sonic even comments later that Tails was becoming a bit like Shadow at the end after their fight). Tails eavesdropped on Sonic when some other character asked Sonic if he was going to talk to Tails about what he was feeling about the whole situation involving Tails's dad and other people that had issues with the way King Acorn was running things, Sonic responded that Tails would eventually get over it and was not going to talk to him. This caused Tails to snap and start attacking Sonic. The fight itself did not take up a lot of pages in the comics, but Tails had the upper hand on Sonic due to how versatile he was. Keep in mind that the Archie version of Tails was much stronger than his game version, though IDW Tails is pretty strong too. Sonic ended up having to run while trying to think of how to stop the fight, and Tails was able to keep up with Sonic's speed. The fight only stopped because Sonic apologized to Tails and said he would try to make things right. Tails had no gadgets or anything to help him out; this was a straight out brawl that Tails might have eventually won because whatever Sonic could do, Tails was able to do just a little better. I thought of Tails as well when the video started, but generally the internet tends to make Tails pretty weak, so I was not expecting to see him on the list. It is a bit of a stretch to think of him as a contender, however, considering some of the recent games Tails has been in (Forces comes to mind) where he is generally pathetic.
@ixiahj
@ixiahj 5 месяцев назад
C'mon. A lot of characters can beat Sonic. The only reason he wins all the time is because he always has back up from his friends. He doesn't win by himself.
@Boy54-qp5pg
@Boy54-qp5pg 3 месяца назад
8:13 I guessed it Edit: someone who can definitely beat sonic: big the cat🗿
@EmaleeM
@EmaleeM 5 месяцев назад
The editing in this video is **chef’s kiss** absolutely beautiful. And I don’t see anything controversial about your picks, I was surprised with Tails, but after the explanation, I can see why you picked him. And yeah, plenty of bad writing in Forces like you wrote lol 4:04 to 4:08
@catherinesmith5421
@catherinesmith5421 6 месяцев назад
Btw infinite would get wrecked against sonic and shadow (except for silver)
@RackerTheRascalMashup
@RackerTheRascalMashup 6 месяцев назад
Nah, they would all lose now unless infinite spams clones to extreme amounts, even if they teamed up, sonic is just way too strong now Especially when he knows everyone and how they fight, Sonic's also an genius in fighting and Could probably find breaches in all of their battle tactics
@bluephoenix_z3364
@bluephoenix_z3364 6 месяцев назад
Fax
@RackerTheRascalMashup
@RackerTheRascalMashup 5 месяцев назад
​@knuckles0369lmao Bro, Sega buffed sonic hard in the latest game both in power and moveset to bizarre amounts
@SpoonAtNoon
@SpoonAtNoon 5 месяцев назад
Due to Generations, I think Sonic beats Shadow, with the inhibater rings making it a stomp in Shadows favor
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
In Generations Sonic defeated Shadow from the past, it was a projection, not the real Shadow from the present. Present Shadow is much more powerful than he was in SA2. Generations Silver wasn't real as well, it was all an illusion of the past events created by Time Eater.
@SpoonAtNoon
@SpoonAtNoon 4 месяца назад
@@ceylancobalt3117 but what about the other characters? they weren't fake, so what makes that Silver and that Shadow not the present one? I know they are antagonistic, but what is their dialogue?
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
@@SpoonAtNoon other characters were just frozen in time. As for Silver and Shadow, Sega decided to nerf them so Sonic could be the only one unbeatable hero of the franchise. Wasn't it strange to you that Silver and Shadow didn't turn super in the end of Generations? They have superforms too, you know. Yet still it were Sonic and Classic only who turned super. Why? Cause Sega nerfed Silver and Shadow, that's why. No one can be more powerful than Sonic. That's Sega's current policy. That's also the reason Silver and Shadow are absent in Frontiers. Sega can't allow anyone to save the world except for their beloved mascot.
@bluechairr
@bluechairr 5 месяцев назад
I can't believe you didn't mention big big solos
@lukethepuncher9888
@lukethepuncher9888 5 месяцев назад
maybe i wouldn't put tails at first, but I'm pretty ok with the list. Although at 2nd (or even 1st) I'd put Blaze, since she's some sort of Sonic+Knuckles+Tail+Shadow mash-up characheter
@scarletlion1318
@scarletlion1318 5 месяцев назад
I feel like Silver is more tougher than we think he is. I mean he was almost able to kill sonic and was able to stop a God like being. So I'm really giving some credit towards Silver. But if I were to think of other characters I would think Chip because he is literally a person who we start a cycle with Earth. And has the Gaia Colossus to destroy Sonic. And another character is maybe Mephiles the Dark because he was able to kill him although behind his back and unaware. And he's fused to another deity that makes some a God like figure combined so I feel like he could have a chance.
@CamCamVA
@CamCamVA 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, for number one I did not see that coming 😅
@Itz_Jello
@Itz_Jello 6 месяцев назад
It’s good to be back…
@SBGamingPlus
@SBGamingPlus 5 месяцев назад
The Top 4 characters I can see beating Sonic are: 1. Shadow Because of his limiters on his wrist that give him an extra boost with his chaos abilities, powers and speed. 2. Knuckles Out of every character in the sonic franchise he's the only one who has managed to knock out Supersonic in his base form. Not to mention he is the guardian of the master emerald and he's able to control the output of the chaos energy like he did in adventure 2. Honestly Knuckles should be better at using the chaos emeralds then Sonic since he's the guardian of the one that controls them and has an ancestral history that ties to the emeralds (Adventure 1) 3. Tails As mention in the video Tails knows pretty much everything about sonic being that he's his best friend and has known him since sonic 2 when the first met. He knows all of Sonic's moves, strengths, and weakness. Plus like you said he is really smart too, one of his greatest inventions that impressed me in my opinion was back in Adventure 2 where he created the fake emerald that could replicate the same powers of a real Chaos emerald which is really impressive given the the chaos emeralds have unlimited power as stated by tails back in adventure 1 when he showed a real chaos emerald to Sonic. If Tails could make something like that then he has a very good chance of beating Sonic. (Wonder why Eggman never thought of make 7 fake chaos that could replicate the real ones, since he's seen tails do it speaking of Eggman...) 4. Eggman Like tails is very smart he creates a bunch of doomsday level stuff on the daily. I mean look back at Sonic 3 where this man built a big station the size of the moon known as the (Death Egg) which hosted a bunch of stations to take out sonic. Don't forget he built metal sonic that can mimic all of Sonic's abilities even transformations as we saw in the final boss of knuckles playthrough in Sonic 3 and in Heroes too. He also blew up half the moon back in adventure 2 and he created the robot time eater which could do battle against super sonic in a timeless void (Sonic Generations). Overall Eggman's a worthy opponent considering the things has made on a daily basis which shows what he's truly capable of and why he's so dangerous without Sonic to stop him. Overall this is my conclusion as to which characters that I can see beating Sonic.
@tejasb1239
@tejasb1239 5 месяцев назад
A few corrections. For Eggman, he lost to Sonic, once the Hedgehog went super. And planet busting weapons do not work on Sonic. Plus the Time Eater is not something Eggman created on his own. It is a primordial entity with abilities Eggman himself couldn't master. So he robotized it and used it against Sonic. His best hope is that he has gadgets that can harness Chaos energy, the Phantom Ruby, and the Sol Emeralds, all of which compliment Sonic's powers.
@SBGamingPlus
@SBGamingPlus 5 месяцев назад
@@tejasb1239 Thanks for the correction! Also are the Sol emeralds still cannon? Because Blaze being from an alternate dimension in Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure got retcon in Sonic 06 where it says she's from the future along with Silver. How can the Sol emeralds still be a thing when Silver and Blaze mainly use the Chaos emeralds in 06?
@tejasb1239
@tejasb1239 5 месяцев назад
@@SBGamingPlus idk about that though? Maybe they're gone, or they are still there.
@theinktician
@theinktician 5 месяцев назад
@@tejasb1239 Well thats true, but Eggman certainly has beaten Sonic before - including Super Sonic. In the intro of Unleashed, Eggman won the battle, even if it was a matter of cheap tricks - it's up to Sonic not to fall for stuff
@tejasb1239
@tejasb1239 5 месяцев назад
@@theinktician Like I said before, machines that can utilize Chaos energy is Eggman's best hope.
@scnbadguy5012
@scnbadguy5012 5 месяцев назад
Some corrections in the Infinite segment In the second boss fight after you beat Infinite he defeats Sonic in the cutscene, also when Infinite made those clones at the end the Phamtom Ruby was heavily weakened by thay time
@thebighamster9877
@thebighamster9877 6 месяцев назад
Eggman and Metal too, I'm my opinion at least
@EternityVoid_
@EternityVoid_ 5 месяцев назад
With Infinite, he beat Sonic twice. Sonic only won once against him.
@knuxuki1013
@knuxuki1013 5 месяцев назад
I love that Tails 2ww your number 1,he is amart but it's never shown off, he can fight but he's treated as 'just a nerd' and I absolutely hate it because he's not a fun character to me anymore, which is a shame, I used to love his character so much
@badgamer123thereckoning2
@badgamer123thereckoning2 5 месяцев назад
Well these are hot takes and are logical due to your research but supposedly sonic holds back his power so thses characters do have a chance but the probability of sonic unleashing his true power is troublesome to this video
@SuperCyberEditz
@SuperCyberEditz 5 месяцев назад
💀 oh boy i aint even gonna try to argue (BUT SILVER BEATING SONIC 💀 the only reason silver even stood a chance is because sonic had eggman on his ass almost the entire game and he tried to reason with silver [like he always does with his enemies]) Edit: didn't infinite get victimised by the fucking avatar 💀
@demondogace2780
@demondogace2780 5 месяцев назад
If these are fights without the chaos emeralds then MIGHTY THE ARMADILLO should have been on this list, not only does he have the speed to keep up with sonic but his strength and durability puts not only sonic but most characters on this list to shame.
@GabrieIPlayz
@GabrieIPlayz 6 месяцев назад
Sage, when she tried to attack Sonic in Ares, Knuckles was the one to save him
@vjthehandsome5659
@vjthehandsome5659 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, I can agree with all of these. Dont get me wrong. Sonic is FAR from being an underdog, but if you were to compare his power with that of other characters, he would probably be in the top 5. If you compare his wits with others, then he's above average at best. Sonic has a lot of strengths, but he has a lot of weaknesses that other characters can exploit in a fight. I find the fact that he has beaten characters that have the ability to beat him much more interesting than he can beat them because he's better for some reason. I think it makes Sonic a more refreshing protagonist.
@lamarfll
@lamarfll 5 месяцев назад
I will say, my only real issue with this video is you downplaying just how powerful Infinite is, Sonic got the upper hand on Infinite in their second encounter, but its pretty obvious Infinite wasn't taking it seriously, as the cutscene right after shows him defeating Sonic, then their final encounter makes it pretty clear Sonic only beats Infinite due to the avatar being there. Really due to Infinite's powerset, he should be pretty unstoppable in most situations, since his abilities are limited to just what he can imagine, and we see him make a sun, nothing was really stopping him from doing it again to defeat Sonic beyond the fact Sonic is the main character and has to win. But over all, I completely agree with you on these characters being able to possibly defeat Sonic, if his main character plot armor isn't going into overdrive to protect him.
@psiundertale9193
@psiundertale9193 5 месяцев назад
Shadow: *lost to sonic, who he was trying to kill in the arc, but sonic still won* Silver: *trying to kill sonic, yet a pretty much suprresed sonic still won (didn't sonic break out of his telekinetic grasp by willpower alone?)* Blaze: *technically already lost to sonic in rush* Knuckles: *lost to sonic on his debut game, and so on* Tails: I can see it...I'll agree that if tails were to go evil or something, he'd definitely give sonic trouble because tails knows him the best.
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 6 месяцев назад
Sa2 literally states for Shadow to be a fraud and we all know Sonic has won the " final rush"
@jevoncummings
@jevoncummings 5 месяцев назад
I feel like Eggman, Mephiles, and maybe Amy should've been on this list
@Dreq458
@Dreq458 3 месяца назад
Shadow, Silver, Knuckles, Omega, Metal Sonic, and Blaze are the best living contenders. Maybe Gemerl too.
@ItsYaDudeTrue
@ItsYaDudeTrue 5 месяцев назад
How did I know bro was gonna drop Tails on the last one 😂
@crazydaysifinity359
@crazydaysifinity359 5 месяцев назад
In the big battle against infinite the phantom Ruby was weakened plus the second time they met, infinite canonically won
@pugman9672
@pugman9672 6 месяцев назад
I think my controversial pick for who can beat sonic is Omega. Humanity went to him when they needed shadow gone and in the future we see that it happened. So my logic is that shadow and sonic are so evenly matched and omega took out shadow then he can take out sonic. BUT this all happened in sonic 06 that’s the iffy part
@yay29823
@yay29823 6 месяцев назад
This is only controversial because Omega does not have that many fans (I think) but if anybody think about it for two seconds it's obvious Omega can beat Sonic. Omega can beat almost everyone in the cast, at least I can't think of anyone stronger than Omega right now.
@theinktician
@theinktician 5 месяцев назад
I actually don't think any of these should be controversial - I've been throwing the idea of Tails being Sonic's deadliest "what-if" enemy for years. Glad someone shares that sentiment. He's the best of both worlds with Sonic and Eggmans' abilities - and he knows Sonic better than anyone.
@user-om7jm5vv3q
@user-om7jm5vv3q 5 месяцев назад
Juste to say some of those characters dont stand a chance against sonic exemples: Silver won his first fight because sonic dropped his gard since we can hear sonic saying to a tired silver ( hey! ) like hey you good. Blaze got beaten like nothing in rush since at the end of theire fight sonic is calm and as won the fight eseally and the last one Tails is too slow , he doesn't think as fast then sonic tails as no stamina he can fly just 20 secondes and he's not strong enought to deal any damage to sonic
@anthonydouglass4888
@anthonydouglass4888 2 месяца назад
Kabal from mortal kombat
@jehurevo25
@jehurevo25 5 месяцев назад
Even Sonicsta acknowledges the JJK memes 😭
@DSmith3279
@DSmith3279 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand how people don't think that Infinite can beat Sonic in a fight. Especially since he's done it before....twice. By himself, with his own power. Sonic was never able to defeat him by himself, even after weakening the Phantom Ruby by destroying the Death Egg, the thing that was amping the ruby's strength. Sonic only beat Infinite after nerfing his power and getting backup against him. Infinite is honestly one of, if not, THE STRONGEST character Sonic has ever faced. Put some respect on his name.
@Gmoney_21
@Gmoney_21 5 месяцев назад
The strongest is either metal madness or Solaris, it literally took three people in their super forms to beat em
@user-om7jm5vv3q
@user-om7jm5vv3q 5 месяцев назад
Sonic did not even used his super form to beat Infinite and the avatar we use in the game is not canon so Sonic won on his own
@Vecibwfhfih6fg72fhi3hfij3gonei
@Vecibwfhfih6fg72fhi3hfij3gonei 5 месяцев назад
none of the 5 were controversional
@Unnamedmemebase
@Unnamedmemebase 6 месяцев назад
Okay so I know he really only appeared in one game but I'll take any excuse to talk about Emerl. I think if Emerl didn't die at the end of battle he totally would've surpassed sonic and friends even at the end of the game sonic had to basically go all out to beat him and Emerl never even got to fight characters like Silver or Metal Sonic who he also could've inherited crazy abilities from. Def makes honorable mention at least
@JohnnyTightlips2007
@JohnnyTightlips2007 5 месяцев назад
Should have added Enerjak.
@Gmoney_21
@Gmoney_21 5 месяцев назад
My nga from least to most it goes Tails
@Geometryduudez
@Geometryduudez 5 месяцев назад
Tails cook sonic in the comic but they became friends because sonic said that he hooked up with tails crush so he did move on because his crush has no interested in tails but sonic
@MELONClownster
@MELONClownster 5 месяцев назад
God Robotnik pulls up
@theintenseguy4671
@theintenseguy4671 5 месяцев назад
Remember that Sonics biggest weakness is that he can't swim and Perfect Chaos was basically a God made out of water. If he didn't have the chaos emeralds with him, the fight between them wouldn't even exist.
@B.Toast10
@B.Toast10 5 месяцев назад
I honestly agree with Tails being on this list, we’ve never actually SEEN Tails in action by himself much and yeah he does know sonic better than anyone
@ixiahj
@ixiahj 5 месяцев назад
Tails has already beaten Sonic in an episode of Sonic Boom. They had a bet if Tails can build a trap to catch Sonic and he used Sonic's inability to swim as a means to trap him. He did win.
@yoder6162
@yoder6162 5 месяцев назад
I'd put Mighty on the list. Not only is Mighty faster than Knuckles while still being on par with him in power, but his spin dash and roll jump are strong enough to deflect several types of projectiles and protect from blunt force, especially in the comics, and also has tough martial arts skills on top of it.
@dantemitsoyu977
@dantemitsoyu977 5 месяцев назад
Classic maybe not modern
@yoder6162
@yoder6162 5 месяцев назад
@@dantemitsoyu977 I think he's tougher than people give him credit. Stronger than Sonic, who actually has a nice degree of Super Strength and faster than Knuckles, back in the day, Knuckles used to be faster than Tails and nowhere near as slow as he was before Frontiers and his outer shell has shown he can keep up with even Metal Sonic. In the Archie Comics, he was one of Knuckles best enforcers in the Chaotic, where he's the leader, and known as one of the best fighters in Team Sonic overall, even holding off the Werehog.
@dmkq9554
@dmkq9554 5 месяцев назад
Vanilla would annihilate him
@smiaj3777
@smiaj3777 5 месяцев назад
Surprised Omega wasn’t on here ( thinking about how in 06 it was confirmed that he killed/captured Shadow)
@blueblaze8105
@blueblaze8105 5 месяцев назад
Mostly because it is reasonable to assume shadow was worn down by gun before Omega caught him.
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
Who said Mephiles was telling the truth? He lied to Silver, he could've lied to Shadow as well.
@chrisdelgado3720
@chrisdelgado3720 16 дней назад
My list would had been 5. Shadow 4, 3 blaze, 2 metal sonic, 1. knuckles
@pumpkintron8969
@pumpkintron8969 5 месяцев назад
1:zavok 🔥 2:zazz 3:zeena 4:master zik 5:zom zom Not zor tho
@SONICSTA
@SONICSTA 5 месяцев назад
FACTS‼️‼️
@chillyz0
@chillyz0 5 месяцев назад
I mean eggman basically almost took out the world with the metal virus even sonic and his friends were infected AND THATS CANON!
@tejasb1239
@tejasb1239 5 месяцев назад
One thing is that Sonic did burn off that infection by running. Eggman's only option is to upgrade the Egg Salamander or Egg Wizard, and use all the chaos emeralds on them. Or he can combine the Sol Emeralds, Phantom Ruby and the Chaos Emeralds and use all of their powers on Sonic.
@servedbot7377
@servedbot7377 6 месяцев назад
You forgot emerl from sonic battle
@tavellcoops
@tavellcoops 5 месяцев назад
Oh shadow could end sonic if he really wanted to especially without inhibiters
@hihi-nm3uy
@hihi-nm3uy 5 месяцев назад
To tack onto that, if I'm being real, Infinite never really loses to Sonic in a fair fight. The second fight you mentioned actually just ends in Sonic getting no-sold; Infinite is a dipshit, so he never finishes him off. He's clearly written to be the strongest character in the plot, but the story is just really badly done so there's lots of inconsistencies. For one, if all it takes to beat Infinite is Sonic + an athletic mobian, why did a team of Knuckles and Silver not obliterate him? If Shadow's been here this whole time, why couldn't he have used Dark Shadow, Chaos Boost or removed his inhibitor rings to assumedly absolutely beat the snot out of him? How strong even is Infinite? The 'infinite copies' thing poorly translates over into battles, and we're never given a clear sense of what he can do.
@taketheshot2313
@taketheshot2313 5 месяцев назад
Also if we really wanna get technical with Tails technically in the Archie comics he has a form called Titan Tails, which is technically stronger then Archie Sonic although he only popped up once so yeah
@Sebo994
@Sebo994 5 месяцев назад
Imagine being the metal version of sonic but just being a fucking tin can nowadays 🥲 Man sent form robot sonic to just a robot
@TiMBanGboNganddroy
@TiMBanGboNganddroy 5 месяцев назад
And also the animals the shadow has been living against a prime fish and sonic prime and he has the same abilities as sonic but much faster. He also can use guns. I just feel bad I’m not trying to be nice and friendly, but he can. I’m not is true that he can use gunsand what is games we can use guns to shoot something and also if he has the same ability who will win in the battle, so that means shadow has dark shadow
@RaiginAnimator
@RaiginAnimator 5 месяцев назад
I’m pretty sure prime Is gonna show how much of a a menace Tails Could be if he wanted to If Tails really wanted to he could easily make a mecha sonic/Metal sonic copy and Jump sonic with him THAT EASY!
@SunnyZImagination
@SunnyZImagination 6 месяцев назад
I agree with everyone on this list, It ain't controversial In my eyes. Tails Is genuinely believable especially with his brains and knowledge.
@VictorHugoSoares.
@VictorHugoSoares. 6 месяцев назад
Why tails
@Echo-fo2nf
@Echo-fo2nf 5 месяцев назад
Uh- uh- Wait. Where's the other Sonic?! Where's Metal Sonic?! Are you just not counting him because we already kinda saw him beat Sonic as Super Neo Metal Sonic or did the thought just never occur to you?
@TiMBanGboNganddroy
@TiMBanGboNganddroy 5 месяцев назад
Row but shadow can be silver, so why isn’t shadow of the list?
@user-qm5en7jy6h
@user-qm5en7jy6h 5 месяцев назад
Honestly if tails became a villian I think he'd do a better job than eggman he knows the strengths and weakness of every hero and villian he's even strong enough to beat chaos four plus I think he could takeover the world much faster than eggman
@yumirosefsc
@yumirosefsc 5 месяцев назад
Blaze could kick sonics ass tbh. Blaze being just as powerful as sonic with heals means shes working with a nerf
@RealSuperStar_SonicSpeed
@RealSuperStar_SonicSpeed 5 месяцев назад
infinite is the only one who doesn't stand a chance on this list
@redsoldier568
@redsoldier568 5 месяцев назад
I agree with the list. Something about Knuckles, I think it's just plot armor. In S3&K he punched Sonic out of super form with his bare knuckles, and Sonic can't break the walls in that game that he can. Yet somehow in Hidden Palace, Sonic (and even Tails) can defeat Knuckles very easily. And I don't know if the Sonic movie is relevant here, but Knuckles sure could've beaten Sonic in their first fight scene too.
@generaltage4936
@generaltage4936 6 месяцев назад
Metal Sonic may not be on the list, but I get why: He IS Eggman’s most powerful robot ever built. But the only reason Sonic still beats him is because Metal Sonic is so strong that he cannot be defeated 1v1; Metal Sonic has to be ganged up on in order to be defeated.
@secoTheSonicFan
@secoTheSonicFan 5 месяцев назад
Why doesnt Metal Sonic team up with other robots then?
@ceylancobalt3117
@ceylancobalt3117 4 месяца назад
About Shadow. In their battle on the Ark in SA2 it was Shadow who canonically won. If Sonic wins, he destroys the Eclipse canon, but in the Last Story the Eclipse canon isn't destroyed. Which means that Shadow was the winner. Although he wasn't trying to kill Sonic in that battle, his plan was to detain Sonic long enough for Eggman to place all the chaos emeralds in the Eclipse canon and launch Ark's self-destruct program. After that was done, Ark started to fall and Shadow wasn't interested in Sonic anymore.
@epicbattles123
@epicbattles123 5 месяцев назад
Just Know All Of Them Loses Sonic Could Just Stop Time With Tails
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