5. From Panic to Suffering 

Watching Minsky struggle with basic powerpoint stuff is pretty reassuring.

I feel better about myself hearing some of these students talk and knowing they're at MIT

0:30 ~ Consciousness 25:55 ~ Qualia 58:20 ~ Causal Diversity 1:31:55 ~ Sci-Fi

tell us about the island

I want to give this guy some water

Marvin is a genius and the 🐐 of lip smacking asmr ❤️

I feel so grateful of having the opportunity to see this whole lecture

Get this man a glass of freaking water omg

So bright, so kind, such a great listener such a great teacher.

soy de argentina llegue aca y me sirvio muchisimo. Gracias por su trabajo honorable viejardo. le deseo todo lo bueno a toda su organizacion.

The first topics discussed IS THERE A CENTRAL PROBLEM OF CONSCIOUSNESS? Minsky disagrees with Pinker... 21:00 What is going on in Joan's mind? 21:50 Minsky asserts that there is no hard problem of consciousness. 24:00 There are lots of hard problems. 26:00 the central problem is qualia 30:18 Why do the philosophers pick on colour? 32:00 Diagrams of inside Joan's mind 33:00 two mental activities 34:46 "the processes that we lump into consciousness involve lots of different activities" 39:00 IS THERE something "simple, indescribable and absolute" about certain qualities? 48:50 They want to... say that they can't imagine how anything that has an explanation... could feel pain or sorrow or anxiety... And I think this is a curious idea that is stuck in our culture, which is that: If something is hard to express, then it must be because it is so different from everything else that there's no way tl describe it. 51:46 What is pain? Pain is a reaction of some very smart parts of your mind, to the malfunctioning of other parts of your mind. 53:30 Why "The Emotion Machine" only mentions qualia once. 54:40 Causal Diversity idea. If there's a phenomenon going on (e.g. being in pain), how do you explain it?

That "for example" guy is back at it 🙄

1:45 lip smoking makes me sleep

Damn, MIT used the projected title for my autobiography on this video clip.

i know a dog they took with a car and abandoned on the other side of an 8 lanes highway and he returnrd Also seen on the net a cat found his family when they moved homes and couldnt find him before leaving ,Of course it makes sense that participating is the way they/we learn but they must have other ways too

Not bad for 87.

I see he upgraded the projector slides lol

botany is plants not mushrooms (which is mycology) 1:36:34

Im just here for the ASMR 😴😴

shout out for the person choosing the thumbnails

Love this guy :)

Am I the only one listening to this and literally not understanding what the hell he's talking about?

It seems as though real consciousness would be a byproduct of child bearing enhanced in the hyper social animal. A learned trait of empathy in debt to offspring/bloodline/antibully/survival.

this man is a treasure.

free will is when you are unaware of what made you do that

It would have been interesting to see Minsky's reaction to what AI in 2024 is capable of. Maybe a video with ASMR mouth sounds more soporific than Minsky's. Anyway RIP and I thank him for my best sleeps.

In the process of growing, the main concern is how to overcome egoism and dig up the roots of evil.

The idea of free will has that important to law but to ignorant people. You can punish ppl committing crime, and the reason is to protect yourself. The real question isn't "Was this meditated?" but how likely this is to repeat. And after all, if all has a cause and we don't have a choice, then even without the idea of free will, that crime was un-avoidable. Anyone has a different idea?

Does MIT charge tuitions for this?

interesting to listen to him. as a side note, though, i suppose if i never took philosophy courses i would likely also walk away from his lecture and have acquired an impression that the philosophy department probably deserves to be on the chopping block during the next round of budget cuts. I would actually go study philosophy from philosophers, though, before drawing my own opinion about it.

Can anybody tell me where in the lecture suffering is discussed? Why is panic and suffering in the title?

About half a billion... and I'm right!! Bazinga!

RIP

Food for thought 🤔

1:27:54 - 1:28:46

So why don't animals "utilize" free will? My dog does the same shit every day. When will he begin to learn English?

I can’t believe how dry-mouthed these MIT professors are, it’s becoming somewhat of a common theme in these free RU-vid courses.

I wish RU-vid had a 4X speed option

what are K-lines?

Yes, Euclid knew of ellipses.

He defines a toothache as the symptom of pain. Thank god his dentist had actual clinical insight.

12:02 was that a fart??

Really unfortunate this guy passed before seeing LLMs come to fruition.

god, what kind of food ate this guy,

3:55 is me 😂😂😂

"They help to keep you alive, but they won't help you write your thesis". I disagree... I do find this man to be brilliant but he is most definitely mistaken with regards to how anxiety and cortisol work. Without the proper emotions, you wouldn't feel the pressure of the upcoming deadline. If you didn't have enough cortisol you'd probably fall asleep.

😊😊

Horrible Audio during the end

1:50:26 Noam Chomsky has been real quiet since this dropped

So theoretical....What's the midterm going to be on? Describe the brain in terms of K Lines?

MAY A MACHINE IMIC CONCIOUSNESS ???

I think he is wrong. Blue and green versus vanilla and chocolate. He doesn't get it. But who am I?

N emotions are n bits but that is the number of emotions not the information provided by n emotions...

Vicks Formula 44 used to have codeine in it.......

My belief is the animals act more sane than humans.

MIT students cant explain RAM and drive types

He doesn't present an actual argument against the hard problem of consciousness. He just reduces it to a program and offers the most tedious list of tautologies I've ever seen on a projector in my life.

this 1:28:39

still can't grow hair on our head or cure depression.

27:40 heavennnnn

Probs of artif intell and logic paradoxes. Wonderful irony having computer prob. 'From panic to suffering' to me sounds bit like Buddhism. Don't panic and carry a towel aka keep a sense of humor, arrow of time shorter so yup, delivery of wisdom requires more patient suffering than willing to invest unless can close caption and turn off sound!

This is so hard to follow. He doesn’t finish his sentences. He seems to simultaneously really know his subject matter, and then also “forget” the salient details of the tangents he takes.

how the hell did I get here

3:52 he spontaneously morphs into Donald trump

I hate how all these questions are so interesting and all the people thinking about them take themselves so seriously while talking about things in the air, sounding like such snobs. I hope that this wandering leads to a more rigorous understanding. It makes me uncomfortable.

Re: Red and green and stabbed: what if you are color blind? I've never seen a point missed by so much

What computers don't have is cognitive thinking 🤔.... it c a n not comput a real human mind....

17:20 LIP SMAKING IS MAKING ME YARN! 11:51 LIP SMAKING

"slurp slurp slurp slurp the brain slurpslurp slurp is comparable to slurp slurp slurp the larger brain slurp slurp slurp if youre not a fish slurp slurpslurp bad combination slurp slurp slurp"

Artificial

He's an atheist Which always confused me. The fact your admitting you don't believe in a god is saying it exists ... Just you don't believe in it. Why wouldn't he go with agnostic???

This guy needs to clear his hockers before he lectures.

He has certainly made his mind up. Philosophy asks questions. He did not.

Any other teachers on this ?? This guy is not the person to be teaching at all

Human beings trying to be god will fail every time

He don't get what's the real, and huge, philosophical problem in the AI. Yet the old fool laughs about his own arrogance and stupidity. Philosophy isn't his field, yet he, -llike almost all the people-, thinks everybody who is able to think is a born philosopher. If you tell them they aren't they get ballistic.

Misophonia Alert

This guy is terrible. How did he get this position lecturing at MIT? He's shallow and speaks gibberish.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Gen 1:1. Evolution is such a fallacy with no observable examples. What a hopeless theory.

This is empty

Yeah I can't watch this guy anymore since he was a visitor of the Epstein island and named in the depositions.

This is what passes for philosophy these days? No wonder society is so frail and shallow.

Lol what a delusional old man. He's definitely not as smart as people are pretending. He's not saying anything of value. This is more like a charity to make an old man feel important still.

No. You mean 6 thousand years ago. We haven't been around for no millions of years. Y'all lie soooo damn much smh

So intelligent... but believes in evolution ?? Strange how he can be so clever and a complete fool at the same time.

This is the issue with even high level professors on this topic, very long (bordering on rambling) lectures with no real determination of fact.