Marcellin Muzaaya gender is directly tied to your sex, brain & chromosomes, everything in your body is gendered down to your dna, hence why you can only be male or female
Like as a woman I can’t chop wood now cos That’s a man thing? Am I nonbinary cos I like sport, chop wood when I have to? I though we where in 2023 and not somewhere in 1800s😂😂
Main problem is "what is a woman" because as a male I can't know how it feels like to be a woman. If I can know then maybe I am a woman too, but I don't know. It is ok to be for example a gay, you can identify clearly what it is. But othe stuff it doesn'h have sense first of all because it's like diagnosing your helt problems using google search.
@@city8742... Some people are BORN with a Hormonal Imbalance ... females have more male hormones then female and males have more feminine hormones than masculine ... It's not complicated really but it wasn't explained clearly when it should have been DECADES ago.
I feel these people focus on the gender stereotypes even more. Who said women can’t wear pants without still being a woman? Masculine and feminine is not the same as gender
Not being a masculine man or a feminine woman doesn't mean you are a new gender. There is no cookie cutter definition of what traits a man or woman should be like. It's called being yourself for a reason. Not being a stereotypical man or woman and saying that you are not a man because you like to wear dresses is just enforcing the stereotypes that you can't be a man and like dresses too.
Ad B you can dress how you wish. But being trans and nonbinary has nothing to do with silly little things like what bit of cloth you put on in the morning. It’s much more than that. This video was a very basic 101 class. I found it to be oversimplified.
They never said that they’re not men because they chose to wear a dress. They’re non binary because they don’t feel like a man or a woman. For example, the way I dress doesn’t define my gender identity, because it’s an intrinsic knowledge i have of myself.
@@graypetcoyle i understand trans people because they have genuine gender dysphoria but I just don't understand the concept of non binary. Either way, if my comment comes of as offensive, tell me, I'll remove it. I am trying to understand more about nb people recently and I had forgot about this comment, because just because I don't understand them doesn't mean they are not legit.
Ad B it’s fine, I appreciate that you’re trying to learn. And it really is a hard thing to describe. You can’t describe how it feels to be a man or a woman without resorting to stereotypes, and that’s true for nonbinary people as well. And since the experience is so different from person to person... well it makes it even harder. The best I can do is using a glass of colored water as a metaphor. So imagine you have an empty glass. Next to it is water with blue dye, and water with pink dye. You can fill it up with a reasonable amount of either pink or blue, you can mix it, you can only partially fill it, you can overfill it, you can leave it empty, etc. You can decorate the glass all you want or put the liquid in another cup, but the liquid stays the same. Just like how no matter what the person looks like or what they do with their body, they will always have the same internal sense of gender. This isn’t a scientific explanation, but honestly it’s late and I can’t be bothered to look up several reputable sources to support some claim. But hopefully this slightly artsy explanation does something for you? Idk
I feel like a lot of them are using the terms “male” and “man” interchangeably, but correct me if I’m wrong…a (biological) male is a human-being born with male genitalia. You can’t choose your biological sex (male/female), but you can choose your gender identity (man/woman/non-binary). Personally, I don’t see why you’d need a different gender in order to express your individuality. I’ve always been a more feminine guy (probably cuz I’m gay lol), but I never hated being called a man. It’s so crazy how our current society places so much focus on how we “identify,” but why does it matter if we are called a “man” or “woman”? They are just words that describe two types of human: one with male genitalia and one with female genitalia. Yes, we tend to perceive men as masculine and women as feminine, but no one said you can’t be a man and present as more feminine and vice versa. I didn’t mean to write an essay, but that’s just how I feel when it comes to gender identity. Sorry if I offended anyone.😅
i think the biggest problem is when you need to apologise for an opinion - the way society has made such a big thing out of just labelling things as either offensive or not is really problematic, so it makes almost anything hard to sort out, explain or question. i truly agree with all the things you've said, but i think that the reason most males/females who feel nonbinary make it a gender thing and feel the need to change their gender to further affirm or express their identity is probably just to clear up the fact that most people do associate specific qualities with a male, and specific qualities with a female. still, i do definitely think that there is too much of a focus on the idea of gender, and i think many attributes or personality traits are misassociated with gender.
Why do you need to identify as gay? Why not just have sex with whoever you want? Why does there need to be a label? Maybe meditate on that for a bit and see if it changes how you feel about trans people.
@@CampyBiscuit because some ppl feel like another gender regardless of their orientation and want to be treated as such. I do think that the 82 gender thing is ridiculous though. Why not just have male, female and other? Also if you’re referring to someone who just identifies as gay because of their orientation, usually that also goes hand in hand with identity and it also helps you find people with the same orientation.
I'm a masculine female and I DO hate being called a woman. But more specifically, because my society is religious & sexist and can't accept masculine women & feminine men. I really think that as long as the society is sexist and can't accept various self-expression that doesn't have to remark "but you're still a woman/man 😉" at the end with gendered expectations implications, as long as the binary are prescribed boxes that has gendered expectations on top of just being physically female/male, there will always be lost androgynes who can't fit the box and feel more belonging in the label "non-binary".
" Being non binary means I have the freedom to wake up and spike my hair and be punk" huh?? who doesn't have that freedom?? Im not trying to be rude I looked this up to understand what non binary is and im more confused. Im genuinely trying to learn.
I think they just meant being able to express themselves in ways that are typically gendered like people only associating certain hairstyles with either being male or female instead of with complete freedom.
As non-binary, I think of it as the belonging of somewhere in between. I am not a man, I don't fit into that. It's a feeling. To make it clearer, if I imagine myself being with some men for a day and I being one more of them it would be ok, but I am not like them, I don't feel like them. Same the other way around. I know everyone is different but I never felt like I fitted in neither of those categories. Even though I look typically "masculine" and use he/him pronouns in my mother tongue, I am still enby (non-binary). Gender assigned at birth, gender identity and gender expression are three different things. Each one of them is an spectrum and that is one of the many things that makes everyone different. Hope this isn't too long and helped somehow😅 It actually helped myself to expres it, so thank you❤
@@nur2277 if non-binary people dress that isn't gender confirming rather a wide expression on how they feel, I understand that. What is unfortunate is that non-binary people call themselves transgender. You can't be both, to be trans you are binary transitioning to binary. What I can't understand is most of trans activism is shadowed by non-binary people and trans people are already a minority and it gets the world confused. Dear non-binary people. You are not trans, you just express differently to your sex. You don't have a male or female brain.
@@alexh6767 Trans and enby people are similar in many ways. We should help one another rather than feel the other is making us less important. I know it may confuse some people (heck my mother is confused!) but that doesn't mean we want to create that confusion. Some non-binary people call themselves trans*non-binary, because they overcome more or less the same struggles as trans people do. Such as changing the way they look, pronouns and some even start hormones, low dose or full dose. They might use the word trans because they also go through a transition. But I'm sure most non-binary people intentions are not to overshadow trans people. I believe I'm going through a transition too, but never would I want to make a trans person feel like I'm stealing their thunder. It's just my opinion.
@@jackcarpenters3759 well you could do that but. It's so easy to make them happy just changing a few words or treating them as they want to be treated. To be respected it's always nice and some times makes your day.
What's going on is they are ramrodding all other men and women into super rigid stereotypical boxes. And then saying, "Look at meeeeee!!!!!" because, like the rest of us, they don't fit with every gender stereotype. They think they've come up with something new, and they stuck a label on it.
It's obvious what gender these people are, but they are changing their gender identity thinking they are challenging the social construct of gender and the traditional roles and norms when in fact they are supporting these definitions by thinking that fashion, makeup and the way you dress is what defines a man or a woman. It's no wonder why there is a lot of confusion around this topic when you never get an intelligent explanation from non-binary people. You can be a woman and have a unique physical expression, strong masculine traits and be sexually attracted to men and womenand still be a woman. You can also be a feminine man and do makeup, it will not change your gender. You can create your own identity and become your authentic self without having to change your gender.
@@artema. yo listen this is the problem with today ppl make these bs names and add sexual at the end to make it a thing and they get backed up by the most bs scientist saying someshit like err yea thats totally real
@@abdianalysis6541 you're confusing sexuality with gender now. when you go beyond middle school biology, like when you're studying medicine of biomedics like me, you learn about the different combinations sex chromosomes can take. sex chromosomes aren't only xx or xy. this is real science and can't be disproven.
My only problem with this video is that they kinda display non-binary folks as people who simply wanna be different or unique or just dress non-gendered. That's really not what it's all about. I liked Feng's way of explaining what non-binary is. It has nothing to do with clothing, makeup or just expression. I loved Feng's explanation.
@A M. male is when you born male or identify and transition to male. Female is when you are born female or identify and transition to female. Non-binary simply means that you identify as neither of the binary genders male and female. Non-binary people transition very differently, both socially and physically, as they adjust their body and name/pronouns to what fits them. This transition is not only about clothing, but about how a enby person feels the need to change
@@tokidoki8035 Well, they are talking about GENDER. Not SEX. Like they said, they are not transitioning. SO... not a bunch of bullshit. That's your limited view on the subject. Maybe you should refrain from ignorance next time you try to throw your opinion around.
@@bamtorii "But I am not a female", then what the fuck are you ? An attack helicopter ? Also, your dad is clearly wrong in this case, you can do whatever the fuck you want in this life, and typically speaking, it is not obligatory for female to wear dresses, nor male should play dolls.
The non-binary people in this vid: "Why can't people just not associate fashion and personalities with genders?" Also them: "I don't dress like men or women, so therefore, I'm neither :))))))" Sidenote: I'm not saying non-binary people don't exist, just that fashion isn't what defines your gender. If you wanna identify as a guy, gal, neither, or even both then you do you!
It’s a tough cookie. Clothing is gendered by society unfortunately, so for trans people (including binary trans and non binary trans), clothing can be very gender affirming or on the flip side for those who experience dysphoria, gender dysphoria inducing.
@JW McCabe If you see a dress that goes by she/her pronoun and has a vagina and a suit has a penis and uses he/him pronouns, maybe you should go fix that...
Fashion is a product of society. Gender binary is a product of society. Products of society are often found entangled with one another. They are trying to produce a fashion which is disentangled from the gender binary (but not of gender). They believe gender is performative, as Judith Butler suggests. This simply means that there should not necessarily be a goal to achieve femininity/masculinity in fashion. What they try to achieve is a composition of behavioural elements ie. Brightness, roundness, curvature, etc. to REFER to aspects of history/beauty/ideology of their creative choosing to compose a product of fashion. Although these references contain entangled fragments of binary gender, they are trying to purify as much of binary influence as possible. We unnecessarily associate the compositional elements (roundness, edginess, etc) with masculinity/femininity. Our perception is tied to binary values. Masculinity/femininity are adjectives, not nouns. We can describe things with them, but they are not things which have properties and features. Nothing relates/refers to masculinity/femininity as they are not things, rather, we prescribe what we observe with masculinity/femininity. A dress with sharp, edgy components is a good example of this. Objectively, it is a product of fashion. If we choose to assign a binary interpretation upon the dress, it becomes convoluted. The dress is typically seen as feminine. The edginess is typically seen as masculine. The binary would call the overall product a 'hodgepodge' of a gender dichotomy. It's both masculine and feminine, which the heteronormative society sees as taboo/strange/uncomfortable. However, it's simply a composition of creative elements, the designer of the dress attempted to compose it with aesthetic features relating to shape and reference to social aesthetics. The art was not created in a binary sandbox, so by interpreting it in a binary sense, you are not understanding the actual meaning the designer embedded the fashion with. They are doing their best to purify a domain (fashion) from the gender binary. If you decide to assign gender to the fashion, it does not imply the fashion is gendered.
How does being a male or female prevent you expressing your individuality? Nothing..This is why it is so hard for me to get these people and their mindset. Especially when they try to pressure us to play along
I'm confused. Can't you be a biological man/woman and just wear/act however you want? I can still refer to you as he/she in conversation for simplicity and clarity but you can wear whatever you want and act however you want. You can be a literal man but not have to act like a conventional man according to traditional roles.
tdb1726 I know it’s confusing the way some of them explained it. There are many men and women who don’t follow societal gender roles but the difference is they feel comfortable identifying as man or female. Those who are non-binary or on the trans spectrum don’t feel comfortable with the pronouns of their biological sex.
Alaina Howard Does that mean you’re non-binary? I’m sorry for asking but I’m struggling with my gender identity and I don’t feel comfortable with the stereotypes expected for my gender either, however, I don’t know if that has to do with gender expression or?
Don't confuse SEX and Gender as the same thing. Sex is biological, while gender is the identification of femininity and masculinity. When you fall in between, some identity as non-binary
I think they didnt really explain it well but I can't explain it either bc im cis lol but i think... just try to imagine explain what does being a girl/boy mean to you to someone???? It would be pretty hard and I don't think anyone could explain it well... and obviously there's a difference between a girl and a boy other than just sex chromosomes and stereotypes... but we can't say exactly what it is... so I guess the same applies to non-binary people? I don't think being non-binary is just wearing both female and male clothes and things like that... they probably just couldn't really explain it well... gender is really confusing
What I am wondering: If being non-binary means you cannot identify with being male/female, because of the societal norms of what it means to be male/female. Aren't you a part of confirming these social norms by fleeing to be non-binary instead of just changing the social norms and saying just because I am biologically male/female doesn't mean I'm this/that? If you categorise yourself, but say you hope the future will be less categorizing, then aren't you a part that it's moving backwards and people having an even tighter idea of gender-categories? I spend a lot of time thinking about what it means being Non-binary these days. I‘d like to hear proper philosophical talks about it. I mean well. I want to understand it and discuss without being disrespectful to anyone.
For people who reject society's archetypes for masculinity and femininity, these people have a pretty stereotypical view of what it means to be a man or a woman.
They dont know what they talk. They and maybe even you will talk bs like these roles where made up by society and culture. But thats so disgusting stupid, that people believe this bs. Culture can have a little impact in a very complex way not to explain in one or two sentences, but men and women have their roles for like million years. Just because we are living really different than 30.000 years ago doesnt mean we are new biology
That's why I don't quite understand the concept of non-binary... while male, I exhibit a number of female-associated affectations (collections, hobbies, etc). But it doesn't mean I don't consider myself male. I most assuredly do. There's a lovely book I read once, called "William's Doll", about a boy who wants (and ultimately receives) a doll to play with. William is not transgender, nor is he non-binary. He simply non-conforming.
I think the fact that 99% of their choice of identity is directly related to their fashion sense says that society failed by falsy associating gender with appearance, and being intolerant towards anyone that may express interest and passion in the other gender's style and beauty concept. we've misgendered objects and trends, not people.
@@Prombl How exactly? I watched this video because I DON'T have a bias, I love making my mind after listening to people carefully, and even in my comment I didn't judge them, but society as a whole. I really didn't assume anything, they were saying it pretty clearly imo. one of them literally said they are non-binary because they can wake up in the morning and spike their hair, which sounds kinda ridiculous to me. I didn't assume that, it was said. they were chosen to represent the non-binary in this video, and they all collectively represented it that way. also, I don't think its by chance that (almost) every non-binary person has a very unique unconventional fashion sense. this choice of identity is very clearly a way to avoid society's shitty expectations placed upon you by your gender. I get it, I just don't think its the right mentality against that.
I definitely recommend you thinking about what it means to be oneself in a society of consumerism. There are many authors, from Foucault to Sossa Rojas (the first was french, the second is Spanish, I think? Not sure) that imply that there is no such thing as a subject prior to their attachments. What it means is: your environment is not a product of your personality, your personality is the product of your environment. In this case: you do not wear the clothes you do because you are you, you are you because of the clothes you were, these items make you who you are and take it to series or music you like, people you see, and stuff. Not trying to give you a history or society lesson, but I hope you can think something out of this.
Its not rejection, its how you feel. So, here is the case. You can be non binary and be straight. So, a man could totally look and act gay and not be gay. why? Because he isn't locked into the male (masculinity) role. It embraces both masculine and feminity through his expression and ideas.
@@AirFire18 They can embrace both their femininity and masculinity through their expression and ideas while accepting their gender. Gender roles, feeling male or female is not just about feeling feminine or masculine. They can still be a female while being masculine. and Visa versa.
The terms male and female is just a way to differentiate the anatomy of the body . They don’t want to be in a box that tells them you are this so you must act ,feel ,look and wear this . But instead of just being free and saying I’m just going to be who I am , they put them self in another box of this is non binary and this is what it is . It’s sort of contradicting of not wanting to identify as anything . But I understand in this society we need those labels to find support and raise awareness so people feel they’re not alone. And that they are apart of the society and not just a outcast and could be excepted .
Labels are so that we can find each other. My grandmother always use to say "There should be something in-between a man and a woman" but lived in a rural town and none of her kids or anyone knew what she meant by it. Now that we have a label and language and internet we can connect with one another and share experiences and realize we aren't alone in that. Labels keep people from being isolated. If the label you were given as "man" or "woman" has always fit you, then you can't know what it is to not have that sense of community around your gender. Why do we have Men's clubs and women's clubs and all these spaces for genders - why can't everyone just be themselves and hang out together? Because our experiences are different and sometimes it is nice to hang around and talk about that. Find me a man or a woman who has not ever labelled themselves as a man or a woman and identified strongly with that label? Why do you think non-binary people don't deserve to know their label and find the same sense of community?
I'm happy you can be yourself! Being yourself is easier said than done though for some people. I tried, I really did try, to just be a cisgender woman but I had anxiety that poked at my looks. The moment I tried on nonbinary, my anxiety went away. Never have I fathomed that my anxiety was deeply rooted in my concept of gender.
@9ts6d 6d85z I think that's the point of the comment, and the reason the vast majority of people, that are not trans-haters (like me) that don't understand the need for pronouns outside of he and she. Most people have interest that are traditionally masculine and traditionally feminine, and that is fine. I for one want to try knitting, which is what society thinks is something grandmas do. That doesn't instantly make me a woman, even though it's a woman dominated hobby. You can still be a woman and love to watch football, a traditionally male dominated hobby. What I see in most of these trans/non-binary videos is that the same people advocating for us to get rid of gender norms are the same people that get gender reassignment surgeries and have their names and pronouns changed to conform to the gender they wish to appear as. This is the perfect example of the phrase "actions speak louder than words." They are saying one thing (Which in this case is getting rid of gender norms) and doing another (actively trying to present themselves as the opposite gender). Doing things like that makes you look foolish. It's like a person saying, I'm really strapped for cash, but you see them in Gucci. You want to feel bad for them, but they're actions make me not believe what's coming from their mouth.
@@badbanana5164 that's actually what I meant, I'd only like to add that i think tak some people can be really non-binary but that would be aiming in not having any masculine or feminine sex traits, at least that's what I heard from someone ( btw I don't know if that sentence is correct, Im not a native English speaker) Regardless of that most of the people who call themselves non binaries are just wanting to make not sticking to gender norms their unique personality trait what's sort of offensive to trans and cis people.
@@xorbyc8149 Okay so we agree. Tone gets lost in translation, I guess. And I agree with your point about making it a personality trait, it seems like they don't have anything else to show which is why I don't like the loud representatives that have in the media. Also it's cool you know two languages.
For me, I’m just uncomfortable when people refer to me by what they think is in my pants. I’d much rather be called a “they” than a he or a she... it’s just more comfortable.
@@burntburgies9801 lmao ok language expert "hey I wonder who lost this water bottle, let me put it in the lost-and-found for them" "omg what a cute baby! what's their name?" "who directed this movie? their dialogue is so funny!"
This!!! Exactly what i think as well, surely its more progressive to say im a woman who can wear and act how i like or im a man who can also act and dress how i like without being tied down to gender stereotypes. By saying im not a man cos i like a frilly shirt you are affirming the idea of gender stereotypes made up years ago. Bowie wore make up and never denied himself being a man, thats more progressive than a man wearing a dress saying he is not a man.
but the concepts of masculinity and femininity are everywhere. they're hard to avoid, we cant pretend that they dont exist because they do affect us and our behaviour. ive seen it happen to me, and i had to do some self reflection to figure our where i got it from. these are just people whove chosen to reject both genders because they dont like either for themselves. it makes sense
I had never heard of non-binary until today. Without trying to sound rude, I'm literally trying to understand all of this but I'm more confused. (edit 10-14-20) I would just like to thank everyone who gave me their time to explain what non binary means to them. We live in rough times and 2020 has been a year I will never forget. I hope and pray that 2021 will bring us all more enjoyment and comfort.
@@Nita-n4d Lol, you know tf you are saying? Non-binary people identify as that for their own acceptance(learning to like themselves) and not for others acceptance which clearly isn't coming from your 9 yo ass. Congrats you've just outplayed yourself
They just feel the need to be different. Usually that's a phase people get over during their childhood. Gender is such a concrete identifier, it's not like sexuality, which can be a spectrum.
You mean that gender is a social construct that changes from decade to decade and between cultures? That's pretty cool. I guess it doesn't matter if I ignore the most common two modern fashions and do my own thing.
@@Laura-Yu That's encouraging! And some modern outfits are very androgynous, right? So what I'm going to do is wear what I want to, and you can wear what you want to. It's really that simple- nothing in my genes or pants is any of your business, or vice versa. That's only important for people I'm dating. I'll also address you by whatever your name is because that's just basic respect for a stranger. I obviously don't expect that in return, but maybe I'm pessimistic!
You can. Being nonbinary goes deeper than your clothes. Something this Tinder video failed to communicate. (Mother of God, why does the most popular video on being nonbinary have to be from a s**tty dating app?)
lol pretty much. why is that nonbinary people dress as the opposite sex they are despite saying they are neither sex? it's so insanely stupid. we rly have grown adults saying they aren't male or female cuz they aren't all that masculine or feminine.
@@rat-wc7wj I didn't say they were. But dressing differently or having different personality traits doesnt mean you arent a gender. You're just a nontraditional male/female. Idk where Jessica came from
I remember saying in 2010, I miss the 90s, now in 2023, I miss 2010. What happened to society? It’s a biological fact, your interests, your desires, your fashion sense, your demeanour and your disposition have absolutely no effect on your biology. There is no such thing as non binary, it’s a figment of imagination. I truly worry that there are clearly not enough real problems for these people so they overthink everything. But that’s what happens when you’re raised by a device instead of a human being.
as someone that is nonbinary (this can mean different things for different people but for me it means agender, which means i don't have a gender) i can see why you'd see it that way honestly. but trust me, that's not what the nonbinary experience is. it's not just about how you want to present yourself, although it may seem that way on the surface. like, i really like having what would be considered a "dude haircut" and presenting more androgynous, but that's not what makes me nonbinary. it's about WHO you are, not how you look. i truly don't feel connected to any gender identity, and believe me, i've tried to be. but that's just not who i am. i literally feel nothing when i think about what my gender is. it's just non-existent for me. what i'm trying to say is, it's not about personality. it's just about how someone connects or doesn't connect to the concept of gender, you know? i know i wrote a lot here, sorry about that haha. but that's the best way that i can explain it. (and i also wanted to note that it's totally not okay to completely understand everything. i totally get why this can be really confusing)
@@dannyspoons Yeah, but do you feel comfortable in your sex characteristics/your female/male body? or are you gender dysphoric? Because nothing other than eg a female body should make you "feel" like a woman, unless you have dysphoria, because that's something you can biologically measure and transitioning helps these people. Nothing makes me feel like a woman or should make me feel like a woman, I just am one because I have a female body lol. The rest is just connecting being a woman or man to some sort of imagery or roles, to a feeling, most don't fully suit. Gender in itself is a pretty sexist construct that only solidifies if you use it as reasoning instead of trying to abolish it, because if gender doesn't exist we can literally be or express ourselves how we want with no correlation to our bodies. The only thing making you a woman or man is just well, having a female/male body. And this shouldn't be considered transphobic, because the reason many transsexuals transition is literally because they want to adjust their body to a womans/men's body. A feeling of belonging to none of the woman or man imagery is quite literally a personality, unless you don't feel that your body with its characteristics belongs to you and wish to have a some sort of "sexless" body with no characteristics of each sex
@@diidilara8475 for me, it's less about how i see my body but how others see it. i personally like my body, but i've always felt uncomfortable with people using the pronouns i was born with or interpreting my gender wrong based on how i look. i never really understood why until i got older and learned more about what nonbinary means. i guess you can think of it this way; a cis person, let's say a cis woman for this example, knows that she's a woman just because that's what feels right. she likes being referred to as a woman and being perceived by others as a woman. and if someone perceived her as a man, then it obviously wouldn't feel right because she knows she's not a man. for me, i don't like being seen as a man or a woman. both of them don't feel right. it really has nothing to do with how you present on the outside, though. it may influence it, sure. but it's not your personality that makes you nonbinary. and i do agree that gender is a sexist construct, which is why i don't care to pick a gender if i feel that one doesn't apply to me. and i'm also not denying that i have a biological sex (i know you didn't accuse me of saying that, i'm just saying this to further explain something) everyone does. but i also acknowledge that biological sex and gender are different, one being reproductive parts and the other being your personal gender identity. about the abolishing gender thing, no one's trying to abolish gender. cis people and binary trans people have the right to be who they are because that's just the morally right thing. gender is still very real and important to a lot of people's identities. lol i don't care what other people's genders are. it's just not something that applies to me personally.
Just asking questions here, if we lived in a nation which was perfectly accepting of effeminate men and masculine women, would we need to have a non-binary identity?
I think life would be a lot easier if we all just greeted rooms of people with "avast ye scurvy lads" Edit: Before you get smart about the gendering of "lad", Google dictionary says that in ye olde British, lad can mean a stable worker *regardless of age or sex*. Something to consider before you start ruining a joke.
But you are quite literally categorizing yourself by identifying as these things... so I dont understand how you can tell people to stop categorizing. This is all so confusing to me.
Omg just please stop being so prejudiced. It's not hard. If it's not a she and not a he, then what are they? That's right! A "they"! Now do you get it? It's people who just don't want to acknowledge the gender of their body. That's all. Not even that hard and "confusing"... Unless you purposefully wanna make it a problem
@@Lexking22 Yeah so what? Can you stop getting hung up about the technicalities of it? You can just think of it as a category then. A category of people who won't acknowledge their body's gender because they feel different in the brain and therefore choose to dress "odd"
Autism is now treated as a spectrum disorder and no matter where you fall on that spectrum, you are diagnosed autistic. Every different variation within that spectrum used to have many different names. Aspergers etc.. It became so difficult naming all the differences they decided to just stick to Autistic. It needs to go the same way with gender issues and just call these people gender confused. Most of them change their minds as they grow up anyway.
"As a nonbinary person I can wear any length shorts I want." Um what? Is there a law I'm unaware of that says you can't? Your problem is with fashion, not gender lol ffs this is a new level of dumb.
Momma Steven Fashion doesn’t express gender. It just expresses that the individual prefers a certain fashion. In the traditional language rules, gender was defined by genital anatomy at birth. You idiots are inventing new definitions and forcing the rest of us to accept those new definitions. Why trade a simple system for gender identification for a more complicated one? To cater to people’s feelings? Your human rights are not violated just because people don’t want to play gender musical chairs with you. Grow the hell up.
Yes there is a law created by this society, calling everyone dumb on the internet doesn't make you look smarter, you say i love you to your mom with that mouth?
a nonbinary person with a male body may like to wear very short shorts and feminine makeup, but their parents can disapprove of the way they wear clothes, thus it's very hard for them to dress like how they want especially in this heteronormative society.
I think that is exactly what this is all about. Our society its divided in two main genders full of expectations, prejudices, and characteristics that we assigned to one, or both of that genders. Non binary is a gender in which this doesn't exist. Because you are not a men o a woman. You are simply you. And you are free of social gender barriers.
Who are you to tell them what they are? These people know who they are and they know themselves, it’s not just about the clothes or expectations. It’s a lot deeper than that.
Why are we all co signing this bullshit man. Its like when a snobby child wants a toy she sees behind the glass and screaming, "buy me that toy now!!!!!" And the parents go "ok ok honey whatever you say" like we are the parents to these delusional people. We are just doing whatever it is they deem so because we dont want them bitching....but the parents who pick up that child and spank them or nose in the corner discipline are teaching the child, just because you want something to be or to happen, doesnt mean it will...and thats what these people need in some way. ..in a loving way. They dont need to be told theyre idiots or name calling but i cannot co sign this bullshit anymore man
I’m failing to understand this. I’ve talked to several people about this and none of them could explain it. If you don’t feel any sexual attraction to any sex then you’re basically asexual. If you’re male (for example) how do you know you don’t FEEL like a female if you haven’t ever been female? I’m genuinely trying to understand this but it just makes no sense. 09.01.22 edit: thanks for the replies everyone, i'm not trying to understand this anymore because it makes me feel like I'm degrading.
Typically feeling more feminine when one is assigned male at birth is tied to identifying more with traditional feminine characteristics and I suppose stereotypes is the right word, and can also come down to gender dysphoria. Often times they will feel as if they were born into the wrong body and feel a distinct disconnect with their birth sex. Truth be told, there is little of a concrete and objective answer that will satisfy all, best I can say is that gender is deeply subjective and determined solely by the individual and their experience and or expression of themselves and their perception of themselves.
Hmm but isn’t that related to hormones? Feeling as if you’re born in the wrong body is basically being transexual I think. The impression I got is that being non-binary isn’t necessarily biology related unlike sexual orientation like gay/lesbian but that’s where I get confused because I don’t get how can you not feel like a female or male if it’s not biology related when these are literally biological sexes. Isn’t that more of a social psychology thing? If it is, how is it related to lgbtq then? Lgbtq is more about SEXUAL minorities, not psychological stereotypes right I kinda agree that the gender can be subjectively chosen but at the same time people can choose to be anything. This wouldn’t be an issue if there were no practical issues like public bathrooms, adoption, etc.
@@AlvaroYamagami I suppose we don't have any other species to compare being non binary with, but then again, we aren't exactly like many other species. We're what's classed as an intelligent species and one of the implications of such is that we often act and experience emotions, ideas, thoughts, abstracts etc that aren't typical within 99% of other taxa. For example most species don't build cars or vote in elections, but we do, which is in my opinion why we've come to the stage of expanding upon understanding and expression of gender identity. There are those among us who do not experience themselves as either male, or female, and that they perhaps don't wish to present themselves or act in gendered ways that would worsen the feeling of disconnect or spring connotations of masculinity or femininity. Non binary indentities to vary however and it is certainly difficult to box them all in, which I personally think is a great thing, as it shows a great progression in our understanding of gender. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we don't have a lot of ground to try and compare non binary identities with nature and other species as we are such a unique species ourselves in many fundamental ways.
@@AlvaroYamagami non binary relates heavily to the LGBTQIA+ as both gender and sexuality are areas of life that have been heavily explored and questioned. As attraction to the same gender or multiple genders became more and more realised within the individual, so did the stigma and social implications and even impacts. The same trend was to be observed with those who identified as the opposite sex and who experienced gender dysphoria. And so as rights were and even are being debated and stripped away for both gender and sexuality, the two do certainly tie in under the umbrella of the LGBTQIA+
@@AlvaroYamagami it's literally just about how you percieve yourself and how you want to be percieved - that's the gap you're missing. So someone who is non-binary or genderqueer might not feel discontent when they look at their naked body in a mirror (i.e the biology of anatomy) but they might feel upset, invalidated or otherwise useless if they are percieved to look like a woman or a man by people in the world. This is because the way they are being perceived outwardly isn't mirroring the way they percieve themselves inwardly. They might also reject their physical anatomy if it doesn't line up with how they percieve themselves in the mind, but it's not strictly necerssary. If you picture yourself in your mind's eye, or a imagine a fake conversation you might have, then you can get a grasp on how you perceive yourself. Is this imagined version of you a man, a woman, both or neither? That's really where the distinction between binary and non-binary gender identity is. If we use the common phrase of "identity" (i.e "I identify as non-binary") then we're talking about how someone relates to a certain topic, opinion or issue, and how they see themselves reflected in the words, ideas or thoughts that they see. In this sense, a non-binary person identifies this way because they witness thoughts, theory, opinion & information about non-binary or otherwise gender non-conforming individual's lives and in turn, recognise that they relate to those experiences, are envious of them or in some other sense connects with the perspective being shared. I hope this helps!
I grew up with Prince, David Bowie, Queen, Linda Perry, Joan Jett, Cyndi Lauper, Adam Ant, Mick Jagger, Grace Jones, Peaches etc. #NoLabelsJustCool I feel like this is a political construct to divide us even more.
Dolly Love I think you literally took the words from my mouth.what you’ve said makes more sense to me than anything I’ve read or hear . Thankyou . I think we should just be x
"non binary is freedom from that whole game" but you dont have to create a new gender identity to wear what you want. Are they saying that drag queens arent men?
@A M. It's their words and how they view themselves. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're trying to force you to use pronouns that make them feel comfortable, however.
@A M. lets look at anatomy and biology here. people are born with either male or female genitalia right? WRONG. some people are intersex, meaning they are biologically not a male or female. if people can be anatomically not male or female then people can also be socially not male or female.
You can challenge socital steriotypes of gender and still be a man or a woman, being non-binary isn't necessary. You can be a woman and feel feminine some days and masculine the next and still be a woman. Seems like non-binary is just a vocalization of challenging societal expectations and that's fine...but you don't have to "float" between genders because you are only reinforcing stereotypes by saying that's why you are non-binary. I don't think I will ever understand the reason one would classify themselves as something different in order to break a classification system, it literally has the opposite effect and honestly just creates confusion on how people should interact with you. If you want to be a man who wears makeup, tighter clothing, speaks with a softer voice....go for it, you can still identify as a man though, the moment you choose to run from that and be non-binary because you don't "fit" into what society sees as a man but also not what society sees as a woman you just foster an attitude toward accepting those stereotypes rather than challenging them.
What if I say I believe I'm a cat. Call me whiskers. Don't assume I'm a guy or girl. I identify as a cat. Also you need to adapt to my mental issues. Multi species bathrooms now
@A M. You are given a sex at birth. From the sex you receive your gender. Some people realize that they arent either gender, so they identify themselves as nonbinary. You arent nonbinary if you like to wear different clothes. Those are called transtrenders. If you want to see a good explanation of nonbinary in this video, listen to Feng.
@A M. The human body is made up of many interconnected parts and several of them can control gender. Sometimes the pituitary gland can be guided into incorrectly producing the wrong hormones, effectively giving you a male brain with a female body or vice versa. That's what being trans is. However, notice that I said there are many body parts that control gender. Sometimes they don't all line up. Sometimes they fluctuate. Nonbinaryness comes from these systems being staggered like that.
@A M. I will split this into multiple points: 1) My scientific evidence: www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17563-z this article has empirical evidence from over 15 clinical studies. This is what I'm going to reference from this point on, and I would be glad to find you some other sources if this isn't enough; however, it is late and I am tired. The studies explain that there is a noticeable difference in grey matter volume ("The first of these studies... showed that the right putamen had a greater GMV in... ...pre-HRT TW than in CM. The second study demonstrated greater GMV in the temporo-parietal junction, the inferior frontal cortex and the insular cortex of the right hemisphere in the TW than in cisgender controls, as well as... volumetric differences of the putamen and the thalamus. The third showed lower regional GMV in the left angular gyrus and the inferior parietal lobule in the transgender group. The fourth study evaluated adolescents and noted lower volume of the cerebellum (bilaterally) and the hypothalamus in transgender girls than in cisgender boys.") In the above example, GMV means Grey Matter Volume, TW means trans women (as in Male-to-female) and CM means Cisgendered Men. Keep in mind that these studies were all conducted on *pre-hormone therapy* trans people, meaning they haven't taken any hormones, yet still have brains that appear more like a cis woman's than a cis man's. 2) This same articles cites a few more studies that argue in the direction of a non-binary way of looking at gender: "All MRI studies in this field to date have suggested that the sex/gender of the brain does not present such well-defined characteristics presented by the genitalia. A recent study showed that this distinction would only be possible if sex/gender differences in brain characteristics were highly dimorphic and if brains were inherently congruent with male or female sex/gender. Although this study noted differences in sex/gender and behaviour, the human brain has a variety of individual characteristics that may each be more masculine or feminine. Consequently, human brains cannot be classified into two distinct categories of 'male brain' versus 'female brain'." In other words, there is not one single "male" or "female" brain, there are groups of traits associated with both types of brain and it is possible to have a combination of them. 3)I would love to explain the definition of gender identity and the diagnostic criteria of gender dysphoria! In gestalt psychology, there are two main ways we process the world: top-down and bottom-up. In top-down processing, the brain takes what it already knows and uses it to assume what its senses are trying to tell it; in bottom-up processing, we take our senses in and only base our perceptions off of that, or at least primarily. The problem is that there's never a moment where we use *just* bottom-up or *just* top-down, we use both. In the context of gender identity and dysphoria, it means that our bottom-up processing looks at what its senses are telling it: "I feel like I am not a girl, I am a boy. I have the primary and secondary sex characteristics of a female human, but that doesn't feel right. Something is wrong." and top-down processing looks at what it's told: "I know from experience that boys wear jeans and t-shirts and they like 'manly' things like camping." Our brain combines these things to create our perception of the world; therefore, this person will feel discomfort about their inherent sexual characteristics and they will want to combat it with societal stereotypes about gender. 4) Hormones. This goes back to the sexual characteristics thing. The entire thing about gender dysphoria is that your body doesn't match your brain. For some people this makes them feel very uncomfortable, even ill or suicidal; the truth is, though, that you don't necessarily have to experience this dysphoria to have a 'mismatched' brain. Gender dysphoria is a mental condition that is only considered for a patient when it impacts their life in a meaningful way. If it doesn't, then some people don't let it bother them and go on with their lives; the problem is that it *does* bother the majority of trans people. Taking testosterone or estrogen makes your body begin to exhibit the secondary sexual characteristics of the other sex, which can greatly help with this feeling of dysphoria. It can make your body *start* to match your brain. If you have any other questions I'd love to answer them for you.
@@protowalker Thanks for the explanation. I havent read your article but it seems like your 2nd article contradicts your 1st. And it doesnt prove anything about being nonbinary, just that you cant categorize brains based on sex because of individual differnces. Most people agree that your sex doesnt determine your brain or personality (we had a feminism movement and everything, men can wear makeup) yet most people are comfortable being labeled based on sex even though theyre not a perfect model of the current norm of masculinity or femininity. Your 3rd point addresses body dysphoria which is something cis people dont feel but that seems to be again based on a binary idea of gender which is based on sex and is different from being nonbinary. So is it uncomfortable with your sex but not that umcomfortabme to be trans? Gender is just a bunch of norms and streotypes associated with sex. The only reason it exists is because of the sex and reproduction thing. Why is it so important to nonbinary people? Im still confused.
I don’t get this, shouldn’t your identity be based on how you actually feel, not your fashion sense or personality? Dysphoria should be the only thing that makes someone want to change their gender identity. Isn’t it that simple?
If what you feel is stifled by traditional expectations of gender based upon sex characteristics, then why should you not reject them and carve out an identity that both rejects, and plays with gender signifiers for your own comfort?
They're going on about how they wanna wear girly and boyish clothes but just because you wear a pink dress doesn't mean your a girl their just colours and that's all they focused on I dont get it.
@@naliacolman5925 No clothes don't make someone anything, they are just fabric. But fashion is a method for a person to communicate something about themselves and their internal identity.
@@asafupps exactly and people aren't gonna make a huge deal if a guy paints his nails or something I'm not sure why they had to make an entire gender out of it
Yeah, as a nonbinary person, this video sucks. I don't blame anyone who watched this and learned nothing. I'm sorry to all the interviewees in this video, but it wasn't informative at all. Every nonbinary experience is different. But for me, look at this way. Imagine living in a small rural town (maybe in a different time period), and being the son of the only baker in town. Your father makes good money baking bread, and is training you to inherit his bakery. Baking is theoretically not a hard job, and you think it should be easy to learn. However, you just suck at it for some reason. Every time you try to make bread for customers, you burn it or mess it up in some way, and you constantly get scolded by customers. Your father might be supportive, and tell you to learn at your own pace. And you know that in the end, you're gonna inherit his bakery no matter how good or bad of a baker you are; and since it's the only bakery in town, people will always buy your bread. But you can't do it. You can't bear being scolded by customers, and feeling like you're bad at what you do. So one day, in your early 20s, you tell your father you're leaving. You can't stand working at the bakery any more, and he should just let someone else inherit it. You go off on your own. For a while, you wander around, and travel between towns. Eventually, you find a crappy job sweeping the floors in a rich person's house. You get underpaid and treated terribly. But you're good at it. You can sweep faster than anyone else could, and you find the work...satisfying. You don't like it, of course, but you feel like you can do the job well, unlike baking. You get praised by your employer from time to time--and though it isn't frequent, you know the days of feeling like a crap worker are over. Conditions at your sweeping job, again, are bad, but maybe they'll get better someday. Maybe your employer will grow more sympathetic, or maybe labor laws will be passed. Can't count on it, but it's possible; more than you could say when trying to become a good baker. That's what it's like to be nonbinary, at least for me. I didn't just dislike being a man. I was bad at it. I couldn't live up to any of the "masculine" gender expectations in this society. I couldn't be competitive, or tough, or dominant. I wasn't emotionally independent; I needed friends to constantly share emotions with and to share them with me. I wanted to be nurturing. I craved physical affection from platonic friends. There were minor things I got flack for as well, such as covering my mouth while eating (I just wanted to be polite). And don't even get me started on "toxic" masculinity. Like it or not, I've gotten so much hostility throughout my life for not having any kind of "manliness." And eventually, I couldn't f**king stand it any more. So I just quit. Being nonbinary is really crappy, but maybe conditions will be better in the future. It's not about fashion for me. I do enjoy wearing feminine clothing, but for me it's a way of telling society, "Hey, I'm not a man. I'm not living up to your stupid gender expectations." Same thing regarding the pronouns I use; it's a way people'll instantly know I'm not a guy. Being a man didn't work for me, and I want to be able to communicate to society that I'm no longer one. But wait, you may say. If everyone who can't live up to gender expectations just quits, won't it reinforce said gender expectations? I don't know. But getting rid of gender expectations will take generations either way, and until then it's unfair to ask those of us who can't live up to them to suffer through it. (Yes, I know. I'm posting this comment everywhere. I'm just pissed at how non-informative this video is.)
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1:45 I disagree that men's and women's sections in clothing shops are dictating what people 'need' to wear. Businesses work by meeting the demands of the consumer. Most people would prefer the clothing traditionally associated with males and females to be in separate sections, purely for ease of navigation. You're free to buy and wear clothes from whichever section you like.
rvic11 People are socialized by their assigned gender to wear the “traditional” style of attire for that assigned gender. If gender norms didn’t exist, the demand for gendered/ “traditional” clothing would not exist.
Yeah this seems to be all about gender expression: I was assigned male but I want to wear lipstick, so I'm gonna call myself nonbinary. That's not how it works.
@A M. It works with gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria affects the way you perceive your body, not your interests specifically. If you transition, your interests might be related to one gender and you might want to disassociate as much as possible. But that doesn't prove nor mean that your interests were socially constructed to one genders' favor and you don't fit that spectrum anymore. This is speaking generally and on a little of my knowledge of gender dysphoria.
@A M. I guess what separates them is the feeling of discomfort or distress. If you just don't associate with your gender but aren't in distress, you aren't dysphoric. Even then, people can claim to be whatever because of this 'gender identity' mess. Being transgender doesn't have anything to do with being dysphoric anyway. Back to the question. I don't know if being non-binary has anything to do with transitioning or is just specifically based on your feelings. But gender is a synonym with sex so I just don't think being Non-binary works at all.
I’m all for ambiguous expression. None of it makes you a different gender though. Personality traits don’t change sex or gender. It’s odd so many people hop onto that narrative.
I'm Non-binary AMAB (Assigned Male at Birth) I think the only one thing you really need to know in order to understand people like us better is that being Non-binary/trans isn't actually about breaking gender norms or going against society for the sake of being "woke". It definitely INVOLVES going against social norms, but we don't break social norms because we WANT to. We dress up the way we do just so that we can feel SANE. As IN-sane as it looks. When Oprah Winfrey interviewed Elliot Page after he transitioned, he talked about having a full blown panic attack after simply being presented with 3 dresses to wear at an afterparty when he was already being forced to present as a woman for the majority of his career. He simply could not take it anymore and had a meltdown. When you have gender dysphoria that severe and you have to live with it for YEARS just to be successful, it can take a serious toll on your mental health. Presenting yourself in a way that feels more authentic to who you actually are (no matter how weird it looks) fixes all of that and gives you not JUST peace, but JOY. We all need that. Now granted, not every gender nonconforming person is going to have dysphoria as severe as Elliot Page. You said it yourself, It IS INDEED possible to dress up however we want and still be happy as our biological sex. That's pretty similar to my own case. I never felt like I needed to have surgery or hormones to feel more at peace being in my own body. But no matter how severe or mild our dysphoria is, we really do feel better when we express ourselves in a way that feels authentic to who we are as people, and that's going be different for everyone.
Yeah see this psychological not physiological. Gender and Sex are two different aspects of the human experience. Words have definitions, go and learn some new ones 🤡
Because they themselves are still confused. I've even watched a lot of RU-vid videos with adults who transgender as children and they speak about what a huge mistake it was and how upset they are. That their parents allowed them to do that, and they wished that they would be their original gender now as adults. It's really sad. I think there's just a lot of confusion. I mean, are any of us still the same person we were when we were 13 no hopefully not we all evolve every single day. Kid's nowadays they focus on the wrong things they confuse themselves. I have a friend who claims he's non binary. And then he says I love it when my mom calls me her favorite daughter. He's a Gay man! It's like o.k. Yeah, you make sense🤦♀️
If youll try to hear me out, i hope this clarifies it a bit. Gender and sex are different. Sex is purly biological but gender is more of a social category. Most of the time, these fit with sex, but it doesnt need to. For example, a male is a biological term while a man is a social term. Theres nothing biological that makes males wear suits or whatever, its the social construct that says that. In simpler terms, gender is a social construct merely based off biology. Im not too great with words though so if youre still confused, search up something like 'debate with truscum xandrothal' the debate is long but it explains what im trying to say here a lot more clearly.
@@starrynight1165 I already know this. Yes, there are two genders: biological sex and social construct and the people in this video are getting the two mixed up thinking they can dress how they want to (which they can), but that has nothing to do w/ their biological sex, so how does their fashion sense make them "non-binary" in terms of their gender (biological sex)?
That’s not how it works. Gender self-determination makes sense because gender is defined by sense of self for the purpose of comfort. Shop prices are for the purpose of business and are best not questioned unless they are unfair
Coming from a non binary person. Clothes don’t make people non binary, activities don’t make people non binary. Wear what you want and do what you want as long as it’s not hurting people. For me being non binary is more just hating being gendered it’s not about what clothes I wear or activities I do or like. Gender identity and gender expression are two different things
Male is ur sex and no one can change their sex. Clothes r gender expression so ur clothing doesn't have to correspond with ur gender identity. Gender identity so gender itself is a biological construct often confused as a social construct that occurs in the anterior hypothalamus. If it was a social construct there would be no need for our brains to evolve this section of the brain it would be a complete waste of energy.
I think "non-binary" means always trying to answer the questions "What makes you a man/ woman?"; "What is feminity and masculinity?". Aren't the labels all social constructs? Aren't we all non-binary?
For a lot of people you are changing the rules mid way through their life. You can't expect people to change their world view just because you're different. That responsibility then rests on you to explain it often and ignore people getting it wrong. You can't expect everyone you meet to change for you.
Its not about that. People are alot more open for changes than you might think. Its just wrong, there is no thing like gender identity. Just repeating it more often doesnt make it become reality
I still don’t get it Can’t u still be and dress however u want without the hassle of the whole pronoun situation? I feel like some things in life such as pronouns were created to just exist yk I don’t think pronouns were ever meant to be taken so seriously. Ik many girls that don’t fit into these gender norms and dress like “guys” and never wear dresses and makeup and whatnot and love football but still want to identify as women. So I don’t understand what the difference is between these girls ik and the people in the video apart from from the fact that the ppl in this video are taking pronouns way too seriously than they should be. Forgive me but I dont think I’ll ever get it.
How you present yourself doesn't dictate whether you are non-binary. Otherwise we'd be calling drag-queens and cross-dressers non-binary. Non-binary is how one perceives themselves internally.
It's about how you feel and how you want to present yourself and be perceived by the world. You don't need to get it, just respect it. Being a girl that presents more masculine or a boy that presents more feminine doesn't have to be associated in any way with your internal gender identity, it's about internal experience and the expression of that experience, the external will just be a result of that.
Yes you can do whatevee you want. These are just confused, unoriginal, attention seeking kids looking for attention, that have never heard about David Bowie. Yes it's fashionable and it will fade away. Like every fad. It was the androgonous fashion in the 80s that kicked it off. Real people that identify as themselves don't need a label. Nor do they look for attention. Real people (not these non binary posers) do what they want, dress how they want and live like they want. Some people call them eccentrics. Others call them free. No one calls them non binary. That's just a sub culture for kids that want to fit in and belong to something.
but it also has to do with pronouns being non binary doesnt mean just wearing whatever u want u can be non binary and have gender dysphoria it has to do with surgeries and more
That’s not happening. No one (not even enbies!) want to ASSIGN someone that gender. I think the best thing to say is if the baby’s female, it’s probably a girl but possibly not, and if it’s male, probably a boy but possibly not.
I keep watching these video to understand their perspective and, maybe I’m just too rational, but it seems illogical to me. What they are talking about is their personality and the things they love. I don’t understand how this is related to gender.
@@gargoylecat2179 I care about what's true. Not what's brave. Bravery does not change truth. The truth being that there are only two genders. You can't be a gender that doesn't exist because the gender you claim you are has to exist in order for you to be that gender
@¡ume'sden! Society allows it. You can claim to be whatever made up gender you want to be. Society allows you to do that. But Society has the right to point out the fact that the gender they claim to be is not a real gender.
I honestly couldn't care less about someone's gender. I don't know why it's such a big deal these days. They might have a personality you could get along with. I love everyone lol
It's because dealing with these people can be hard. Their existence alone creates cognitive dissonance, and they often don't take kindly to people "misgendering" them(which I can understand on some level, given, how personal it is for them), or arguing against their logic, no matter how civil, friendly and tolerant you are with them. It's just that... it's getting irrational.
@@Lilly-hh9es What about people born with neither, since you will use the chromosomes arguement, theres XXX, intersex people were born with different body parts than you're gender roles want you to think
Its kinda sad how short hair on girls or guys wearing makeup is now stereotyped as gay. It bothers me everytime my brother or mother call a random girl with short hair a lesbian. Like dont just immediately assume that.
@@owl9130 of course "Einstein" but we are not talking about TV, movies or music celebrities we are talking about average men, down to earth men, mortal men, everyday men, most of us don't even know any of those "star" guys so why even bother including them in our mortal conversations?
@@owlofathena1247 I don't know how someone's gender identity (even if it's malefemalealien) bothers you, grow up. closed minded people (including you in case you don't realize that) should be laughed at.
Edith Fiore wrote a whole book on how she treated people like this as a psychologist; it's called, "spirit possession." All she did was tell the deceased spirit to leave the "physical human" alone, and her client, soon afterwards, identified as the sex as what he or she was born with at birth. The book is fascinating and called, "The Unquiet Dead." The high suicide and depression rates of non-heterosexual people says it all, which should tell a person that being non-binary, LGBQT, is not exactly a healthy lifestyle according to statistical records. In the book, her clients explain that they often got "spirit possessed" in hospitals when undergoing surgeries. Every school should have Edith Fiore's book in their library as it would be helpful to many "confused" people. Real "Christians, Buddhists, or Hindus" don't usually go outside the heterosexual lifestyle because prayers protect people from "evil, deceased spirits." We all can get spirit possessed when overly angry, depressed, unforgiving, or whatever; however, when we pray about the situation, we're often led to what to do or what thoughts to tell ourselves to get over our negative emotional states. To me, it I met any of the above people in person and they told me these things, my first instinct would want to be, "run, get away from this person as fast as I can, something is seriously wrong with them." The people in the video sound like they think they are so "right," and everyone around them should just change because they said so. That is not the real world and I only wonder what future employers would think if they heard this kind of talk from a potential employee. If a person is "confused" about what is "between their legs" and what his/her feelings are about it, what other bigger things in life is she/he confused about and how are they going to stay focused enough to just do their job and not pester everyone around them about the use of "their preferred pronouns."
ah yes we are definitely helping the "you’re making up genders" argument when everyone here has a different idea of non-binary especially when non-binary basically means fashion sense to them
unfortunately gotta agree, this is the worst way to explain it, and I have no clue if it's the editing and the format's fault or them being bad at expressing it but it's the most cookie-cutter and confusing way I've heard be explained-- and _I'm_ nonbinary
Not a good one, bro. I identify as center fielder for the NY Yankees who plays guitar for whoever is the world's #1 band these days. Now THAT comes with some perks! .
I'm always gonna respect everyone's pronouns. It doesn't effect me how anyone identifies. However as someone who's trying to be more educated, this just made me even more confused tbh😂😂
Most of this comment section seems to have ignored the philosophy, and a lot of people seem fixated on the changing clothes. There’s also the using of inaccurate terms/using terms interchangeably which I think is super confusing people, because a lot of these basic premises I’ve read are wrong. I think the core of the confusion relates to people not understanding how/why gender norms/expectations are a social construct, along with gender itself. Personally after watching the video, I guess I can feel valid identifying as Non-binary because it’s been a developing idea in my mind for the past few years. For all my life, I’ve identified as a cisgender man or for the laymen, “a normal guy.” ⭐️I’d like to share my experience and understanding of this so maybe all y’all who are confused can understand too.⭐️ I feels like we have to be careful with our terms here because this is the part that people get confused at. Cisgender means identifying with the gender normative to your sex. There exist the two binary sexes (male and female) and a range of intersex sexes and chromosomal configurations, just called “intersex.” Biological sex is a consequence of evolution on Earth. There ALSO exists a binary gender system. Man and woman. I want you to think of gender as a role/act. A way of behaving subconsciously. The typical trend for most of humanity has been humans born biologically male to identity with being a “boy/man” and humans born biologically female to identify with being a “girl/woman.” If you’re confused, ask yourself, “what is masculinity?” And “what is femininity?” They’re really just recurring behaviors seen in society, traced all the way back to the first human tribes. Gender is a result of groups of people/societies, which IS also a result of evolution since binary gender is simply an expression of binary sex (ex: “men are providers and leaders of the family” (like many mammals) or “women are the caretakers and followers in the family”(like many mammals). Being a man or a woman comes from tradition. Different cultures have different conscious and subconscious expectations for their male and female parts, and thus you have binary gender: the expression of that. Man and Woman. Gender is a social construct because a two year old being told biological/male-he is a boy/little-man, the tot doesn’t really have a choice in questioning does he? Ans how could he question it when it’s reinforced everywhere he goes in the form of norms and expectations. These are the expectations/norms/behaviors men and women expect from themselves and from the opposite sex. The specific examples vary form culture to culture and generation to generation but the think of it as the still- existing, old school, conservative philosophy where the problems don’t come from what you should do, but more so form what you SHOULDN’T do. Artificial limitations and privileges. “Girls should be well behaved; boys are expected to act out” (why are more passes being given to boys for bad behavior, but some people act like we’re still in the 17th century enforcing “lady-like behavior”) “Assertive women are unfeminine and are "bossy," "bitches”” (but in men, assertion is usually a desired quality) “Women are expected to cover up because it’s distracting to men” (which puts the responsibility on the women, rather than men for their own behavior) “Boys shouldn’t wear dresses.” (Cause it’s “gay”? Who cares, unless you’re bothered by a deviation in your worldview) “Boys shouldn’t play with dolls.” (Cause it’s feminine? Who cares? Nurturing can make boys more empathetic) “Men are too impersonal and not emotionally apt to take on tasks "better done by women"” (cause they have to “be a man” and “not show weakness”) Those are just six examples but we experience the social construct in different places: - “men’s” clothes vs “woman’s” clothes in stores (not male and female clothes) - Advertising and branding to men and woman (it’s a meme at this point lol) - “Boy toys” and “girl toys” at McDonalds - Movies involving a battle of the sexes or a joining of them We grow up with all of this, so it’s normal to us. We have a general idea of what “women” and more like and what “men” are like. Now this isn’t to say that girls can’t do motocross and boys can’t do ballet. I’m actually a glad few commenters have pointed that out. And no, it doesn’t mean that girl or boy is non-binary. That’s the case because they choose to keep that identity, while expanding past the stereotypes and social norms associated with their gender. This is proof that society is starting to notice that gender is a construct and that the boxes that we categorize our male and female counterparts in are not fixed in tradition. The LBGTQ+ movement (at its core) is an acknowledgment of the social construct that is gender and letting people be whoever they really are in life and not feel ashamed for being different or not going with flow their society expects from them. ⭐️This is why gender is on a spectrum and there can be infinite genders. To be non binary means not playing the game of life with two options. Binary gender gives just two roles/ways of behaving that have been reused by every culture since humanity began. Many people share the same philosophy of how they want to present themselves to the world, and man and woman are viable experiences and many people are ok with that. That’s perfectly fine. However, while I believe in the science of biological classification, I also believe in accepting people’s experiences and self image. If the pieces don’t fit, you don’t have to play with them. Hope that clear it up?
I've spent a lot of time googling and researching this subject trying educate myself so I can better understand and be more respectful of the non-binary community, but it's very confusing and seems they are relating gender to fashion and/or their sexual orientation. We are ALL born male or female and just because you feel either more feminine or more masculine doesn't change that. I respect EVERYONES sexual orientation, identity etc., but can we make this less confusing?
The way I see it is people like this just choose to be confusing and make things more difficult thatn it should be. Im a firm believer that whatever is on your birth certificate is who are mainly.
What if i describing someone and I don't know much about them except for what they look like? Like how would I describe one these people to the police, do we just leave that part out of the description? We'll so and so looked like a man so I assume it was a man, but I suppose to make that assumption I'm being insensitive?? Crazy. And you cannot love whomever you want to love, at least you can't have sexual relations with just anybody, not you are related or a pedophile, or hell someone into bestiality! You can't even wear what you want, you can't for example go walking down the street buck naked. I think mainly it's just a way of someone trying to be different , when they are already a unique person, regardless of gender. As Mr. Roger's said, "There's no one in the world exactly like you." Embrace what makes you YOU without focusing so much on gender. It's only a part of who you are as a person. Just because you have a hard time identifying with super macho males doesn't make you any less a male. There are what I call "sensitive" men, most are just fine with that. I don't identify with many female stereotypes but I'm still a female. Don't assume that just because someone is off put by all this that they are cold uncaring people. They are just confused! The world is complicated enough as it is. Why make it more so?
I would sort of agree but I don't think that it works in our current society. People identify as things because currently identity is something people strongly associate with, men like being men and have social roles tied to being a man and vice versa. If you don't fit in to these and don't feel comfortable being alongside these social groups that we have, male and female, then you're non-binary. It changes what you feel about yourself and, in an accepting society, what others see you as. It's to get out of what is expected of men and women in the same way that trans men or women do not feel comfortable with the social points of being what they were assigned at birth. To conclude, being non-binary is an expression of being able to be what you want without the ties to our current understanding of biology and social order, especially if you are made uncomfortable or don't identify with that social order.
@@Inressa Thanks for the reply. Yes, I think I understand what you are saying but it's just very confusing, especially to the older generations, even me, I'm a Gen. X-er and we just didn't deal with this at all growing up. People who were gay were just starting to come out and I'm behind gay pride and all that, but this just seems like some kind of trend. Maybe I'm wrong . We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out. Interesting topic. I will try hard not to be judgemental about this section of our society when I come across it, it seems really common due to the media going on about it all of the time but I don't think it really is as common as it seems. I've never met any of these people who identify as non binary, maybe if I met someone who identifies with this I will understand. We just fear what we do not understand , I think.
@@anastasiamurawski6179 Yeah it is very new, even among the trans community identifying as non-binary is rare. I think it's a good thing to be able to express yourself differently and to acknowledge your differences from others and it's something I try to embrace with other people. The best thing to do is to be accepting and understanding of these different perspectives even if they're weird or unconventional because usually they provide some insight into things we don't typically acknowledge if we don't deviate from the norm, like our mental states or gender identity.
This takes “If you can’t convince them, confuse them” to a whole new level. For someone who claims to have no gender, they know all about what male and female gender roles are while how they are free from all that.
I look at these comments and it breaks my heart how many people are hating on these people. Even if you don't approve it and even if you don't understand it, are they hurting you in any way? Can't you live and let live people the way it makes them happy, when they're really not harming anyone? Yes, I don't understand their feelings so far, that's why I am here educating myself, but I do understand that nobody likes to be sh*t on and that you have absolutely no right to do this. All you are is having a phobia against non binary people. And guess what? While they aren't hurting you, you are hurting them.
Denying the biological basis of womanhood does cause harm. Men co-opting womanhood as a fashion choice, a personality type or a "feeling" is harmful to women. It actually erases the lived experience of women and essentially nullifies women's rights and sex-specific protections which are crucial to victims of male violence. Gender critical feminists have been raising the alarm on this for years. I have compassion for all of these people and I believe they should live exactly how they wish, free from prejudice and discrimination. But gender ideology needs to be open to criticism. It's just hard now because they have wrapped up their sense of self in this ideology so it becomes emotive and personal. But yeah some comments here are just mean spirited and probably an excuse to be homophobic.
Saying the truth to someone does not mean hate, unless you are a sjw, if yes then everyone who disagrees with you is a homophobic, sexist, racist, Trump supporter, and Hitler’s friend
Like what is someone supposed to say? I find it more offensive if someone had called him a girl or something. Like you can be a man and like girly things? It just seem like self hatred to me
