5 of 5 Shimano CUES Compatibility - Linkglide M5100 U6000 MTB 11 Speed

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Mixing Shimano Deore and Shimano CUES? With varius results, CUES U6000 and Deore M5100 11 speed mixed together #Shimano #hybrid #cues. Plus a quick side-by-side of the two cassettes with interesting results.
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00:00 Intro
00:26 M5100 vs U6000
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01:53 TEST 1: All CUES + M5100 cassette
03:03 Cassettes comparison
04:00 Thicker cogs?
05:18 Other CUES details
06:18 CUES shifter and derailleur
06:56 TEST 2: M5100 Shifter and CUES
08:08 TEST 3: CUES cassette with M5100
09:46 What works? Rcommendation
11:08 Conclusions
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@Jacob99174 3 месяца назад

What’s the popular phrase? “I’m simple, I see a new LoveMTB video, I click” Love your content

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Thanks Tim😊

@detmer87 Месяц назад

@@LoveMTBI just have upgraded my ebike from Alvio to Cues 9 speed (full cues package). Shifting is awesome but i'm not happy with the rear derailleur! (Need clutch for chain retention) Do you know if the Shimano CUES U6000 rear derailleur works with cues 9 speed?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

@@detmer87 Yes it will work just fine.

@detmer87 Месяц назад

@@LoveMTB Well it didn't. Tried it today. Third gear of the shifter already pushes the derailleur to the smallest sprocket from the cassette....

@chubscoi 3 месяца назад

Finally! A video about it! Thank youu ❤❤

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

No problem 😊

@IsraelMagalit 3 месяца назад

Great video. Thanks for taking the the time and effort to do this.

@joshpearson2529 3 месяца назад

I purchased the complete Cues U8000 1x11 Groupset after watching your previous videos. I’ve done about 250 miles on it now and I’m very happy with it. Great video as always 🤙

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Great to hear!

@johnq7731 3 месяца назад

always love your content super informative

@lewf5685 2 месяца назад

Wow! You saved me! I was going to just switch the cassette and crank set but now your video has convinced me to just go with the whole CUES setup! Thanks!

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Let us know how you like it!

@MrRicardoax01 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the links, to your videos, in the description area. I can now catch up the Shimano Cues system.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Have fun!🤘

@TheMozerfok 3 месяца назад

Was waiting for this! Can't wait for the 9 speed check

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

If I get my habds on it sure

@keven-matthewlarrivee-font2678 3 месяца назад

Thanks for all the work that went into this video! Personally rocking a M5100 cassette and derailleur with XT shifter and chain (better surface coating than the SLX/105 chain) along with a SLX crank.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Good choice!

@eyfk 3 месяца назад

Great work, thanks for the important information!

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Glad it was helpful!

@marnig9185 3 месяца назад

For my heavy overland packing bike 170kg (no e-bike),im on U6000-10 11-48t and 32T,it's a dream,It's simple and on a waxed chain perfect for chilled week long rides from town to town.❤ from Germany;)

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing! Yeah that's the perfect application for this, just keep an eye on that CHAIN!😏

@ruib991 3 месяца назад

I really love watching your videos.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Glad you like them Alexandre!

@robertmcfadyen9156 Месяц назад

I did nine different tests between these two platforms three months ago . A deeper exploration than you covered . I also ran the Connex 11s0 chains in two later tests . We had a few sets and conducted a group ride to get outcomes more quickly . Four findings per riding session .

@Ruben.C.C. 3 месяца назад

Felicidades por el vídeo.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

De nada

@ReallyBigBug 5 дней назад

About cog thickness: check middle rings, hg really is thinner. Same thickness is only on last 3 (or even 1, depends) rings.

@brianwilliam6288 2 месяца назад

I am using the shimano cues crank, shimano deore m5100 shifter and deraillure, and sunshine 11s cassette, works like a charm!

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Great it’s supposed to work like that🤘

@slavoslavik4353 Месяц назад

Very good review, and I wanted to see it. Thanks

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Thanks for watching!

@denis_roy_7 2 месяца назад

Merci!

@kubagbs4545 3 месяца назад

Thanks

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Welcome

@zubayrbhyat8077 3 месяца назад

Very informative! I don't think I'm going CUES after this but will likely have to go XT or SLX given my M5100 setup (Derailleur and shifter). Currently using a XT 11-46 11-speed cassette. It works like a dream with M5100.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

They are both good choices. Shimano 12 speed needs micro spline freehub and you can reuse your M5100 shifter. CUES installs on the freehub you use now and it could be cheaper. I would personally go with first choice but make sure you use a Shimano chain

@zubayrbhyat8077 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB I'm using a KMC EL 11-speed chain with an Ali Racing 34T chainring. It's sort of a midrange setup that I"ve got running with some high end stuff. Durability is a big thing for me.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@zubayrbhyat8077 Durability = CUES...if you were to listen to Shimano

@DailyBag 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this . 💯 . I can mix my M5100 Rd to a Cues Cassette

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

No problem 👍

@adammoonface 3 месяца назад

Another really interesting video! I've not really seen Cues "out in the wild" so far, only on AliExpress. Have been tempted by the 9 speed varient for my retro, but not pulled the trigger yet. I do have a bit of a hybrid set up on a recent Marino hardtail build that's working really well though. Microshift Advent X G104 11-48 10 speed cassette (420g!) and Advent X shifter, but with the Deore M5100 derailleur! It have proven to be a really low cost, light weight and robust solution so far. Btw, I am waiting in anticipation for your next ZTTO wheel update 👀

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

That's a nice setup! ZTTO wheels unfortunately had to let them go with one of the bikes kids outgrew this winter...

@adammoonface 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB The DDR390 wheelset you posted a video on last month? That's a shame. Was looking forward to your thoughts on them. They look really solid for the money

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@adammoonface they really do

@OtterMTBtech 3 месяца назад

Hey 👋 good video. The sun race cassette doesn’t work either. I have the short cage link glide rear mech stretched out on a 11-48 cassette. Works fine. Sram chains work fine on it too

@sflorin123 3 месяца назад

Im using slx m7000 casette, ct m8000 rear derailleur, xt m8000 shifter and Cues u6000 42T crankset, with xt chain. Works wonderfull

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Yes nice setup!

@bikdav 3 месяца назад

I’m using the CUES 10 speed cassette with a Deore 10 speed (rd-4120) rear derailleur and Deore shifter (10 speed ‘dynasys’). And I’m using an 11 speed SRAM chain. Evidently, I didn’t have to do a lot of fiddling and tweaking to get it to work well.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Interesting setup!

@JonathanvanZuijlekom 3 месяца назад

I use a Deore RD-M5130-GS derailleur with XT SL-M8130-R11 shifter, CS-LG400-10 cassette and CN-LG500 chain to create a frankenstein 10-speed LinkGlide setup with the crisp shifter in of the XT shifter. Works flawlessly!

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

oh yeah, it would work just fine due to the equal spacing of the cassette cogs, you just eliminate/ limit one shift with the limit screws😉

@chad5562 3 месяца назад

I'm using the Cues LG400 10 with an M820 shifter, RD-5120 derailleur, kmc gold chain

@rafailloparev2070 Месяц назад

@@chad5562 11-43 cassette?

@gothicmonk 3 месяца назад

So close! With RD-M5100 and CUES cassette, use SL-M4100-IR which pulls more cable! I use CS-LG300-9 11-41 for narrower chainline, as well as CS-LG400-10 11-48. CS-LG700-11 for alu spider. Is only first gear on Deore 11 thicker? Rest should be 1.6mm. A feeler gauge will show this without disassembly. Thank you for your platform and these videos which include details that are missing from marketing info. Drivetrain durability is a huge issue for MTB.

@marcinjangoasiewicz5284 Месяц назад

Kaseta 10s 11~48t CUES z przerzutką i manetką deore m4100 da się tak ustawić że w miarę płynnie pracuje ,praca z szybszych na wolniejsze biegi bez problemu. Z wolniejszych na szybsze niestety z odczuwalnym opóźnieniem, chyba nawet dłuższym niż Shimano przewidziało, Ale do przeżycia. Testy na ramie GT Agresor w rowerze Córki. Córka jest bardzo zadowolona ze zmiany napędu. Z przodu zębatka owalna 36t, koła 26" x 2,25". Ja osobiście uważam że kaseta jest super i sprawuje się naprawdę dobrze.Gorszy problem je z 11~50 11S. I tego bez zmiany na pełny CUES nie da się sensownie ustawić, choć poświeciłem około pięciu godzin na dostrojenie. Pozdrawiam

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Dziękujemy za udostępnienie! Dobrze wiedzieć, że 10-tki sprawdzają się lepiej w miksowaniu i dopasowywaniu.

@chinabicycle 3 месяца назад

you read my mind , I wanted to do the same thing only with other Chinese cassettes like Ztto Meroka Sunshine

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Yeah I have that gift...😇

@greensleeves8095 3 месяца назад

This is a great video topic! I'm sure many of us wondered if Shimano's 11 speed group sets were exchangeable. It's hard enough trying to find information through google and what not since googles search algorithms are absolute crud now. So this video definitely helps out. Do you mind going over Cues 2X systems, especially testing out the 2 by with the 50 tooth cassette? I think that might be quite helpful.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Great point! F do not have it now but I’m sure I’ll do that test when CUES road homes out

@VicharB 17 дней назад

Ordered upgrades for my Mongoose Switchback Sport 2019 with Shimano Cues U6000 goupset (6 pcs 10-speed), along with Shimano's MT200 hydraulic brakes set (F+R) and SR Suntour XCR32 RLR Air suspension fork. Hoping with these upgrades I am good for another 3+ years. I am not at extreme ends, rather cross country with some mounting. All these upgrades cost me less than USD350 + another ~USD75 or so for service.

@LoveMTB 17 дней назад

Crazy good pricing! Let us know how the upgrade turned out

@eBikerHowie 3 месяца назад

I did exactly the same tests. Came to the same conclusions. What I found most interesting, was to start hot waxing my chain, to increase component life span. 2600 miles this year and still same components with no measurable wear. Amazing.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Yup, you an see the chain still full of wax in my installation video. Caveat: wax does not protect the chain that well in winter, you can't see that well in this vide but my LG chain already hs rust spots on it 🤔🤔

@JeffWagen 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB speaking of chains, i live near the coast an my deore chains develop rust even waxing, i was thinking on getting an XT chain next time, do you think It would be more resistant to corrosion? Thanks!

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@JeffWagen XT not really, XTR yes. But the cost is a LOT more...

@JeffWagen 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB thanks, I think I will let It rust then lol, its just cosmetic, but I like the looks of a clean drivetrain, but for my case I don't think it's worth the extra money.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@JeffWagen SAme here, I can change it spring and fall if I have to

@_Zane__ 3 месяца назад

I put cues 10x on my winter commute bike, it's been pretty solid. I definitely feel like it's missing a couple cogs.. "too hard... shift... ugh too easy " I also put an 11x cues on an old 26" downhill setup I am working on, it worked fine before I decided to disassemble my fork 😂

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

😂

@mytoyota80 3 месяца назад

Wow nice try. Thanks for showing us👌

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Welcome 😊

@robertmcfadyen9156 Месяц назад

Never made the mistake at 5:30 as I had technical sheets already and planned for the differences beforehand .

@minnesotasteve 3 месяца назад

Just yesterday I put the M5130 linkglide drivetrain on my emtb replacing a 9 speed alivio. I don’t know how the deore is different from the cues, it seems well made and works well. Waiting for the snow to clear so I can give it a try on the trails.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

It's done a bit better than CUES that's all. Enjoy!

@kisilvan 3 месяца назад

That's a shame with the 5100 derailleur and linkglide casette as it would have been the option I would have chosen for cassette replacement. Thanks for doing that.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

You and many others, I know.

@robertmcfadyen9156 Месяц назад

Cues for pedalecs / e- bikes and HG for racing and non - powered bicycles .

@Yoda-em5mt 2 месяца назад

I just put the linkglide 10 spd cassette 11 48 on my bike today i,m running it as a 9 spd minus the 11 t must use 12 t lock ring and some spacers its a bit of a frankinstien ha ha. 9 spd xtr shifter 9spd xt mid cage deraileur sram 11 pd chain and a custom der hanger 15mm longer and 5mm behind axle and it works perfect it down shifts under load really smoothly but the delay in up shifts is noticeable comming from hg500 cassette so for winning sprints its a tiny bit slower. I,m not an e biker but do put out serious torq have stripped a few rear hubs and do lots and lots km all single track lots of tech climbing. The quality is not super high and sure the cassette may last longer but the chain probly wont having narrower side plates it has to wear quicker than 9spd time will tell . Thanks for you info .

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing your Frankenstein setup!🙃

@doncrescas 3 месяца назад

I was waiting for this video! I was just eyeing how incredibly cheap m5100/6100 components are on AliExpress and was wondering whether it was worth going for CUES. I can see it's not for me because I currently have 4 bikes all using m5100/6100 rear mech in different configurations (10,11,12 speeds) plus one still running an m7000. All work very well using a range of cassettes (from generic chinese to sunrace to 7100) when paired with the correct shifter. And all the while having to keep only one model of spare mech on hand that will work for all of them, that can be had for about 30 USD. I already have 3 spares in storage but the temptation to get another is high 😂.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

I hear you I’m all about standardizing my “fleet”😎

@gothicmonk 3 месяца назад

SL-M4100-IR (10 speed DYNA-SYS with EV mount, easy swap) works on CS-LG400-10 11-48 or CS-LG300-9 11-41 with RD-M5100 rear. RD-M5100 has a higher ratio, SL-M4100 has more pull. Together they get close enough to cues, it works well for me.

@loft4me 3 месяца назад

The clunking is tolerable, as long as it lands dead center on each cog when shifting to the smaller cogs. Speed of the shift and centering that does not require feathering apart from the initial fine tuning would be the important factors for me. When I watch your videos, I am confident that I will always see an unbiased and thoughtful analyse of parts. Thank you.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

You're welcome!

@tomasangelomena6866 3 месяца назад

The easiest hack to compare cassette spacing is just face them down both in a flat surface, side by side with smaller cogs facing down without lockring. You can tell outright if they are identical.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Great test! This is a subtle difference, not that easy to notice

@TheDavidnico2010 3 месяца назад

First, thank you very much for the video, finally someone mixing the components, I have an m5100 and when I need to change something I think about this compatibility... Second, at the end of the video you talked about the chain, why didn't you change the chain along with the k7? Isn't Shimano's magic in the K7 and chain set?

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

No worries. Chain is absolutely vanilla 11 speed, cassette is built differently and shifter/ derailleur have a different pull ratio. That’s it!

@45graham45 3 месяца назад

You said the Cues cassette is a different width to the 5100. Did you measure it? What was the difference in cassette width?

@azg2341 3 месяца назад

С прошлого лета езжу на кассете lg400-11, шифтере u6000 и переключателе m6100. Всё работает отлично. Сначала пытался установить только кассету, шифтер стоял m8000 - результат был аналогичен вашему. Пришлось докупить шифтер u6000. Один из мтб-видеоблоггеров в моей стране проводил такой тест: он пытался поцарапать малую звезду кассеты m5100 малой звездой cues, потом наоборот. Судя по этому тесту, у кассеты cues более твёрдый металл.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Ой, ок, вот откуда рекомендация! Царапая одно о другое. Счастливых дорог! :)

@000KESH000 3 месяца назад

Я правильно тебя понял, что с кассетой CUES надо обязательно задний переключатель тоже CUES, а манетка можно оставить 8000 хт??? Вес конечно почти в 2 раза самой кассеты от хт ….

@azg2341 3 месяца назад

@@000KESH000 наоборот. С кассетой куес нужно манетка куес. А переключатель можно любой, деор м5100 например.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@000KESH000 Не совсем, я бы рекомендовал использовать кассету CUES, манетку и переключатель скоростей.

@marlonmiranda9360 3 месяца назад

i use a 9speed cues shifter and rd on a hg201 9speed cassette. its usable.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing! So similar to my findings on 11 speed

@claudiomunoz663 3 месяца назад

¿Entonces también sería compatible con Sora?

@andrymezencev4279 Месяц назад

Let me explain a little. All cues system is based on the Shimano 10 speed HG system. The distance between the centers of the stars of cassettes cues 9, 10, 11 is the same as on a 10-speed hg. The choice of shifter was initially wrong. In addition to cues, only the m4100, m6000, m780 shifter will work on cues casste. m5100 don't work

@jurekhusky921 2 месяца назад

I have tried the following items with the Linkglide system: RD-M5130 GS, SL-M5130, CS-LG600-10 did not work smoothly enough for me. I also checked RD-M8000 SGS, still the same. I also tried Ltwoo A10 SGS and it ran smoother than Shimano :)

@TomaszChrapek 2 месяца назад

great video! What about Linkglide cassette + shifter paired with M5100 derailleur (non-linkglide)?

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Did not try that combo…

@andrzejx2139 3 месяца назад

So can I have LG crankset in the front and full HG in the back (cassete, derailleur, shifters) ?

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

yes 💯

@pwiles1968 2 месяца назад

Have you tries the Linkglide system but with a Hyperglide Derailleur, I was thinking of going LinkGlide but have a good SLX 12 speed derailleur currently, so short term at least would be good if i could keep that

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Different pull ratio it might work ok but have not tried it

@watertankhikes 3 месяца назад

Thanks for confirming that the M5100 cassette, paired with a M8000 shifter, and either a M5100, M7100, or M8100 derailleur is the way to go. (For me, at least.) And I won't even consider CUES, due to the weight, cheaper quality, and greater cost.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

No problem 👍 And no need for the 6-7-8100 derailleur, they are pretty much the same as M5100. I would use an 11 speed XT shifter with it though, M8000

@watertankhikes 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB I do like the sealed bearing jockey wheels on the M8100 derailleur, though. So much, in fact that I usually retrofit new M5100's with the XT jockey wheels. Smoother with less lateral play.

@garrettowens6314 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB Thanks a ton for doing all this testing. Just to confirm above... you are saying the M5100 derailleur is on par with the 6-7-8100 derailleurs? Optimal cost setup for Linkglide 11spd would be M5100 cassette, M8000 shifter, M5100 derailleur?

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@garrettowens6314 Not sure I understand you cuestion Garrett. You want Linkglide/ CUES or Deore M5100?

@audiowaves7903 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB Yup, three of my Specialized builds are M5100 cassettes and derailleurs paired with M8000 XT shifters. Flawless performance and bombproof reliability.

@Silkl4sh 3 месяца назад

So as of today we have 3 systems. Shimano at it's finest to make things harder. Quite frankly I'm happy I switched to SRAM cause my life got simpler. 1. Shimano ESSA - (cheap 1x8 released ytd) - old 1:2 SIS 2. Dyna-Sys - HG+ drivetrain 12speed and legacy 10/11spd 1:1 3. Cues - something close to 1:1 but not exactly. They did what sram f..d up with their 10spd drivetrains. Shimano does not innovate anymore, all they do is to take care for their patents and they catch up SRAM when forced.

@omarsherief8453 Месяц назад

I have a question. If i put the cues cassette on a m8100 rd, combined with m8000 shifter. Will it work properly or it'll be my biggest nightmare?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Simple answer is no, not worth it for the price.

@kamilszulc3638 Месяц назад

Do you know if that linkglide cassette would fit on QR 135mm free hub?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Yes 💯

@PanaehaliTut 3 месяца назад

There's a simple scratch test. Try scratching CUES cassette with Deore and vice versa. If CUES has harder metal, it should have no problem scratching deore.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

I'll let you do that😇

@PanaehaliTut 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB I did that already. And cues scrathes deore easily. So its not all marketing. Also shifting under pedaling is way smoother on cues. And apparently there's a cues cassette with aluminium spider. Called CS-LG700. It should weight about the same as Deore.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@PanaehaliTut yes the Groupset that apparently will be used mostly in Europe?

@pack_yak 3 месяца назад

would be cool to see a test on if shimano cue's 1:1 ratio is compatible with sram's exact actuation as I believe that's also 1:1

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Yeah jsut don't have any SRAM aside from Eagle in my hands

@steffenstengardvilladsen3740 8 дней назад

I was hoping to see measurements of the chain width. Are cues compatible with all old 11-speed chains?

@LoveMTB 8 дней назад

I have this covered in many videos on my channel 😊 as for what’s compatible it is in this video, I say it in the video can’t show all the time

@moozeex1 3 месяца назад

Is Shimano Cues cassette compatible with M9000 M8000 shifters and deraileures??

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Unfortunately no, those are compatible with M5100

@inyourears2596 3 месяца назад

After comparing 11spd cues and deore m6100 the quality of m6100 is way premium and better overall and the price is cheaper compared to cues

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

With you on that, you can see it in the ivdeo vs M5100 as well

@aaronpyre 3 месяца назад

I am interested in seeing if you can use the cues/linkglide cassette with a non cues/linkglide 11 speed drivetrain, not using the 50T cues/linkglide cassette but the 45T one

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

I thought I did the test...

@aaronpyre 3 месяца назад

You used a 11-50T cassette not the smaller 11-45T cassette. Based on your test & some of your other comments you have only tested the 11-50T cassette not the 11-45T. You stated in a comment that the capacity issue of the non cues/linkglide 11 speed derailleurs don’t have the big cog capacity to take a 50T. My question is can they take the cues/linkglide 11-45T cassette that is within their capacity & thus they might shift better because they aren’t being pushed beyond their capabilities

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@aaronpyre Because of the pull ratio and the spacing of the cassette I don't think it would work well regetdless of the cassette. And where did you see an 11-45T CUES cassette? They have 11-46, 11-48 and 11-50 for the 9, 10, and 11 speed?

@Ghostina1 3 месяца назад

But what, sorry if i missed it, when you pair. An m8000 or m9000 derailleur with the cues cassette

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

I did not/ will not do that, those derailleurs would struggle with the 50T, they work ok up to 46T

@silver_c1oud 3 месяца назад

i think next time you should also mention what model of XT 11 speed you are referring to since the previous XT (M8000) uses Hyper glide as far as i know... cheers mate.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

It is specified in the subtitles pretty clearly, great point! Would be a lot easier to talk about all this with a live audience!😊

@gabinidal6908 3 месяца назад

Im still using my bullet proof 3x10 deores lol😂 hope this goes the same with the cues..

@palinkash007 Месяц назад

Hello everyone - lg400 11-50 cassette (cues linkglide) - m5100 derailleur (HG) - u6000-11 shifter (cues linkglide) Combo will be work?

@jeffnewsted1068 22 дня назад

For you which is better 10s deore or 10s cues , honest answer pls

@LoveMTB 21 день назад

10 speed CUES

@user-yz1xn9rw1j Месяц назад

Are the mtb hg cassette (10s) and cue u6000 (10s) derailleur sets compatible?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Yes

@user-yz1xn9rw1j 24 дня назад

thank you At this time, can I use the existing 10-speed chain (HG)? Or should I use LG type or HG 11-speed chain?

@LoveMTB 24 дня назад

@@user-yz1xn9rw1j you can use any 11 speed chain

@sergiustancu561 3 месяца назад

Salut, Shimano XT Linkglide RD-M8130 vs Cues RD-U8000 vs Cues RD-U6000, what's the difference ?

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Quality and cage for the XT!

@Jinedan 3 месяца назад

Now try a Linkglide cassette with SRAM 11s shifter and derailleur :)

@lukas601 3 месяца назад

Wait, if shimano cues uses 1:1 pull ratio, can you please try it with sram drivetrains? I think they use 1:1 too

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

I could but don't have any more SRAM 10-11s in my hands aside from a cassette

@realitybytesofficial Месяц назад

Is it compatible on any gravel bike?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Not yet but chances are they're coming with it at some point

@wanderer2246 3 месяца назад

Does enybody understand what Cues cranks "Only compatible with LINKGLIDE shifting system" on the Shimano website means? Because at the same time in characteristics, they are saying that it is also compatible with HG 11-speed as well

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Marketing doesn't always translate well the engineering facts...

@elononoras1902 18 дней назад

Your cranks don't care a tiny bit what you are running in the back.

@uncleants 3 месяца назад

Presumably if the non Cues cassette works perfectly with the otherwise Cues setup, it'll work the other way. ie. if you have an otherwise HG drivetrain you could use a Linkglide 11 speed cassette without issues if longevity and smoothness were your priority over shift speed and weight. In other words the cassettes are interchangeable. Changing the pull ratio was completely unnecessary and a cynical move if you ask me ... making things incompatible because you can rather than because you need to, but at least 11 speed Cues and 11 speed HG seem to share the same cog pitch.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Word that I used was useable 😉

@virginiascurti5036 3 месяца назад

Nickel vs Phosphate coating, the NI Linkglide is going to last longer.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

Most probably but longevity doesn't just come from that.

@Ignatzberlin Месяц назад

Can I use this with a sram crankset?

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

Yes you could!

@Ignatzberlin Месяц назад

@@LoveMTB Thank You!

@andrewsiasparks 3 месяца назад

None of the LBS around me are even carrying any of the cues yet. If I order online it's more expensive than deore 😅

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

For now...

@andrewsiasparks 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB hopefully that means the price will go down and not that the deore will be raised in price.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@andrewsiasparks Who knows, it should go down as SHimano expects 1-2 out of 5 bikes in the enar future to have CUES installed.

@Tluquero Месяц назад

Hi you show everything but not how to remove a cues. I need to remove a spacer hope you can help .. Tony

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

I have a series of videos on this, check them out😉 Don't know what you're trying to remove.

@Tluquero Месяц назад

@@LoveMTB the chainring

@ArdianSutarjan Месяц назад

review Shimano Essa please

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

If I can get my hands on it! But honestly what's wrong with 9 speed CUES? Do we really need another non-compatible with CUES 8 speed?

@ninjazzrhythm400 3 месяца назад

All I care about is how long they would last and price😂 I use Sensah SLR Pro 11 speed groupset. Cheap and works good😮

@Frombie_01 3 месяца назад

Now, can we have your thoughts on a CUES 2x10 or 2x11 set up?

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

One of the reasons for CUES was to bring wide range 1x down to 10 and 9 speed. 2x will be for the road stuff when they release it, no need for it for MTB

@Frombie_01 3 месяца назад

@@LoveMTB From everything I have read on CUES is that they have 2x crank sets and FDs for MTBs. As for there not being a need for it that is matter of personal preference.

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

@@Frombie_01 Agree 100%. They do have 2x cranks, have seen them, and no did not need something like that for our use.

@wallyedmonds8199 3 месяца назад

I don’t understand really , I use 12speed SLX , is the difference cost and only up to 11 speed ,

@LoveMTB 3 месяца назад

And durability and tougher cassette so teeth don't break under e-bike power

@Smalfox633 21 час назад

Hope you can review the shimano cues brake set.

@LoveMTB 12 часов назад

@@Smalfox633 is there CUES brakes? I thought they were launched with the many non-series Shimano already has, and j fi have the MT200/400 covered in a video

@Smalfox633 12 часов назад

@@LoveMTB yes there is, it is the u8000 series

@LoveMTB 11 часов назад

@@Smalfox633 Oh yeah itls bits and pieces of their current lineup, nothing's new. MT200/400 lever with XT-like caliper. Check this out - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5K5SMkNmhrI.html They are probably ok brakes if you get them cheap, no ServoWave in the lever and that long lever style.

@Smalfox633 11 часов назад

@@LoveMTB thanks. The u8000 brake set is expensive here in the Philippines. The price is the same as the slx 2 piston brake set.

@LoveMTB 10 часов назад

@@Smalfox633 I would get the SLX in a heartbeat. Even better, the Deore M6100😉

@robertmcfadyen9156 Месяц назад

HG shifts better overall .