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5 Photo Myths BUSTED 

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Are bigger sensors better? Do you need a new camera? On this episode of the Picture This! Photography podcast, Tony and Chelsea debunk the confusing photo myths that frutrate photographers!

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@BabyEleven11
@BabyEleven11 15 часов назад
wait, can we have a contest between chelsea and tony where the community chooses between their photos? but don't tell us who took each photo
@neonsignguy
@neonsignguy 13 часов назад
I vote for Chelsea, i don't care if she doesn't take any photos
@FireImageFM1
@FireImageFM1 12 часов назад
I want in
@babajaiy8246
@babajaiy8246 11 часов назад
What are you going to view them on - you phone or some 8k monitor?
@mdog6726
@mdog6726 18 часов назад
Photography - keep your head up. Golf - keep your head down.
@marc_likes_marketing
@marc_likes_marketing 18 часов назад
i shoot with auto exposure (just set aperture and shutter speed), ignore the rule of thirds (if it looks good to me, then that's all that matters), i use my a6100 w/my sony 1.8 11mm (16.5) more than my sony a7iii with a 16-35 2.8 (the former is more compact, lighter and inexpensive - i worry less about them), i love minimalist landscapes, yet i love sunsets with massive waves and deeply textured clouds. i hate photoshop and generative AI. the only AI i use is denoise in LR. as usual, i love your vids and thanks for always keeping it real.
@christof4105
@christof4105 15 часов назад
hello my friend. my spirit animal 😂 I got the R7 because of compactness and affordability, with sigmas f2.8 lenses, and the rfs 18-150 for general purpose, te rf100-500L for wildlife and whatever else. I shoot mostly landscapes and my local wildlife and sometimes aviation. Occasionally people. I also hate AI except the denoise in photolab.
@marc_likes_marketing
@marc_likes_marketing 12 часов назад
@@christof4105 haha nice to meet you, friend 😁 how is photolab??
@christopherjs4945
@christopherjs4945 15 часов назад
some kit lenses are pretty good - Nikon Z 24-70 f/4, Fuji 16-55 f/2.8-4....
@shadyninja1
@shadyninja1 6 часов назад
These are not kit lenses. Fixed aperture of F4 on the Nikon 24-70mm is not a feature of kit lenses.
@branimirteodorovic2297
@branimirteodorovic2297 4 часа назад
@@shadyninja1 If it's sold as a kit, than it's a kit lens
@jwill9311
@jwill9311 18 часов назад
I remember I once had a bride that didn’t dye her blonde hair before the engagement photos. Think reverse skunk with the reversed roots. I was in no way technically able or patient enough to fix that in post.
@williamblackwell9558
@williamblackwell9558 16 часов назад
If you are talking about Nikon or Sony sensors, then yes bigger sensors are better for photography. A few years back Canon sensors were behind. Nikon and Sony had a few APSC sensors that were better than some of the Canon FF sensors but that has changed Canon is doing much better now.
@branimirteodorovic2297
@branimirteodorovic2297 4 часа назад
Canon RP has less dynamic range (11.9 stops) than all of modern MFT sensors (even Lumix GH5 has 13 stops)
@pvolkspvolks
@pvolkspvolks 6 часов назад
Hey Tony and Chelsea, been years that I've stepped away from photography but lately I was asked to volunteer shoot for a good cause and it reminded me about what I missed about photography. So after ten years, I tuned back to your channel and one thing struck me, Father time has changed you in only one way but has had no effect on the energy and love you both carry as a couple and despite your channel being a photography channel i remember always enjoying your dynamic together, it's a rare and beautiful thing. ❤
@NeilHadynNicholson
@NeilHadynNicholson 10 часов назад
I Photoshop a lot of things too because I can. I've been using Photoshop since the mid 90's when it only had four tool for film separation. I had several expert level certificates. Sadly I don't do subscriptions but I am perfectly fine with using the older version which I own.
@peterrebhahn1113
@peterrebhahn1113 18 часов назад
Many things can be effectively learned on RU-vid but golf is not one of them. Take lessons -- assuming you haven't already.
@mt-nv4jd
@mt-nv4jd 18 часов назад
I have a full frame camera and a crop sensor camera. Except for the effect on the lenses, I am not sophisticated enough to tell the difference. And I'm ok with that.
@rabellogp
@rabellogp 17 часов назад
If you don't shoot in situations where you can't escape extreme ISO and squeezing all you can get from the raw files, I think it's hard to see differences indeed... Usually low light situations combined with the need of fast exposure is what makes the lower noise of full frame sensos shine...
@SivertAlmvik
@SivertAlmvik 17 часов назад
@@rabellogp I shoot auto-ISO up to 12 500 on an APS-C sensor. I don't care how high the ISO goes (nor do I check in the EXIF data afterwards). It is not relevant at all. The image is what counts, and how fast I'm able to capture it. Most sensors are more than capable enough. If all people start to notice is the "noise", the images was not good to begin with.
@rabellogp
@rabellogp 16 часов назад
@@SivertAlmvik sure, I agree. I'm just pointing to our friend that difference it is more and more visible as you shoot in situations where ISO is pushed to the limit. The practical relevance of that difference is open for debate of course, as it depends on the usage. And also I'm considering both sensors are of similar generation and quality. Otherwise I'm sure we'll find a lot of exceptions.
@johnnyhulgan3891
@johnnyhulgan3891 15 часов назад
Enjoyed this!
@carlosoruna7174
@carlosoruna7174 13 часов назад
Nothing beats a good old ccd sensor reason that they became old is cost of manufacturing ..
@TimLucasdesign
@TimLucasdesign 16 часов назад
I use a full frame camera but I've started shooting with F4 lenses. I generally prefer a deeper depth of field these days for 2 reasons. 1. It forces me to consider the background and not just lazily obliterate it. If I wanted no background, I'd just shoot in a studio. 2. When I shot portraits of my daughter with my $3k F1.2, her response to the natural bokeh was "ew, why did you take these in 'portrait mode', that's so lame". A humbling moment
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones 13 часов назад
Indeed, what's the point of shooting on location, if you blur out the location?
@mattstone8878
@mattstone8878 8 часов назад
​@@careylymanjonesI live in Hollywood. Gotta blur out the homeless people. 😅
@kkehoe5
@kkehoe5 17 часов назад
While I don’t follow the rule of thirds consciously, I find that the pictures I do take that stand out as the better photos have a strong rule of thirds layout.
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones 13 часов назад
Rule of thirds became a "rule" because it works for most scenes. There are exceptions to every rule. If you're shooting wildlife, and the critter is looking at you, centered works, too.
@scottw4336
@scottw4336 13 часов назад
Right place...right time........that's better than sensor type 🤙😎🤙
@MaxZappa1
@MaxZappa1 5 часов назад
Agree
@sophietucker1255
@sophietucker1255 17 часов назад
I started shouting in 1970. Full manual everything, there were no other choices. As automation entered the scene many of us used as much of it as actually worked for our style of work. Gear never matters until it does. Anymore I’ll take better lenses over a newer body. I‘ve always thought that with sensor size there was a point of diminishing returns. The sensor size has way more to do with how you use the final image. Showing things on social media doesn’t need a 50+ megapixel sensor. I had a person who always made fantastic prints tell me that 12 megapixels was more than enough for up to 11x14 prints. Since I rarely make prints over that I’m more than happy with my 24 megapixel cameras. Oh, and I don’t care if it’s crop, full frame or medium format, which isn’t even 6x4.5 in film camera size. As for the “rules of composition” you really need to know the rules before you can break them. That said though you should know why you are breaking them
@PhillipRPeck
@PhillipRPeck 16 часов назад
I've been shouting since the 70s, too, but nobody ever listens
@nickadams1051
@nickadams1051 2 часа назад
??? m43 has not enough or not the right lenses? First, m43 has the largest choices of native lenses of any camera system. Second, you can adapt any lens to m43 given that doubled focal length/increased DoF is what one wants. Third, there are some lenses for m43 that do not exist for other formats. Fourth, if m43 lenses are to cheap, go for a 25k$ Rodenstock cine lens.
@arunca190
@arunca190 18 часов назад
It’s not the size of the sensor, it’s the motion of the IBIS.
@tubularificationed
@tubularificationed 18 часов назад
The IBIS doesn't help you to freeze moving items or subjects, and doesn't help with noise, dynamic range, and bokeh. For hand-held tele, IBIS doesn't help with large wobble, which is why in-lens OIS (optical IS) is so important for tele (and IBIS is not a substitute for that). For tripod work, IBIS wouldn't bring any advantage onto the table.
@ScreenFiends
@ScreenFiends 18 часов назад
​@@tubularificationedI think the joke may have gone over your head ...
@shakerman55
@shakerman55 18 часов назад
Made me laugh.🤣 Gotta watch that IBIS motion.
@marc_likes_marketing
@marc_likes_marketing 18 часов назад
LOL!
@TaiJason37
@TaiJason37 18 часов назад
Oh yeah!
@megaredkentadate9834
@megaredkentadate9834 12 часов назад
Photography is subjective. What's regarded as "no good" by one can also been seen as "absolutely gold" to others. Same goes for the topic you are talking about here. It's not about specs or whatever. It's about the user, the situation, the environment, your surroundings and how you adapt to them at the time. By all means if you have the budget go for that ultra high end camera. It does not matter. Bottom line is YOU YOURSELF be HAPPY. You must also remember that 100% of the time you will mostly struggle to get what you really want.
@richhalvorsen8792
@richhalvorsen8792 17 часов назад
"Unfortunately the answer is much more complex than that and would take an hour tutorial to cover" And then they'll take away the same 30 second conclusion that bigger sensors are better 🤣
@williamblackwell9558
@williamblackwell9558 16 часов назад
For photography, it is very easy FF is better than APSC in every way with the new mirrorless Nikon and Sony's.
@mohammadshashaa573
@mohammadshashaa573 16 часов назад
“Yeah, I guess what we’re saying is If you think bigger sensors are better it’s not necessarily true if you can get a good deal on a camera with a smaller sensor that’s fine you shouldn’t be just exclusively looking at that “. Chelsea said. SO in case I'm shooting the moon for example a higher pixel density crop sensor would be much more better then a full frame sensor even if the full frame sensor has a higher megapixels in total resolution but it lakes the higher pixel density especially when the lens is replaced with a telescope So the conclusion is as Chelsea said exactly .😁
@richhalvorsen8792
@richhalvorsen8792 15 часов назад
I think the joke is lost that Tony was trying to keep from oversimplifying it and here we are doing exactly that again. I have both full and ASPC and I use both for somewhat usually different things. But I would never dissuade anyone from getting either, especially if they had to choose only one.
@davestokes3446
@davestokes3446 Час назад
@@williamblackwell9558 Define "better". Your definition is different to mine. Better for me include cost and portability.
@davidbarajas12
@davidbarajas12 14 часов назад
My point of confusion is why do my mixed lighting, at night, run and gun photos need soooo much Photoshop while I see my friends iphone's doing a great job. I hope to see Ai playing out in cameras. My dream is small camera, interchangeable lenses and a Xperia 'brain". I want Fuji to buy the rights to the Nikon 1 mount...and go from there !
@dasaen
@dasaen 14 часов назад
I feel like bigger is better but money exists 😂 covering and experimenting all focal lenses in ff is very very expensive. Probably better for everyone to start with micro four thirds, because that small camera and lens combo will be used again at some point, even after buying full frame. You can get all focal lengths and a camera with tons of features for way under 1k usd. Then it’s easier to make the decision of what ff lens and camera to buy.
@andrewcook9977
@andrewcook9977 14 часов назад
Chelsea's website wins. Sorry, Tony.
@take3534
@take3534 17 часов назад
Guys, really? The one thing you need to get right with a video like this is the audio! You can do better than this! Love the channel though
@veselingramatikov
@veselingramatikov 14 часов назад
So sell your 50.000$ gear and use your phone. Sensor size does not matter right? :)
@halaji
@halaji 10 часов назад
You comment is silliness.
@GuiFan
@GuiFan 5 часов назад
At 4:27 you can observe the phenomenon where the photographer only smiles at an aperture of less than 2
@GinoFoto
@GinoFoto 18 часов назад
It's not a myth at all, bigger sensor tend to have a certain look, often attributed to bigger bit depth. I compared the R10 with the R8 using precise aperture equivalency, and yes, the R8 picture looked more colorful, organic and smooth, even though the depth of field was exactly the same on both.
@colonelangus8247
@colonelangus8247 16 часов назад
You can say it, 3d pop.
@cb2917
@cb2917 16 часов назад
does this "organic" or "smooth" look only apply for uncropped images in direct comparison? since many are buying an r7 or r10 to have more megapixel on your subject (birders), it would be interesting if this additional image quality from FF would compete with advantage of crop cameras pixel density.
@colonelangus8247
@colonelangus8247 16 часов назад
@@djstuc there's more two it than just micro contrasts.
@zechenwei1139
@zechenwei1139 14 часов назад
What’s a “bigger bit depth?”😂 Is a 16-bit bit depth on a crop-sensor camera “smaller” compared to that of the FF camera? I feel you are either trying to sound smarter than you probably are or trying to justify your own spendings.
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones 12 часов назад
It's sometimes called "tonality" and even back in the film days, bigger gave smoother tonality. A MF Velvia transparency on a light box is a glorious thing. It utterly blows 35mm film away. It's why Ansel Adams schlepped that 8x10" view camera around.
@yash_kambli
@yash_kambli 18 часов назад
Keep dof and noise aside, tell me whether apsc can give same “FEEL" as FF or not. What do i ask is dynamic range, colour depth, micro contrast etc.
@iustitiaepervenit
@iustitiaepervenit 17 часов назад
The movies are shot on super35 sensors. So what do you think?
@SimplestUsername
@SimplestUsername 17 часов назад
The smaller the sensor, the more glass quality can negatively affect the image quality because you're fundimentally amplifying the lenses flaws and softness. Most box office films are shot in Super 35/APS-C look amazing because the glass they use is absolutely incredible. That said, the factors you're focusing on aren't as impacted as you think. Color bit rate and dynamic range are phenomenal on, say Sony's modern APS-C sensors. That difference just isn't great enough to make a visual difference a vast majority of use cases.
@branimirteodorovic2297
@branimirteodorovic2297 5 часов назад
Full frame is better than MFT because it's much easier to design 50mm f/1.2 FF than a 25mm f/0.6 MFT. It's just physics. Plus, FF will always have higher dynamic range. I'm not saying that FF is better for every genre of photography, but for most of people FF is better.
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 3 часа назад
Th consumer does not care about lense design , we care about results and full frame does not give me better results. Ff is better on paper but not in the real world, if you know what you do. I do photo and video for money with my gh7 and the camera does great.
@davestokes3446
@davestokes3446 2 часа назад
I will hike up a mountain with a 300mm mft lens; definitely not taking a 600mm ff.
@branimirteodorovic2297
@branimirteodorovic2297 2 часа назад
@@davestokes3446 I agree. That's why I said FF is not better of all types of genres
@RetrieverTrainingAlone
@RetrieverTrainingAlone Час назад
@@davestokes3446 On sunny days, I hike with a 800mm Canon RF 800mm F/11...very lightweight lens and I've got some great photos of caribou, bears, and moose up here in Alaska.
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 18 часов назад
I've actually never used any of the zoom kit lenses I have. Mostly because I prefer to use manual prime lenses but are kit zooms really THAT bad? Perhaps it make a good video?
@calebhearn1526
@calebhearn1526 16 часов назад
No, modern kit zooms are actually pretty good these days. 15 years ago they were a little dull, but they tend to be very good now. Most people won't upgrade their kit lenses, so manufacturers have learned that they need to bundle a decent kit lens otherwise people will think unsharp photos are the camera's fault.
@AMomentInTimeProductions
@AMomentInTimeProductions 13 часов назад
It's not the camera (Gear) it's the photographer, yes great lenses makes all the difference, in fact more important than the camera.. But You don't need a great camera to take great pictures, there was a photographer who was very famous, named irving penn. when he first started he use a crappy camera and took very famous pictures.. He photographer famous people such as: Truman Capote Albert Einstein Marlene Dietrich Alfred Hitchcock Robert De Niro Al Pacino Robin Williams David Bowie Père Couturier Tennessee Williams Pablo Picasso He Done work for Vogue magazine and tons of others, And he was 26 when he started using a cheap Rolleiflex Most of all of his work became iconic and famous, 90% of his work went into New York art gallery's.. Trust me it's not the Camera, it's the person using it.. Another real famous photographer who did work for Rolling Stones Magazine was Annie Leibovitz she started with a Minolta SRT-101, not a great camera.. Annie Leibovitz was a very famous photographer who done iconic pictures.. Again it's not the camera that makes you great...
@brugj03
@brugj03 7 часов назад
Kicking in the open doors again. Use your phone then and get it over with.
@ralphberrett8485
@ralphberrett8485 18 часов назад
Friends don't recommend Ken Rockwell to friends. My advice is to take anything he says with a pinch of salt, that would equal the Dead Sea.
@ladyethyme
@ladyethyme 18 часов назад
.......ok. But the guy is spot on.
@BenSussmanpro
@BenSussmanpro 18 часов назад
I like Rockwell - he cuts thru all the crap & seems to know what he’s talking about.
@paulanthony1689
@paulanthony1689 18 часов назад
Ken puts forward his opinion on things; hasn't said anything "wrong" that I am aware of. I don't agree with everything he says but have learned a lot from him.
@viktorpaulsen627
@viktorpaulsen627 15 часов назад
Ken Rockwell is a good guy
@ralphberrett8485
@ralphberrett8485 8 часов назад
@@viktorpaulsen627 @paulanthony1689 @BenSussmanpro @ladyethyme First, let me say I have nothing against Ken. My opinion is that things RAW and JPEG he is dead wrong. Ken uses too much cut and paste for his reviews from press releases. Now let me say I have been a pro since 1983 working as a photojournalist for 35 and photographing the Raiders for 15 years. These are my opinions. I used to defend Ken but I saw too many reviews that differed from my personal experience.
@michalsiegel6717
@michalsiegel6717 Час назад
FF (Lumix), APSC (Fuji) and MFT (Lumix) shooter here. IMHO the longer the lenses, smaller sensoc makes sense. The shorter the lens, the bigger sensor makes sense. When I was shooting wildlife I really adored the fixed 200/2.8 an 300/4 MFT system had. Reach of 400 and 600mm combined with excellent sharpness and Lumix class leading IBIS was just superb. But then I focused more on photographing my kids. All of a sudden Leica 42.5/1.2 for €1,800 didn't make sense as I could easily get Viltrox 75/1.2 or Lumix 85/1.8 for less than €600. I also admire the mich richer image depth on the larger sensor for nature and landscape photography. Sure, if I wanted to to wildlife with longer prime lenses on FF, that would on the other hand be much more expensive compared to the smaller sensors. In my eyes, there is almost no bad system on the market. I say almost because I'm completely switching from Fuji (H2 & H2s) to Lumix as Fuji's 4th generation of phase detect AF simply doesn't work compared to the very 1st generation of phase detect AF on Lumix which is insane. If my goal was to use €2,700 stacked sensor camera for some street snaps with pancake lenses? Yeaaaah maybe. 😂😂
@heliosending
@heliosending 9 часов назад
What's crazy is that the MEDIUM format is actually larger than FULL frame.
@mattstone8878
@mattstone8878 8 часов назад
I have never thought about it that way. My brain itches. 🧠
@Kellysher
@Kellysher 2 часа назад
After being away from photography for 20 years, I came back and used Panasonic MFT. I Really didn’t like the image quality. Sold it quickly for Canon R5 100-500. Even cropped, I’m much happier with my photos. Mostly I do wildlife. Weight is a consideration for me, so the cropped R7 is interesting to me on the 100-500 lens.. Waiting for the R7ii.
@MrDiburnett
@MrDiburnett Час назад
If you've gotten used to shooting with the latest professional full frame mirrorless cameras and the best glass out there, it's always helpful to leave all that gear at home for a weekend, and pick up a micro four thirds camera with a kit lens, or even a pocket size point and shoot, or an antique all manual film camera with manual lenses, and challenge yourself by just focusing on the basics of photography from time to time. The technology can give us super powers, but simple, old gear or cheap, crappy gear forces us to overcome limitations, to focus on the fundamentals of the craft, and makes us better artists.
@SneakyCaleb
@SneakyCaleb 17 часов назад
Using a monochrome sensor has changed my life. The Leica Q2M is the most amazing camera I’ve ever owned. Shooting in almost pure darkness handheld with almost no noise/grain is a trip.
@jacksponsler9341
@jacksponsler9341 Час назад
Sorry Tony but I just checked your two wildlife portfolios and honestly for the style of photos that are most appealing to me, I liked Chelsea’s. I do both styles but like to see more of the environment when it can be included.
@villageblunder4787
@villageblunder4787 18 часов назад
Analogue wildlife photographers aren't changing ISO (or ASA ).
@estraume
@estraume Час назад
I use A mode and auto ISO, but sometimes I adjust down the ISO to 6400 or lower when I trust the image stabilization more than the camera recommend. 😅
@davidgommeren7283
@davidgommeren7283 2 часа назад
The rule of third is important because it stops beginners of always putting the subject in the middle (whatever the subject is, can be a person, an animal, a mountain range, an island). It leads to boring, bad photos that always need cropping and it was the rule of thirds that made me stop doing that. I hate post processing so if I can get it right when taking the photo, that's a win for me.
@ariesmight6978
@ariesmight6978 10 часов назад
I decided to go all professional. On my vlogging system. I spent time searching for the best video system. I discovered the ARRI company. Produces the best video recording system. I then purchased an ARRI ALEXA video camera. With everything that I would need. To get the ALEXA fully rigged out. I then purchased a vlogging stick. Off of TEMU, after I had mounted the. Fully rigged ALEXA to my new vlogging stick. Then tried using it. The stick broke, now I have learned. Not to shop from TEMU.
@cameragod1
@cameragod1 9 часов назад
Hey are you going to talk about the issues with Sony's latest Firmware update? The update to my FX30 basically broke AF on all my lenses, adapted don't work at all, the Sony 18-105 sometimes works but defaults to MF at random times, the Viltrox 1.4 primes have been the best but still are on MF at camera start up. Also my playback is doing weird stuff... I don't know how to explain it but is seems to do something different every time I use it... and I need it to LiveU to one client so thats just annoying af. Nobody seems to be talking about it.
@andrewbristoe1833
@andrewbristoe1833 8 часов назад
The prime v zoom boom bash hiss recently come across recent vlog the argument for prime often speed and walk the focal distance .But FRAMING!? Zoom can walk it back zoom in or out lot of framing options .Feel and frame ..forgotton a bit in the world of Crispy images !?
@insightvideo6136
@insightvideo6136 10 часов назад
I agree with Tony on the rule of thirds. For me the “rule” is a compositional crutch. Composition is about flow and balance not rules. The “rule” originally dealt with color ratios, not composition. Research “Sir Joshua Reynolds” to learn how this obscure creative straight jacket came about over three hundred years ago.
@davidpavlich8939
@davidpavlich8939 8 часов назад
The Rule of..... Treat the rules more like strong suggestions. However, the one rule that I pay very close attention to is The Rule of Motion, especially for wildlife, air shows, and sports in general. You want to ruin an otherwise good shot of a deer moving through the woods? Put more space behind the deer than in front of the deer when you're processing the shot. Or do the same with a P47 Thunderbolt making a high speed pass across the flight line. The shots lose perspective.
@blisteringbooks2428
@blisteringbooks2428 2 часа назад
What is the difference between a Canon system and a Hasselblad one? A house! As a professional of 50 yrs, way back with film I would shoot weddings on roll film, motorsport on 35. I had 7 lenses for my 645, 35 to 300, but not only was the reach limited, the amount of film using 220 went through the roof. The main thing about progressing from film is I choose and compose each shot, I do not use H or H+ on my R5. If I wanted 30fps I would shoot 8K video. Oh, and you cannot compare P to M, even if you are using auto ISO you are still choosing your speed and f stop.
@andreas_rr
@andreas_rr 17 часов назад
Camera physics/engineering is so much simpler than people think. In the end, anything FF can do, any other sensor type can do too. HOWEVER every change to the sensor needs to be compensated accordingly in the lens in order to achieve the same result. And i mean, exactly the same result under the same conditions, same bokeh, same noise, same fov, same everything. My issue with APS-C and especially MFT is that "bad" sensors need "good" lenses to compensate, and well, making the sensor bigger is A LOT cheaper than improving the quality of EVERY lens you own in order to get the same results. MFT and APS-C lenses arent naturally smaller, ligher or cheaper, they just perform less than the user believes due to marketing. So personally, the ONLY reason i consider APS-C to be a good choice, is when you already have great lenses and prefer an APS-C secondary body over using a high MP primary body (i personally hate high MP because you dont need them and they waste storage, bandwidth etc.). I'd rather have my R6ii and get a R50ii in a few years than having a R5ii instead. Similarly you might appreciate a R7 if you have an R1/R3 and expensive lenses, in order to get a higher pixel density. MFT on the other hand is imho nonsensical, since there arent any other sensor types you can double down on using the lenses with. And if you are fine with a "bad" sensor and a "bad" lens, just get a bridge-camera. That's the lightest, cheapest, smallest and most versatile option, if image quality is not a priority. Or a compact camera works too. And finally, does that make medium format even better, in theory? Absolutely. The only issue is it's not widespread enough for the prices to be optimal. That's the benefit of FF, that it's just very common, and has the most variety, while also ranging from affordable to an open ceiling.
@babajaiy8246
@babajaiy8246 11 часов назад
Actually AF can be very important for 'landscape'/outdoor...especially when you want to shoot very late or vary early - dusk/dawn. Nope...no auto...all manual shutter, aperture and iso. Yes, that's from my film days...and yes it's automatic and actually much faster to get the shot as you want it - not how the 'auto' determined it.
@Bladeclaw00100
@Bladeclaw00100 13 часов назад
I would like to add that when you're buying your first camera, you should buy a basic inexpensive camera and explore all different types of photography. You don't know what you'll really like or dislike. If you find yourself shooting sports or portraits then you'll know what limitations you have. You will also learn more about what features would be more beneficial to you..and when you get a lens, try a variable zoom lens and a prime lens. This will help you try out different focal ranges and shooting methods. Don't spend too much. And apsc is fine for this. I call this your training camera and lens. You might think you like wild life but not enjoy it and rather do flash photography, or landscape. So before you spend tons of money try things out cheap. Once you see patterns then you will find out your needs and wants more concrete and can purchase the right lenses and cameras and other equipment. Otherwise you will buy something you thought you want and need, but rarely end up using it. An example: you buy a full frame camera with 2 large heavy prime lenses. You find out later you don't take it to trips because it's too heavy and bulky and would rather have bought an APSC smaller camera with 2 pancake lenses making it lighter and travel friendly. But you would not know that unless you actually tried it.
@bingbong4848
@bingbong4848 5 часов назад
I will recommend that any beginner take time to learn to shoot fully manual to fully grasp the exposure triangle. It's not practical all the time, but its good to master. Also, experiment with other modes to see how they can be useful in different shooting scenarios.
@dw.in.michigan
@dw.in.michigan 11 часов назад
Tony's advice about choosing the lenses first seems counterintuitive, but it probably is correct. How this can relate to you two learning golf is interesting. And maybe this will help you. One guy that I've golfed with, who was a golf coach, said to start at the cup and work your way back to the tee. Too many people start at the tee and work their way to the cup, in terms of learning the game. Much like your photography suffers if you don't have the right lenses and blow your whole budget on the body, your golf game blows up as you get closer to the cup, if you don't know how to chip and putt. It seems like putting the cart before the horse, but it's really determining your goal then figuring out what you need to achieve that, but you have to work backward from that goal...
@nickadams1051
@nickadams1051 Час назад
Interesting, in one video you rip the iphone 16 to shreds, stating it is equivalent to 3MP and in this video it is all fine. Thanks for this alternative fact.
@kupidon-sl6fg
@kupidon-sl6fg 18 часов назад
After 10 in photography I, finally, have Nikon Z8 and Nikkor 85 mm 1.2. After 10 days working with this dream combo all I have to say - invest big and liberate yourself. It's freedom and joy. Simple as that...
@jankather3384
@jankather3384 17 часов назад
I always agree with Chelsea, but I have to say, not with the thirds rule - remember Edward Weston’s advice about composition being “the strongest way of seeing” - every person can respond to the subject (Tony) differently, as individually, our visions are personal and hopefully not just a copy of the same old, same old…. A real challenge.
@creatorsjourney6286
@creatorsjourney6286 17 часов назад
I have used my M50 and the R6 in comparison and it’s crazy to see how beautiful the photos from the M50 (with a flash)are compared to my R6 but, in low light the R6 definitely out shines the M50 by far! The lens of course made a huge improvement on the M50. Love listening to you guys✊🏼🤙🏼
@robinheider414
@robinheider414 18 часов назад
Being an old and new school photographer (I'm 68) we bought film for different lighting conditions and depended on the dark room and our printing skills to correct over and under exposed shots to a great extent. Shooting wild life and action subjects was much more difficult in the old days and to a great degree was much more hit and miss compared to auto focus and exposure metering of today's even most basic cameras. Relatively speaking, photography was more expensive historically then today as well.
@juliansykes960
@juliansykes960 16 часов назад
Hang on a minute. You’ve spent the last few weeks slagging off iPhones as not being real cameras only now to say it uses computational photography to compensate for a small sensor proving that a larger sensor isn’t always better. And all digital cameras use computational photography to some extent. Your Canon R5 hasn’t got a roll of film in it has it. Just for the record, ideally I would definitely have a Canon R5 too, but I wouldn’t take it up a mountain with me because it and the lenses would be way too bloody heavy.
@elledriver3509
@elledriver3509 18 часов назад
It's not about the price. It's about knowing about the basics and using them properly: aperture, shutter speed, ISO - plus (Auto-)focus and focal length. After this you'll know what tool to buy..😁👍🏼
@derrickdphoto
@derrickdphoto 8 часов назад
Love your unbiased reviews.. brands must hate you guys 😆 I have the r5 and im a portrait photographer, have no reason to upgrade to the r5ii.. the autofocus is the only thing that caught my eye cause I do shoot in lowlight, plus sunset shoots. The video upgrade is nice but it’s not a must. If you got the money and want to splurge then sure get the latest and greatest.
@wongjefx980
@wongjefx980 17 часов назад
I picked up a used aps-c Sony and few years later, the FF big brother. The extra detail from the FF I like when blowing up the picture. Buying used....I picked up a-mount bodies to use with old Minolta lenses.
@tubularificationed
@tubularificationed 18 часов назад
"A bigger sensor is better" - at least this is always true within the same camera size/weight class. A smartphone with a bigger sensor is better than one with a smaller sensor. Same for point'n'shoots. Same for system cameras of the same weight & size class (e.g. APS-C size&weight = compact full frame, nowadays). If you compare different size classes, especially when one of them (including the bulk/weight/size/costs of its typical lenses) may start to get annoying for many use cases (e.g. "medium format"), then it is a sweet-spot consideration: How much pain will you want to suffer for how much improvement, if any.
@leemarkowitz4709
@leemarkowitz4709 13 часов назад
Not true…it depends on context. Plenty of wildlife photographers have shown in tests that you get more detail of distant subjects with the R7 than the R6, for example. The. There’s the issue of getting faster, lighter lenses for the same price with crop sensor.
@tubularificationed
@tubularificationed 6 часов назад
@@leemarkowitz4709 Wildlife (esp. birds) means cropping, for most who don't or can't afford long-enough teles. If you crop anyway as a birder, then you don't need a bigger sensor anyway, that's true. You literally would crop away its advantages. If so, then crop sensors are sufficient. Crop sensor brands offer slower lenses. They exploit (=monetize) the fact that many still won't understand "equivalence", even after 20 years of informed digital photography.
@leemarkowitz4709
@leemarkowitz4709 4 часа назад
@@tubularificationed Perhaps, but if you want a lens with equivalent reach and at an equivalent price, you may end your losing much of the light gathering advantage of full frame. For example, between resolution and crop factor, you’ll need an 800mm lens on the Canon R6 to have the same reach as a 400mm lens in the R7.
@Bladeclaw00100
@Bladeclaw00100 13 часов назад
Bigger is also heavier, and larger to carry around. The lenses especially zoom lenses are much bigger than their APSC counterparts. That may not better for some. Also there is more to inage quality than lens and sensor quality. Some cameras like your phones use multiple lenses to create one photo buy merging the chomanance and luminance together. Some cameras jave different types of sensors such as xtrans sensor or bayer sensor. And some people frefer to use a light or nd filter which can control light.
@larrywhite8590
@larrywhite8590 17 часов назад
There is always an outlier to every statement. Kit lenses are never sharp, except the GF 35-70, which is very sharp and smaller and lighter than the 32-64. There are many others, Olympus 12-40, etc.
@ralphberrett8485
@ralphberrett8485 12 часов назад
Here is my view on rules Learn the principle, abide by the principle, and dissolve the principle. In short, enter a mold without being caged in it. Obey the principle without being bound by it. -Bruce Lee
@jeroenschoondergang5923
@jeroenschoondergang5923 5 часов назад
My first camera was a 1960's Nikkormat with a detached light meter. I crapped up a tonne of films doing this. Every innovation after that was welcomed by me as something that would make my process easier and better. I shoot for fishing magazines professionally (as an outdoor journalist) and wildlife as a hobby. My fishing shots are usually with the camera on P or S (with auto Iso), my wildlife shots on S or M if I want to close down my aperture a bit (all with auto Iso). I am happy with that, which is all that counts to me. As a 60+ years photo enthousiast I don't give a f## about what people I don't know personally, think about my choices (and many people I do know). Time is too valuable to waste it on useless opinions.
@Dashbshots
@Dashbshots 3 часа назад
Okay, you are out photographing animals. You see a scene and subject that you instantly know looks great. Take some pics and go home to view. You work on the image to make it look just the same as you viewed it in the field. (with blur) So the image is exactly the way you want it. You put it on your site to be sold at numerous sizes from small to huge. You offer it for sale and people try to buy it, but when they see it, it looks a little different from the original. At least the border will be different for all the different sized images. So the final image sold will not completely look like the original or really even the original scene. How do you compensate for all the different frame sizes when printing? And you both win but Chelsea wins a little more. Until she's not looking and then Tony wins.
@kenrickhadley4499
@kenrickhadley4499 13 часов назад
Tony looks like you just found out something about Chelsea, like i didn't know you like more GIN than VERMOUTH in your martini.
@oliverfox838
@oliverfox838 16 часов назад
On golf...take lessons. Unlearning bad habits is a nightmare. Learning good habits from the start is the way to go. And not everything good comes from RU-vid videos. 😱
@Kurtiscott
@Kurtiscott 13 часов назад
The rule of thirds is simply a choice. It’s neither good nor bad. Implying that it’s always a ‘bad’ choice is a bit extreme. Therefore, Chelsea wins
@wintron
@wintron 16 часов назад
Found a field of mother's favourite wildflowers picked some and took some pictures with my iPhone. Another person doing the same right next to me later while viewing each others takes claimed I had taken gorgeous pictures thus they wanted to get the same camera model as mine. I quietly announced that we both had the exact same model iPhones
@cbip8259
@cbip8259 17 часов назад
You are an expert in Photography, I am an expert in golf. I would be more than happy to help you with anything you want to know about golf. The swing, equipment, rules etc. You have helped me, let me help you.
@larrywhite8590
@larrywhite8590 15 часов назад
Film has a lot more latitude. And ISO is basically fixed. So for birds where you would have a min shutter speed, aperture would be the main adjustment, and that’s super fast.
@gregfeeler6910
@gregfeeler6910 6 часов назад
Could you give some examples of the lenses you had in mind when you said that FF had “more” lenses than MFT? Thanks.
@johnpollock6996
@johnpollock6996 14 часов назад
Early in the video you said that "kit lenses are never super sharp." I shoot Sony FF. If I went looking for a used or new small prime, what info should I use to distinguish from a kit and non-kit lens in the entire Sony lineup?
@kdj.imagery4317
@kdj.imagery4317 12 часов назад
The best solution is that photography is like golf... go too the driving range and just swing it! You'll give the impression that you are a pro and people will think you know what you are doing.
@Kev_N_1976
@Kev_N_1976 18 часов назад
As the owner of the D800 and the X-H2. I love my smaller frame X-H2 because of the bells & whistles, lack of a mirror and better video and great stills.
@nunuvyurbiz123
@nunuvyurbiz123 17 часов назад
Isn't that indicative, then, that comparing the general purpose camera in a general purpose device (i.e., an iPhone) to dedicated cameras that are themselves only better for sports, or landscapes, or something else, is a bit unfair?
@andrewdavies6273
@andrewdavies6273 15 часов назад
Sometimes less is more....
@christophermason7735
@christophermason7735 17 часов назад
Nice video guys. I love an APSC sensor because it means I can get my camera and lenses in my small bag when I'm out and about. I could buy a full frame but I would take a lot fewer photos.
@OhhhhhhhBugger
@OhhhhhhhBugger 13 часов назад
The R7 and R5 are semi-comparable. I see the differences image wise between them though. The R5 does a bit better with noise. Point is though, the crop sensor cameras are getting much better.
@jmp622
@jmp622 14 часов назад
Most help content on RU-vid is not filled with annoying Ads like square space over and over but your content is extremely helpful and entertaining,
@BlairMaynes
@BlairMaynes 7 часов назад
You’re both extremely talented! I like Chelsea’s website better. However, my own is closer to Tony’s… 🤔
@mikebirkett010
@mikebirkett010 17 часов назад
Crack on fellahs, use your manual mode, hope you get your shots... Been photoing for nearly fifty years, sill use whatever gets me the shot, manual, auto, whatever. 😅
@VafaPhotography
@VafaPhotography 18 часов назад
I shoot manual exposure keep both aputure and shutter at a constant and only adjust the iso to lighting needed while shooting. Mostly sports photography shooter though. I am not a fan of auto iso just cause it pushes too far for what's needed imo. Rule of thirds within any crop adjustments for sure and try not to look to deep in the viewfinder but focus is on the interaction and action of the subjects in the moment
@gregc8567
@gregc8567 17 часов назад
As soon as you get home from a shoot - copy your memory cards and plug in your batteries - no matter how long a session then you are always at full capacity for next shoot which might end up being an epic (you never know!)
@Jimbo5063
@Jimbo5063 11 часов назад
I’m with Chelsea on the rule of thirds issue. I don’t use a grid on my display, but I automatically frame my shots based on the rule of thirds.
@travellma8562
@travellma8562 16 часов назад
Tony in most things I tend to agree with you (Sorry Chelsea), but Chelsea's Pics are more to my preference (Sorry Tony)!
@LaveaFirmis
@LaveaFirmis 17 часов назад
Talking about the rule of thirds, bafflingly the grid overlay in the Z6 II is in quarters. I cant see any way to change it to thirds. Why?
@branimirteodorovic2297
@branimirteodorovic2297 4 часа назад
Crop factor is not that technical. People who are too dumb to understand the crop factor should just stick to their smartphones
@nmelcam1
@nmelcam1 16 часов назад
How many full frames have you bought vs crop sensors? Be truthful without counting cell phones or tiny compact cameras.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 17 часов назад
I got a Sony A7, and a Fujfilm X100S. Both by now older models yes. And yes with the right lens both have about the same expectations. Thing is the Fujifilm X100S is a whole lot of fun. And the quality of the images is perfectly fine for most use. Not to mention, it looks harmless, almost cute. Unlike my A7 ...
@GlennSchultes
@GlennSchultes Час назад
Edge Patrol - always check the edges of your frame to see what it intruding.
@peterjb49
@peterjb49 18 часов назад
Thanks for your presentation! I gave up my Nikon D810 and lenses for a Mirrorless system, the Z6ii. As I compare my images from both cameras, the D810 wins out ! I concluded it was megapixels, what do you think?
@shakerman55
@shakerman55 18 часов назад
You would have to get the Z7ii to get the megapixels, and the same look. Added: I have an A9 now, and I like the look of my D800E better, because of more detail.
@d3xmeister
@d3xmeister 18 часов назад
A sensor without PDAF on it, a sensor that can be super slow at readout with no penalty to you, no need for stack design or BSI. That’s why the D810 has a cleaner image.
@peterjb49
@peterjb49 17 часов назад
@@shakerman55 Thanks, I have been looking to sell the Z6ii to have the $$ to get the Z7ii, cannot seem to find a buyer? I am retired so $$ is short.
@shakerman55
@shakerman55 17 часов назад
@@peterjb49 I’m retired too, so I know how it is. Retirement puts a dent in GAS! Good luck!
@warrickcoe5576
@warrickcoe5576 8 часов назад
Golf and Photography are similar, master the basics and then its up to your own style and lots of practice.
@RetrieverTrainingAlone
@RetrieverTrainingAlone Час назад
EXCELLENT! Huge difference between "that's nice" photo and a photo that tells a story.
@johndavidtackett
@johndavidtackett 15 часов назад
Golf checkout Rick Schiels, Bryson DeChambeau, & Claire Hogel for some great tips
@jjd139
@jjd139 10 часов назад
In photography and golf. Learn the basics, then learn how to bend them so they work for you personally.
@Fusionaire
@Fusionaire 9 часов назад
I have full frame Sony but I recently bought a 1/2.5 inch Lumix CCD camera that shoots RAW and I am having a lot of fun with its images.
@johncunha319
@johncunha319 18 часов назад
The sad thing about this is that the vast majority of people out there do not know or care about the difference between full frame or a crop sensor camera. They judge a picture by its content not by the quality or technique which sad but it's true. Show people a picture with a kid and immediately they say, that's a beautiful picture. They don't care that much about quality. Again, that's sad but it's life. Like or not.
@JR-ro5kv
@JR-ro5kv 17 часов назад
Crop factor == club head offset and bounce. 😂 I really enjoyed this video thanks for sharing
@testshoot
@testshoot 17 часов назад
I drive 90mph everywhere, anybody faster than me is a maniac and anyone slower should take the bus. The often touted FF mantra of bigger doesn't matter, but smaller does. The mental gymnastics for whatever reason, but also this topic is rage-bait.
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