Hello Wade, my wife and I have watched most of your videos, thank you for the help! My question to you is, we are tired of using 100% soy waxes, we have not been able to get the HT from Soy that we want so, out of frustration, we are moving away from Soy to another wax. After watching your video “5 Popular Candle Waxes [Reviews] | Free Wax Rating Tool!” We have decided to test IGI 6006 (Para-Soy) and IGI 6046 (Para-Coconut). Our question to you is, in your opinion “general speaking” I know we need to test, test, test, but which of these two waxes will give us the best HT? Or, do you know of another Para-blend that is known to give a strong HT? Thank you again, we appreciate y your help and information!
Hey David. Thanks for tuning in and following the channel! I haven't used 6046 personally. But I would sample it against the 6006 when you have time. Most people including myself get great HT with 6006. But it can be tricky to wick in larger jars. But same might be true of 6046 as well. Another parasoy you could try is ProBlend 600. It is roughly 50/50. I wouldn't say the HT is the best on the market, I would day average or little above average. Using good FOs, its great! It's definitely better than straight soy. What I like about it though is how easy it is to use. It and 6006 are my two favorites overall still. Another one you could try is Clarus 3022. It is 70/30 soy to paraffin. It throws much better than your average soy. But it can also be a little tough to get used to. It shrinks more than most soys but once you lock in your process it's a winner. Email bford@clarussp.com and let him know Wade from Black Tie Barn sent ya. He can get you a sample most likely to try if you are interested. Hope this helps David. Good luck to you and your wife.
Hi everyone, these are just 5 of the common waxes tried and uses by many candle makers. Hope you enjoy the overview (pros and cons) of each as well as the wax comparison tool. Thanks for stopping by!
On the 4627 what I do is if im just making a couple candles I will use a flat ice cream scoop but the best way is to cut the bag sides and use a cake knife, those long dull knives they use for spreading frosting.
@@BlackTieBarn Same here, would love to know if coconut paraffin blend has better scent throw and less sinkholes, etc. I'd imagine it's similar to soy paraffin blend but probably has less pockets/sinkholes.
Curious....since there are so many options for wax do you stick with the same wax because your customers expect the same product or do you switch it up from time to time to possibly find that a different wax is ultimately better and would satisfy customers more? I guess my fear is changing things and customers feeling as though the products themselves have changed .... it may not even been that obvious. I’m new to this lol
Been watching your channel since I've discovered it. Mind blowing stuff you are teaching us all. I wish you were around when I first started my candle making journey. Earlier instructional videos was like watching instructional video back in the 80's in elementary school, just not informative at all. Keep up the amazing work, thank you.
From Austin and it's inspiring to see someone that lives so close doing so well. Great job brother. Thank you for all of the free knowledge. Hope you're having a great day.
Hi there me again . All I gotta do is listen 🎧. It’s like I wanted to ask you that but yur saying it all. So so cool. Thanks again . Have a wonderful blessed day. Lol you’ll prob get tired of me lol
@@BlackTieBarn lol there might be questions later but right now I’m just listening lol. School is definitely in session bro lol 😂 yur awesome when you tell it 👌🏾
Many 'starter' kits use soy wax which is another reason it may be so popular. Thankfully I found your site before buying anything. If I had just gone with what I experienced from a kit, I would have given up on candles. This site is why I continued to experiment and am now thinking about whether I have what it takes to sell what I make.
Okay... I really like spreadsheets and I've been wondering exactly how I'm going to actually make sense of figuring out which wax I want! This. Is. It!
Hi Wade, I cannot begin to articulate how HELPFUL and thankful I’m that you share this info. It was extremely helpful for a newbie or someone who wants to learn. This is definitely going into my watch again list. One thing to note, I recently made soy candles (2nd batch) and once it was cured, I could not understand why it had a sink hole or white frosting on top. After watching this video it provided clarity. Thanks!,
Thankyou so much for taking the time to pass on your experience & knowledge on Candle making, this sort of information means so much to us Newbies .. :)
Omg such informative video. Exactly what I need right now. Unfortunately, around 75% of the video has no sound. Good thing is I can still see your comparison charts. But I would love to listen to you talk since I find you to be such a great teacher. Thanks Wade.
Thanks Uyen. Not sure why no sound. That video has been around a while and haven't had thst complaint. My guess is that being one of my earlier videos it was recorded with mono mic so if your headphones or speakers don't support that it might only being playing one from one side. All recent videos are recorded with better audio equipment but you should still be able to watch and listen to this one and other older ones with a different speaker or headset. Thanks so much for your support. :)
@@BlackTieBarn yes. You’re right. I was only using one earbud. I was able to hear the rest of the video using the other earbud. Thanks for the suggestion. Can’t wait to watch it again.
I appreciate that! Thank you! :) Which visuals are you referring to so I can make sure to include similar in future videos if they worked well? :) Thanks again Angel!
Incredibly smart way to put this altogether. Looks like it took a lot of time. For a beginner I’m looking at 6006 or the 50/50 blend going off of this to begin with my preferences. This was almost exactly what I was looking for in a video. Next would be wicks, vessels, then fragrances. I’m sure you’ve already put them out so I’ll keep looking. 👍 can you let us know nowadays which brings in more of your day to day earnings, candle making or your high end RU-vid videos?
Thanks Joe. And candle making for sure! I do about 20k in candles per month. Significantly more than youtube. I just do youtube because I enjoy it, enjoy helping, and brings in a little extra to compensate for the time. :)
Very informative videos sir! The wick and wax videos educated me greatly and got me steered in a better direction! I would love to see a video on your wax melt method as well as your favorite wax to use when making tarts/melts. Currently using Candle Science 494 for melts. Always looking for other options! Keep up the great work sir.
Thanks Rj. Great suggestion. Absolutely! I am assuming you have already subscribed? That is easiest way to be notified when i do that video! Stay tuned! And, thanks for the positive feedback!
i would love to see a video like this comparing melt and tart waxes. so many options, i am looking for something for decorative melts made from a pop out mold
If you have fridge room put the container that it comes in , in the fridge for about an hour and then you can peel the bag off nicely and transfer into a pail of some sort for easier use.Its a lot easier to scrape from the pail than the messy bag. 4627
Hi wade , you are amazing . I am a single mother with lots of determination and drive I have decided to follow my dream and start making candles . I would love to know if 6006 should be added to another wax for best cold AND hot theow
Thanks so much. Well...Well... two different animals there. For better hot throw, could blend it its 4627. For better cold throw, 464. Find a wax prvlend that is best at both is a challenge.
Wow! Really very amazingly informatively detailed videos! I stumbled upon your videos while browsing on tips on wax melts making and I’m glad I did! Thank you so much for all these super helpful advices/ insights to candle/ melts making and your videos are the best among those on here too! ONE QUESTION please - Is palm wax commonly used for wax melts? I’m trying to find a blend of waxes that has a stronger wax melt as I find that melts made from soy wax tend to be softer and ‘break off’ slightly at the corners after some time.
Hey janice. Thank you so much. While palm isn't super popular for wax melts it can be used. It's awfully harder than usual and can make it tough to snap but also might not melt great in many melters. So just experiment and see how it goes for you. It is a pretty wax though. May also try blending it with something else if really want to use palm. But yes... you definitely can! Thank you again for the kind feedback! :)
Yep, there are several good ones though. Check out a more recent video I posted not too long ago reviewing some of my favorites. It depends on a few things so I'd check that one out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nvnrHmuzFoE.html
Wade you are so knowledgeable. I am new to making wax melts. I used Joy Wax and it is so soft after curing, The hot throw isn't too bad. What can I add to the wax to make it harder and not leave wax in my clam shell to use up the Joy. What do you use in your melts?
Hi! Thank you! So joy wax is NOT meant for wax melts. As toy mentioned is a container candle wax and is too soft. Try pillar of bliss or pro blend 650 for the wax melt version. :)
I’m curious about the healthiest wax to use and healthiest wicks? I’m also eco-friendly, and so looking for the best environmentally, friendly, wicks, and wax. What do you suggest?
This was incredibly helpful, Thank you. I’m hoping you can answer this question for me Wade because I have searched and searched and can’t find the answer. Can you tell me what causes some candles to smell “waxy” or cheap? I realize that some of it may have to do with subpar fragrances... but even BBW carries many that put off such a wax smell. I’m just stepping into this and if you can guide me on what causes that, it would be so helpful.
@@BlackTieBarn Awesome hot and cold scent throw, so easy to use and great glass adhesion for our vessels but just seem to take a lot of time to get the perfect top. I poke, heat, repeat sometimes up to 3/4 times. Also not great in the Australian climate... I can't think what Im doing wrong!
Omg... I have not had any of the issues with 464 as mentioned in this video! I have been making candles since November. Some FO’s may be a challenge with a hot throw, but I quickly resolved that and found that if you follow the guidelines for soy wax recommendations with the suppliers (I have only been using CS) the hot throw (and burn time) are awesome! Follow wicking guidance accordingly as well. I am brand new to this and have NEVER had frosted tops or needed a heat gun... stir a lot and pour at a. Lower temp .... seriously that is it.
For sure. Some people like it and have little issues. But it definitely has more issues that most waxes on average. But all waxes gave pros and cons for sure. :) And you are right, process and testing is important.
I have been using 464 for over a year and I am fed up with it..gone through sooooo many fo's and its so hard to get good HT..and even if the candle came out beautiful in 3 months its full of frosting looks so bad after time ..
I think I probably removed it. It was recommended to me to put it up originally..I felt weird about it and probably took it down. Lol. If you really want you it was just a paypal to wade@blacktiebarn.com Thanks for asking though. :) Happy to help either way
Hi Wade, first of all thank you for your knowledge and for sharing with us all. I've learned a lot from you. Secondly, in your sampling did you use the same wick for all of the waxes when you were comparing them? How did you test them? I'm sort of new at this. Second, I use the soy #10, but want a paraffin or soy/paraffin blend to offer to my customers. Thanks for you help. I haven't tried the 6006, but I'm about for the first time going to do the Problend 600
Hi Katherine. Thank you for the comments. :) And no, I use different wicks based on the wax. Certain wicks work better for certain waxes. Igi 6006 has better HT than PB600 but PB600 is easier to use and wick
Hello ,I’m new and I find it very interesting and fun to make candles and so far I can see u are the most helpful person with the videos to have first knowledge about the product and with out this knowledge you we are not doing it right ‘ a question please the candles I bought in the store doesn’t have a nought smell can I melted and ad fragrance oil but don’t have the same smell as is to the candle I can see u don’t dill with this kind of issues but I can see u have a lot of knowledge and maybe u can be a little help with your answer and what degree I should ad the fragrance since don’t know what type of wax it is ‘ bought a lot and have the same problem but don’t want to throw them out ‘ thanks again for your support
I wouldn't add anything to store bought candles because you wouldn't know the specific wax that is in them. The wicking will also not be right most likely dependon how much you add. Cheap store bought candles have poor through because of several factors (not because they don't have any oil im them). But, for fun you could experiment for sure so they aren't wasted. I wouldn't give it or sell it though! And be careful and monitor the candle.
Thank you for your response your answer help it me a lot , Have a happy New year and thanks for the video's. Keep making more videos ,I find them very helpful.
Hello wade !Thank you for your videos teach us a lot ,I amkeep testing and testing and testing...it is possible that the Bach from same wax could afec the process ?how can fix or handle better?
In a future video, will you talk about evaluating FO? I've learned not to trust OOB, some nasty chemical smells that mellow amazingly in wax. I am also really curious about the FO % science, why the same FO throws amazing at 6% but not as well at 10%. I know there has to be a logic or science behind it but its hard for me to wrap my head around. There is something in the equation that I am missing.
I will definitely add this to list of content to cover! Thank you for the suggestion! The science of fragrance oil is that it really depends on the wqx you are using. Some waxes throw great at 6 or 8% while other waxes, mostly soy, need more usually. And some oils are just stronger fragrances in general so you need less of them compared to lighter scents. Just like in " real life" scents. Imagine baking in your kitchen. Some scents ate just stronfer than others. Same with fragrance oils. But, the science and chemistry of oils is actually fairly complicated. Leave it to the chemists/perfumist/manufacturers. :)
Hello Wade! A huge hello from Singapore! I just started my interest in candle making and wish I had chanced upon this video before I ordered my wax. Would you, by any chance be able to advise on The Candlemaker’s Store’s natural soy wax with 2% additive, please? ( keeping my fingers crossed🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼 I’m kinda feeling a tad jittery after seeing this video and wish I had not missed this! A million thank yous in advance!
Hi and welcome. Thanks for being here and the kind feedback. Regarding your question.. can you post a link to the specific wax you're referring to? They have several similar so I want to be sure. I will tell you I haven't used any of their waxes specifically but can give some feedback on similar wax once I know what it is. :)
Sure. Many of my videos are specifically on problend 600. Here is an example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--CE0gM3ja98.html I don't really use c3 much but definitely have a video on it planned
Hi Wade I have searched high and low for IGI 4627/4630 but it does not appear to be available in the UK. Can you please suggest another as Both Hot and Cold Throw are important to me? There are some kerasoys, CS2 Blended wax, Kerax 4600 to name a few are available but I have not tried them yet and golden wax 464 s readily available. I have found IGI 6006 in a 10 pound block exported from the US. I am testing a candle presently made with soy flakes and the cold throw was amazing but hot throw is very mild. I have moved it to the bathroom as it's a smaller space burning now 2 hours and the same. The burn is beautiful but the hot throw very disappointing.
I purchased a 45lb box of 464 because I go big or go home lol. Well after about 20lbs I decided yep its not for me. Definitely will switch waxes but before I go all out and buy another wax and still learning. Could I possibly buy a paraffin wax and just mix my 464 with it?
@@BlackTieBarn I hadn’t heard of it either but my insomnia took me down a shopping for wax rabbit hole. It’s a soy, beeswax and coconut oil blend. It comes in a pellet form. Well, I hope it’s good because I believe I ordered a big box of it! 😫
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your thoroughness. If you had to choose between the igi6006 and the igi4627, which would it be? It seems as if both have a great HT
Wade? In an 8 ounce tin using 6006 what two wicks would you suggest. I’m going to do my testing I just kinda value your opinion! And it does give a a good place to start. No wooden wicks tho. 💙
Hi Wade! Your videos have been the most helpful! I am so appreciative! I have 2 questions. One, have you ever tried NatureWax C3? I'd love your thoughts. Two. Have you found that purchasing the exact same wax from different vendors to have different outcomes? I feel like the wax I bought from 1 place (even though it's the same) is different than the 1 I bought from another place. Excited for your answer! Thank you!
I only test c3 once years ago and it was just okay for me. As far as same wax from different suppliers. Yes and no. The wax comes from same manufacturer...so yes its the same supplier to supplier unless it's a custom blend. If that was the case it would have a different name. But, there CAN be differences between different lots and batches. Every wax and manufacturer has an "acceptable level of variation" and those can sometimes be noticed batch to batch. Which is why you may notice differences between suppliers (different lots probably).
@@BlackTieBarn Thank you so much for answering so quickly! You're the first one I've reached out to that has actually answered my question! And... nice last name 🤣🤣. Have a great night.
I've been using ProBlend600 and it was great to get used to candle making but I'm just not happy with the lower hot throw. I've been looking into using 6006 to try to help this and boost the HT, but I keep seeing people complaining about 6006 giving them a ton of sooting. Have you had any problems with this? It's one thing if it's just a wicking problem, but I definitely don't want to leave my customers ceilings black!
Thank you! I like a few. Pillar of bliss and pro blend 650 are nice. I also like 50/50 mix of 6006 and 4625. But you can mess with the ratio to your liking.
@@BlackTieBarn Thank you so much! We don't have pillar nor 650 here in Canada and getting it across the border is a lot of $$$ We do have 6006 and 4625, however!
Hi Wade! Super informative video as always. Look forward to your future ones! I was wondering if you have any thoughts about ProBlend 400? Is it comparable to 4627 at all? (From what I can tell it is mostly paraffin). I’ve been mulling over testing a custom blend of soy, coconut, and paraffin. Maybe Midwest Soy/Coconut 1/ProBlend 400. It’s just crazy enough it might work? 🤷🏼♀️ haha we shall see. Custom blending might be a topic for a future video of yours!
Hi Wade can I use 4627 for wax melts in silicone molds? I use 4786 now which is a container wax and works beautifully but I would like more hot throw. Thankyou for the great video!!
Hi Wade! Hope you are doing well with your candles! I’m wondering you are using IGI 4627 at the moment? As I came across comment section about this wax on candle science and I saw quite a few negative feedback on this wax recently, even from customers using this wax for years. Do you think it might be from the manufacturer or because of the seller - in this case is CS didn’t handle their wax good enough when they stock and store them? Thank and hope to get some comments from you ! ☺️
I do not use 4627. Most complaints about this wax is how messy and hard to use it is. It isn't really the fault of the supplier.... its how the wax is made. Packaging options are limited with this wax. The reason many use it is because the HT is second to none. :)
In the old days before they were bought out.... yes. I just received a sample of it now that they have a new Manufacturer again. Will definitely get to it when I get time! Thanks so much for being here!
@@BlackTieBarn Any update with the Ecosoya Advanced? I like the wax a lot (though does sweat). I'm in the testing stages and trying to find the right wick and size because it's hanging up on the sides. I've tried LX, Eco, HTP, CD and soon to test Premier 700 in a 11oz Libbey Heavy Base Tumbler. I hope the Premier 700 works cuz I'm running out of wicks to test.
@@BlackTieBarn In addition to my previous post, I've added Stearic Acid to the wax and it really helps with the burn and throw. I don't know much about additives, can you make a video on additives?
@@BlackTieBarn Ahhhh.... Ironically enough we have a store called Tuesday morning in Ohio, as well. What state are you guys in again? I’ll have to check Tuesday Morning. Chances are slim to none though considering they get one offs quite a bit. Very similar to Homegoods.... Meaning if you see it, snatch it up or else it will be gone next time you do visit. LOL.
@@BlackTieBarn I also left a comment on one of your other videos asking if you could provide the link to the straight sided jars and lids that you use? 😜
Yep. When I get a chance to get on computer, I'll respond to that one. Easier from computer than phone when responding to lots of comments and providing links. :)
Hi Wade! Quick question. I’ve just started using IGI 4630 and it’s been doing so well until very recently. I’m getting sinkholes around my wicks. How do I fix that?? Help meeee!
Sometimes unavailable since wax shrinks as it cools. It will usually be worse in jars that are taller. A quick hut with the heat gun on low should level it out. Also experiment with different pour Temps. Sometimes lower poor temp can minimize shrinkage
Thank you so much for the great information! You mentioned that soy wax could be marketed as organic. But is there an organic type of wax? What do you mean by organic?
It's a generic term which is why people use it. Most materials originate from organic matter so it doesn't necessarily mean anything. But yes there are 100% soy or organic waxes. But they generally have many more issues when making candles
Hi Wade! I know it’s an old video, but I was wondering if you had a chance to experiment with coconut waxes since? I’m particularly interested in coconut apricot as I have been using this wax for over a year and absolutely love it, however, it’s out of stock constantly and I’m thinking if Joy wax would be a good alternative. I’m interested in your opinion if you had a chance to compare two of them in terms of hot throw as the aesthetics and the CT are great in both.
Hi Kate! Actually, I am just starting a video series on deep dives into several wax types. Basically the hunt for the perfect candles with each wax. Which means I'll be also testing coco apricot as well although I haven't yet. Not sure when, but it is planned at some point. I'll also be doing another wax compare video. I'll do my best to get those waxes involved. I need to get a sample of coco apricot. Which one are you using? I'll see if I can get a couple samples from suppliers for the channel. Sorry I don't have an answer for you at the moment though. :/
@@BlackTieBarn I appreciate your response very much, Wade! I’m using Coco Apricot from Wooden Wick Co. and it’s believed in coconut wax community (although WW claims otherwise) that this wax is the same coconut apricot (also known as Ceda Serica) as sold by a few other suppliers, such as Sixteen Seventeen (Lux Coconut Apricot wax), Blue Lotus, Porter Candle Supply, Northwood. It would be wonderful if you could include coco apricot in your analysis, I’m looking forward to your new video series! On a sad note, it looks like the prices of all waxes will sky rocket pretty soon, making it even more difficult to choose the right one, therefore I’m looking for more economical alternatives, curious about joy and Pro blend 600 🤔
@@Katya1086 Hi Kate ✋🏻I’ve read your questions to this video and currently I’m looking for the answers on them as well. Were you able to figure out which coconut wax brand is the best? I guess you’re from Russia, is it still possible to ship goods from US?
@@BlackTieBarn thank you so much. I actually have a coconut/soy/palm wax from candles and supplies and I get smooth tops every time...just have a hard time with the wicks
Would you say that a coco soy blend is great for tin candles? How does the scent throw work? I want a wax that has both good CT+HT but i don’t want any sort of chemicals involved. I wouldn’t feel great giving those to family and friends especially since I live a holistic lifestyle.
Hi. I'm not real sure what you mean about chemicals or waxes you wouldn't feel comfortable giving away. The majority of waxes are non toxic, whether its soy, coconut, paraffin, etc. Most of the talk about toxicity isn't true for the majority of waxes. We are talking about food grade paraffin. No worse than soy, etc. It's still the most popular wax by far. The biggest issue in candles is the fragrance oil ... not the wax. Fragrance oils are also safe when used correctly and safe in candles .. but they are still a chemical/man-made if that makes sense. That doesn't make them bad to use though. But to your question about coconut soy wax blend, you can use in a tin just fine. The beat HT typically will include paraffin but also carefully selecting fragrance oils. And proper wick for whatever wax you choose. Jus a heads up though.... most blends have small amounts of paraffin as well to stabilize them. Including most coconut soy waxes.
@@BlackTieBarn I’ve read something about that but I’ve also heard that a lot of them weren’t “food grade”. Thanks for responding! Your videos have been really helpful!!
@@mxj28 There are certainly some that are not. Many of the mycocrystaliine and mottling waxes are not. Now, dont get me wrong... food-grade paraffin doesn't mean you should eat it.... but you shouldn't eat soy wax either. Lol. The main point is.... the majority of the candle waxes on the market today are safe to use. Fragrance oils are worse than waxes... but again, they are safe when used properly as well. Our vehicles and public transportation is worse than all of this. Lol. And thank you very much for the kind words. I appreciate that and glad you are enjoying the channel. :)
@@BlackTieBarn Hahaha! I definitely do not plan on eating any wax. But I’d assume food grade paraffin wax is better for candles. More safe, when burned anyway. Although we can never fully eliminate toxins, I’d like to help contribute to the world and try not to use as many chemicals in my candles. One step at a time. :) You’re welcome - I’ve spent the past 2 weeks going through your videos and probably forgot to like them along the way but I’ll definitely try to remember to do so from now on. I’m not on social media and don’t use electronics much so with all the constant updates and such, I’m always lost. But please, continue to share your knowledge because it’s been a blessing and an inspiration to individuals like myself.
It definitely could but I wouldn't add much. Its awful hard. It's not a bad idea if your wanting straight paraffin. But many mix it with 6006 instead. It's still soft but will raise the melt point up some as it's higher than 4627. It all depends how much firmer you are wanting to make it. :) It would affect the throw a bit as 4627 throw is better than the others naturally. But it shouldn't be dramatic.
@@BlackTieBarn I just mixed 90% 6006 and 10% 4625 for melts and that little bit gave me the crack-ability I was looking for. I'll try a similar ratio with 4627 and see what happens. Thanks for responding so quickly.
I heard you talk about stearic acid before.. I also saw an emulsifier mix that was similiar.. I LOVE my C3 soy wax but the hot throw is almost non existent (cold seems fine)... do you think adding the stearic acid or an emulsifier will help retain the scent? I previously tried a 444 wax but did not care for the appearance just like you mentioned for the 464... I have the 464 on order and should get it soon just to try another one. I don't want to give up on all soy! I use EOs. Any advice would be great thank you! Thanks for the tip on gel packs too.. I have been worried about the low melt points and shipping. I'm gunna test shipping to my mom in AZ first 😃 I feel like a low point is necessary for me as I'm using EOs. You're videos are SUPER helpful BTW thanks for all you do!!
Hi Rachael. I'll try to help a little but the combination of all soy and EOs is an uphill battle in terms of HT. EOs aren't made or designed for candles so they often don't burn or throw well. So those are hit or miss. As far as C3.... or any soy for that matter. You could try using a little vybar 260. Somewhere between 1.5 and 3 grams per pound. Basically up to 1%. That isn't an official recommendation or anything snd it isn't necessarily designed to help with HT. But sometimes it seems to. It will also help raise the melt point of your wax a few degrees which may help a tad for shipping. But I don't currently use c3, 464, or 444 myself.... socmy advice on those specifically is limited.
@@BlackTieBarn thank you for the tips! I was trying to stay away from synthetic which I believe vybar is but it has been a consideration. After binging on more of your videos 😆 I may reconsider a para/soy like that Joy naturals... or I've heard maybe adding a bit of parrafin votive wax to 100% soy? I too have been tricked i think into soy being cleaner than parrafin which is my goal (clean burning) .. lots of varying thoughts on that! EOs definitely are an uphill battle.. I'll be doing more research on natural fragrance oils too but I don't want the perfume scents from regular fragrance oils. 🤷♀️
Yah I totally understand. And I don't want you think I was encouraging to not go natural. Just that it's tougher to get the results you are after is all
Hello.....I just came across coconut-apricot wax in the candle group I am in and apparently it is fairly new. What do you think of this wax? I have been using 464 soy but am struggling with scent throw. I like staying natural or not with paraffin and heard of this wax.
Hi Brenda. I haven't used it yet mostly because I'm not super fond of apricot or coconut waxes. I don't think they offer much of an advantage. But I plan to sample it soon. I'll post a video when I have some experience with it. :)
494 - Flaming Candls and several other places PoB - Natures Garden PB 650 - Flaming candle 6006 and 4625... several places including candle science I am going to be reviewing kits in near future but I know natures garden sells one
Wade ty for all of your info. Just discovered you with your video with Jeff. Great information. In your opinion do you think 6006 is the best to use for shipped candles in the summer or do you have any other preferences? I have mostly use joy since I sell locally but I live in Florida and want to develop an online presence but shipping will be an issue in this heat. Ty!
It can be tough to shipping any in high heat. 6006 has a melt point of 130+ though which is higher than most other parasoy or soy waxes, etc. Its definitely better than 464 or probldnd 600 for example. It could still potentially have problems but less than others. Insulating tour candles in the box can help as well. Just experiment with different techniques. Leave a box like you'd ship it, out on your patio for a while in direct sun as a test. :)
Hello, Thank you for so much great information. I am hoping you can help me.. I am at a loss. I use 4627 Comfort Blend in 8oz Silver tins and generally 10% FO. I can not wick this to save my life. I am using LX wicks and have tried LX18, 20, 22 as well as CD 18, 20 and Eco 6,8,10 ughh Do you have any suggestions on wicking and also if I was to add 30% Soy 444 to the 4627 would that give me pretty much the same blend as 6006? Would that be easier to wick or would it be bad for my throw? Sorry I am really stuck
Hey Tammy. So the recommend load FO amount for 4627 is more in the 6-8% range. It's HT is so incredible it doesn't need more than that. It's also a viscous wax so adding too much FO can make wicking a nightmare which may be the struggle you are having. I'd drop your fo to 8% and see if it helps at all. I don't use the wax myself much anymore but plan to do more testing again when I can. Just a bit backed up right now. As far as mizing with 464 or 444, I wouldn't say it will be just 6006 perse, but it will be a parasoy. I don't think it will help wicking much though
@@BlackTieBarn Thank you I did mix yesterday 75% 4627 and 25% Soy I think I like the white creamy color from the soy but we will see how wicking goes in a few day. If I have trouble wicking I will try the 8%. Thank you !
Thanks for the great video. I am looking for the wax for piping and frosting whipped wax.(for shipping) Which wax do you suggest? And do you know the ratio of IGI 6028? Or is it easy to blend(soy¶) own my own? I really need to know about these type of wax but can't find informations. Thanks
Hey Jenna. I have never used 6028 and not really familiar with it. Sorry. :/ In regards to piping or whipping wax. Any soft soy, some soft paraffin, and coco soys are good. I don't do any piping myself. But I know people who have used 464, 444, c3, c6, and joy wax before. Hope that helps.
Is burn time factored in here? I would think that would be as important as the other categories. There’s a new candle maker on here that’s making tons of money & claims her candles burn for 72 hours. She uses the soy wax.
It definitely can be. I made it so that a maker can use whatever factors are most important to them. I've seen 72 hour burns before with soy as well but it depends on size and number of wicks too
Is there a specific type of wax that’s better for those with migraines? Some of it may be scent related but I’ve been wanting to start making candles but haven’t even known where to start.
Not really. Because everyone has different sensitivities. For example, anyone allergic to soy should use spy. SO it just depends. Most migrains or sensitivities are to the FOs though
@@BlackTieBarn That's what I wondered too which means it's a guessing and trial and error thing. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it! Your videos are great. :)
Hey there I am someone who gets migraines from FOs. i’ve noticed that cheap FOs from hobby stores almost always set me off no matter the fragrance. I know a couple of others who get migraines from fragrances as well and we all have this in common- fresh, masculine, musky, or floral scents often trigger them. Fruity, sweet, or bakery type scents are usually safest. That’s just a small pool of people who get them overall though. I haven’t found any of us to be sensitive to the wax- but we can be to the smoke or soot- so that would be a consideration too. Hope this helps a bit!
Oh shoot is it really??? Well darn, I had it set correctly at one point. I'll correct it when I can. In the meantime, go ahead and request access. That will be quicker! 😁 Sorry about that!
Need to test it a bit more. Not something I use at the moment. Hoping to sample again soon. The only suppliers I am aware of are so far from me thst the shipping is pretty insane. My limited testing a couple years ago was thst it was okay. Greasy, soft and not the easiest to sick. But the throw was fine (better than most soys).
@@BlackTieBarn super soft. Not sure I like it as much as joy. But I don’t like using anything with paraffin. Mixing soy and coconut for now and it’s working out.
Yep. I have wood wicked 6006 candles. Like all waxes (that aren't 100% paraffin), testing FOs is super important. Not all FOs work well in all waxes. That being said, most work well in 6006. Also give them a few days before testing. Lastly. Have others test them too to make sure it's not just you not noticing weak HT. :)
Thank you for your reply. I’m currently testing wooden wicks from wooden wick co. I kind of think it’s the wick at this point, because the wick flame is too high. Thank you so much for this video.
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