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5 Power Apps Best Practices for Early Makers 

Shane Young
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You like Power Apps Best practices so I have five of them all for my early builders and makers. best practices include:
* The age old debate: Patch vs. Submit form
* What is the best data source?
* Building smaller apps.
* Is beauty really in the eye of the beholder?
* Choose your words carefully!
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0:00 Power Apps Best Practices
1:45 Don't make one giant app
4:41 Prefer Patch, not Forms
6:52 Function over form
8:17 Don't use reserved or common words for variables or columns!
10:08 Dataverse is the best data source if you have a license.
Power Apps Consulting and training at www.PowerApps911.com

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@ShaneC0271
@ShaneC0271 Год назад
Excellent tips. I have this conversation with my users all the time... "yes, the app looks ugly right now, but once we're done testing and have it working properly, I'll go back and make it pretty"
@GarryWatson111
@GarryWatson111 Год назад
Shane, these are 5 tremendous points. Thank you for sharing. I am not great on ‘prettyfying’ apps, so having it working, intuitive and easy to extend is my aim. Don’t stop your good work mate.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@reconranger1370
@reconranger1370 Год назад
As always great video Shane. We're working on getting a premium license for dataverse. As you can imagine, it is pretty expensive for a large company like American Airlines.
@RD-gp1mu
@RD-gp1mu Год назад
Oh I so understand your pain points: function always over form, reserved words, spaces, dataverse!! :)
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Yes! Thank you!
@miragliag
@miragliag Год назад
Thanks! With Power Apps for Teams you have Dataverse included withouth Premium Licence 🎉
@Liam-fb4tu
@Liam-fb4tu Год назад
Thanks so much Shane, signed up for the course a month ago and really enjoying all your content in it. Trying to replicate something similar to your expense app
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Fantastic Liam! I hope you are having a great day.
@rikerorg
@rikerorg Год назад
Great video as always Shane. You are the real MVP!
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I appreciate that!
@johnfromireland7551
@johnfromireland7551 Год назад
HA ha ha. I love spaces too! Especially the ones between words. 😅
@oluwatobiyusuf
@oluwatobiyusuf Год назад
Thank you Shane for these awesome tips
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Always happy to help you ☺️
@365g
@365g Год назад
Cheers for sharing - great tips 👍 1 is very topical for me at the minute for an ongoing build. It's sitting at 23 datasources and 15 screens and I'm noticing it's starting to get a little slower opening in edit... 'shouldn't' get much bigger though, so I'm going to persevere... for now 😅
@angrybatvoice
@angrybatvoice Год назад
Good reminders even for seasoned makers!
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Thanks. Hope all is well with you. :)
@TiberiuGociu
@TiberiuGociu Год назад
Like the game of Go (WeiQi) ... It's recommended to go back to the roots! Thanks for this!
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
You're welcome! One of my kids loves penguins so nice photo. 😎😎
@ahutchinsbyu
@ahutchinsbyu Год назад
Thanks for the tips! I've reached the point where I find myself preferring patch vs forms. One of the conveniences of forms is that is becomes scrollable when you add more fields. In those situations where there are a lot of controls/data cards, would you use the scrollable screen control, containers, or use multiple screens?
@tvenkatesh81
@tvenkatesh81 Год назад
Hi Shane when we need multiple screen for a app, do you still say using form is not recommended ? I have about 10 tables for my app and about 20 columns in each list. If i do not use forms , i need to drag and set multiple controls also displaying data back from SharePoint is easier on forms. Can you advise of there a better way to control with patch in such scenarios ?
@quitman3rd
@quitman3rd Год назад
Thank you for doing these videos
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
My pleasure! Thanks for watching. :)
@josecarvajal9201
@josecarvajal9201 Год назад
Tks.. Really interesting...
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@Hoserzzz
@Hoserzzz Год назад
Hey Shane, love the content. I'm wondering if you have any features you can think of that may help me. I'm currently developing a Center of Excellence for my company (we focus mostly on ERP migrations for smaller municipalities), including apps for our RAID log, an app that collects meeting minutes and automatically saves and mails out a formatted word document with those notes, and a document quick-search using a custom connector to SharePoint. At this point, I'm sort of running out of ideas, but I'm in no way an expert. I'm hoping you have some advanced features ideas that may help me add some more useful features to our CoE.
@djpowerage
@djpowerage Год назад
Shane, do you think it is better to have 1 environment for 1 app, especially if that app has 10 tables, or throw all tables to all apps in the one environment?
@divyasree1792
@divyasree1792 Год назад
Hi Shane, Is there any way to delete desktop flows through powershell or powerautomate?
@rohanshaw1827
@rohanshaw1827 Год назад
Hi Shane, Great video as always!! Wish you were in Australia so I could take some live courses with you! 🛫
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I would love to come to Australia. Maybe one day. Our live classes are taught online and we have had a few people from your part of the world take them. Just requires some really early mornings. :) training.powerapps911.com/collections/live
@tristangeoffroy9286
@tristangeoffroy9286 Год назад
Thank you, always good to remind. Would you have the same advise set to ensure/improve flow performance. My flow take ages compare to same process in vba Excel.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I definitely don't build giant flows but their size doesn't usually cause challenges. Usually with flows it is too many API calls. 😑
@janpotyka5986
@janpotyka5986 Год назад
Amazing vids, thank you Shane!! Question about making multiple smaller apps vs ONE GIANT one: What if you're looking to minimize Licensing costs? A one app as a Suite (along the lines of Project Operations in D365) would be beneficial (while potentially a bit lazy). Any suggestions for figuring out the MS Licensing Arcana?
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Hey Jan - Licensing does sometimes lead to making decisions we don't like. I dont have any silver bullets here for you. Kind of a just have to compare the options and make the best decision for you.
@GroverParkGeorge
@GroverParkGeorge Год назад
Adopt KISS as a first principle. Then see how you can simplify things as you go. Take a final pass through the project to remove unnecessary code and clutter.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I like it George! 👍
@Worrelpa
@Worrelpa Год назад
Right with you on the pretty apps. When I get asked to make cosmetic changes to an app that add no value it feels such a waste of time.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
We are the same Phil. 🥰 Maybe it is because we are already so good looking? 😜
@stuartduncan2772
@stuartduncan2772 Год назад
I work with a group of people who only see what is put in front of them.I've had projects dismissed immediately because a border was the wrong colour. If they have no imagination, it is impossible to given them a functional but visually incomplete app because they are stupid and don't appreciate the work that goes on in the background to deliver the functionality that the app needs. The moral: Know your audience.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Sorry Stuart for your troubles but a good tip. 😎
@ramisolipe7001
@ramisolipe7001 Год назад
thanks for your valuable videos . I just want to share my experience, one time i have used Sharepoint as a data source , and then I exported the data which came from powerapps to CSV , but unfortunately the data looked like HTML , then I made new sharepoint list which coming from excel , and somehow it worked ,so somehow the excel is just good . Sorry for the bad coherence :( .
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Glad it worked for you. :)
@johanynavarro8065
@johanynavarro8065 Год назад
Legend!!! What would you think of having 2 or more forms on the same screen, for instance, form1 for the text columns and form2 for date columns, then in form1.OnSuccess we write submitform(form2)... Don't be mad at me I haven't done it 😁😁 it came to my mind watching this video... Keep it up buddy
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
You can do it. Sounds terrible but should work. :)
@ThePayanazo
@ThePayanazo Год назад
Hi Shane, just a quick note, does patch function now allows to include attachments to a list?
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Patch doesn't have a way to do Attachments. :( You would need to do something like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K74UFYgrKB4.html
@Situayo
@Situayo Год назад
Finally found a job where they gonna let me build stuff on power platform all day.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Awesome! Enjoy it. 😎
@manil4621
@manil4621 Год назад
Hey Shane can you do a video end to end offline mode app using guid function also
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I think this video did that? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NwbqdA9j8Ek.html
@DataisKing
@DataisKing Год назад
Thanks for the tips Shane. I have created a Power App in Teams and I heard that I shouldn't be using components in Teams. Is this true?
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I haven't heard you shouldn't use components, but I do know component libraries don't work. Hmmm
@moisestatis5418
@moisestatis5418 Год назад
Shane, thank you so much for those great tips. Your videos are a fun way to learn Power Apps. I hear so many times that Excel is te worse data base source. It breaks my heart. I am a novice so I know you guys are right. I know nothing about other data sources like Dataverse or SQL. Excel allows me to do dynamic calculations of dates and other thing which I dont know I can or cannot do in other data sources. I beleive Sharepoint is not as dynamic as Excel. Why or What are the reasons Excel is the ugly duck as data source? Thanks again.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I made a whole video. 😎 QTT - Power Apps Excel is a terrible data source ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RtmZM3tm2Zs.html
@moisestatis5418
@moisestatis5418 Год назад
@@ShanesCows thanks Shane for the link. I'll watch it.
@JenMayB
@JenMayB Год назад
Re dataverse - for a large org (gov agency) - the hundreds who will use the form: will they need dataverse license/access?
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Yes. If DataVerse is the datasource it makes the app premium. Then every user of the app will need a premium license.
@JenMayB
@JenMayB Год назад
@@ShanesCows thank you!
@simon77809
@simon77809 Год назад
I get the dont build too big an app, I thought that might be the case, but have you noticed that with Native apps, MS are recommending bundling apps together ? Considering its just a wrapper over the same web code, sounds like advice to take with a pinch of salt 🙂
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
I think since they are bundled but separate it would be okay. But I haven't dug into the wrapper stuff at all... yet. :)
@gatskopsoftware8357
@gatskopsoftware8357 Год назад
Thanks let me give you a challenge display version history of a dataverse database in a canvas app.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Wow. I haven't tried that one before. Sounds no fun.
@annaradionova1894
@annaradionova1894 Год назад
Amazing video, thank you for sharing! How can a person who wants to learn power apps by creating something simple obtain a license? Maybe there is a way to create a free account with power apps?
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Anna check out the community plan powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/communityplan/
@SA-kt3wt
@SA-kt3wt Год назад
Unfortunately to add, if your ICT team allows Box rather than SharePoint or OneDrive, Excel is the only data source option!
@shanebaxter4001
@shanebaxter4001 Год назад
This is unwatchable. You are constantly blinking like you are sending morse code.
@ShanesCows
@ShanesCows Год назад
Put a post note over my face? I was pretty sick when I made the video I guess that was a side effect. You are the first to say anything. Sorry
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