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It's fun enough until you reach PVP level, then it's not so much fun when someone else kills you for their own entertainment or to raid the resources you accumulated.
Can you get your sponsor, scopely, to explain to us Star Trek fanboys why the intrepid in the game doesn’t look in any way shape or form like an intrepid class? We’re all deeply offended. I’ve tried to let this one go, but it keeps me up at night and is affecting my personal relationships.
Fun fact: That original Ambassador class design for the Enterprise C is now used in Star Trek Online as a variant of the Ambassador and is a tier 6 ship known as the Narendra class.
Fun fact the zumwalts was canceled because the ammunition for its main guns would’ve cost the entire navy budget to fill one ship’s magazines full of ammo
@@theborgqueen6891 That's actually where I got it. Running it on my temporal agent character. That ship is a beast. I was shocked to see in this video that it was the original design for the Ambassador class.
@@theborgqueen6891 Been there my friend. I was just lucky enough for the charity pack to hit while I had a little extra. That'll probably be the last thing I buy for a while though. lol
@@theborgqueen6891 I'm doing the same thing. I'm f2p as well, but have bought a few things here and there. I have the T5 Odyssey ship pack I bought back when it first came out years ago. I got the T5-U upgrade for it today so it can somewhat keep pace with my T6 ships.
money doesn't exist for civilians but for governments its still in effect due to trade agreements. Or as the Ferangi refer to it as the Great Material Continuum
@@Erin-Thor Energy Credits... You can either trade them or use them on the Markets but what they really do is power devices such as the Replicators and Holodeck , Recreational-Teleporters , and other Essentials. Even though the units are not Exclusively powered by Energy Credits, without Energy Credits they do not function.
I think that unused Enterprise C concept looks gorgeous! Never seen it before. It looks much better than the actual model in my opinion... What a bummer that it didn't got used.
The TV 1701-C was always a cheap thrown-together model. It was a mater of time and costs. The Probert 1701-C was always a great design, more so than the 1701-D IMHO.
One of the other unused Voyager concept ships has become the Grissom class in Star Trek Online. Star Trek Online has gotten quite a few ships based on unused ship designs. Including the Aventine and Valiant. The Buran is similar to the Perseverance class.
I've never liked the pylons and nacelles on fed ships, they look like big weak spots. I like the Defiant class and I can't help but like the Akira class.(it has 15 torpedo tubes)
Fair enough plenty of nacelles have come off in battle . But next generation was more about the golden age where there was not much war very little conflict .
I think it's more about warp field efficiency and stability. The warp coils are very complex and dense/heavy metal structures, weighing 10's of thousands of tons and needing to be aligned perfectly. They actually make up a significant portion of the ships total weight. After all, the warp field has to create a bubble around the ship, and the bubble is also generally larger than the ship, probably to combat instabilities. So making the nacelle's further apart, while seemingly less efficient, could actually be more efficient, by creating a larger warp field with less power. Otherwise the only way to extend the bubble more would be to increase the power. And obviously, the less stuff in between the coils, the more efficient the warp coils likely operate. Another factor is keeping heat generated by the warp coils away from the ship. Sure they can do it without huge distances, but it would require more engineering, shielding, etc. So while they are weakpoints, they're technically no weaker than if they were on a streamlined body, because taking a direct hit to the warp system, whether it's on a nacelle or attached to a body, would still result in the same basic effect of disabling the warp system. If your enemy is going to shoot your nacelle off, you'll be more maneuverable with it off, and then can later reattach it. Where if your enemy damages your nacelle built into the body, you'll still have that extra weight, along with potentially having your shielding from the nacelles compromised, making it impossible to go to warp anyways. When you look at ships like the defiant, technically it did have nacelles, just hidden by the overall shape of the structure. It was a fighting ship too though, so protecting the warp coils would also be worth the extra effort. When we're talking about bigger ships, it could take a lot more mass to cover up those warp coils and shield them, making them far less efficient. And as for the weight of the nacelles, I'd imagine that if you took a torpedo and it hit an attached warp coil, it could potentially cause tons of damage, because again, those warp coils are super dense and heavy metal. They're not just some casted or machined metal, they're specially made to be extremely dense, which makes them extremely heavy. Now imagine one of those blown loose and knocking around inside of your ship. The thing could tear through multiple decks. And if it's not under any gravity and just floating, even moving your ship could result in you impacting the warp coil debris inside of the section that just got torn apart. So overall, it just seems safer to have warp coils a good distance away from the main body of the ship. When it comes down to it, even ships that seem to have streamline warp coils, are really no different in principle than the federation, the difference is almost entirely aesthetics. Like again, with the defiant. It's nacelles weren't actually attached, just the armor over the nacelles made it appear that they were attached, although it did still need extra shielding and other engineering stuff to make those nacelles work with the ships design. Warp coil designs are all tailored to the specific ship they go on. You can't just interchange them. They're designed around the proper geometry needed to make the appropriate warp bubble that will encase that ship, despite interference from the design of the body. Without those complex considerations, a stable warp field would be impossible.
The Enterprise-C-Concept looks great. And i loved the Aventine, since i saw it on one of the book covers. It blew my mind when i saw it as an eaglemoss-model, back in 2019... had to buy it in an instant.
The Voyager concept is a sort of odd. The Engineering hull has elements of an upscaled runabout (top and pylons). The nacelles remind me of a cross between upside sovereign with a bit of Constitution-refit. I don't think it would have gone over as well as Sternbach thought.
8m22s The Emmet Till - the Deflector dish is the same design used on the USS Endurance model by Bill Krause. I think this design was before the Endurance model.
Actually there are 3 Zumwalt class destroyers, and the hull design will probably be used in the ship that will replace the Ticonderoga class Aegis cruiser.
@Kenneth Draper Not quite. The Zumwalt is the only ship accepted and in operation. The other two are not. The second, Monsoor, is still in the process of being fitted out. The third, Lyndon Johnson, is still being built.
according to the Star Trek Destiny novels, which I've read quite a few times, Dax was not the original commander officer.....they tangled with a cube and lost their commander and XO, thus, Dax took over.
I kitbashed a Starfleet ship out of a model of the Northrop B-35/B-49 flying wing using warp nacelles and bridge parts from 1/1400 scale Ambassador class (Ent-C) AMT model and a 1:144 scale B-49. Also kitbashed a ship from Revel 1/72 scale Arado 555 and 1/1000 scale Enterprise D nacelles to make a corvette sized ship in the organic styling of the Galaxy class era.
Love the vid, thanks! I always wondered why we never saw any Fighter/PT Boat class vehicles in Star Trek...? Small, fast, hard to hit torpedo boats, maybe with gatling-style phasers? Really liked the point-defense weapons in the Abramsverse, too.
In Star Trek Online, The Cestus Class Frigate is used as the ships the Enterprise-J carries for combat. It is quite funny that the inspiration for part of the J is now used as carrier pets in battle in game xD
I'm seeing a recurring problem where people design a starfleet ship that doesn't look like a starfleet ship and then it gets rejected. Who could have seen that coming?!
Love that ad for the game in the middle of the vid. Cardassian vessel goes KABOOM! Geordi says “great! We’ve scared them off!” Me, “yeah, I’m sure they were really scared as they were blowing dafuq up…”🤫😬
Pretty sure the Emit Till class lives on in the STO Designs of the Manticore and Chimera class ships, which are some of the best looking in star trek online for federation mind you. As for the game itself, it might have lootboxes like fleet command but at least it remains free to play from start to finish and gives you much better control of your ship, I'd advise playing that instead.
The Altair is possibly one of the most impractically designed ships I've ever seen in the Star Trek franchise. Not only does it look like it would snap into pieces under any kind of stress, just imagine you have to travel from one section of the ship to any other section of the ship: NOTHING is close to anything else, unless it's immediately next door. It's already bad enough having to travel from the engineering section to the nacelles, could you imagine the marathon you'd have to run just to get to work every day, let alone under emergency situations when you had to get somewhere ASAP? Besides, from a tactical standpoint, there's very little protecting the inner sections of the ship from the outside, so if a section gets fragged with a hull breach, good luck trying to get past it without a space suit, whereas thicker ships would have ways to bypass it.
I was drinking when you said "big throbbing phalic object"... I missed about 5 minutes of your video as I rushed to dry off my laptop. Thanks your big throbbing phalic object!
That history of the Ambassador Class design fits with my feeling that the end product in some ways looks more like a futuristic throwback to the Constitution than it does a blend of Excelsior and Galaxy. I guess that is down to things like the more rounded engineering hull.
Star Trek Ships NX Class, NX Refit Class, USS Intrepid Type Class, USS J Class, Y Class, USS Crossfield Class, USS Walker Class, USS Cardenas Class, USS Engle Class, USS Hoover Class, USS Hiawatha Type, USS Magee Class, USS Malachowski Class, USS Nimitz Class, USS Shepard Class, USS Helios Class, USS NCIA-93 Type Class, USS Nimrod Class, USS Festoon Type Class, Medium-sized two-nacelled Type deploying drones Class, Large-sized four-nacelled Type Class, Drone ship, USS Valiant Class, USS Newton Type Class, USS Mayflower Class, USS Kobayahi Maru Type Class, USS Daedalus Class, USS Franklin Class, USS Antares Type Class, USS Vengeance Class, USS Sydney Class, USS Oberth Class, USS Curry Type Class, USS Miranda Class, USS Miranda II Class, USS Miranda III Class, USS Bradford Type Class, USS Steamrunner Class, USS Lantree Class, USS Soyuz Class, USS Antares Class, USS Norkova Type Class, USS Xhosa Type Class, USS Talarian Batris Type Class, Sublight Freighter, Petarian Xhosa, USS Excelsior Class, USS Excelsior Refit Class, USS Excelsior study I Class, USS Excelsior 4-nacelled study I Class, USS Excelsior 4-nacelled study II Class, USS Excelsior vaeiant 1 Class, USS Constellation Class, Class 9 cargo vessel, USS Deneva Class, Bajoran Freighter Type, Bajoran Freighters Type 1, Bajoran Freighters Type 2, Bajoran Impulse Ship, USS Cheyenne Class, USS Raven Type Class, Maquis Raider I Class, Maquis Raider II Class, USS Defiant Class, USS Akira Class, USS Saber Class, USS Norway Class, USS Prometheus Class, USS Delta Fleyr Type Impostor, USS NX-01-A Class, USS Sovereign Class, USS Sovereign Class Variations, USS Olympic Class, USS Kaplan F17, USS Curiosity Class, USS Inquiry Class, etc
a ship class doesnt start with a prefix like USS. its sovereign class, galaxy class, galaxy-x etc etc no need for USS in any of these classes. the USS is part of the serialization, just like NX is part of serialization for the prototype models, the bench testers. the Prometheus class on voyager for example, was a brand new ship design it did NOT have the USS prefix, it had the registry number NX-59650 (on the outside) and NX-74913 on the inside, and comemorative plaque, because set designers and ship designers had terrible communication. the NX-A class was a refit that included the secondary hull, and was actually called the columbia class, after the second ship built in the warp 5 program. the NX refit wasnt a "class" either.
Battlestar Galactica ships Nova Class Battlestar tos, Ares Class Battlestar tos, Nova Class Battlestar bsg, Valkyrie-type Battlestar, Orion-class battlestar, Galactica-type Battlestar, Mercury Class Battlestar, Ares Class Battlestar, Jupiter Class Battlestar, Odin Class Battlestar, etc
The first time I ever saw the U.S.S. Altair was in a video I saw that was about the history of the U.S.S. Enterprise and every ship that carried the name from the NX Class all the way to the Universe Class even though it wasn't mentioned by name it was just a flyby look of the ship.
I love the Aventine. Though it had to grow on me for a bit. I had a friend that had an old Star Trek rpg and he home brewed a few rules base on conversions from sources material. My character was given command of a Vesta(USS Aventine) class ship. USS Horatio.
The variant of Voyager with sweet they should have kept that one. As for my favorite though that had to be that Avent or whatever it was that thing just spoke love me while I kick your ass. Beautiful ship design I'd love to see it on screen.
I would have preferred the sternbach voyager concept (the one without the fin). Saw it in the technical book before voyager was even filmed and thought it looked wonderful with the runabout design. Still do.
6:50 The ship serves as a test bed for Quantum Slipstream Drive in the year 2380. You know the thing that did THIS to Voyager... (CRASH) But I guess they ironed out some of the kinks by 2380. ...... Huh?
Enterprise " J' . So little is shown of her that my curiosity it peaked, Being a 60 year old "Trekkie" from the first of the first, I would like to see what they can do with her. Thank you and God Bless from Florida.
According to Doug the Enterprise J was basically a city in space. And the first time the Federation used detached nacelles. It also had a "virtual" bridge that you plug into (like the Matrix), and doesn't fly but rather jumps between locations and dimensions. (yeah: exactly like Discovery did 15 years later)
I hate to point this out but as a history buff I need to correct the fact that emmett till was specifically lynched because he supposedly whistled at a white woman, not solely because of his race.
Aventine Class ftw! Awesome ship with alot of nice tech and upgrades and sweet Ezri as Captain, what would you want more? ;) got the original and the T6 Upgrade in STO (not to mention that they are awesome for the tour de galaxy mission with that 2 console drive set)^^
About your ad for "Star Trek: Starfleet Command", which you state, " is for both iOS and Android", is not, in fact for Android. When I tried to use the QR Code, my Android phone said that, "the game was not compatible with my device". So, I tried the code in the description and got the same results. Finally, I went through my phone's "Play Store", and got the same results. Possibly it works in England, buy here in the United States, it doesn't work for Android devices. When I brought up the company's site on the computer, in fact, it said that it was only good for iOS phones and iPads, and showed screenshots from both devices.
The reason I think the third ship in this video was rejected is because the likeness to Sona fleet ship design and did not have a starfleet classic saucer shape at all. even the defiant has a saucer shape in it that helped it's design get excepted!
... the first one is incorrect. The Probert design you show was a proof of concept he made before TNG began production, which would later be adapted and modified to suit the wishes and needs of the production to become the Enterprise-D. They then just stuck the original design on the wall as a potential C, while never really having any plans to show it. When the time came to actually design the -C, that is when Sternbach had to merge the ideas, creating the Ambassador-class we would all become more familiar with, using elements from the original design that didn't appear on the -D
So why is that incorrect? Thats basically what we said. Probert did the original design and then when they actually came to use it in an episode they made modifications
@@GenerationFilms No, you said the Probert design came after the design of the -D, creating it by merging the B and D together. The Probert design came BEFORE designing the -D, becoming the basis they used for creating the -D in the first place. You guys got the timeline of events backwards
I happen to be re-watching (yes all, someone give me strength) from TCS all the way to modern I might skip the cartoon but who knows anyways what I want to learn more about the sleeper ships from the mysterious time known as the.. 1990's.
I haven't been on it in a while, but if they haven't already done so I have to wonder how long it'll be before Star Trek Online decides to put the Emmett Till into the game.
You need to stream your Star Trek Fleet Command play sessions. I think we'd like to see if RU-vidrs are really playing their sponsors games, like this and Raid Shadow Legends.
Jeannie from MxR plays actually does, or did, play raid shadow legends on twitch for quite a long time. I dont know why, its terrible; she is one of the few youtubers who actually played the games that sponsored their videos.
I would love to see a bigger Defiant class. Not quit as big as the saucer section of a Galaxy class but close. 8 to sixteen decks and a hanger. Don't forget those holodecks😁.
The Voyager was wrongly shaped to use the Slipstream Drive, The Ship needs to follow better Hydrodynamics. The U.S.S. Emmit Hill's Deflector dish is shaped like Super Man's S. And it could be used in a DS9 movie titled Area 31.
