My shoulders hate any chest pressing movements. Swapped pressing out for bench supported cable flys for the first time last week, shoulders felt perfect and I got the best chest pump of my life. Insane.
I had this issue for years in powerlifting always got should strains, when you bench try focusing bringing the bar down with your lats basically imagine doing a barbell row but in reverse you flair your elbows out in a arc as you lower the weight and then then flair them back in. Almost like your doing db flys but only from the elbows and your forearms just stay stationary. My bench went up dramatically and my shoulders are amazing now.
Gotta go lighter and really focus on retracting the scapula pulling the shoulders back and down only pushing the chest up on chest day and focus on the scapular plane and developing that mind muscle connection on back day..imo this should fix the shoulder issue
@@paulcervantes9502this is truth. Only when I lowered the weight and doubled the eccentric time to actually use the muscle and connect with it, did I finally start to have shoulder relief!!! So crazy but so true and now I’m back up to same weights I was pushing when I was hurting myself. Maybe a little less heavy weight bench pressing but I don’t care about lifting heavy weights at all anymore.
Switched to Eric's style of chest training using cables primarily and fly machine. Far better muscle response than all my years past. Chest has always been my weak point, but following his suggestions will fix this i can tell.
Chest was a weak point for me too. While I could lift 250 kg at the 45° leg press, I could barely bench press 65 kg. It took me years to reach 100 kg and yet my pecs weren’t that big. Then I started do dips and then flies : my pecs exploded !
Definitely both. U don't get that big an cut without gear. Still gotta put in the work tho and having great mechanics and form are 100% more beneficial too
Have you tried doing slow eccentric presses with a arched back since I stopped doing presses for a while to and tried the slow eccentric and man they work like a charm
@@haydenelifrits8329 I agree, presses are phenomenal for chest but only when done strictly and keep the movement shorter so the delts and triceps aren't working so much. When you lock out I basically consider that a type of rest pause training which is not nearly as efficient for getting a pump either.
I previously did slow controlled and paused on the fully contracted position. I've been trying your method of pausing on the stretch combined with the contraction. I really need to grow upper and inside chest hoping your tips help!
Love Eric training style, I have definitely definitely taken a lot of his advice into the gym. I just need to know what stack you’re on now so I can look exactly like you.😂
Great set of tips. The one downside of my home gym is only having a single cable, which can only do either top or bottom position. Still, not enough to get me back in the gym. 😂
Maybe some one can help me... I can't do flys since a couple of month because of my shoulder Position. I just got horrible pain when its fully streched
All his "new" methods aren't new at all. It's what the pros used in the early 2000's. It was called X-reps at the time. There's more to be added as well. If you would add in X-pause reps, the results would be even better.
probably less likely to cheat and recruit other auxiliary muscles (like delts) if you maintain slow control, as well as more time under tension = more growth
Love this, except it's not stretch mediated hypertrophy. Only a minor point of semantics. SMH takes many hours under constant tension and has only been studied in rodents and birds. This is a result of maximized tension in the lengthened position which has been studied in humans.
I mean pec Flys you do have the entire weight of the dumbell hinging on your pec and shoulder joint in the extended position. So how tf you gunna load "full stack" type weight
@@1mropz1 I hear you .....but once you feel that stretch for one second you will love it. I like incline dumbbell press. Smith Press and decline DB flye also, but cable work has me hooked 👍🏻. Do the Decline DB flye nice n' slow and that stretch is insane!
I know this is gonna sound weird, but there are 2 unconventional exercies that will somewhat stimulate your chest: cable front raises and cable lateral raises.
@@kane6529 Well it's only at the very beggining of the movement. And well i use these leg strap thingies on my hand and i feel my side delts better and it also happens for me to feel the chest a little.
there's a lot of hate in the coments lol, ok he is not a natural athlete but this style of training has been scientifically proven to be the best for hypertrofy and less taxing in the body, he is giving us the best information about fitness currently
