I've looked extensively around RU-vid on cognitive personality matters. You're doing this better. Thank you. Enough with the cults and myths and private languages. This is harder to grasp but a better model because we all do all forms of cognitive activity and it does indeed occur in lense codec pairs!!! (I am very grateful to have the benefit of your thoughtful intuition there!)
.... this is coming from an ENTP btw. No mask here though. No need to. Life is complex and categories aren't given but the right sets of opposites open up entire realms of congruence. Thank you again and carry on!
I’ve typed as an ENFP and listening to this video has definitely validated that result for me. It’s really nice to hear someone describing qualities or traits that I possess (and that I would sometimes deem “less great”) and in a way that helps me see and understand a more complex (and fairer) depiction of their purpose. Thank you for the content ☺️ Signed, A Generalist 😏
Great video again! I wanted to add that I also see a significant amount of ESFJs mistype as ENFPs. It may actually be the most common one I have encountered and again I think it's because Fe-Ne convergence really does feel like an "intuitive feeling extrovert". While the types are quite different, especially in CPT, I can see how relating to: Ti aversion, desire for authenticity in others, starting projects as a champion, filling up schedules, and novel pursuits due to the Ne auxiliary, can lead to some relating to ENFP. I know these are just the outputs of cognition and not the true type, but those lines do indeed get blurred quite a bit. If you do more of those four-way type comparison videos, I do highly recommend tackling that subject if you run into this mistype as well.
Actually yes, I'm not sure if I'm ENFP or ESFJ. But honestly I think of it as a spectrum, not a black and white thing. Because I use both sensory and "intuitive" thinking. Im athletic, I love to drive, but then I also like to read about random topics at length. But I think J types are usually more clean and conscientious. Whereas P types are usually a little more messy in comparison. So I have more in common with the ESFJ outlook, but I'd be more likely to be an ESFP than ESFJ. I think. Im not an expert.
@@CognitivePersonalityI've noticed this as well. I tend to attract or at least have an affinity with a lot of ENFPs & ESFPs in particular (well I love hate with some ESFPs where the types who are Ti-Ni blind drive me nuts. That being said my other half is on the ENTJ end of the ESFP spectrum). I've always had a great admiration for ENFPs however, especially their intellect. They can think I'm too serious & some think I'm a bit stuck up myself but on getting to know me that view quickly changes.
I've always been confused if I'm ENFP or INFP and this video made me even more confused 😂👍 .. on a serious note though this is such a great analysis and clears a lot of points and I appreciate this video so much! Thank you for the great insights!!
@@zzzcocopepe Many ENFPs would identify as an Introvert, Many ENFPs would love plenty of alone time and solitude, but would be still interacting with an external medium, so no. It's more on, Is your primary dialogue more on self-reflecting and trying to make sense out of whatever you're feeling through TeNe divergence, In fact I would say INFPs are usually the most real people you'll ever meet, or is your primary dialogue more on seeking new and novel experiences through the external NeTe transactions with a hyper-indivudualistic Fi. Way more individualistic than Fi-dominants I might add. Pretty much me trying to describe the differences in a nutshell. The hallmark of an Fi-dominant is not knowing who you are, but more on who you are aspiring to be.
ENFP here, but I’ve definitely been working on explaining my thought process and practicing Ti trying to be more aware of how I get to a logical conclusion. Because I definitely had that issue where you said one would feel insecure with their intelligence. Before Mbti, I didn’t realize what I was doing, of course, but it’s definitely eye opening seeing the processes I’m going through and how I have developed cognitively. Thanks for posting!
Until now I wasn't quite sure of my type, now I know with 100% certainty im an enfp. you've clearly articulated the details of personality, beyond just the general traits, unlike pretty much all other channels. Thank you so much! Lol
Point 6 is something I do struggle with. When in conversation with others and I am trying to explain something but I cannot sequentially explain my reasoning, I do lose a sense of confidence. It's incredible how the brain functions, I can easily understand concepts/or flat pack furniture and 'get' things, but I can't explain it! It's like the words are steeped in fog.
Wow, I really liked the new transition and editing style on the video! It's great to see the channel grow! And this analysis was great. Unfortunately many believe Enfps aren't as logically inclined as they actually are! Being an Infj I really see our thinking is very similar which creates nice conversations between the types.
Wow! So much information, consisely and thoroughly explained. Impressive. It's a real struggle to keep up with your analysis; Im grateful I can pause and rewind the clip. So much accuracy here. I attributed my jumps in associative ideas to ADHD, and call it 'thinking diagonally'. I say I can't 'think straight'--sequentially. Its a challege to backtrack and piece together a sequential explanation of my conclusions. Im a visual artist and right brained. I recently decided to begin using the written word (rather than vusual metaphors) and that's forcing me to start thinking sequentially. A writing teacher once told me that visual artists (initially) make terrible writers. Thanks for sharing your insights with us. Bravo!
Obviously there is a lot to work on and I don't mean to overwhelm CPT but an ISFJ a different perspective video, might be cool to. Considering how this type often gets portrayed as a soft, kind, stupid person who brings cookies to work. When in reality the type can be highly intellectual.
Sign 1: Your creative exploration is separate from external mediums. Your internal dialogue is detached from external reality. Sign 2: You prefer to focus on one task at a time, with a more incremental than momentum-based workflow. Novel association-forming is something you do "for fun" rather than the very means by which you experience reality. Sign 3: Conceptual novelty takes a back seat to logical pragmatism. The exploration of new ideas is secondary to Extraverted Thinking objectives. Precise analysis of finer logical details is easily employed without losing patience. Sign 4: Your identity is more adaptive and temperamental than fixed and static. Acting in accordance with one's identity and values takes second place to logical pragmatism. Sign 5: You easily focus upon a select amount of projects without your attention being drawn towards the new and novel. You can happily engage a state of prolonged focus upon details, and even find peace in repetitive action. Surveying internal resources and energies comes naturally, intuitively knowing how much energy a new pursuit will require. Sign 6: You easily engage precise internal analysis without defaulting to a big picture overview. You have little difficulty with thinking sequentially, and can easily hold a well defined line of reasoning within consciousness. hope this helps 💜
Great job, I was waiting for this video. My Brother is an enfp and Im infj and lot of times he is judged as a person who doesnt finish what he starts, but he really struggles with what he is doing and his own need of identity on what he is doing. He is very good at spontaneously making new things happen and we both have good time at playing together videogames for instance, he can give crazy moments while playing halo or sea of thieves. Thanks for the video!
I find my Inferior Si to be an issue, particularly when learning new things. Because as far as my experiences tell me, when things starting to get deeper then details would entail and that's when I would switch to another thing.
I love your definitions of divergent and convergent Ne. Which explains why in the thinking portion of the Enneagram ENFPs and ENTPs are mostly Enneagram 7, and INFPs and INTPs Enneagram 5. Because Enneagram 7 types characteristically jump out of airplanes and interact more with the outside world. While INTPs and INFPs, are mostly observing the outer world passively. Although since INTPs are usually Enneagram 5 as their primary type they tend to have a line of connection to Enneagram 7. Whereas INFPs are usually Enneagram 4. And so have a line of connection more toward external acts of service.
Fascinating. I’ve identified as INFP for decades, however this video did not rule out ENFP for me. I’ll have to search your catalog for a video comparing and contrasting these two. Thanks as always for your articulate breakdowns.
I really like this format. Maybe it's not intentional, but I can see how you try to address the characteristics of each type in someone: trying to get them to deny their existence and accept the reverse. "Is it actually optional for you?" A question certainly fundamental for those who have the slightest desire to know themselves. It is even one of the foundations of scientism: you try to deny a hypothesis until it proves to be undeniable. In the case of typing, until the probabbilities stabilize.
great video! lead me to be much more confident in my ENFP typing. i tend to use a lot of Te, which makes typology difficult, but your explanation of Ne-Te, ENFP Ti, and Fi taking priority really resonated with me.
Well this finally helped me confirm I'm most likely not ENFP...I was deciding between that and ISFP so hopefully you do them next or some time soon! Thanks for all your wonderful info (:
Brilliant video as always Harry, thank you very much. I also really appreciated your recent video comparing INTJs, INFJs, ISTPs and ISFPs; I think these kind of videos could be helpful to many. In fact, I would really appreciate you making a video comparing INFJs, ENTPs, INTPs and INFPs. I understand this may seem a very unusual grouping, but I suspect there is likely quite a bit of mistyping between these four types. INFJs, ENTPs and INTPs are to a large degree living somewhere on a Ti-Fe spectrum, and ENTPS, INTPs and INFPs are to a large degree living somewhere on an Ne-Si spectrum. Though the INFJ may seem out of place among these four types, I believe this is the crux of the issue; the online INFJ is largely a popular, archetypal stereotype rather than a cognitive description. I suspect many (INFPs that are high in conscientiousness, INTPs that are both high in conscientiousness and feel a strong presence of oppositional Fe in their life, and ENTPs that do not resonate with the cold, sporadic 'Debator' stereotype but do resonate with the INFJ empath stereotype) are typing as INFJ but do not actually have Ni-Ti convergence. I think an informed analytical discussion comparing these four types is very much needed, and you are certainly the person most capable to deliver that I believe. Thanks again, all the best!
Hi! I'm wondering if you have any insight on distinguishing between cognitive personality and neurodivergence. Many traits of ENFPs and ENTPs especially are similar to traits of ADHD, and it can be difficult to define what comes from your personality type and what comes from your neurological condition.
I am an ENFP and I have a friend who thought she was an ENFP, but she is clearly an ESFJ with ADHD. My ability to focus on whatever I was interested in would say I do not have ADHD. (I also spent a lot of time improving cognitive function in my brother using the book "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" which involved strengthening general cognition rather than changing order of functional preference, so I understand a bit of neurodivergence in comparison to MBTI cognitive functions, but I digress.) The underlying key to determining the difference is in the cognitive functions of each type. ENFPs are cognitively focused and stimulated with the concept of abstract ideas whereas ESFJs are dominated by their extraverted feeling supported by present tangibles; therefore their cognition is focused more on others and present tangibles rather than exciting abstract ideas. Where do their first thoughts go in given situations? If you asked an ENFP what their first initial feelings are at hearing they are dropped off via helicopter in a beautiful lush forest in the middle of no where at a luxury cabin with plenty of supplies for two weeks with no one else, their initial feelings would be excitement for the luxury relaxing escape, whereas the ESFJs first thought would be concerning being alone. They would feel absolute terror at that. Many ENFPs have ADHD, but so do the other types. Look to their primary cognitive functions.
@@lovetobe6118 Thats super helpful, thanks! I made this comment back when I thought I had ADHD, have now concluded that I'm probably an ENFP which gave me some of my ADHD-like traits (obviously to a lesser degree than someone with the actual condition).
This is a question I often ponder (I'm an ENFJ with adhd - the combined type). My Ti-Ni tells me it's a condition that has no underlying shared aietilogy & alls we see is the tip of the iceberg & yes Ne doms are prime candidates for being diagnosed with the condition especially ENTPs I feel.
@@zzzcocopepe I'm not op but I think a lot of things including medical diagnoses were simple dimissed, just because people don't believe them. I have adhd myself and as with many other mental conditions I can see the fine lining between myself and the disease itself. It's actually hard to, because it impact me in the way I think, live and react to the world and to myself. But the thing is, I not only feel, but I am much more myself after taking medication for that. Because it minimizes all the bad symptoms and I can actually function. The point is, your personality (not talking only about mbti)do impact a little on how the disease manifest, and the disease affects how you react to the world, others and yourself. But your personality itself do not directly harm or inibes you from functioning, but a pathology can. So, yes, adhd do exist. Maybe not in the exact "format" as we know right now, but they do. Maybe they will find more about it and we will know what exactly is adhd and how it actually impact the brain. But I can tell you in first hand, that I do actually suffer with adhd and it's more than my personality.
My wife is ENFP and you so spot on with calendar being jam packed full. She is great at juggling multiple projects/delegating and literally keeps a calendar book in her purse and references it many times daily. Your analysis of Te auxiliary/tertiary is spot on with being inconsistent, insecure etc. I have witnessed pure brilliance with my wife's Te at times so much that I am a bit taken back honestly. But this is inconsistent at best and does come in bursts and then vanishes for days. However, when I notice this Te brilliance I immediately give my wife praise which totally melts her heart. The tertiary function (aka child) loves to receive praise :) Harry - Why do some MBTI people use different nomenclature for the cognitive positioning ? ie Dominant/Authority/Auxiliary vs. Dominant,Parent,Child,Inferior etc ? Are these naming systems basically the same thing, or is this a different system ?? What is most technically accurate ? I will need to rewatch this several times. There is a lot to unpack here and digest. Nice job Harry - You seriously understand CPT on such a deep level.
Obviously, I'm not Harry but I think I can answer your question. CPT is its own sub type of Youngen Typology. Much like Myers and Briggs had their interpretation, Harry has his own. CPT departs from other typological systems in that while other systems take a more symptomatic approach, focused largely on behavior, CPT focus exclusively on cognitive functions and the inter play between them. Most other systems assign cognitive functions on a magnitude level going from the function a type has most of and/ or is best at, too the function their worst at and/ or have least of. For example the ISFJ has a strong Si a medium Ti a low Ne and a virtually non-existent Ni. In CPTs understanding of cognition however, the ISFJ instead has all functions and what changes is the consciousness, what function they operate with, and the way they are used. So in CPT the average ISFJ has a specific and concrete, file network of cerebral information, owing to Si into Ti. Mixed with a cautious, social predictability owing to Fe-Ne. The Fe-Ne pare is not necessary worse, it's simply used in a divergent, role. As far as what system is most factually accurate, Younging typeoligy in general is more of a hypothetical psychology than anything scientifically proven, so what system is most accurate is up to you. Hopefully that answers the question.
Thanks a lot! Haha, the convergent aux/agency function definitely likes to receive praise no arguments there. Paradoxical poet hit the nail on the head and I would just add I depart from other systems in the naming of function positions because of the lens-codec pairings of CPT - one function will always be performing an 'auxiliary' role to the adjoining function of the same orientation. I name the divergent auxiliary the authority function owing to its opposing orientation (thus being outside the ego) coupled with its sensitivity and compulsivity, which tends to instill an agenda unto the dominant pairing. The function is also divergent and therefore naturally attuned to parameters of operation/experience.
Thank you for the video! I first discovered CPT when trying to confirm if i am an ENFP, as my friend said I was likely to be, or I am another type. So this video was spot-on to me. Now I lean more towards INFP. Well, there is still a long learning journey ahead!
i had been questioning if i was infp or enfp for a while, but i think it's safe to say i'm an enfp !! actually, when i was first getting into mbti i typed as infp and then questioned between that and intp, and i didn't wanna be a mistype so i would try to brainwash myself (not a lot but i still would) into answering more fi answers than ti. but then i noticed enfp was commonly mentioned as a possible alternative type i could be, but i brushed it off cuz it's similar to infp. then one day i was like "you know what? i'll do some more tests and answer completely honestly without any bias" and guess what? on 4/5 of those tests i typed enfp (much to my surprise since enfps were one of my fav types so seeing myself typed as that was a very pleasant surprise as i didn't think i was cool enough to be one 😭) and after doing more reading about both types just to be sure of which i am, i do think i really am an enfp !! thank you so much for this vid as it helped a lot !! (in fact seeing the 5th sign genuinely gave me pain, i rlly can't imagine being like that at all haha)
Wooow, I’ve seen basically all your videos up to this point and this one is one that absolutely hits the nail, so cool. Thank you for your wonderful study of and share of wisdom on this topic, Harry!!! 😄 You are really amazing! I pray you are doing well today and continue into deeper understanding. Edit: I was just listening to this while working the first time, but after watching again gotta say, love the new designs!! 😆
As much as I wanted to enjoy the video and understand the topic of “5 Signs You’re not an ENFP.” I’m having a difficult time of keeping up with your descriptive words since your vocabulary is deep and logical, if there is anyone who can simplify this video discussion; feel free to comment!😅 As of right now, I’m currently researching on what type I truly am since I always thought of myself as an INFP for years.
As an enfp who is on the verge of divorce with her husband, I showed this video to him and he said this really helped him to understand me. I think he is an isfj or isfp but i can’t really decide between these two. Can you make a video about isfj and isfp next time so i can save my marriage. Thank you so much 😭👩❤️👨👫
At first i think i was an infj,but after watching this video it's more likely that i leaned more towards enfp because of your explanation about Si oppositional where i finding hard to focus with one subject or topics when i initiated a conversation with someone or starting a new projects that always ended unfinished. The main problem is why i think i was an infj are i was so sensitive towards other people emotion and can emphatize with them too based of what i experienced before. I'm also think that i was either infp or entp before,but i'm not adapt very much with many people and source of information like infp does and for entp one maybe it's because i learn their special trait about predicting human's emotions like them and you explained about how enfp can learn new skills more often than other types do make a strong posibilities that i was one. Your explanation is very detailed and i find it all very accurate. Great explanation and thanks,Harry.
I think T types are generally sarcastic and biting. So you are probably a feeler (F). You are introspective so probably intuitive (N). You can probably determine if you are an extrovert or an introvert for yourself. And if you are clean and tidy, you are probably a J. (Like how the guy in video is so methodical and crisp). If you are more silly or messy, you are probably a P.
I'm most likely this type. I used to make sure I gave long complicated explanations for things to compensate, for what I consider to be, inferior intelligence, but now I do it for the sake of holding people hostage in social situations; giving people the feeling of "wow this guy's talking a bit too long" and then making it seem like I'm getting to the end of my point, but then making it clear that I will be babbling for much longer.
i thank my reccomendation (and procrastination!) for discovering this channel - you’ve really helped me understand that yeah im an enfp after dwelling on it for a couple of years!
Hey, these videos are always great. I have a question though. A lot of things mentioned about the "high Ne" types is some what similar to what you might expect with ADHD. Given this do you think it's likely that many people mis types as "high Ne" types owing to ADHD? Another interesting note is that there is some correlation between the stereotypical IXTJ and INTP with autism. With that if possible I would love to see a video about how Nero divergence might affect certain types, if you have any thoughts or research on it. Thanks.
Yes, there is definitely both an overlap between symptoms of cognition and neurodivergence here and an understandable amount of mistyping that occurs as a result. On the other side of the coin, however, we are still dealing with individua variation in cognitive processing, and there are correlations I cannot ignore (even though there are still plenty of Ni users who are also diagnosed with ADHD).
@@paradoxicalpoet1525 Wow. You are the first person I know of in the CPT comments and you seem to admit to having previously been driven by ego. Most of the comments I usually find around here are people reaffirming that they are a certain intuitive type; enter the CPT video as INTPs, and leave apparently making sure they are INTPs, for example, and the INTP classification is just the opposite. Even though the creator of the CPT tries to prevent people from getting into this ego-built illusion... After all, the greater the number of probabilities, injections, etc, the greater the chaos of a typing attempt (at least that's what I understood from INTP). Mainly because typing doesn't seem objective. Have you, by any chance, been typed by the CPT? In this sense, I like to consider different scenarios and prospects, especially with regard to auto-typing. "How much I'm being manipulated by the distortions of my own mindset" is one of those perspectives. After all, the less empirical a given topic is, the greater the amount of questioning. Should I consider a certain aspect as arising from some mental failure? What metrics can I use to calculate the disparity of my typing abilities? From a relational point of view (the relationship pyramid built by the CPT), considering a scenario where I have sufficiently understood relationship typing and its specifics, what is the most likely type? How unlikely and convenient are my typing skills? In that same relational pyramid model, if I typed myself wrong, if the deviation is too wide, what does that affect the typing I do on others? Obviously, there is much more. There are a multitude of scenarios to consider; it would be interesting if the creator of the CPT himself presented them to his viewers. A pity that would probably be a lot of work and wouldn't be that interesting :/ Edit: amazing how CPT can be as complex as learning a new framework in programming lol
@@watheos6730 This was largely my point, there are so many factors within and outside of Youngen Typology to consider. Honestly I think it would be best to have a decent understanding of established and fact-based psychology before going into theoretical psychology like this. Because if Youngen Typology is ever proven true, in any form, it remains just a small part of the rest of your psychology. From the nurture of how your brain is constructed, to the nature of how you were raised, Younging typeoligy is just one factor of hundreds in your personality. That's one of the reasons CPT is my favorite system in this area, because it's so simple and applicable. CPT may seem more complicated than other systems, but by focusing in on the cognitive functions as what they actually are rather than metaphorical personality traits, you cut out a lot of the variables. For example if someone is autistic, they will have social deficits. That does not mean they are not a Fe dominant for example, though because the concepts are mutually exclusive. They would probably type themselves as a thinking type, in most systems because they would be more logical and struggle with social situations. However CPT focuses in on Fe not as social intelligence, but rather a function that focuses on external limbic data. An autistic Fe dominant, would still be taking charge of other people's emotions, they would still be most happy and fulfilled, when doing so, inspite of the impairments, at least in theory. If they did not do this, it would likely owe to them being hurt, by their perceived inability to do so. So you can see how an autistic person with dominant Fe, who understands CPT and their autism, can still deduce that they are a Fe dom. No I have not been typed by anyone, ISFJ is my current running hypothesis. Based on what I've learned from CPT. I did put a little bit of my ego into the INTP hypothesis, but owing to the lack of evidence, I've always taken these systems with a grain of salt. That said the part of my ego that was into it, was more into the intelligence stereotype, than the intuitive aspect. When I said I have lots of ideas, and I'm very creative, that's not me being egotistic those are just facts. I'm a musician who blends many types music together, you can very much argue about how good the music is, but I don't think you could say it's not creative. I mean I guess you could but I don't think that stands to reason. Even now within stereotypical Youngen Typology, I know I'm coming off as a "NT", and in other systems I would be. Luckily in CPT you can be a "SF" and still think about things intellectually, in a big picture manner.
@@paradoxicalpoet1525 In response Paragraph 1: I would say that my real interest in psychology is limited to a few concerns; is not, in fact, the area that intrigues me. I would say that neurology interests me the most. I follow the CPT because I like this type of theory, after all, it goes against many paradigms of typing developed out there on the internet (which, to be honest, is not taken seriously). Paragraph 2: I agree with much of the argument. In fact, probably the CPT is the system that comes closest to this. For example, the CPT is the only system I know of that doesn't interpret Fi as a kind of "moral scope". CPT is simple in this respect: Fi is basically inward-oriented Fe; internal harmony, as it can be manifested in different ways. However, I believe the CPT is a little more complex than you say. As simple as its basis, an objective understanding is still necessary, where the CPT fails in this. Depending on your point of view for the CPT, it is likely that many findings are a bit too abstract; difficult to exemplify. This is why I try to look at the CPT in a relational way (I consider relationships between different interpretations, I try to assign an objective value to each one). For example, when I can't tell if I'm introverted or extroverted: in a universe where I'm extroverted, ESFJ. In another, where I'm an introvert: INTP. I also try to consider my relationships and the type of people who are close to me, building different ramifications. Paragraph 3+: Interesting that you try to escape stereotypes too. I'd say I'm an inverse; my interests in philosophy, for example, are limited to the propositional logic used by this subject. Since you shared your type, I'll share mine too. I have several "models" (I don't know if I can call it that) of auto-typing. They are, in a way, interconnected, as one adds to the other. The most likely of them, according to what I've studied about each one, is what prints my type according to the pyramid, after all, in case he's wrong, it's basically denying all my ability to type someone. My closest relationships are two INTJs, an ENTJ and an ISTP/ENTP (there is a doubt between these two for him). I am also friends with two INFPs, an ISTJ and an ENFP. I can guarantee that one of the INTJs, the ENTJ and the ENFP, if they don't hold the type I believe they are, then my entire ability to type someone is completely wrong. Adding base attributes contained in other models: my high interest in systems (following a career with this), my constant routine of building frameworks, as it had always existed in me and, finally, the non-optional need to want different hypotheses to remain side by side, synchronized. INTP (35%) is the primary type, ENTP (25%); secondary and ESFJ (15%) tertiary.
Thank you for this video. Every test I've taken says I am an ENFP and I can relate to a lot I read/hear about this type, but I am still not 100% convinced, so I am trying to find out more about it. I have to look more into signs 4 and 6, because I am not sure about those. What other types should I consider if everything else was spot on?
Are you into Magic: The Gathering by chance? There's a LOT of color philosophy that, if you were interested, could be super cool to go over. It isn't exactly like MBTI personality, but more along the lines of ideals, I'd guess.
I actually played a bit as a kid! This is a really cool idea, not in the least because I already play with colour spectrums behind the scenes to represent the functions. Awesome - I might give this a go!
@@CognitivePersonality I think you could provide some really interesting food for thought over the topics. Not only are there 5 colors, but the color philosophies also can be duo and trio! For example, some colors are "allies," while others are "enemies." And combining the two nets different results depending on how you interpret each color's ideals when slammed together. It makes for some really cool dynamics, in that MBTI tends to focus towards personality traits, but mtg color philosophy is more about the ideals of that person or persons.
I think the bonus is the most important part actually. Probably my biggest part is I feel like I have Ti, I just hate explaining the Ti, because it’s super tedious. Therefore, I just use Te to explain cause it’s faster, more efficient, and reaches the same end.
27:04 yeah and then every now and then I'm reminded of situations and I ask myself "What is wrong with me, did you really just say that" and I cringe at how I have attempted to explain what I know. The need to show intellectual prowess may be why I became so prideful when I typed INTP or ENTP. But quite recently, I desired to really understand things even if it meant going through these long videos (which are very insightful, I love them) to train myself that I can't always be looking for novelty, I gotta sift through the boring stuff and gain some insights. My mentors and pastor, and friends that I look to are brilliant people who can wield information with ease (in my pov) and I'm learning from them as they grant me patience and listen to my attempts and don't make me feel like I don't know what I'm talking about. By looking into cognitive processes these continuums align most with what I experience. I don't feel as excited as I did when receiving types that I wished were my own (partly due to the unintended elitist nature that we prescribe to MBTI types), I feel like this is helping me to stop searching for a way to escape myself, but a means to look at where I'm at and grow from there. So thank you.
Oh no! approx. 5.30- 5:57 range you hit a target, for sure. Still researching, though. (sigh) The nice thing is, after I land on a type and then realize I am still not "home", no one that I told about it is likely to either remember what I said before or what it meant.
Harry you get better with each day! I love your logic. I'm in love with it. Please do a pragmatic video on how INTJs can access their Ti and improve upon it. My approach is very systematic in nature as you have seen. However, I can zoom in to the details as well. But I see the detail which relates with something else but that which is not within the framework originally dissected. This then ends up in confusion because I basically break the framework and I need to think of a different brain map that I can use to contextualize the situation. Or I need to think of another framework in which this would be valid. If this then becames valid then it creates something new which is in opposition with the old framework from which I originally taken this from. Is this a sign of Ne convergence from Ni position>Se convergence from Si position? I also have a gut feeling that maybe Akhromant is not an INTJ? It seems to narrow down more the definitions and he remains in that state for a prolonged moment of time without going on tangents which seems a much more fluid way of seeing things than mine. It seems like he's using Se convergence from the position of Si convergent and he basically refines the sculpture. He's way more adept at that than me. I'm thinking that just maybe the INTJ oppositional Se doesn't have as much intensity in refining the details anatomically as would an ISTJ with access to Se convergence. After all it's the difference between Se oppositional divergence for the INTJ and Se convergence from the point of Si for the ISTJ. What I'm also thinking is that for me if this is true, Se oppositional divergence manifests itself in observation of the phenomenon of reality and being able to define using this dynamic or presenting just what occurs. For him it seems to me that it manifests only in regards to the dichotomies themselves for which it ascribes actions and roles. And overall his approach seems to be Si-Ne centered due to being very general in his approach and having intensity only when it hones on that Si position. But he doesn't seem to actually have a contextualized and particular approach from which it describes the dynamic itself and from there to make numerous assumptions to fit within that framework as I do which I think that it would be Ne extensity from Ni position. So the differences I see are the following: -I have intensity in regards to the dynamic and occurance in reality itself Te-Se oppositional -I have extensity in regards to the framework itself in that I try to fit everything in it according to this dynamic Ne-Te as if this dynamic defines the framework itself -He has intensity in regards to the framework having highly refined definitions Se-Te -He has extensity in regards to the dynamic of possibilities being in accordance to the static point in time of the framework Te-Ne -I'm thus proactively changing the framework through the dynamic itself Ni-Ti -He's passively changing the dynamic through the framework Si-Ti So for him Te-Ne oppositional seems to manifest itself as ideation of the archetypes from which it ascribes their dynamic. While for me it seems that Te-Se oppositional manifests itself as observation of the dynamic itself which leads to the assingations of such archetypes. Example: Te-Ne oppositional=(unstated premise: Strategists make plans Ne universally accepted claim contact function) INTJs are strategists(Te presenting evidence according to universal claim), therfore INTJs make plans->general and semi deductive Te-Se oppositional= INTJs have Te which is an external judgement function(presenting the perception or statement from which they form a judgment Se contact function) which can provide(presenting the dynamic Te) the ability to make plans through assessing the environment in conjuction with Se which is an external perception function from which the former makes a judgement on the external environment based on that perception->particular ISTJ Te-Ne oppositional= result oriented-answer validity focus=>Ease in narrowing down and condensing due to simple and generally accepted premises which results in lowering mass INTJ Te-Se oppositional= process oriented-premises validity focus=>Difficulty in narrowing down due to the overwhelming amount of conflicting premises which results in complexifying things or in unzipping them and creating a lot of mass of mess. :)))
Thanks so much! Definitely feels like some TiNi vs TiSi going on here. I'd say ISTJs can be pretty exploratory though, it's their SiFi that hones down to a place of security upon which exploration can begin. The SiFi-NiTi dip definitely tends to serve concretisation>extrapolation though.
@@CognitivePersonality This is a comment I made to Asura Psych video. "INTJ vs ISTJ next? Also, how would varriation play a part in this also? I'm refering to subtypes here. In Harry system I'm a convergent subtype which has strengthened introverted functions. So how would a convergent ISTJ diverge from a convergent INTJ? You also seem to be a divergent subtype. Convergent subtypes in the case of IJs have strengthened both Si and Ni while divergent subtypes would have strengthened Te and not Fe because it's the PoLR. I seem to be in the middle. I can both eliminate possibilities but I can also use them to my advantage and adapt myself. So I'm really confused now. However the process of elimination is tedious. Most of the time I take a thing as being a fact that is occuring and I'm just going on from there. So how would preparing in advance work vs Improvization basically? Because the latter it's what I'm actually doing. I get small doses of insights in regards to a system that I'm constructing and the way of actually being able to do that is to actually just start and they came. Sometimes they came even when I'm not doing anything or most of the time that is. So let's say how would a balanced ISTJ be different from a balanced INTJ who would both have good access to both Ni and Si? Also, I don't know if an ISTJ with Si dom would be able to eliminate possibilities in the first place. There's a difference between possibilities and probabilities. Probabilities I can't eliminate because they are really random but possibilities I can. Also in socionics the ISTJ has vortical synergetic thinking which actually is concerned with probabilities. While the INTJ has dialectical alghoritmic thinking which eliminates. So I don't see how that would be the case here. Most of the time I just need to reflect upon things and eliminating always it's kind of against my person. Like I would rather prefer to just let things run as they are than to eliminate. I would rather just adapt. A better distinction thus I think that one eliminates possibilities and the other eliminates probabilities. Now it would make sense. In your whole video about Si and Ni you were trying to eliminate things and to present the opposites. So how is that not elimination? But the focus I think that is what it is important. Here is an individual who I see that uses vortical synergetic probabilities thinking. Another thing to note is the fact that I have seen the difference between Si and Ni as one compressing things and the other decompressing. Now if both are balanced what I'm thinking is that you are able to get large amounts of information but also to decompress it and understand it throughly. So a convergent INTJ subtype in Harry system would be able to form a model inside his own head because he gathers information and then he's also able to decompress them to find patterns and a trajectory that they all follow. Which is what I'm doing and all the convergent examples I brought do the same. They all have an internal model of how things operate because of strengthened access to Ni and Si. But they project that differently. Also ISTJs have Ne inferior in relation to Fe PoLR which has nothing to do with the future but with the social dynamic. The individual in the video is reminiscent of another individual who I knew that had this kind of social paranoia where he would think that I'm doing things behind his back. When I stated clearly that I don't. He wouldn't trust anything at all. And then we ended up not talking with each other because of his paranoia. That seems to be more reminiscent of Ne inferior than Ne nemesis which seems to be under control for the most part. While the inferior function seems to not be able to be controlled because it's in the unconscious. So he couldn't control his Ne inferior it's what I'm guessing. Just like INTJs can't control their Se it just cames in the form of insight whenever it wants to and locks upon aspects that it wants to. Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZeecOKBus3Q.html And for comparison there is an INTP if you think that the one before is like that. Now I do think that the previous example is an example of a convergent subtype as well of an ISTJ and maybe Ben is too an example of an INTP convergent subtype. Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L5gRG-pwMaA.html And finally, here is an example of a more convergent INTJ, Dario Nardi. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bHJDESShlyo.html And additionally, here is a video of an ISTj or Ti domminant MBTY ISTP equivalent Jordan Peterson a convergent subtype as well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sLLyWBySGwg.html So the modes of thinking you can see that are the following: ISTJ-probabilities thinking=>Vortical Synergetic thinking INTP-ideal isolated state=>Holographic Panoramic thinking INTJ-possibility thinking=>Dialectical Alghoritmic thinking ISTP-subordination thinking=>Causal Deterministic. The general "ISTJ" stereotype it's that of a Ti dom! So what you think Asura?" What you think Harry? I think that now it makes sense the convergent subtype is the one to actually be the most indistinguishable because together with the Ambiverted one they are the most closer to individuation I think. Also Harry I think that you are a convergent subtype as well. What subtype have you thought that you are? If you are a convergent subtype, then I guess that you are welcome to the team of winners! We win a nice existential crisis which is what makes us to have those internal models in the first place. Such a win! I don't know about you but I'm speaking from my pov and Jordan Peterson one. So tell me if your experience is different. Just kidding I'm trying to miminize my problem. Otherwise it would eat me up. So by joking I extinguish the flame. Hopefully.
Don't take this the wrong way, because, I value your insights and information. However, because, it is a lot of both and because it is so much easier to listen to you when not looking at you, I have just amused myself with the realization that you are the closest thing to a real life person that someone would say about "They're so good looking, I'd sit and listen to them read the phone book." You really are exceptionally attractive in brains and beauty, sir. Yes, beauty. You are handsome, of course, but you are also really pretty. I keep wanting to paint your portrait then thinking "What's the point? " When people say "He is no oil painting." they don't mean you. You are one! Gee! Sorry if that embarrasses you or makes you uncomfortable. I am not trying to hit on you. I just felt it had to be said. You are stunning! I'm done now.
Awesome video again Harry. I’m finding that through your channel I’m more interested in learning about types that are (probably) not mine. Just an idea, it’d be interesting to hear an in depth analysis of type compatibility for different kinds of relationships involving specific types - “x and y compatibility” or something like that, and basing it on cognitive functions, convergence/divergence, and generally the deeper stuff. I feel like in depth analyses when it comes to type compatibility are pretty hard to find, at least on the internet. Looking forward to the next upload!
Thank you as usual! I may try a compatibility video at some point, but it would likely be more general and operating upon degrees of attitudinal preference rather than a full grid of which type probably suits which - subtype can afterall blur the lines here.
Wow, so far I'm surer than ever I'm an ENFP, but... it convinced me I'm NOT a mistyped ESFP. it convinced me I'm NOT a mistyped INFP(which was my initial 16p result). it convinced me I'm NOT an ESTJ mistyped due to ADHD it convinced me I'm NOT an ENTP mistyped due to emotional dysregulation
I feel like I have a strong eye for spotting male ENFPs and female ESTJs. They have strong personalities. Maybe that’s extraversion dominant + divergent Fi?
I was personally tested by professionals and told I have a mix of personality between an ENFP & an INFP. I also found out I have Multiple Personality Disorder so now I have to accept it for what it is these days.
@@CognitivePersonality Yeah I also did some research and I have a theory that people’s personality types can change throughout there lives when they get older not that it will but it can. I find it especially possible if they become different people, not saying that is always the case since it could be. Considering how complicated and always changing the human mind is for a lot of humans I don’t believe one personality type is permanent for anyone even if personalities can shift constantly. Anyway in my case I bottled up a lot of emotions consciously and subconsciously and now they come out in different personalities. Pretty weird honestly.
your case sounds very unusual and interesting. if you ever decide to share your story on some media platforms, i would be interested to be a reader/viewer haha
So, unravel and label this because I'm not sure? Haha!! What if the desire is for individual reformation because you know the outcome would be harmony? Not the kind of harmony required for conformity because that ends up in the equivalent of the pagan ritual of sacrifice. Ultimately, NOT a True picture because you're now missing some links. (I reference that because they used to sacrifice an individual for a good harvest for the group.) No, this (to me) is like having a hard puzzle to solve so you cheat and remove a couple of pegs to make it 'appear' that you achieved a harmonious end. This Is the conundrum, the puzzle, the consternation: because in order to bring anything into a unified circle you are faced with two dilemmas: One is the option to sacrifice some, which is antithetical to true harmony, or two, you must force coupling, which is antithetical to true harmony, and due to it's inauthenticity brings about a tension that creates a weak spot that, given time, WILL break at a future point. I see true harmony (the desire) only being reached through the individual transformation by sunlight and rain. Leaving a field of flowers harmoniously straining upward. A picture of true health and true harmony. Harmony depends on Health and Health depends on Harmony. Now, we just need to identify the proper source of sunshine and rain. Hmm, I know its around here somewhere? Haha
I just recently had a curry and mixed the rice and the sauce together, instead of keeping them separate. Then, later, I mixed it all with the leftover drunken noodles and ginger chicken and ate it together with my fingers out of the box the drunken noodles came in. Though, to be fair, if I was in a restaurant setting or at least had a table, I would be more likely to taste the curry, taste the rice (not, necessarily, in that order) taste the rice with curry on it (and maybe vice versa), and then taste them mixed together. What type does that?
Hey, I am having trouble finding out if i'm an enfp or entp. Whenever I take a cognitive functions test I pretty much always get Ne as my most well developed function ranging from 70-74. I primarily use mistype investigator as the site to take cognitive function tests. My second most well developed function is pretty much always Fi or Ti I usually have one or the other by a very small percentage. I usually get Te over Si these two are still functions that I have developed to a lesser degree. 99% of the time I take almost ANY cognitive function test I get Fe as my least developed function, however I still relate to some entp descriptions and traits but I feel that my Fe is way too low for me to be an entp and I know that i'm an Ne dom. Whenever I take the cognitive functions test on mistype investigator I usually get enfp over entp by 2%. I than start to doubt if i'm actually an enfp because I enjoy debating so much and than I over-analyze which of these types I am. I feel that I am too sensitive to be an entp. Can you please give me any helpful advice or your opinion on what type I am?
@@zzzcocopepe Found out I'm actually an intp, what do you mean by snarky? Are you aware of the cognitive functions; ti and te? I found out I was rejecting my fe and I started lying to myself that I was an Fe user. But I overcame that, I think I was either rejecting my fe or I was using my demon Fi. I was going through a pretty rough time in my life at that point.
@@zzzcocopepe I think all types can be sarcastic, mbti and the cognitive functions are primarily just explaining different thought processes, how you make judgements, and the way you perceive the world around you. I would say from my experience entps and estps tend to be snarky, I think it has something to do with tertiary Fe, being snarky but usually in a playful way
I'm still so confused about my personality type. It seems like I'm everything and nothing at once. It sounds preposterous, but I'm a mixture of like ENFP, ENTJ, ESTJ, ENTP and maybe ESTP.??? I Don't Know?? But one thing for sure, I'm usually not one to be fond of labels because I believe our cognition is more fluid in nature than not, and Jung mentioned something about 'individuation' and how that allows us to use all of the functions to our advantage if I'm correct. I just want to reach my goals and aspirations using systems/habits which seems Te, I also enjoy seeing healthy authenticity and creativity in me which feels like Fi. Then I also like abstractions and seeing the future possibilities or outcomes to determine which path is the right one to take (maybe Ne)?. Oh my, now I've rambled when I got to sleep.
I think I'm a full stack ENFP. I have developed all my cognitive functions really well so I wonder if that's the reason the last two reasons don't fully apply to me.
Welp, my classmate sent me this bc he believes that i am an ENFP. However, i don't relate to parts of this video. I watched the ENTP video and that does fit closer to me. In other words questioning my own type even when we are learning about personality typology in psych class and our teacher got us to do a few tests, that of the enneagram, socionics, mbti and big 5 and i tested as an ENTP a few times and tested with the corrisponding scoionics but with 8w7. So yeah, this definitely helped show that i am NOT an ENFP Though i wonder why when i was younger i typed as ENFP(though that may be down to the inaccurate tests i used as i also mistyped as ISFJ once and also ESTP and INTJ) Just curious idk
I thought for some time that I’m an ENFP because of all the values ENFP admire however Te function is extremely foreign to me. I have recently developed an Fi function. I think I’m more inclined towards Ne than Ni, Se, or Si. The Ti function is also a little foreign to me but not as much as Te. What type could I possibly be?
I think authenticity is extremely valuable for a person to have, without it the person seems untrustworthy or not worthy of respect. I’m trying to work on my Fe function, but it feels a little awkward and I don’t really rely or trust it much. Overall, I feel like an enfp without the te function (alien to me) also the Se and Si feel alien.
this is intermediate or expert level info…i recently tested as an ENFP but some youtube videos made me question it. Sadly for me this video is in a foreign language 😅 i mean i love precise, dry, 3hr long videos on astrology but i know that language.
Is it possible to develop all of your base 4 cognitive functions to the point you move on to the other cognitive functions. I feel like my Ne is tapped out and my Te&Fi are in harmonious equilibrium with my values. And my Si is strong enough to recall relevant past experiences with some ease. Also my Ti has been challenged so much that i can recall my thoughts to sources that hold all the data. I kind of rely on experts i trust for that. That now as an ENFP I'm exploring my Se. Is that something that can happen is it possible?
It's quite interesting because I identified with the Fi and Ti parts. The Si too, but not totally (I guess more developed?) and about the Ne part I felt myself a little too distant from the description, like or I didn't find usage examples in real life for myself or I felt that if I have it it's more controlled. What does it mean? ISTJ? ISFJ? I used to consider ENFP as a possibility, but I guess I'm too low energy or lazy for that lol
@@slowgirl2699 The type spectrum is a natural consequence of seeing the functions themselves on a spectrum i.e. if Se and Ne are opposites, there is a space in between them as intensity shifts to extensity. Everything within CPT is on a spectrum, even function positions and type itself
Both like to bury themselves into random interesting topics. Both are chaotic. And both have a sense of humor. But INTP is snarky and melodramatic, whereas ENFP is goofy and gregarious
I don’t get along very well with ENFPs that disagree with me, they always say “you are too insensitive!”, to which I reply “I ain’t concur with you”. They are lovely inasmuch as we share the same ideas. Also, I admire how fucked up the opinions they are capable of saying are lol
I'm an ENFJ who knew an ENFP who had a massive crush on me. Not sure why but we're like chalk & cheese in terms of outward disposition (we need to loosen up a bit) but we gel really well. You'll never be bored with an ENFP around! 😊
There can be a big symptomatic overlap for sure, and people with ADHD can definitely be mistyped as Ne dominant. That being said there does seem to be a moderate prevalence here. NeTe itself doesn't have the same compulsion as ADHD, however, and naturally correlates with an ease of finding motivation for many different things.
I've been doing MBTI tests every year since 2017 to check whether my personality would change across years. Always had ENFP as the result, and this year surprisingly I find myself to be an ENFJ, or maybe not... I am very confused To understand better I'm trying to understand cognitive functions and how they relate to different personalities, wish I could find a way to understand 😅
Is it possible to be a big-picture thinking ENTP who's main priority is with fundamentals and underlying principles and is less specific with details and memory in a line of reasoning?
This would certainly be true for me as an ENFJ & ENTPs share the same network however I do have a highly active SiTi network going on so I can be more specific & procedural. You could just be a more convergent subtype.
Dude you've got sooo much value to offer here, and such deep insights, but your ability to communicate in a charismatic and engaging way is soooo lacking it's such a shame. I've just sat here for 30 minutes trying to pay attention to you and it's sooo hard. I feel like I got almost nothing from the video despite really trying, cause I wasn't able to ever get into flow with what you were talking about. Please do some work on how to talk in a less robotic and more emotionally engaging way. It's torture. I listen to audiobooks and podcasts all the time, so I think I'm above average at attention for this sort of thing, and I really struggle to not daydream when listening to you. You don't seem to have any sense of what to emphasize and when, just reading through your script in a monotonous way. I really think you could be the leading voice in this field if you overcome this issue. You gotta get out of this Ni+Ti thing you're stuck in, please
@@abelardadebayor5642 Gender doesn’t limit the amount of cuteness 😋. All ENFPs I know are extremely intelligent and we understand each other innately. We even think the same way.
