@sha broussard A locking diff can be unlocked and locked at anytime, therefore making them safer and easier to drive on asphalt, vs a welded diff is permanently locked.
This is just a hobby. Former military vehicle owners are a very small community and these trucks are not usually driven daily unless the owner is using it for commercial purposes.
There was a guy in Wisconsin he had one and pulled a 48 foot spread axle flatbed with it. Hadn’t seen him a a while but that doesn’t mean he isn’t out there.
Compare these to the Soviet trucks, its not even a contest. I'm a proud American but those Soviet/Russian trucks kick our ass. I think its largely because the American trucks don't have lockers. I've seen Soviet trucks tow about 30-40,000 lbs of logs through a river about 6-7ft deep. Now thats real off-roading.
Well the Soviet mindset was very different from the American mindset. The Soviet mindset was learned from WW2, where the extreme mud conditions of the Rasputitsa gave hell to the Germans and then the extreme snow also gave hell (gave hell to the Soviets too, but they liked that it slowed the Germans). As such, the Soviet mindset was: 1) Do not design a major system of roads that would make it super easy for the enemy to just drive right into Russia and straight to the major cities like Moscow 2) Design vehicles capable of dealing with the special climate and terrain Or on that last part, I would at least assume, as I don't know much about Soviet trucks :D
Yeah, I love these trucks too, but offroad they suck compared to trucks of most other countries. They should at least have lockers for the two rear axles, lots of over the road tractors have them.
@@1one3_Racing Recently got stuck in whiting, nj while offroading. Had one of these fuckers try to pull me out and almost get stuck itself, didnt help much that there was a 6 foot deep puddle in the way
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@@ok400bigbearpro calm down Karen, it's not the end of the world if the military isn't as tight as the wedgy you had last week during yoga practice. Soldiers have free time too, even while working.
For what it's worth, the Ishtar and sound of an Oshkosh HET blasting through four feet of mud and water with a 70 ton tank on the trailer has to be seen to be believed! So much power under your right boot! Nothing else comes even close.
88 mike here. Loved my Het. Through i do have a soft spot for my hemmet too. Loved to see how close to the rear of a pov i could get. Look down through the sighting glass and wave to little kids as parents crapped themselves
@@Andrew-jn9yp Lmao....snorkel baby, snorkle. Yup, a new 75,000 $$$ tricked out jeep would look good with only 3 inches of roofline showing above the water.
Victor Vanderhyde I am not sure. I know you can get lockers for them but install labor, if you outsourced it, would be considerable. The diffs are top load so accessing them may prove challenging.
The Marines frequently order trucks with lockers. It's really not silly if you think about it, lockers and the other upgrade parts (such as larger axle shafts) required to run them are expensive. It also makes the truck harder to operate and more prone to drive train failures, especially when you have inexperienced 18 year old military personnel operating them. They are actually really well designed. The trucks usually run out of power or traction before anything fails.
J Shafer I've thought about it a lot and it is, in fact, silly. Why would they design and order some with lockers and some without? They are for extreme off-road use. I've gotten mine "stuck" in very little off-road terrain.... some clay-mud.... it was so ridiculous watching one tire spin per axle. If you're doing serious off-roading, lockers are the way to go. They were just cheap with the 6x6. I bet making a 4x4 with full lockers would be superior off-road vs 6x6.
Sergeant Scumbag my dad wants me to go buy a winter truck/suv i think i need a 5 ton ' that be nice but tooo big and heavy, too much drinking gasoline, hard to find a space parking lot, high insurance, high DMV tag, high currency
I love the M939 series 5 tons. Drove the 1st gen in desert storm, they didn`t do well in sand with the duel wheels, but the A1s,and A2s were better with the big tires. A2s had the central tire inflation system which was good when it worked.
@@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043: not sure what the hell you are talking about. These are all Cummins straight 6's. Either the 14.0L or the 8.3L turbo. But none of these are v8's.
Over seas , back in the 60's, I drove everything from jeeps to 10 ton ammo trucks and I liked 5 tons the least. The deuce and a half was the easiest and best all around as I remember.
Jeez, these 5 tons don’t have lockers. So what. They have 6x6 drive. Some of them have the 8.3 Cummins Turbo Diesel 1990-1991, some have the NHC 250 Cummins non turbo (14 liter engine mid 1980’s). Both of them weigh over 22,000 lbs, and they are still playing around in the mud like it’s nothing. So they get stuck every now and then. It happens when you push the limits of what machines can do. They are awesome vehicles! Very capable at climbing, pulling, mudding and just looking cool. I am sure your Russian truck is cool too, it’s not a competition, unless you feel inferior about your trucks, it’s just a video, everybody stay calm and enjoy the America being splashed around.
Yeah guess what 6x6 doesn't mean shit without lockers, they start to lose traction and less tires are spinning than any 4x4 with lockers. A lifted g-wagon is just as capable as these at offroading
These 5 tons actually came from our unit I'm in the 298th SMC 378th battalion I knew these trucks looked familiar glad they are getting out to good use your welcome guys take care of them
These trucks aren't really that great offtoad they all have open diffs, they might as well be priuses since only one wheel gets power when they're stuck....
Interesting watch. I was just having some conversations with some guys here in Washington state about rigs. This is a good demonstration of what will work and what won't and where and why. Thanks for the share.
BlackHorseMilitia I live in Spokane Washington and I’ve seen 4-5 of them in town my hole life. I see them pull people out of some deep snow when we get it. 1-2 of the trucks were tractor trailers and they seem to do fine in any weather. Even the mud at the city’s ORV park.
I have had a few 4 wd vehicles, 69 Bronco, 88 Toyota, 74 Hi Lux,, 92 Toyota, 2001 F250 V10,2001 Suburban 5.3 with Z71 package, The 74 Hi Lux was actually a 2 wd however the posi rear end made it do better than my opn diffed 4x4's !! I had 14 inch rims and off road tires in rear only.
Cool video, maybe someone can answer this question. On the big trucks, what that triangle looking piece on the front wheels? Some sort of valve stem protector?
Takes me back to AIT during recovery training at Fort Leanardwood. But we had four inches of ice we had to break through and go under water to hook up the 5 ton to pull out.
6.38 to 1 gearing in all 3 axles plus a very low low range, if these m932a2's had the off-road tires instead of highway tires or if they used the ctis system to air down they will go almost anywhere, I drove them in the army.
I used to take my Army 5 ton 1944 4x4 Autocar cabover into the woods and just drive over and knock down 8” trees in granny low.... Truck was unstoppable Gas 509 cubic inch flathead six
Join the army and you get paid to do this and much more. They teach you how to do this properly with the biggest and baddest toys you can only dream of and they pick up the tab for fuel, breakages and damages! The best off roading is when you getting paid to do it and not liable for costs!
Rishi Solanki it's not about the money, it's about being part of something,personal pride,self respect and being in a band of brothers. Best times ever.
I drove the both the. m54 5ton and m52 5 ton tractor with the 6 cylinder multifule.engine with a turbocharger. The m38 2.1/2 ton had the same engine with out the turbocharger both with 10 forword gears and 2 reverse. This was back in the 70's wile I was in the Marines !
I used to drive a bigger but smilar one 7ton truck in military. Its the most painful truck to drive. Noisy, hot very uncomfortable etc. Once i had to put a trailer for an excercise and it literally became a train. Bloody long and heavy. But sometimes fun when i had to go offroad. I've drived a crane version, cargo, oil tanker. Had a unique experience for two years struggling to make these beast stay in good condition.
One of the biggest problems with these bigger trucks getting stuck is not only leaving their diffs open. But the lack of weight. These are Army trucks designed to be loaded down. The ass ends when empty are too light for adequate traction on the rear tires. Put some weight on them like an extra couple of tons and then these trucks would walk right through everything here and not spin a tire.
The square bodies, aka CUCVs were the vehicles in the fleet before the HMMWVs. Not a big GM fan, but they were over enginered and under powered. I am also a bigger fan of the M923 generation 5 tons. The first gen didn't have super singles and much stronger motors in them.
I was s little worried they b.v were goinnto attempt to tug out the 5 CD ton with bvb t by ed cucv when I s as w it comexaround the one mid pitiful mean I live cucv but I dont think its pulling outa5ton
Массы разные . Да и Урал посадить можно на брюхо чтоб унимог потом вытаскивал как на Камчатке раз с военными было. Посадили краз, зил 131 и Урал 4320 на брюхо военные бывшие так и до рыбалки не доехав. 5 тонный унимог потом вытаскивал. Мотор всего то 125 кобылок
OMG BRINGS BACK MEMORIES OF DRIVING THESE IN GERMANY. ALSO GOT MINE STUCK IN THE TANK MUD FIELD. HAD TO GET PULLED OUT BY A M1A1 RECOVRY TANK. TOOK A LONG TIME TO WASH ALL THE MUD OFF. A BIG MESS. BUT HAD LOTS OF FUN. I DROVE OVER 200,000 MILES ACROSS GERMANY.
Cody, you seen to have a tenuous grasp of vehicle weight rating. a 5 ton mil spec truck will pull 5 tons up a 60% grade. 5 tons have been known to pull well over 100,000 pounds.
Some of these M900 series trucks are modified. What I did notice though is that they weren't using the diff lock. All 6 wheels will spin not just one side. Another thing was a few had the CTIS (Central Tire Inflation System) and they didn't use them either. Sadly we didn't see this amazing vehicles full potential. Great video all in all.
So when i was in we had the Oshkosh lmtvs which replaced these, for the most part anyways we still had a few wasting away at the back of our motor pool not sure if they even ran, anyways I'm curious how the lmtvs would do in mud like this they have lockers and this tire inflation/deflation system for different terrain like highway, mud,sand,snow would be pretty cool to see
Zachary Lowrie the lmtv really dosnt so as well. The onboard computer limits wheel slip like tcs in a normal car. I was a driving instructor at ft Polk. We got to beat the living SHIT out of everything from the h1's to the new MATV.(which is like a off road corvette lol)
Drove these in the army, they were adequate but higher center of gravity that the 818 series. Those Goodyear tires were trash in mud, and better for highway use. I still loved my HEMTT for stuff like this.
SuperMotoSean 419 they do use these for logging ...the 5ton and deuce and a half (2 1/2ton) but the best for logging is the HET (heavy equipment transport truck) it's is 8x8 and it's what they use to transport Bradly tanks it is a beast to drive and if the mud looks too deep then you can just drive around it even with the pine trees lol.... it'll tow the earth
+john martin the deuce an a half isn't nearly heavy enough. we had 2 of them we used to haul wood out of bad roads to where road trucks could get it. (swamp logger). transmission's wouldn't hold up. and the all fuel Perkins lacked on power. But with that being said low range 1st gear was a beast. I've seen the rear ends pulling mud and still crawling with 25 tons of wood behind it. I have seen the motor's chock out and start running backwards. pulling air through the stack and blowing exhaust out the air filter. the Cummins are alot better
Wow, SnowRunner maker might saw this video before they design the game... All these dudes are in the game... The Chevy, the GAZ, and the truck which looks the same like fictional truck ANK MK38 military grade... Wow, such powerful soul these dudes have along the mud...
I have a complete set of all three air locking 5 ton Rockwell axles. Both rears and the front. Gear ratio is slightly lower, so a pinch higher freeway speed. 5.8X vs 6.44 I think. $2,000 each.
