Putting Greg and Kelly's speech back to back is so iconic. Especially since neither of them actually determined anything with the numbers. They both had made up their minds beforehand.
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I'm sorry, but I quite did not understand that question. Why is that question so iconic? I haven't watched Borneo. 😅
Basically everyone in the first season was being super serious and chastising the finalists. Greg gets up there and asks this question right in the middle of it to sort of make light of how silly the whole thing was. They showed every vote at the final tribal except for his, so it seemed like his question really did indicate his decision, but he said after he was going to vote for Rich the whole time. Similarly, Kelly Wiggles always was voting for Jeremy, but wanted to throwback to her season where she lost by one vote. @
@@yaboi912 Honestly, I thought she was really stupid at first because I thought she was being serious about Greg's question being what caused her loss, but when I found that out it made her jury speech one of my absolute favorites. Really hilarious callback all the way to season 1.
Yeah I love Malcom too but he could’ve been sitting there. He had an advantage in the challenge and took a huge L. Denise deserved the win every bit as much
Gavin Gregg Allegedly she was trying to get Jenna to say Deena’s name because she wasn’t sure about Deena’s vote. Rob C talked about it a couple times but didn’t really say if it was guaranteed truth, just mentioned that it was a rumor he somewhat believed
For anybody still wondering why Ethan said 888 as his answer, Kelly said at the start she didn't think either of them got to know her at all, so she had them choose a number between one and a thousand. Kim casually said three, but Ethan really thought about it and said 888, the number she was looking for was 568 which was a reference to The Graduate, her favorite movie which they had talked about before. he was trying to remember that reference. She also gave him her vote.
@@encycl07pedia- the way i think of it is: shes asking that question for a reason… the number has to mean something so between 1-1000 choosing 3 is showing you dont really care vs. 888 which took some thought. it is a guessing game so stressing over choosing the right number is wrong, you just have to put some thought into what your answer will tell. in a different video two contestants were asked to choose between 1-1,000,000 and they low balled like 4 and 10 and the guys face looked so disappointed. you have a million options and you go easy and choose 4? it shows where someone mentality is at in a way, although it depends on who asked it. different people have different reasons for using this number game but unless its 1-10 you should never pick a low number like that and you dont have to know what their endgame is with the answers… u just have to try lol
Professor Goldsmith, as she is referred to now, is just too smart for us plebs. One of the many things I love about her. She worked for Survivor casting for several years after this season, but I'd love to see her back after so many years away.
@@brookestarotreadings7777 honestly I could see it going either way, like theoretically Rich got the vote cause he picked 7, but on the other hand, like you said, maybe she wanted someone to match her guess 🤷♂️
Jordan Maze I read somewhere that she was trying to get Jenna to say deena to get deena to vote for Jenna because they didn’t really get along during the game but I mean it was pretty awk
Heidi's jury speech is top 10 for me lmao it's literally like something from a movie or a sitcom.. like you would think someone scripted that entire exchange and shot the scene 20 times until she got the stuttering and facial expressions JUST right 😂
It wasn’t about that in the beginning, that’s just how the game evolved as more people played the game of Survivor by lying and backstabbing. It’s incredibly difficult to win by playing a completely loyal and honest game.
Edna's speech is really underrated imo It echoed Shii Ann's speech, and was the least bitter, if not the only juror in that jury of that season that did not unleash their bitterness on the finalists. They also called on the jury to mirror themselves as they all had wrongdoings as well. HOWEVER, the only two things that separated the two women are their own gameplay and their vote.
Shii Ann actually wasn't the only non-bitter juror on All Stars. Jenna and Rupert were also pretty chill with their speeches, and not angry like the other 4. In fact, during Jenna's confessional when casting her vote for the winner, she was pretty complimentary of the way Rob played the game, and said that he should've owned it a little more.
Robin Dior-Wu Jordan Maze I read somewhere that she was trying to get Jenna to say deena to get deena to vote for Jenna because they didn’t really get along during the game but I mean it was pretty awk
@@sethbryant5539 Rob was crashing on Lex’s couch and calling up Kathy for girl advice on the regular. He didn’t break his word, he gaslit them in front of millions of people and got away with it.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437 Rob was playing the game. So was Lex. The difference is that Lex expected their friendship to mean something in the game. I'd feel more sympathetic to Lex, but after he gave a whole lecture to Ethan about separating the game from real life it makes it hard. I get he didn't have any promises to Ethan, but he did with Jerri who he voted her out because Kathy wanted to. Why did Kathy want to do this? Because she trusted Rob more than Jerri. It was a strategic decision. Lex put the game in front of Jerri just like Rob later did to him.
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Kelley Wiglesworth is so bad*ss that was one of my favorites because I remember watching season 1 like.. “Greg are you serious..” and although Jeremy didn’t win by one vote it still was so nostalgic and kinda funny.
Coming into that FTC only Jenna was planning to vote for Kelly, so his question wasn’t changing the outcome. Sue’s speech made Colleen and Gervase switch their votes.
Julie's speech jury was spot on! It is so real when she talked about the three. I did like Rob until I saw his game on redemption island. It felt weird the way he manipulated Natalie and the rest of the group that was super young and naive plus an insane person like Phillip.
@@reubenmanzo2054 If you feel equally betrayed by every finalist, like Shane did with Aras and Danielle, then that makes it hard to decide who deserves your vote more
@@fredvaughan1017 fuck outtta here with a true survivor winner. everyone is their own individual with their own beliefs. you see it as stupid and a missed opportunity, but someone else's personal opinion could be that he is unfair and rude for saying 4.
I love Kelly wiggles speech and callback but I love the responses even more lmao, shows just how strategic Cambodia was with everyone just taking the smart route in case it actually mattered its hilarious
@@adjiar yup. They shoulda kept russel to the merge to cause chaos cause the other sheeps in robs tribe wouldve put russel in the pedestal too cause their playstyle is sinilar by having people ride coatails. It wouldve been smart to let russel take rob out and them him out. Cause rob and russel wont work together
@@adjiar South pacific wasn't THAT bad after my last rewatch but I totally understand why people hate it and yeah Redemption Island is somehow worse in rewatch
JL's FTC speech was iconic.. really wish we'd got her on AUS AS. Craig, too, but he did get fucked by that ridiculously overpowered tribe pick and Phoebe took out who needed to be took out, can't blame her.
I never saw Australian Survivor but this was an amazing jury speech. And she’s right, it’s like Lisi in Survivor Fiji saying Cassandra was greedy for wanting the money. Everyone wants the money, that’s not greedy, almost nobody would play survivor if there was no money to win. And some people want to win the money for their family, or for charities and humanitarian work.
Jordan Maze I read somewhere that she was trying to get Jenna to say deena to get deena to vote for Jenna because they didn’t really get along during the game but I mean it was pretty awk
Fun story. Rob grabbed 2 rocks Julie had painted for her daughters that she left at their camp before going to FTC. He was going to give them to her until her speech. You can find the video of Rob and Natalie throwing them into the jungle after FTC.
I really want Jennah Louise to get a second chance, when she realised she had to play the game she did it really well, and she orchestrated the Nick blindside early on (although he was saved by a twist), she would definitely do so much better in her second time around
If you were one of the finalists sitting at the final tribal council, and a jury member bases their vote on the "pick a number between" question, would it not be more advantageous to be the jury member that answers the question second? So, for example, Richard in Borneo answers with "7." Instead of saying "3," Kelly could have said "6," which means that she wins the vote if the juror's number was 1 through 6, whereas Richard only wins if the number is 7 through 10. She is 20% more likely to get her number closest to the juror's actual number. To be the first finalist to answer that question, your best bet then is to answer "5," because you've secured numbers 1-5, and the second finalist can, at best, say "6" and secure numbers 6-10. It's a 50-50 likelihood. If I'm looking into this way too much or there's something about the nature of this question I'm missing, please let me know. I'll humbly admit it and shut up lol.
I think some of the jurors who ask the pick a number question don’t actually pick the closest number like with Kelley in Africa she wanted to see if they listened to her or not and with Kelly in Cambodia I think she wanted to see if they would pick a number right next to the person or be humble and pick a random one. That’s just my take but like you said I may be wrong as well and I’ll humbly admit that
lara ozbutun She ended up being a great character by the end. She and Andrea were the only ones who seemed to see through the bullshit at the end of the game, but Ashley actually was in a decent position in the game. It's unfortunate that Natalie was a moron and gave Rob the win. Based on post-game interviews, it seems like Ashley definitely would have beat Rob if she made it there.
@@rolandgreen7484 Did you see Grant's reaction at the final tribal? If anyone was the most bitter, it was him, because he was one heck of a sore loser, so if Ashley gave him even the slightest reason to vote for her, he'd be the most willing one to write his name down.
Qwe Rty Ethan won because he built up a reputation for being the nice guy. He predicted that Kelly wasn’t really basing her vote off of picking a number between 1 and 1000. So he picked a high number, maintained his nice guy brand, and won both Kelly’s vote and the game. It was a strong move.
Qwe Rty I think people put too much thought in to this. The jurors who ask this must already have their minds made up. In Borneo Greg really respected Richard and his game. Kelly has very little respect
I hate when they get self-righteous because we all know they are just bitter. Like Julie talking about Nat10's parents and Rob's and Phillip's children. What the fuck.
I feel like Kelly was a little undecided when she was giving the speech but after the other two just followed Jeremy saying three and four after he said two it just cemented it in her mind that Jeremy deserved to win
I don’t think they actually pick the person who guess the number they see who says what when they just said the number 1 away it showed they weren’t going to just guess a random number
@@parkerduncan978 oh yeah I'm not disagreeing with that, but before using Spencer's pick against him I think it should be acknowledged that its the mathematically logical choice
Oh lord, Philip is a hot ass mess, but he is so damn entertaining. I actually felt like Redemption Island would be boring af if Phillip wasn't there😂😂😂😂.
Probably because of what it symbolizes. It's bringing the show as a whole full circle. It's such a small moment but INFINITELY powerful with what it means to Survivor.
People drive me crazy on the 1 through ___ questions. One time the person asks “pick a number between 1 and 1000”. First person picks 4. If I am Ethan, “Thank you for choosing 4. I’ll take 5.” Instead, Ethan picks 888…..🤦🏻♂️
Oz held hard feelings for parv when she duped him and fans versus favorites and Edna's explaining that we shouldn't take it personally it's just a game and it's a game out what I'll play out last and they basically did that to us so we shouldn't be angry at them if they blindsided us or voted us off it was just strategic moves nothing personal that is how the jury should feel every time but someone like Debbie Ozzy and James would take it to personally