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You mate ,its like anything ,you know your weapon system back to front and the dope on the scope and wind reading, is 2nd to none, even without geo app, Erik keep it up love to see it at 1,000 yards and maybe if you get the other shooters to use your ammo as well in their weapon's in 308 or 6.5 or what ever, just so each weapon has the same twist and barrel length etc but using your ammo, especially the drilled out end of the projectile etc. 🦘🦘👌👌✌✌👍👍 I know its the rifle mate, because i have never shot a weapon since i was only 14 in the cadets, yet in 2020 was asked to go to a rifle practice shoot, little did i know they are all F Class shooters and i was blown away with the systems. Also can they use iron long range sights old school type lope hole stuff or not ? All 308 and 1 5.56mm, first time shooting at 1,200 yards score was 38/50, 2nd time score was 48/50 and that was with the 5.56mm, so its the training i got in the cadets and also the precision of the weapons, blueprinted rifle, barrels, no tuning ends at all, no muzzle brakes, just FTR 308 and 5.56mm weapons. Its a very expensive sport if you want to compete in the world F Class / FTR championships etc, like at bisley in england with the wind issues etc.🦘🦘✌✌👍👍
As a Marine I can tell you those comments are just dumb. The 500 yard target is 20” wide and 40” tall. Hitting 10 for 10 is not a problem. But no way you’re hitting a 2” by 2” target at 500 yards with iron sights.
Anyone who comments dumb shit about how Marines qualify open sights at 500 in the context of this isn’t a Marine. Yes we qualify to 500 but the target is huge by comparison. Taking nothing away from Marine marksmanship though..it’s no small feat to get EVERY Marine to the point they can hit a car sized target at 500 😂. Probably most of the people who comment on these videos have never even taken a 500 yard shot.
Derek shot on Texas Plinking 1"MOA Challenge that was shown on a few days ago, lol. That rifle is crazy! And yes, USMC does shoot irons out to 500yds. I know, I shot 242 in Basic. We weren't shooting at 2" targets though.
Anybody can shoot at 500 yards, hell you can shoot 22lr out to 2,000 yards, doesn't mean you will hit anything. With no optic, even man sized targets at 500 yards is just spraying and praying.
What I really love most about this show as well as Texas Plinking is, and your intro touched on this, it HUMBLES the competitors and I know some of the viewers. Like you said, and a lot of hard heads are trying to ignore it, this isn't just about laying down and smacking all the plates. WAY MORE TO IT! And it shows every time a competitor gets to the line and takes that 1st shot! If this was easy, we'd all be champions! Good stuff EC BTW, watching them shoot the 1st 5 plates then missing the last really makes one "SCREAM OUT"........ask me how I know🤣🤣😂😂
There are some shooters out there that are insanely proficient with irons. I don’t think most can clean the KYL without insane luck but it will be entertaining to see ultra skilled open sight shooters try.
The only shooters who are proficient with irons are the ones who can't see shit and think they've hit something when they haven't. 3 moa is considered accurate by iron standards and you aren't going sub moa with irons past 100 yards period.
To this day I can't understand how the old man would knock crows out of the treeline at just over 220 some yards with his old .22 cooey and the cheapest ammo available at McLeods.. and he would do it standing. I tried to repeat the shot and I can't even see them behind the sight post.
That was great. It looks like a lot of fun. Just a hunch, I don't think you are going to see anyone winning the challenge with iron sights much less even showing up to shoot with iron sights. However, if they do show up to shoot with iron sights, Please record and share. That should make for some good entertainment. 😄
I commented this on the Texas Plinking challenge, but it really bring out that you can have the most expensive equipment but everything really comes down to training and how much time behind your rifle you have.
Very nice. Really enjoyed watching. Don't know if I will ever have the time or the money to get into the more competitive guns. Sure is nice seeing the various types of equipment used and the skill of the users. I did finally find a place near me that let's me shoot out to 400yds and if I clear some brush maybe 500. Watching this along with many of your other videos sure helps me learn. I did finally hit at 400yds ¾ off bullseye, no wind. My next venture is playing in the wind after hunting season is over. Thank you and all your competitors so very much.
Great video Eric, I’m a big fan of KYL competition and most of the guys I’ve brought into it are shooting much better than they ever thought possible. Now I think you’ve come up with a way to up the game and I’ll be introducing it to our club, we have a great 500yd range, centerfire😂 Thanks for the knowledge and the videos.
have a friend who was a marine and shoots pretty darn well. Using a 6.5 creedmoor, I shot a 5 shot, .43" group at 200 yard with a 10x scope. he joked "when I was in the marines we used to shoot at 500 yards with iron sights. I could shoot that group all day with my old m16!" I offered him my rifle to try and match my group *using* my setup, and he quiped "ya know, the older I get the better I was. but I'll let you have your victory today." love that snarky comment! god bless the marines.
Great stuff! Really like to see these competitions...makes for some awesome content...and we get to see some sweet rigs. Please continue with these sir! #voted
Erik, we love you brother and appreciate every video. It's common sportsman courtesy and proper form to not ask questions of the shooter in PRS. He's already got enough pressure on him and he don't pitch for MLB. May God richly bless you and yours.
@@ErikCortina I think your money is safe. A very skilled shooter with irons might be able to consistently hit a 6" target at 500 on a flat calm day. The smaller targets require a healthy dose of luck, all in a row. I'd bet not one of those keyboard sharpshooters will even attempt it. Any true marksman who has a chance at completing it would never make the comment about it being "easy" in the first place. He'd know better!
@@ErikCortina yeah... no one is gonna come and do that. My Marine Brothers... The M16 rifle is a 4 MOA rifle (some better). Thats 4 inches at 100 yards. You will not be able to see a 4 inch target at 500 yard let alone get a sight picture. Lets not even talk about the 2 incher. And IF YOU DID by some voodoo eye magic, the rifle you are using is a 20 inch group at that range. A national match service rifle will have a hard time holding 2 MOA. F it, lets say its a 1 MOA rifle because the armorer has a hard on for you. Thats still 5 inches. How do you think you are going to hit a 2 inch plate like that? Dudes, get off the internet and get back to the range.
@@joshuaputman8307 fair enough! the topic originated from Marines talking about 500 yards open sights. An m16 variant was the assumed. Although in this case i dont think it matters which rifle they use. Human eyes are only so good. Especially mine. im done at 50 yards lol.
It is fun to watch. To suggestions that I might make. One is paint the targets in between so everybody has a clean target to shoot at to see their impact. The second is put the timer up on the screen as well so we can see how much time is left while they're shooting. Just a couple thoughts. Thanks for the show.
I know I'm watching online, I know they're the ones shooting, I know it's already done and over with...but I still hold my breath after they push the bolt back forward and there's a silence 😆
Cody had that. His wind calls and windage dial was spot on. Every shot he had was very high hitting the top edge of the plates. That's what messed him up. All the shooters did superbly.
Our shooting club is Cold Bore Country Boys sub 1/2moa. We strive for sub half but we all know that extremely difficult. To earn our patch you have to cold bore shoot a 5” disc one try. One chance each range trip. We have had so many marines try with scoped rifles and fail. So many regular guys fail. Many many accomplished shooters fail. People don’t realize how difficult 500 can be when you start implementing precision hits.
I'll start by saying I am only a hobby long range shooter (.308, 6.5 Crdmr and 22LR) I live in the desert where it is easy ti set up 1000 to 2000 yards. With the wind shifting and gusting the hold for a hit varies so much. Holding by a wind flag at the moment seems to work for me. Dialing in wind doesn't seem the way to go.
I would love to try the KYL challenge. But I’m just an average shooter that likes to just play. Enjoyed the video. Come on everyone EC needs the likes. Let’s get them up there.
I would try it with the old enfield iron sights just for the fun of it. Hitting the first plate would be pure luck, but its not an impossible challenge.... Erik would have to help me work up a good handload for it of course.
Australian Bush Ranger, 750 yards, Standing, open sights, with one hand tied behind my back 😂 I think you’re $5000 is pretty safe Erik 🤣😂. Love the format, keep ‘em coming.
The blue gun redeemed itself big time! I watched that gun eat shit the other day on the Texas Moa challenge at 1k!! Glad to see him get a little redemption!! And major props for having the balls too do these challenges! 👍👍
5:45 that dude was one texas plinking's channel. He said he was very confident he was going to hit the target in the first couple shots and ended up missing every shot. These challenges can be hard but have some humility and then you wont look as bad if you don't perform
I would have bet money that Derek was going to hit it in less than three shots. He’s a top level PRS shooter and trainer. But, as we all know, not every day goes as planned.
Yes, we all can clean that KYL, until you pull the trigger and miss, the mind plays a different game on you, keep posting, this is really cool to watch !!
I love these KYL vids! Good stuff! Oh, I think the caveat should be put in there about the iron sights, has to be rack issue level type rifle/carbine. Nothing new/match grade. I mean that's what they are issued, shouldn't be a problem right? ;-)
I have hit 10/10 in the bull at 500 with iron sights, but I think that was more like a 6" rectangle. Pretty sure I can't consistently put them on a 2" target, even 1 or 2/10 would be tough. .303 British, 173gr boat tail. That was at the national championships after months of shooting and tens of thousands of rounds, nobody else I saw could put them in a 2 inch ring at 500, so I find it hard to believe.
Hey Erik, what about an Iron's only version just for funsies?? 6 MOA target to a 1 MOA target at whatever range, just for giggles and grins. Could even make it 22LR only at 100. I think it would be a hoot.
As not a former marine a disciple we had to complete in the navy squeals was to clean a kyl at 1,250 yards with open iron ghost sights with a shotgun and buckshot so yes it is very possible
Great challenge. I can't wait for the guy who shows up with open sights and has to stand there and explain that he has the qualities and abilities to carry this out, and secondly that he even thinks it's possible. good luck I say😂
@@ErikCortina ah I see, I’d have to have my barrel threaded for the tuner correct? Is there or could there be a version in the future that instead of the break it’s just threaded to take any after market brake or suppressor?
Real world results at an insanely difficult challenge in the wind. Would be good if a fresh coat of paint was rattle canned on for each competitor so both shooter and audience could see impact points.
@@ErikCortina Good range protocols can make the situation safe, All guns in a supervised safe Zone until directed to come forward by range officer. But I can understand if you are managing the range on your own
