If the lock is possible to take apart, you could file some false gates in the discs and have a really good bike lock. The physical security of this is already pretty good.
OMG he's married! I guess she chose him for his manners. But now has to put up with him using anything in the house for his hobby... even the ring rack gets disassembled. What will come of this... at least I assume they are still 'binding' ?
Me and my friend had this model of lock and chain on our motorbikes when they were stolen a while ago, the thieves just used bolt-cutters on the chains instead of picking it.
Jonny: ... Keep in mind ALL chains can be cut with bolt cutters of the appropriate size ... and if the thieves don't mind making noise? cordless disc grinders will cut through anything else on the market :( ... unfortunately this is why we have available, insurance for our valuables
The largest I have personally used were 72" (6 foot tall) and could cut through 3/4 steel concrete reinforcing rod with no problem .. normal use by two guys ... but a few of the biggest guys on the crew, could handle them on their own ... 60" (5 foot tall) bolt cutters are commonly available today ... I must add however these tools are very expensive and not used often used by common thieves (they would normally sell the bolt cutters first)
The previous model of this lock could be opened with a pen lid, so this is a huge improvement. Chain not the best but park next to a better bike secured with a shitty cable and its good enough. Absolutely not for motorcycles, only low value peddle bikes and mopeds. The area I live in is moderately shitty and they just go for the easier targets.
Had this exact same thing. Dickheads managed to cut through the chain itself. Didn't even care about the lock, just...yeah, found a way to slice right through it.
Here a polish guy attacking this product ... yeah grinder will cut it , but then what would it not cut ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JDD8DZ6pzI8.html 11 min clip Here Bosnianbill cutting locks and chains . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cbYVmRNzGLc.html 7 min clip
@@pete_lind fortunately / unfortunately most people that steal bikes don't care about picking locks at all, and will just attack with pliers, bolt cutters and angle grinders. at least it means we don't need super secure padlocks, and you can always buy a beefier chain. This is why its always best to keep your chain as far from the ground as possible. being able to rest whatever you are cutting on a solid surface makes it so much easier. from personal experience i needed to cut down some M8 threaded rod. the vices i have at home is a swivel vice for painting model planes and it took me 15 minutes to hacksaw through just 1. ended up taking it to work (and the same hacksaw blade) and used one of the bench mounted vices there. lets just say i had the other 3 cut to length in 5 minutes just because of a stable cutting platform.
14 months on and I've got an update on this lock. It seems that Asda in the UK are selling a Bell mini U lock and 900mm of chain called the Rampage 300 for £15.00. The U lock appears to be the same as the one Oxford sell with 1m of chain for considerably more. I've personally always favoured shorter chains because there's less for the thieves to get at. Both Bell and Oxford rate as [4] High security level. Plus, Bell are insuring it for $500 against theft of a cycle by opening or breaking the lock by force - in UK, Canada and USA except NY. Not sure if this extends to motorcycles, but it's a possible indicator of how confident they are in the lock.
are they insuring USED bikes too? because douche bag kryptonite doesn't. they want to see a receipt proving you purchased the bike brand new. so if you received the bike as a gift or found one, they WON'T insure it. that's shady low and wrong.
This was a good video and a decent lock at a fair price. I liked the pick you modified, your work looked good. I would enjoy videos on shop stuff like that ... builds, modifications, and even design. You could put your own spin, on some of what AvE does. Perhaps you could build, a ... Rube Goldberg destructive tester even?
Nice vid and workaround LPL. They're a lot more experiencive in the UK. £27 is the cheapest I've seen. That's what in Dollars? $37? Either way, I like the lock, which seems very pick resistant to ordinary mortals, but apparently according to comments, the chain is weak.
My plan is to try and get a 14mm lock with alarm and chain as they appear to be the strongest ones which I can also somewhat carry around. Then there's the good old baseball bat for if the alarm goes off at 3am.
I own a machete and ide cut the fuckers hands off if trying to steal my motorbikes ,mess with my wife but don’t touch my bikes,gota have your priorities right 😂🏍🇬🇧❤️
Really enjoy your videos, you may have already eluded to my question however what padlock would you buy to protect a bicycle. Keep up the good work love from 🇬🇧
The design of that lock looks a lot like the Bell Catalyst 550. Same body and construction but a different core. Wonder who OEMs these. Pics: imgur.com/a/AeHdG
Hello LockPickingLawyer and friends! May be you can tell, which U-locks and models for chain are more reliable and resistant to tampering and pick? I choose from ABUS, Xena, Cryptonite... Thanks and good luck!
Calling it heavy duty is a misnomer in my opinion. Both the lock and chain can be cut with a cutting disc in an angle grinder in about 15 seconds each.
Always find your videos interesting. Have you considered the hiplok bike locks? I am curious is they are more secure or mostly focused on convenience. Plus it uses a lock type I don't believe you have picked on camera before.
LockPickingLawyer Makes sense, couldn't get one as a review product from the company? I use one of their chains, its really nice to carry with me and its rated secure gold for what it's worth.
Mine is beginning to stick when I use it with my keys and it's only about six years old and I use it every day. I have to made sure it's dry and lube it but it's still sticking; is it time to get a new one?
I suspect some of Oxford security products are manufacture by a Chinese lock company Tonyon. Some of the u lock and chain are pretty similar with the same ART approval number. www.tonyon.com/test/gsl/prouductven.asp?id=495
So can you tell me, Are you showing us how difficult it is to pick this lock or how easy it is? and how many of your average crooks would have enough skill and know how let alone picks to pick these locks?
@lockpicklawer hey your videos are great. What lock and chain would you recommend for an expensive electric scooter? I am looking for something very secure
In my own opinion, that’s a good lock if you have to make your own tools to pick the lock! I guess you won’t be buying your wife any rings for now!! (just kidding!!)
Chain is great but I don't recommend the HD locks in any way as they don't stand the elements. I have had two both of which got corroded and jammed after a couple of years.
Question, I have a new york forgetaboutit mini u lock with an 18mm steel shackle I am looking for a gold standard chain that will fit through the links 1meter in length if possible, can you recommend anything, please?
TBH. I was expecting much better quality. I am very disappointed. Mine was cut using heavy duty cutters in a matter of seconds. They cut one of the links and metal just crushed.
ZeroColdx911 bolt croppers go through these chains a piece of piece if at home use a ground anchor lock, your bikes only as secure as what it’s attached to,and cover it if they can’t see it they usually leave it alone .
Hes an expert, I've been lock picking as hobby for about a year and can't do 1% of what he can do. The vast majority of criminals cannot do what he can, and anyway that chain can easily be cut no skill needed.
Foundation Galaxy so you want him to stop making videos then? These are for information regarding lock quality and for us who do lockpicking as a hobby. Thats why bosnian bill always says, STAY LEGAL
Won't pass the bolt cutters test. I guess that's to be expected, but still, don't buy it. Hell, just don't buy low/medium quality bike locks in general, spend a lot of money and get the thickest chain you can. It's worth the investment, speaking as a guy who lost his motorcycle after thieves just...cut right through it. Same one in video too (hard to tell the exact thickness. Honestly looks thinner than mine, but I've got small hands, so yeah). Oxford themselves do thicker chains that, I assume, use the same lock. Just, yeah, spend a little extra. Don't make the same mistake I did.
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