2019+ Ram 1500: New or Classic? Which should you choose? Let's find out... ➞ RealTruck: bit.ly/31sZOiU ➞ Check out the entire High Mileage Ram playlist: @TruckCentral
I got my 2020 Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman with the 5.7 hemi. I love it and it’s easy to modify and upgrade since it’s been around so long so plenty of parts.
Especially now with tough times Ram is smart have a more affordable option than GM and Ford some classics go for the same price as a Ranger and Colorado
Currently have a 2014 4th Gen Ram 1500 SLT and love it. Right now the financing is done and the truck is mine. Its done 260,000 kms (161,000+ miles) and I still love it. Just installed a 4" BDS lift it and stuff. Got some new Vland LED headlights and some 5th gen style rear lights coming in for it. I have a 10" Android head unit installed that gives me wireless Apple Car play and excellent navigation. With what I've done and what I use my truck for, I'm not feeling that makes trading it in for a 5th Gen a practical decision yet. Although, every time I see a 5th Gen driving around, I feel like I want to. Trading in for a 5th Gen would mean that I would be tied to another 5 year financing deal and it also wouldn't give me the confidence in going off road; unless I get the Rebel trim, which I plan to do. With my current truck, its out of warranty, I have a 4" lift and decent mods, that make it sort of perfect right now where I can actually start enjoying it a bit more.
I have the 2021 ram classic warlock for about a year and I love it. I prefer its exterior styling over the newer rams. My lease ends next year and Im still debating whether to keep it or buy the 5th gen, since I could use some more bells and whistles. Either way I'm satisfied with my truck. Solid, great ride and comfortable
I am thinking you can avoid ergo knee problems in the 5th gen if you can find one with a folding front bench seat like my 2020 5th gen Laramie 1500 but this option is very uncommon. You lose the cordless phone charger and super deep storage, but don't rub your knee, good for dogs, easy to move into the passenger seat, easy to get to the driver's seat from the passenger side door, folds down to a perfect height arm rest, great for dating/parking, and multiple storage compartments.
@@TruckCentral As a 3rd front middle seat, the fold front bench is a bit lacking. A small to normal sized adult could fit in a pinch but would need to duck splay their feet. It has no recline adjustment. And since there is no middle air bag, one shouldn't use it regularly as a seat for a child. A child would be much safer buckled in a rear seat plus child seat as needed.
Thank you Justin for sharing your opinions on the two Rams as I almost bought the 4th gen Ram as I always wanted one as I had a new 2008 Ram & sold it before buying my 2021 Limited Ram.
It’s so awesome that you talked about the fuel pump clicking off. It happens to me almost 100% of the time. Glad to know it’s not just me. Love the videos.
@@MrJustinWheeler mine does it every 5 litres I fill up so I pull it out slightly and try keeping the nozzle straight as possible sometimes it works sometimes not 😂
The knee could just be you getting older. Lol. I owned both. The backseat in the crew cab 5th gen makes it worth the difference to me. A lot more space and a flat floor. It's the most comfortable spot in my laramie with the reclining rear seat.
I have a 17 1500 crew cab, and the back seat is the main reason I'm looking to upgrade. The flat floor and the slightly more room makes a huge difference.
At 51, I've owned 2 trucks, my 1st one was a right off the lot new 1994, cayman green Ford ranger, manual shift, fun truck indeed, my 2nd and current truck is a 2019 Ram 1500 quad cab rwd bighorn had 8600 miles on it when I bought it in Oct 2022,,I've put 30k miles since then driving west Texas area delivering parts to paint and body shops, love the 5.7 hemi and it's a good workhorse, love it! Only had to get a new radio, thankfully it was under warranty, it is a definite upgrade from the 2002 chevy Tahoe I was driving for work lol, next up is new spark plugs and steps lol 😂
I still have 2009 ram 4th generation with my 5th 22 I take turns driving them 1 for working 09 The other for luxury 22 4th generation still running like new at 199k miles with life time powertrain warranty I just can't get-away from ram
I ordered a 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras last year great truck built it the way I wanted it 3 .55 rear axle ,posi traction ,tow package ,all terrain tires and 6 ft 4 inch box ram steps and bed liner great price 👍
@@gad44 yes the v6 is a good solid engine I tow a 18 ft lund deep v boat with no problems the truck has 11,000 miles on it no problems with it at all gas mileage is around 20 mpg city good simple truck🛻👍
I bought a very similar truck to yours but with the 3.92 rear end. My tow rating is just under 11,000 lbs but my payload is around 1,000 lbs which would limit you on the basis of tongue weight. I’m happy with it as it is a family truck with the occasional need to throw some stuff in the bed.
i got a 21 classic i love it. been my favorite vehicle. i tried the new body it was great but didn't care for it to much. mpg from i remember was a little better. but more than happy with my purchase
I had a 4th gen, 2012, for 4 yrs and now own a 5th gen. Both are 2wd quad cabs with 5.7 hemi. The 2012 had a 6 speed vs. the 8 speed in the new one. Both are great but, in contrast to you, I find the 5th gen to be more comfortable. The one negative about the 5th gen vs the 4th gen is the rear under seat storage. The 4th has a nice built in area to hold stuff but the 5th hasn't. I had to fabricate one myself out of wood and then my wife apolstered it.
A lot of people on the fifth gen rams forum say that the 4th/5th gen Alpine is much louder than the 19 speaker HK system. I too feel that the HK system in my 5th gen Laramie is not very loud at all. I was a bit disappointed when I gotr my truck. The 10 speaker Bose in my wife's suburban is even better than the new HK stereo.
I bought a 2022 Ram Classic a few months back. It still comes with the Alpine but it's an upgrade from the one I had in my 2013 Laramie. It now has Nav and Apple Carplay/Android Auto built-in so that was a huge bonus. Also this one came lifted with 35's on it, another improvement over my old truck though it's something any model can have. All in all, I lost leather seats and a sunroof, but they improved the 8" Alpine OS. After watching this video I'm glad now I didn't buy a Rebel. Aesthetically, I think the 4th gen looks better and the cloth seats are surprisingly more comfortable than the leather ones which, are no longer an option in the 4th gen classic.
Man, I agree with his comments. I had a 2014 Ram Laramie that was LOADED (before they came out with the Limited) and now have a 2020 Limited. The Alpine system sounded way better. I also had both the exhaust issues with my 2 Rams (4th Gen bolts broke, 5th Gen just had both manifolds replaced). They dynamic headlights are heads and shoulders above the 4th gen headlights. My one major complaint for the 5th Gen was going to the smaller tire size. And lastly... in my state, if you leave the vehicle unattended while pumping fuel and the attendant see you doing this, they will shut the pump off. It's the law. I have had that issue though a few time while standing there at the pump.
Sounds like we made almost identical transitions. I actually regret not keeping my 4th Laramie. It was a damn good truck, and like you said, the stereo was much better. Lol. But I love the 5th Gen and am very happy with it.
@@MrJustinWheeler I didn't have much of a choice. My 2014 needed a new wheel bearing, which my local deal replaced under my extended warranty. The problem was, they didn't bother to tighten the bolts and the bearing came out on the interstate pretty much destroying the entire driver's side up front. So I got a new one at the "We're really sorry" price.
The alpine sound system is one of the best I’ve ever heard. Had Tesla X, Escalade, CTS-V, M550D, Passat R, RAM 4th, Camaro, Corvette C7, Grand Cherokee SRT…
I have the 2020 Limited with 3:92 and I cannot be happier. To me this truck has the most comfortable seats of all the vehicles I’ve had period. I am 5’11. I traded it for my 2015 sport with the alpine system and although the alpine sounded very good, I feel the Harman Kardon is more refined, softer bass and way higher heights, although I wish the subwoofer had independent level adjustment. If I could make a change I will put the subwoofer under the seat and not behind the seat like the 5th gen current location.
Mine is that also but a bit different. 2016 sport crew cab 6.4 bed 5.7 3.92 gears 10,600 tow rating. My shop they have only seen a handful of that same very spec. They would buy the truck from me for their shop if I want to let it go,
My 5th Gen Built to Serve has the Alpine system. I also have the fuel filler problem. I’ve read the vent isn’t large enough. Finally, having had both also, the 5th Gen simply feels more refined, especially the interior surfaces.
I have owned both 4th & 5th gen trucks but at lower trim levels. Both are 2wd quad cabs with the 5.7. The 4th gen was a 2012 ST Express. No infotainment system, just a radio with cd player. No cameras at all with front bench seat. Also had a six speed transmission with a column shift. The new one is a 2022 Bighorn with 8.4 screen, center console. I don’t have many of the features that you mentioned but they are things that I really don’t want. My new truck also has the 33 gallon tank and the 3.92 rear end. My two main things I really notice about the daily driving experience are the comfort of the seat. I really like the new one much more and it holds me firmly in place better. The other is the performance. With the taller axel ratio and the two more gears, it really is much quicker and gets better gas mileage as well. Only thing I really like about the 4th over the 5th gen in the quad cab is the under seat storage in the rear. There isn’t a bin underneath in the new one and I was forced to make one. But I really love them both.
After the 2019 Ram model year til about 2022 a lot of the classic Ram pickups came in stripped down version p/us during the COVID period the classic rams didn’t even come with a sunroof and several other options I was disappointed so I bought a 2019 Laramie used in 2024 it had all the options I wanted , and under 20,000 thousand kilos got low mileage and still looks new
The fueling issue is a somewhat common problem. The dealers fix it by replacing the tank itself. It has something to do with not venting properly. Also, my 2020 BigHorn with the regular 8.4 non Alpine radio, also sucks.
I have the 5th Gen 2020 Ram Bighorn with the 5.7 with 3:92s, led lights, linex bedliner and I installed front tow hooks on it. I think the front tow hooks should have been standard equipment anyway. I'm still loving it after over 2 years and I'm still loving your videos! I hope you keep them coming!! Great job
@@MrJustinWheeler From what I gather, the tow hooks are only standard equipment on the upper models and that seems odd to me. It seems like whoever decided that is clueless when it comes to why people own trucks. Most people that buy the limited models aren't taking it through the woods down tote roads hunting and driving through mudd or unplowed snow down those tote roads where the chance of getting stuck or needing to pull someone out of those situations are great. The most expensive models with all the bells and whistles are perfect for someone spending countless hours making a living on the road with their trucks. But as for me, i'd trade out that sunroof for a set of tow hooks in a heartbeat. I don't make a living with my truck but I still use my truck as a truck so I don’t need to spend that extra $20 grand but still need to hook up a tow chain. Ahh but like anything else it depends on the individual. The short of it is, trucks should just plain have tow hooks even if it doesn't have a sun roof lol
I could never part with my 2018 ram. Hemi 4x4 leveled with 12.5"x35" tires with flares . Hemi embroidered vinyl seats , bestop canvas topper . I drive a service truck all week but I take my baby out every chance I get because I simply love driving it. I want something to break so I can upgrade it but I haven't done anything but oil changes for the last 4 years . By buddies call it the barracks cause it looks like a mini Duce n a half.
I had a 2012 4th gem Ram Laramie package, was a great truck, had only a few issues. I spent around $1,700 chasing around the EVAP problem causing a engine light (sensor), also I had it go into limp mode on me at around 50K miles, was only a $25 sensor. My 2021 5th gen Laramie Longhorn so far only has 32k miles, no issues yet. I have the Etorque option on mine. I notice I get around 20 mpg at highway speeds (around 62mph) and 15mpg in town (small town Iowa) not city. You can get 21mpg or more in you go 55mph, I cant. This is with a AFE Momentum cold air intake and a 91 octane Diablo tune. All in all, the 5th gen to me wins in: ride quality, torque(with Etorque), fuel mileage. Reliability is kind of a toss up with both trucks been low miles, 4th gen had 75k at trade in and only 32k on the 5th gen. Sound systems are very comparable, volume level 20 is the max you will go in either truck, only difference I really hear is that the 5th gen has better bass (uses two subwoofers instead of one). The 4th gen (Laramie) had a gross weight of around 6800lbs and the 5th gen (Laramie/Longhorn) is over 7100lbs. The 4th gen is older so its wins are going to be fewer but include: a higher ride height and maybe the most important one, looks. It's just hard to beat that classic body style. I wouldn't have the new body style if the interior didn't blow me away.
4th gen RAM is the winna! Better styling, aggressive bold looks like the semi aero hood fender, crosshair grille, quad cab and 6 ft. bed, and better feeling steering wheel (good looking too). Fifth gen only best the fourth gen in six lug wheels, higher payload and towing capacity, led lights, locking differential and the etorque (don't get me started on that iPad touchscreen on the dashboard)
I passed on the gas filling part... I have a C7 corvette and it does the same thing.. what I do is turn the gas filler upside-down... I know crazy right but I don't have any issues pumping FULL THROTTLE and the pump still stops it when it's full💪🏿
I bought a 2022 Lonestar loaded 2 wd and loved the ride, performance comfort. I did not like all the nanny's i.e. safety systems dictating how the truck is used. E-brake would apply if you tried to back a trailer and opened the door. Traction/stability control caused me to get stuck in sand I could have easily powered through. Storage was not well thought out. Traded for a 2022 Warlock 4x4, more truck like all the way around and I'm more than fine with that. Will not be buying another 5th gen.
Hi Buddy, I have a 5th gen Ram 1500. Can you explain about your comfort between the two? Mine is a Tradesman so it basically is setup where you can set 3 people in the front of you want. It doesn't have the center console going all the way to the dashboard which after I purchased I kinda regret because the extra center storage compacity. But was your forth gen like mine?
Just wanted to say thanks Justin! I think I've watched a dozen of your videos and really appreciate your perspective and level of detail you go into. Would love to know what the most you've towed with your goose neck was and if you had any issues?
2019 Ram 1500 Towing Test (Limited, 5.7 HEMI V8, Air Suspension) | Truck Central ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-92LjvASne10.html This was definitely at the upper upper upper limit! No issues btw… love the gooseneck!
I have never noticed that the pedal position was weird or uncomfortable. My Ram is almost identical to yours except it's a 2020 with the 6'4" bed and no Ram boxes. I'm 5'10.5" and even after driving it from Washington to Pennsylvania and back and driving a grand total of about 14,000 miles now, I never had any knee pain or discomfort in my legs.
I find that the situation is better or worse depending on whether or not I am doing city or highway driving, and which shoes I am wearing. And honestly, I didn’t notice any discomfort until after 50k miles. Hopefully it’s not an issue for you in the long term.
My 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee trailhawk has the same issue when fueling. I'll try your trick. Thank you! Enjoying your channel. Considering the 2019 Ram 1500 Bighorn. If you weren't savvy in doing so many repairs yourself, would you buy again the 2019 Ram?
I will be buying a used Ram 1500 in like 12-18 months, and like the Limited, but am worried about the air suspension. Would it be better to get a Laramie so it has the coils, when it needs fixed/replaced?
On your 4th gen 1500 did u have air suspension? If so was it good for u? Any issues? I have a 17 sport night edition ram 1500 4x4 it's been good to me so far.
I'm not a sunroof kinda guy for a truck but what I do like considerably is a sliding rear window...you didn't comment at all on that that I heard...are they manual or power...any leaking??? Can you comment on this in your next video? Thanks!!
Hey Mr Wheeler another great video, thanks for the info. Have u had any issues with people plugging into the back phone charging ports and they take over the sound system? Or anyone else on here with a 5th gen?
How is your 5th gen leather driver's seat finish holding up? My 2011 F-150 Platinum leather driver seat finish wore out very fast, cracking and peeling (traded in for my new RAM, and glad I did for various other reasons). My 2020 RAM 5th gen Laramie leather seats appear much more durable with no discernable wear with low mileage so far. Debating whether or not to get a driver's seat cover to prolong finish life, but if I don't need it I would prefer not to bother with a seat cover.
The seat is holding up very well. I am fairly intentional with the way I get in and out so I’m not constantly dragging my butt across it, but when I clean her she looks good as new.
I had a '14 Longhorn....really loved it, but got sick of sinking thousands into the air suspension. There is some things that seem a bit cheaper on my 22. The door panels in particular. I liked the layout of the door pockets better on the 4th gen and it felt sturdier as well. Also the sound system as mentioned. The sub was moved to behind the rear seats instead of under, which is nice for storage but not good for sound quality (too close to the back sheet metal and you can tell). Also, on the 4th gen longhorn the saddle bag pockets on the back of the front seats had flaps with a magnet under the belt buckle but on the new one it just looks like a flap but is just open above that like most seat pockets. Also, I had ram boxes with the longer bed which you cannot get on the 5th gen.
Hey you and me both ! Loved my 14 longhorn . But seriously fell In love with the 5th gen longhorn . Loved both . IMO the 4th gen looked more aggressive with my lift and tires
Hey Justin love the videos they are the reason i got my 2019 Ram 1500 Limited something interesting I’ve found on my particular truck is it actually has the Alpine sound system despite it being a limited maybe it just doesn’t have all the optional features but i thought the Limiteds came standard with the Harmon Kardon. Anyways just thought someone could maybe help clear this up for me. Thanks
Hey Gabe. A 5th Gen Limited with an Alpine system? 🤔. I too assumed that the Harmon Kardon setup was in all 5th gens. Does yours have the factory alpine subwoofer like the 4th gens had?
@@MrJustinWheeler actually no it doesn’t. I’ve only been able to find one other 5th gen limited that has the Alpine system on RU-vid atleast so maybe the Harmon Kardon is an optional upgrade?
Would the fob tailgate release be a hazard when you're driving? Like accidentally opening getting pressed in your pocket..or does it not work when in gear?
Doesn’t work when in gear. (Doesn’t mean it couldn’t malfunction as you described, but it’s probably unlikely). The bigger issue is that sometimes it doesn’t work while in park either… sticky/slightly misaligned latch mechanism
Great video! I bought a 2019 ram 1500 classic about a month ago and it is definitely a bang for your buck truck if you dont want to pay 5th gen prices.
Is a 2010 3.7l limited slip or open? Haven't opened the differential yet and just bought it for 4k. It has 189k on it and it's mint so couldn't pass it up. Thanks guys👍
Could be either, but most of them are open. Lift the back of the truck and spin one of the wheels. If the other one spins backwards or stays still, it’s open. Congrats on the new truck!
Same, tried the 5th gen but my knee keeps hitting the dial shifter since they put it down low. I’m 6’4 so even with the bench seat it still hits no matter how I adjust the seat.
The seating position in the 5th gen is definitely different than the 4th. I dont get any pain or discomfort, but I did like the 4th gen better for that. Im 6ft2. I love the factor rubber floor mats in the 5th gen. No more naked carpetting at the door sill to get messed up.
Funny you mentioned the fuel filling issue. I have a fourth gen rebel with the big gas tank. My truck shuts the fuel filler off all the time. It drove me nuts! I find slowly increasing the fuel flow to max over a few seconds and not putting the filler in all the way has helped. I’ll have to try your strategy next time I get gas.
yeah... mine does that too ('19 Warlock). Though the pump flow is set pretty high overall, here. Usually lifting/holding the nozzle higher/shallower does the trick.
I definitely don’t want etorque my 3 rams I did not have and I had all 3 4 th generation I want a new one but now only etorque then next turbo I don’t want that either I hope they might do the classic for 2024 no etorque I whould go for or next I whould I guess go to Nissan titan or ford 150 it sucks how ram is charging
When it comes to exterior styling I think the 5th gen was a big step back. Now it looks like an old frumpy grandpa truck. Generic. Like a modern take in the 1st gen. 2-4 gen all looked cool and different than anything else.
The dash mounted shifter SUCKS. Thats the deal breaker for me as l drive my automatic like a standard ( gear down on hills and corners. And the name Warlock is super G**
5th gen. looks like 🤮 compared to 4th..It might be better for safety or tech. Looks like a melted snickers. Sorry 5th gen owners. Ram lost its awesome distinctive "Big rig" good looks.
