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6.5 Creedmoor vs. 25-06 Rem Episode 2: Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX

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Today we're revisiting the 6.5 Creedmoor verses .25-06 Remington using Hornady ELD-X Precision Hunter Ammuniton. Do you like this ammunition? Put it in the comments below.
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@williamrauch4464 3 года назад

25--06 and the 270 are pretty tough to beat. I am suprised the 25-06 isnt more popular...amazing round

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

bullet Weight. can't get the perceived weights for larger game. BUt it does just fine with 120gr Nosler Partitions

@mikewyd53 3 года назад

I shoot 120 grain Partions in my 25-06. At 250 yards, 3000 fps muzzle velocity, I have shot through both shoulders and the spine. Bullet was under skin of off shoulder. Moose dead in his tracks. Retained weight 72 grains

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Nice shooting brother. 8 have a 115gr nosler partition video

@vincecas7 3 года назад

One of my all time favorite rounds. And agreed should be more talked aboit

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

The 6.5 records like a .243 as well. Hardly any difference

@NoTaboos 3 года назад

120gr 25-06 would have been a better comparison. Personally, I think the 25-06 is at its finest with the maximum bullet weight.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I did a much closer bullet Weight comparison in episode one

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

But I thought type of bullet would be better and right now is the only thing I could find that was the same type of bullet

@fedup3582 Год назад

I have a friend who took dozens of elk, moose, and bear, in addition to deer and antelope, with a 25-06. His preferred bullet was a 100 gr partition.

@lmbear Год назад

I totally agree. A heavier bullet in the 25-06 would have been a much better comparison. You are basically using the heaviest 6.5 creedmoor load vs a too light load out of the 25-06. However, with that being said, I wouldn’t hunt with that crap Hornady ammo/bullet if you paid me. Use an interlock at minimum, if you’re going to consider Hornady. JMHO

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

@lmbear couldn't find comparable bullet weights of the same bullet style at the time

@richki.24 3 года назад

25/06 definitely has more punch to it .. Me pick that 1 ...

@danielsteiner7634 3 года назад

Yeah I knew the 25-06 wouldn't penetrate as much. At that velocity it's going to tear that bullet apart pretty fast, and it did. Would be interesting to see the difference in penetration at say 150yrds or so.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah i should have tried that before i got rid of the 2506

@af7119 3 года назад

I'm going with 25-06.

@doejohn8674 3 года назад

Thanks for the test! Love your pictures of Alaska, keep them coming please!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Every weds morning a video

@howardhooley3408 3 года назад

The 2506 has always been under rated the 6.5 Creedmoor is over rated. I'll stick with my better of the two......2506

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Fair enough

@patrickgriffitt6551 3 года назад

Can't won't argue that(I have both). At the moment in this country we still have freedom of choice. I like both each for a different reason and purpose.

@lorent7475 3 года назад

@@patrickgriffitt6551 same here. Love my Cooper .25 06, but enjoy shooting my creedmoor long distance

@octopussmasher2694 3 года назад

6.5 is a good round from everything I’ve heard and all the stats I’ve seen but it doesn’t work miracles

@rodneyjohnson7327 3 года назад

Creedmoor isn't overrated. It is what is is. A flat shooting, very accurate all purpose rifle. You can hunt anything from coyote to Elk and anything in between.

@MrHyde-dt1sx 3 года назад

With a “good” bullet, the creedmoor will never, ever catch up to the old 25-06 before the working velocity ends.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Possibly

@patrickgriffitt6551 3 года назад

Big difference is bullet weights that are available in each caliber. The heavier the game I prefer a heavier bullet. I love velocity as much as anyone but it's not everything.

@MrHyde-dt1sx 3 года назад

@@patrickgriffitt6551 every bullet has a minimum velocity that it quits expanding. Get it??

@bwarrior6340 3 года назад

I'd say ft.lb of energy is what matters. Not velocity not weight but the combination. And then the BC if you shoot long range.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Ft. Lbs matters little compared to bullet construction you want something that stays together

@kirkgordon2146 3 года назад

I’ve owned a Ruger 2506 for 30 years and wouldn’t trade it for nothing. One of my favorite guns. Have shot several white tail deer with a friend of mines Ruger precision 6.5 creedmoor and it is a nice gun but when you can do the same thing with a gun made in 1981 as you can with a brand new gun I just don’t see what all the hype is about. It’s done became the man bun of guns lol. Was on a management hunt in west tx and over one weekend we took 19 does to help out the ranch. Like I said shot several with the 6.5 out to 400 yrds with decked out $4k gun with all the goods. All the while was achieving same results with a 40 yr old gun that I paid $450 for 30 yrs ago. Just my two cents. Loved the video though. Great info 👍

@rediron44 3 года назад

Why would the 6.5 gun be any more expensive? I've seen Rugar Americans chambered in 6.5 for sale today for $450 bucks. 450 in 1981 is about $1000 bucks today.

@kirkgordon2146 3 года назад

@@rediron44 the gun I mentioned was the Ruger precision with muzzle break , bipod and $2k scope. Don’t get me wrong it is definitely a very nice gun. I’m just not much on buying the newest hype product type.

@kearneydillon4803 3 года назад

I have owned at least one 25-06 since I was 16. One of the most underrated rounds out there. I believe if years ago, there had been a better selection of high B.C. bullets for the .25 bore, it would have been a top 5 seller. I have dropped several bull moose over the years with regular 25 cal 100gr X bullets. Dead right there. I may own a creedmore in the future, but think a 6.5x55 swedish can do everything it can do with more velocity. Probably go with a 260 or Swede. I wish this comparison test had a 24" barrel for the 25-06 to see the velocity it can achieve.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah i wish savage had put a 24" 1 in 8 twist barrel on that as well.

@garrytalley8009 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics They are all so close. The Creedmoor was designed for precision long range shooting of better BC bullets period. You can get a savage with the length barrel you want. You may have to order it, but they can be had, or you can pay for a re-barrel. It only takes money to do anything with guns these days.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Very true

@bassjohn4663 3 года назад

I love my 25-06, I only shoot reloads I like getting peak performance out of them and I’ve never had a deer get away, longest shot for me was 428 90 grain bullet and dropped like a sack of potato’s

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Nice shooting

@danwineinger4644 3 года назад

25-06 would be optimum with a 26" barrel instead of the very short 22". My PO Ackley built Mauser with a #3 barrel. Ackley did not feel improving the cartridge would improve it performance. Slow powders, 26" barrel w/100 + grain bullets.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

@Dan Wineinger agreed... this is what i had though.

@danwineinger4644 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics expeditions.. I have not used my 25-06 much in Alaska, but for all game smaller than Kodiak/Polar bear it should work well. I allowed mine to get a buildup of copper & gunpowder it took my friend nearly two weeks to get her scrubbed!

@redrider6580 3 года назад

@@danwineinger4644 Agreed on the barrel length. Agree also with the 100+ gr bullet for deer.

@alaska1andy959 3 года назад

Thanks for another great video. Been shooting both for several years, especially the 25-06 which I have been shooting since the 1980's. For the 25-06 I like using the Nosler 115 gr Ballistic Tips, getting 2,793 fps on the average. I hear you have a new mayor.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I don't but Anchorage does

@williamsain8174 3 года назад

I'm sure it's a great round the 6.5 Creedmoor but I'll stick with my 270 Winchester

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I don't blame you, I have both.

@goudan 3 года назад

Hi William, the 6.5 CM is not in the market to make you trade your 270 for it. It's a alternative caliber. I narrowed dowd to 2 calibers when i shoped for a new riffle, not to replace my 30-06, but to go somewhere else. I got the 6.5 for the lesser recoil to initiate my daughter and my GF, use it for coyote, great second riffle. 30-06 does it all like the 270 and the 6.5 can also do it all(up to 300Y) but more adapted for the girls in my life. Liking one doesn't invalidate the other, so many great calibers out there.

@fedup3582 3 года назад

@@goudan maybe the 6.5 creedmoor can do it all, but in my experience with the creedmoor and 270 and 06, it sure isn't on par, not even close.

@bobbyrobbins9816 3 года назад

Love your cartridge comparisons. I agree with you on those bullets. Great for deer and antelope, but I wouldn't personally use them on game heavier than 250 lbs. Nosler Partitions, Speer Grand Slams, and Swift A Frames come to mind for the bigger stuff. I think that the original flat based Hornady Interlock is a better big game bullet than those low drag and high drag and intermediate drag bullets. Great comparison as always.

@theorangevestarmy4255 Год назад

I killed a nice 9 pntr @456 yds, with my 25/06, 120grain Federal Fusion, that bullet stayed together, tip was bent, that's it, as it did tumble, the hide caught it on the opposite side of the deer, the buck dropped within 40 yds. Also killed a Bull Elk, @ 336 yds, on a ridge & moving. I love my 25/06 Remember, bullet placement is key

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

The Federal Fusion is one of the best hunting bullets out there.

@joztunes69 3 года назад

Nice video and pics of Alaska, but I'll stick with the 25-06, even though I own both and I also have the .308 and 30-06 and a couple of magnums. Some people like the little 6.5 creedmoor but I still say the 25-06, I'm just not going to get into the bullet weight comments because I like Nosler and Barnes and yes Hornady

@louiskiser9989 3 месяца назад

I have heard too many stories about 6.5 not killing deer imediately

@louiskiser9989 3 месяца назад

30 gr more in anything close range should win,I still say 25_06 is much the better Rifle

@AlaskanBallistics 3 месяца назад

@louiskiser9989 which is dumb because mine dropped a much larger cow caribou right on the spot. Anchored her in place. Poor shot placement, or poor bullet construction can't be blamed on the Cartridge. ELD-X bullets like this are terrible.

@robertfoote3255 3 года назад

The shining thing about the 25-06 is you sight it in at 100 yds and have point of aim point of impact to 300yds.... It shoots flat as piss on a plate! The hydrostatic shock of the 25-06 at 200&< is amazing!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Very true.

@robertfoote3255 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics 🤠 For the smaller farm fields and hilly wood lots of norther Mi......it has been my "go to" whitetail deer rifle for over 30 years... It's lack of bullet offerings to bring up it's ballistic coificent has been it's only short fall for a better distance hunting rifle. 🤠

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

The new 131gr black aces is supposed to make up for that.

@wendellbell6164 7 месяцев назад

I like that we have so many options in calibers and bullets. Kind of confusing to newer hunters but fun for us older ones.

@AlaskanBallistics 7 месяцев назад

True!

@kearneydillon4803 3 года назад

I have used a .25-06 rem on and off for 20 years here in the Northwest Territories of Canada. I have dropped 5 big bull moose over the years and it hits with authority if placed properly. I also hit a wolverine at a little over 225 yards and rolled him hard. Its a great open area gun. I always took it when wide open spaces were on the menu. (Huge frozen lakes. It's often you have to take a long shot, as a moose or wolf will be 6-700 yards away and quickly headed for tree cover. Anyhow, I reload using 100gr TSX bullets (moly coated) and with my 25" barrel the bullets are flying fast. Even big bodied moose are no match.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Barnes bullets are the bomb. Love them. Good eating from your hunts brother

@kennethblevins6172 6 месяцев назад

I have a rem mdl 700 bdl 25-06 with a 26 in barrel i bought in the 80s. It is awsome never let me down.took several deer out to 700 yds, ground hogs out to 500 yds, wouldnt trade it for a truck load of 6.5s

@AlaskanBallistics 6 месяцев назад

Neither would I that's a classic. Doesn't mean I don't like my six fives, But I wouldn't trade it a nice remington seven hundred either, caliber not withstanding.

@kennethblevins6172 6 месяцев назад

The 6.5 is a hell of a round, i have friends that will almost figh you over it,lol if us 06srs were able to shoot a 140 gr what then 😁

@kennethblevins6172 6 месяцев назад

When i got my 6.8 hells canyon i was astounded at the power it had over the 6.5 my friends were flabbergasted how it out did their 6.5 hands down

@AlaskanBallistics 6 месяцев назад

@kennethblevins6172 well yes it's essentially a short magnum.

@zxej6879 3 года назад

Got this ammo this week. I bought a Ruger American Predator 6.5CM, back in January. This is the first ammo I could get. I look forward to finally shooting this gun.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I hope it shoots well. Break the barrel in well on those rugers. Godspeed

@chrisjarvis3031 Год назад

Great job. I went with 6.5 creedmore and testing ammo now. This helps me in my decision making

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

The best hunting ammo so far for me in 6.5 creedmoor is the barnes lrx 127gr.

@titomish5914 Год назад

@@AlaskanBallistics solid copper?

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

No expanding copper

@CDinNC 3 года назад

Comparing 123 grain 6.5 to a 120 grain 25-06 would have been more credible. Hornady loads both. I’ve had both calibers. Always go with fast and flat!

@TommyboyGTP 3 года назад

On the 6.5 page on Facebook many are claiming that the M version does better than the X. Makes me wonder if Hornady got the two mixed up at the factory from the pics i've seen people posting over the last couple of years.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Good point. LRX barnes does better than both

@corbinhenrie3265 2 месяца назад

Purely a function of impact velocity/ bullet choice. One would need to shoot a bonded bullet, mono or interlock in 25-06 and use ELD-X in the CM purely based on impact velocity difference. So depends on what your doing with rifle it's hard to compare a apples to apples comparison when they rounds are so different. Love the video thanks for putting it up!

@AlaskanBallistics 2 месяца назад

I actually think you should shoot a bonded or mono in both calibers. The caribou in the freezer didn't like the 127gr barnes LRX at 288 yards from the 6.5 creedmoor. Last year's bull moose didn't like the 127gr barnes LRX from my 6.5x284 Norma either.

@EdAb 3 года назад

Out of my 18.7" Scout rifle, in 308 Winchester, the 178 grain ELD-X is king! Great penetration, beautiful expansion and unrivalled accuracy. But that's with a muzzle velocity of 2500 ft/sec. Precision Hunter ammunition is definitely meant for long range/lower velocity work. It's no wonder it had trouble "up close", with the 7mm Rem Mag. At 200 yards your 7mm has more velocity than my 308 at the muzzle! Cheers!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah I could definitely see it being a lot better with those Velocities! Thanks for watching and the comment.

@falba1492 2 года назад

To me great penetration means in one side out the other, at minimum, stopped by the hide on the opposite side. Beautiful expansion is where the bullet retains 50 to 60% of its weight, and doesn’t loose its jacket. This is not how a typical ELD-X reacts. It’s super accurate, because it’s a rebranded match cup and core bullet. Does it kill? Yes it does, but if you hit bone, or you happen to shoot large game at close range, it’s a poor choice. It might cost an extra 30 or 40¢ a pop, but there are better options. The blood shot meat alone is worth it.

@EdAb 2 года назад

@@falba1492 You didn't read what I wrote did you? What you describe are results of high velocity (over 2900 fps) impacts. Reduce the velocity a little and ELD-X performs in a class by itself. You are basically criticizing a wrench for not being a hammer. Choose the right tools for the right task.

@falba1492 2 года назад

@@EdAb I read what you wrote, but slowing down the velocity doesn’t make the bullet expand better or penetrate better. It just keeps it from blowing to smithereens at close range. Hornady advertises the bullet as a hammer, to be used effectively at maximum speed for whichever caliber it’s used for. If you have to slow down the speed because the bullet doesn’t function as advertised, you’ve turned it into a wrench. I get the allure of these match bullets for hunting, the accuracy snd high BC’s. But the day your shot is just a bit off, you hit bone, or you need a proper blood train, this bullet will not be totally effective. Keep your powder dry, and good hunting this season.

@EdAb 2 года назад

@@falba1492 Likewise, may all your hunts be successful. Cheers!

@lutherpayne9957 3 года назад

I will stick with my 25.06. The 6.5 is a good cartridge and I am sure it has a large following. If I need more knock down then I will drag out the .264 win mag. Same projectile diameter with a hell of a lot more punch.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Agreed. But my 6.5 creedmoor absolutely sledgehammered a caribou at 282 this weekend.

@bobbysmith6602 3 года назад

I have both and would rather shoot half a box of 6.5 than a single 264 rem mag lol. Mine kicks like a mule

@lutherpayne9957 3 года назад

@@bobbysmith6602 that is a Winchester love tap....It lets you know that it's better to be on the sending end than the receiving end.

@desiebare6437 3 года назад

Thank you for your information was thinking about reloading some ELD's for my 25-06 for shooting and possibly hunting. I think I'll stick with my 100 grain Barnes ttsx's I know how they work on game and won't change. Shot everything from yotes to moose with them. Will be loading some ELD's to shoot some steel out to 700 yds because their cheaper and every eld I've ever shot has been good shooters. Just wasn't sure how they would be on game. Great video keep up the good content 👍

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thanks for watching. That 100gr ttsx us an awesome load. Love my barnes bullets myself. Let me know if you capture an ELD-X past 3 or 400 yards if it does any better

@JamesTaylor-gz8le 2 года назад

You need to try some win positive expanding point.bullets I think they were only developed for the 2506 they were supposed to be better than the silver tip for a predator . 117 grain only but the best bullet ever made I think only avail for a 2506.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

@James Taylor who makes those and do they stay together?

@lancemiller9110 Год назад

Just thinking, comparing, and analyzing information from the comments of other shooters/hunters. And I am not judging or hanging the the individuals for their comments on new ideas, but curious “what works for you?” What has obviously worked for you, and why change if it works? Love my ‘06, the ol’ horse, and .204 Ruger was a test. Plenty happy with the.204 but wish I would have gone the 22/250 or .220 Swift route. There is always something to be said about the cartridges of yesteryear, and that’s why they are still around.

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Yet if they don't innovate new calibers, it's hard to sell newer rifles. Just get them all

@brentigo 3 года назад

Another great video. My Tikka 6.5 cm likes the ELDX also but your right. At close range they do not work. Lost a good red stag last year at close range. Placement was good and the stag was hurt but blood trail ran out it thick bush and we lost it. Now use Sako powerhead pro and Hornady whitetail. Lucky the rifle loves them as well and the whitetail is cheep too.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thank you for the real life application. Good to know that cheap stuff works! I actually shop that in the 1st 6.5 vs. 2506 video

@donaldanderson3249 3 года назад

I'll still keep the 25/06 with 120gr. Nosler partitions. Ive use Hornaday tipped bullets and don't like the proformence for their ammo for hunting purposes.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah I've tried the 115gr partition on a video on here.

@redrider6580 3 года назад

I shot one deer with Hornady ammo and it was the last. Shot the buck right behind the shoulder, got both lungs. It ran over 100 yards and jumped a fence before it died. Thats the only deer I had to run more than 40 yards. Most either go straight down or run 10-20 yards max.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Which bullet?

@redrider6580 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics This has been around 18-20 years ago when Hornady was making some rounds they called light magnums. They were basically loaded to max on the powder charge. The bullet was a lead nosed copper bullet. Have no idea which bullet they were loading in the 25-06 light magnum ammo at that time. All I know is it basically punched a hole straight thru the deer, not much damage to the lungs. The deer basically smothered to death because he sure didnt die from blood loss and shredded lungs. I usually loaded my own ammo at that time, but I was lazy and bought a box of factory stuff.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Their new gmx is a good bullet.

@tims.9883 7 месяцев назад

How do you like the black x1000? Had one given to me but thinking of upgrading. How has it held up for you?

@AlaskanBallistics 7 месяцев назад

On that model, there's no turret lock. So i had to wrap duct tape around the turrets to keep them from moving while on my back or on a pack

@vitalshok2238 Год назад

When you said, "this is why you always handload your ammo" I was thinking to myself, no this is one reason why I don't use Hornady ammo. Haha

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Lol why I handload barnes lrx for 4 out of 7 different calibers

@frankiejones4816 2 года назад

I only shoot Barnes ttsx or the tsx bullets did my own test thirty years ago against noslers partition bullets. Well at that time day didn't had the ttsx bullets but only tsx bullets been shooting it ever since then. But I do use hornady in my handguns for hunting. Recently I been going for the hard cast bullets now.

@kirkboswell2575 4 месяца назад

Owned a 25-06 at one time. Lovely rifle. Very accurate. Hard to get a good reload with due to its extreme overbore characteristics. 6.5 Creedmoor? Slower, yes, but MUCH more capable/adaptable than the 25-06 simply and purely because of the faster rifling twists, allowing stabilization of longer and heavier bullets. The Swedes use it for moòse. Lovely cartridge (6.5x55). The Creedmoor is essentially a short action 6.5x55. Is the 6.5 Creedmoor capable? Absolutely, but it does depend upon bullet selection. (The heavier the better).

@ralphgreenjr.2466 Год назад

The 25-06 (6.2 mm) is one of my favorite hunting cartridges. The 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x55 Mauser, .260 Remington, 6.5x284 Norma are all excellent hunting cartridges and I have taken game with all of them. However, the 25-06 is when you have to kill something in the next zip code! Hornady 117 gr SST gets it done.

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

You don't have the SSTs shatter?

@sugargoldy 3 года назад

Good video thank you I did a milk jug test with my 6.5 Creedmoor at 10 yards with those 143 ELD X and they completely fell apart and then I did it with Nosler partitions 140 grain and they held up real good but like you said that eld-x does its miracles on out there further and I also did that 140 grain SST s and they completely fell apart also

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Try gmx or barnes ttsx or barnes lrx

@YellowHammer26 3 года назад

Nice video........thanks.

@beingsneaky 3 года назад

sounds like 25-06 7-08 and 6.5mm are a matter of preference?? all are good rounds.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Pretty much!! And .308, and .260, and 6.5x284

@morigeau406 3 года назад

Have the 25-06 in a ruger m77 and a 6.5 in a howa chassis rifle. Enjoy shooting them both, but I'll grab the 25-06 just about every time. Unless it's time for the 338 win mag to say hi.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Love my .338 Win Mag

@wadebarnes6720 3 года назад

The 30 out six or the 270 brass but some reason works a little bit better than the 25 brass don't know why but it does

@nathanmanley4203 3 года назад

Well considering the eldm is a match bullet i would say that its not the best for hunting. That's why they have the eldx. Also, does anyone have any experience with sellier and bellot exergy in 308?

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

No i for s&b

@nathanmanley4203 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics lol. Trying to type on my phone with a tanker trailer is difficult sometimes

@trayvonjackson4830 3 года назад

Interesting. My personal favourite for hunting is the 8mm REM mag, although it can be tricky to locate ammo for it.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I bet. Into reloading?

@inupik23 Год назад

Just picked up a 25-06 a couple days ago! Looking forward to loading for it!

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

What barrel length is it?

@inupik23 Год назад

@@AlaskanBallistics 24" It is a 1971 Remington 700 BDL she's nice.

@inupik23 Год назад

@@AlaskanBallistics you trying to do some tests on a proper length barrel? 😉

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Possibly

@inupik23 Год назад

Let me know. We might be able to arrange something.

@mericankid3567 3 года назад

What bullet brand/type would you recommend to stay together for white tails under 75 yards? Core lokts or..?

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I'd say barnes lrx or ttsx. Honestly whitetails are tough animals for their size. Making sure you've dumped a ton of energy but also have a pass through where they will bleed and drop blood pressure is important. Corelokt may do that at that range but are extremely inconsistent. If you're looking for cheaper rounds I'd say federal fusion or hornady interlokt

@AlphaRomeoOneFive 3 года назад

Another solid video as usual, thanks Chuck 🦅🇺🇸

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thanks brother!!!

@bhunterbmw335is2 2 года назад

Bullet construction is sort of important but people seem to somehow forget that if u shoot anything with a full power rifle cartridge it’s pretty much fucked

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Maybe... but without proper expansion and through & through penetration, that chest cavity mainstains blood pressure and the animals run, even if their organs are shattered

@justinflud3415 3 года назад

Have you done any tests with the sst line of bullets? I'm new to your channel so I don't know if you have in the past

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

One old one in .338 win mag. I have some to load up in 6.5

@sidbates3423 2 года назад

Well dang man I got a savage 110 tactical 6.5 CM with a 24 inch barrel and it shoots these Hunters sub MOA at 100 I haven’t dropped a deer yet here in GA yet but I’m loving this gun, I’m not a reloader but I got mad respect for you guys that do, I think that’s an awesome skill and should be taught.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Agreed. These bullet stink for hunting. Take brainstem shots if you can. Guns that like the eldx also tend to like the barnes 127gr lrx

@sidbates3423 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics dooly noted I’ll try them

@kathyortiz8774 Год назад

I love my 25-06, and use it for all hunting, except elk, for which I break out my 7mm Rem Mag for that extra margin. Joe

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Great choices. Hunt well my friend.

@mr.mr.3301 3 года назад

I wonder if the spread has to do with the barrel heating up. I’d be curious if you shoe. Waiting a while and shot again if groups would be more consistent

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Maybe

@eskimoreloader Год назад

When in doubt use Barnes I'm from the Baffin Island Arctic circle

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

I use barnes too. What do you hunt way up there?

@adude7050 3 года назад

Great video I enjoyed the test thanks.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thank you!

@matortiz2322 3 года назад

This video makes me wonder why the non 223 hunters choose 22-250 for coyotes and not the 25-06

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I wouldn't either. Natives hear like the .22-250 for seal hunting

@mot0rhe4d40 3 года назад

Both would serve the role well for yotes. I think some prefer the 22-250 for a couple reasons. Less cost over all is one that comes to mind.

@stevietate5748 Год назад

I've used everything from 22 hornet to 340 weatherby including 223, 22-250, 220 swift, 243 win, my favorite is the 25-06, I've not used a 6.5 creed but have used 6.5x55. The 25-06 has become my personal favorite for everything from ground squirrels to deer. 85 grain ballistics tips for animals up to coyotes, 115 or 120 partitions for deer. Still waiting for my once in a lifetime moose tag but elk are no problem if you take good shots and place the bullet properly.

@klevee6076 3 года назад

Gotta have a caveat or two. Same brand is great but the bullets gotta be consistent as well. The 25-06 has some excellent new bullets out there and if a guy is reloading the 25-06 will smoke the creedmoor. There's no replacement for displacement

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Well we're testing factory ammo most hunters don't handload. With handliading I'm sure i can get any caliber to smoke another caliber. Too bad God bullets aren't available in factory 2506

@redchode911 Год назад

dead deer for both out to 600 yards...cartridge availability is another consideration in my area South Texas

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Very good point

@inalaska1709 3 года назад

I guess I’m simple when it comes to hunting rifles. I use a 338!win mag for boos and larger. 200 yards and in, head or neck shots. If you need to shoot a moose at 400 yards just aim at the top of the hump. I have used a 308 Norma mag for boo and moose before and it works just fine. I would like to get a 300 win mag, because ammo for the Norma is expensive and can be hard to find.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Love my .338 as well. Got ax whole playlist on it.

@T-DsGaming 3 года назад

I have both so I just use which ever I'm in the mood for. SO many mixed reviews if this ammo, some it works good some it doesn't even work at all. Hornady has great ammo but these ELD-X seem to have a high failure rate. On that note heavy and slow penetrates fluid better.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

That'll work

@rediron44 3 года назад

The best one is the one who feel the most comfortable with, and you shoot the best with

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Amen

@patrickgriffitt6551 3 года назад

That's the whole ball of wax right there.

@farmallover4859 3 года назад

Someone needs to address the new 131 gr bullets for the 25-06... I think in today’s new technology the 25-06 has a lot of potential due to higher bc bullets compared to back in the day... my next built would be a T/C contender with a MGM barrel with a 1-7 1/2 twist

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah you have to have the 1 in 8 twist rate at least for those

@christopheransell2179 3 года назад

While the Creedmoor is harder hitting, I'll take the 25-06 any day. I prefer the old tried-and-true vintage calibers. If I was shooting less than 200 yards I'd use a 257 Roberts...

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Fair enough. Godspeed to you and yours!

@user-vf2hq3xg9c 3 месяца назад

My 25-06 gets 3150fps with the 120gr.. Speer Sbt & a full case. Of Retumbo ! As a hunter, why do I need a 6.5 Creedmoor ?

@AlaskanBallistics 3 месяца назад

You don't

@AlaskanBallistics 3 месяца назад

But that being said you could get the creedmoor close with a 120gr handloaded and assuming a 26" barrel in both.

@shanegridley4922 7 месяцев назад

Thank-you 4 testing this particular ammo--I will not waste my hard earned money on Hornady precision hunter ammo--not impressed--I do have that Savage Axis accu-trigger in 25-06

@AlaskanBallistics 7 месяцев назад

Yeah I'd go with the nosler partition or the new barnes lrx in that caliber.

@susangolden4001 10 месяцев назад

How about using 26" barrel with 25-06, 130 grain bullet with a 1-7.5" twist in barrel. Now run the numbers and see how it matches up. J.Au-en

@AlaskanBallistics 10 месяцев назад

Got one I can borrow?

@vitalshok2238 Год назад

I always recommend Barnes ammo. Just can't beat it

@AlaskanBallistics Год назад

Totally agree. Barnes LRX is all I shoot

@cory8791 3 года назад

Great vid!!!!!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thanks man

@matthewmichaels5522 2 года назад

Just got me a new Rem 700 6.5CM. Haven't fired a shot yet. It'll need to be a beast to beat my 25-06

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Well unless you got a 26" 1 in 8 twist barrel 25-06... it'll rival it. Maybe not beat it with every load.

@matthewmichaels5522 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics 26" but not sure of twist rate. Maybe 1:12? Ruger M77 Mk2

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

So you can't shoot the new high b.c. 131gr bullets to match the high b.c. if 6.5

@larryplogman7997 2 года назад

Handicapped the 2506 from the beginning with that 22in barrel still the velocities are impressive! Now give it a 24in barrel like it's mainly used in and let's do this comparison again!

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Got a 25-06 24" barrel i can borrow. Don't forget the 6.5 creedmoor will do better in a 24" barrel as well

@andygray5172 3 года назад

My group killed 4 speed goats this year with the 130gr eldx 6.5 grendel between 60 and 300 yds. We recovered 2 bullets from 175ish yd shots. Although they starting to separate they still went from brisket to back ham. The shot at 60yds was a little far back but still in the chest, it broke 4 ribs on the exit and bullet fragments went into liver and paunch. One goat was killed with a 308, 150gr nosler ballistic tip at 180 and I felt performance was similar to the eldx (too destructive but not terrible). Next year I will be loading accubonds but I if eldx was all I could find I would use them again on goats but probably nothing bigger.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Cool man. I like the accubonf long range. Just filmed a video with it. If handload it. Gonna be a 6.5 vs 6.5x284 Norma video.

@andygray5172 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics the 6.5 284 is a bucket list rifle for me! Can't wait to see the video.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Couple of weeks

@elizabethnybeck9935 2 месяца назад

Love my 25/06

@AlaskanBallistics 2 месяца назад

It's an awesome caliber

@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад

Not too bad. We just returned from elk hunt out west. 300 win mag 200 eld-x. 300 yards. No bullet recovery. Dropped animal.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Glad it worked for you? Pass through or shatter?

@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics only 300 yards hit leg bone & passed through. Damage of leg was pretty bad. But can't blame bullet for it.

@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics We were using 308 with Superformance SST originally. But I was carrying rifle when coming out of mountain from morning hunt and lost my footing. I went down hard and rifle barrel smacked rock. I assume zero was compromised and AZ has a serious fire restriction now so I couldn't true my rifle in field. Hunting partner loaned us his 300.

@robertvasquez240 2 года назад

I wouldn't opt for either round or caliber. I would go with a .270 WIN, .308 WIN, or a .30-06 Springfield chambered rifle with a minimum 150-180 gr. bullet weight and probably a Nosler Partition or a Remington Cor Lokt bullet design for medium-sized to large game (maybe a 200-220 gr. bullet weight with a .30-06 Springfield for large game) within 200-250 yds. to keep the energy levels fairly high upon impact. Interesting videos!

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

That's fair and had worked for decades! Godspeed and good hunting my friend

@kevinburnett3862 3 года назад

New sub here. Awesome stuff. Love your videos. I have been shooting these same shells in both mine not really impressed on the accuracy now I know how the bullets perform. Wanting to test the Hornady GMX bullets loaded in the Outfitter factory offerings but can’t find any in stock. Guess I’ll stick with Nosler partitions and Federal Fusion this year.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

The gmx goes faster in the superformance line, I'd go with those. But yes nothing wrong with nosler partitions or federal fusion. I've got a 6.5 creedmoor vs 7mm-08 video with the fusions, and a couple of stand alone videos with the nosler partitions in.25-06, 7mm Rem Mag, and .338 win mag

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thanks for subscibing and the comment!!!

@Me2Lancer 3 года назад

Enjoyed your presentation. I like both cartridges. Creedmoor won this one. Have you tried Hornady GMX, monolithic copper?

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

In the 6.5 vs. 270 video yes

@Leverguns50 3 года назад

I don’t think I’d use the 6.5 Creedmoor because it has also failed at long range to expand, Plus I never shoot past 200 it does come in a lever actions The BLR

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

And the Henry long ranger

@groundpounder24365 2 года назад

I recently harvested a doe at 100yds with my 6.5 with the eldx and I must say I was very impressed.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Good for you... my cow caribou at 212 yards was shredded and too much meat damage. Barnes LRX does way better

@groundpounder24365 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics took doe # 2 & 3 within minutes of leaving that comment

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Congratulations and does is not what this video is pertaining to as mentioned. But eat well my friend

@groundpounder24365 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallisticsguess I'm confused by that comment..anyhoo..yeah they perform well

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Oh wrong video. I was saying in a recent video that eldx was no good for large game. Does don't count as they're not really large game.

@kentuckywindage222 3 года назад

I always loved the 06, but 6.5 gets the nod here. That 6.5 and a good bullet(monolithic?) would be excellent! 🤔 Dang Alaska I have my loading gear for .308 Winchester, .243 Winchester and .223(5.56). After this series I'm wondering if maybe the 6.5 would do everything the 243 and 308 do? Well close, because of bullet selection. With the 243 and 308 I can go from 50ish to 200+ in bullet weight with a plethora of bullet constructions. I also have to consider recoil due to being banged up. Still a thought?!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah i wouldn't rule it out... as a one bug out rifle it's a good compromise between the two. But the heavier bullets in .308 for Alaskan bug out... 6.5 doesn't kick much more than .243 and less than 308. This GMX seems to be great penetrator.

@kentuckywindage222 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics Dang dude you were supposed to say something along the lines of, yep I think you are better off were you are with what you've got! But hey, being as how we humans are in general never satisfied.........well here I am?!🤣🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 🇺🇸💯🇺🇸💯🇺🇸💯

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yeah nothing wrong with either.

@johnmetz1158 3 года назад

The 6.5 does edge out the 25.06, But not enough for me to run out and get one , I really like my 25.06

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Fair enough. I don't blame you. What load do you like in .25-06?

@johnmetz1158 3 года назад

Well, I don't hand load, Unfortunately, But I really like Hornady 100 grain the best, The accuracy is unbelievable

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Awesome man

@benkrage4 2 года назад

Moved to Alaska 5 years ago and have both the 6.5 CM and 7mm RM. I really appreciate the info. I took out my Caribou last year with the 7 RM at 200+ and the 175 ELD-x round went right through from a tikka t3x superlite. What gr were u using

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

162

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

I've switched to barnes LRX. Much better performance

@benkrage4 2 года назад

I am playing with the Barnes bullets but I think I’m going to have issues with how light they are; 145&150 gr

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

That's silly... bullet construction is way more important than weight. The 139gr barnes LRX is a fast superior penetrating and expanding bullet to a 175gr lrx.

@benkrage4 2 года назад

I agree about construction but from my experience, the tikka’s 1:9 1/2” twist ratio slings the heavier grain bullets more consistently. I tested fed 165 gr gold metal match, 162gr Hornady sst superformance and Winchester 175 gr superX’s. The Hornady and federal ammo were 1 - 1 1/4 MOA but the superX’s had all three shots under 1/2 MOA.

@Eric--zs6um 2 года назад

The 2506 destroys bullets with speed like the 7mm mag. If we slow them down to the same velocity, the there would probably be little better penetration.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Or didn't use the eldx lol barnes!

@Eric--zs6um 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics no doubt there. They work very well for groundhogs in PA. I re load 100gr partition for deer

@southerntriplej8061 2 года назад

They are both good deer cartridge. I don't think the deer would know the difference. But while hunting in a south Georgia management area many years ago, my buddy stopped the truck and shot a illegal doe at 7 power poles away down a power line. I absolutely couldn't believe it. I don't know how far it was for sure but it was so far I wasn't concerned about him actually hitting anywhere around her. But to my amazement she drops right there with a high shoulder shot. So I have to say the 25/06 will at least kill a doe at too far for anyone who has a ounce of sense would shoot. I do like the creedmoor. I got 2 - 6.5 Grendel's and they do a good job for me out to 250 yards the creedmoor is a bit faster than that so out to 500 I think it's a good choice. I still like the 7mm08 or rem mag better than both for killing stuff.

@alanpennick1764 3 года назад

I have the 2506 and shoot hornady 117 grain supererformance great whitetail round shot six deer with it the farthest one traveled 30 yds some only took a few steps all shots were broadside chest shots

@alanpennick1764 3 года назад

Forgot to mention all shots under 100 yds

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Bullet didn't rip apart ? SST?

@alanpennick1764 2 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics bullet went through one one deer found red tip in meat

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

Cool

@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449 3 года назад

Quick question it may sound dumb but I haven’t followed your channel for long... do you also personally reload your own ammunition and if you do would you ever videos on comparing them to factory ammunition brands?

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I'm getting back into reloading... got everything i need but a bench

@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics oh sweet yeah I got into it this summer with ammo being the way it is I’m 22 and haven’t been of legal age in California to own stuff that long but now I do and it’s liberating but I’ll be leaving to NV soon anyway, but anyway yeah I’d love to see your reloading videos if you ever make some... I made a bench for my Hornady AP LNL and Hornady Single Stage out of scrap 2x4s from a door we ordered for our house (the 2x4s acted as a shipping frame for the door that were ours to keep when we installed the door which was dope) but anyway hope that gives you an idea of a bench if you need it haha

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thanks man. Congrats on soon to be getting out of the Caliban. I reloaded before my divorce and move up here in 2013. Bench and stuff stayed down south

@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449 3 года назад

@@AlaskanBallistics Where’s down south for you like southern AK? And I’ve been to AK and loved it would definitely go back with guns now that I’m old enough... And haha Caliban I like it, yeah man thankfully I live in a super red part of CA I even have a CCW where I live but I’m ready to get outta here anyway cause it’s gotten bad everywhere here

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I'm from Georgia

@joshclemons9975 10 месяцев назад

Just curious how do you know one didn't expand in the elk, did you recover the bullet

@AlaskanBallistics 10 месяцев назад

Caribou... no straight pass through

@Hudge76 3 года назад

6.5 creedmoor for the win. Have you done any ELD-X tests on larger rounds, say the .338 Win Mag? I carried it this year for bear here in SC AK, but will be going to partitions or something else next spring.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Yes and don't carry the eldx in .338 win mag, it's even more terrible. Check out the video. Whole 338 win mag playlist.

@Hudge76 3 года назад

Found the videos, thanks!

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Thank you! I was about to post a link. I've killed a small grizzly with the 250gr partitions.

@scottzipperer6146 2 года назад

I reload myself and 3300 or just a little less is standard group size of a nickel at 100yds

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

What weight bullet?

@JamesTaylor-gz8le 2 года назад

2506 is cool bc it looks like sharpshooters cartridge It gave my brother the worse childhood gun obsession. I ever seen then he inherited it from grampa, a 700. bdl . Med brown stain. Down fall the rifling only lasts half as long as a 3006.

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

That's true, true with .270 as well

@chuckydubree1925 2 года назад

I have seen very few calibers that I don't like I gotta get me a 25-06

@AlaskanBallistics 2 года назад

They're nice. Get at least a 24" barrel if not 26"

@jerrywhite4497 3 года назад

I have a early 70s H&R 25/06 Mauser with a factory Douglas barrel and it's a tack driver. Dang thing weights 9-10 pounds. I'll never sell or trade it.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Sounds accurate !!

@justinfore1640 3 года назад

270 wssm needs more love

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Got one for me to borrow?

@tobylynn75 3 года назад

Ammo shortage so bad here that not even shotgun rounds can be found.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Understand that. That's about all that's left here.

@shannmartin9361 3 года назад

I own both 25.06 and 6.5Creedmore let the daughter use my creedmore 130grn Berger bullets and bagged her 1st deer at about 260+yrds good shot through front shoulder ran 20yrd and died. But my 25.06 ive killed bull elk with 120grn Partitions 1 shot kills, numerous whitetail, mule deer & antelope, coyotes with 110 Accubonds and I've never been let down by my 25.06 I also load 110 Accubonds in my .257 weatherby it's my primary wolf goat sheep and caribou rifle. I'm a huge fan advocate and supporter of the .25 bores. But like everyone else I feel the 25.06 could eek out a bit more performance with a 130 grn bullet. Come on Nosler/Barnes get with the program.

@JHolder1422 3 года назад

i love my 25-06 but i would really love to see Hornady come out with a heavier eld-x or Nosler come out with a heavier ABLR... Something in the 130 range would be fantastic.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Eldx will break apart like vmax at short range. The accubond long range is a good bullet. Just did those in a 6.5 vs 6.5x284 Norma video

@sancharino6878 3 года назад

131 ace blackjack. Google it.

@dustinpomeroy8817 3 года назад

What the other guy in the comments said

@dustinpomeroy8817 3 года назад

After doing a little research because honestly I've never shot the Black Jacks,I correct my statement, I was reading that in order for the 06 to appreciate the 131s they recommend a twist rate of 7.5,most factory 06s come with a 9 or a 10 so unless you have a custom barrel these bullets will do you no good

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

Pretty much same thing with the 170gr .277 bullets

@jesseg6708 3 месяца назад

Would use whatever I have ammo for

@AlaskanBallistics 3 месяца назад

Not a bad strategy

@malcolmpayne9517 5 месяцев назад

The 25-06 would've performed better if you had used a 120 grain bullet. They penetrate deeper than the lighter grain bullets. The 6.5 creedmoor was shot into the thinner part of the ribs, and the 6.5 creedmoor is 33 grains heavier. It was obvious that it would penetrate deeper. The lighter grained 25-06 ammo that's designed with polymer tips are nothing more than varmint bullets. The 25-06 shines with 115 or larger grain bullets with styles like accubond, tsx, core lokt, fusion, or winchester silvertips. Don't get me wrong, the lighter bullets will kill deer in the 25-06, but it shines in the heavier weights. I use my 25-06 on varmints mostly, but have killed deer and hogs with it. I own both of these calibers, but I lean towards the 25-06.

@AlaskanBallistics 5 месяцев назад

I've got a video on the 115gr partitions from .25-06. Any light non bonded ballistic tips are terrible for hunting larger game in my opinion regardless of cartridge they're fired from. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.

@malcolmpayne9517 5 месяцев назад

@@AlaskanBallistics I completely agree. I'm a subscriber and enjoy your content. Keep up the great work!!!! 👍

@AlaskanBallistics 5 месяцев назад

@malcolmpayne9517 thank you kindly sir!