6.5 Creedmoor | Why Do Some People Dislike It? | My Experiences. 

When the 6.5 Creedmoor came out, it was touted by the writers and folks that understood what it was and why it was developed. Your average deer hunter and shooter looked at the specs didn't understand what all the hoopla was for when clearly their old '06 and .270 outperformed it. And in reality, if you already have one of those calibers and like it there is no reason to trade it in for a Creedmoor. What the Creedmoor is is the first commercial cartridge developed by championship marksmen and Hornady to optimize high BC projectiles with fast twist barrels, along with chamber and throat tolerances that reflects the capabilities of modern CNC technology. All in a compact package that allows you to fit those long bullets in a short action magazine, and gives decent barrel life. The concept of starting slower and finishing faster is a hard one to wrap your head around but that's what the Creedmoor does. It's very easy to control, most rifles shoot it extremely accurately due to the chamber, throat and barrel being specced out right from the very beginning. I was an early adopter of the.260 Remington. Yes, it's a fact that the .260 is about 150fps faster but that's in a custom rifle with a custom chamber and throat. Reality is that the long BC bullets have to be seated too deeply in the .260 to fit in a magazine, negating any real velocity advantage. That and most will find the accuracy nodes for both calibers is 75-150fps off maximum, their performance is nearly identical.

You are exactly right on not being finicky. I run the same load in my hunting rifle and in my prs gun and use 143 gr eldx over RL 17. I love my 6.5 creedmoors

6.5 cree. Is a damn good round, some pretty damn good shooting as well!

Afternoon Dave!! Hahahaha. Great opener!!🤟🏽😜🤘🏼 I have a couple pounds of Sta-Ball. Have t tried any yet 4350 is working SO WELL.

That's some really good shooting and it is a great performer for accuracy and longer distance shooing on targets. I own one myself as I was looking for a nice package from Savage with a diamond back scope fluted and threaded barrel special stock and it was 600 with taxes. I couldn't pass it up so I drove for two hours and visited my son in Owensboro KY. It was at their Academy Sports outfitters he checked it out before I went down there to get it.

I'm a convert also. My son and his wife started shooting a Tikka and a Bergara in 6.5Cm many years ago, absolute deer slayer. It was just another flavor of the week to me after shooting National Match for 30 years with my Garands and M1a's. They beat me up so much I found a friend with a Savage 12FV in 6.5Cm that hated the 26" heavy barrel and stated it wouldn't shoot. Long story short he never cleaned it, I took it home for $300. After a week of scrubbing I loaded up some Ammo with some old 748 I had and some cheap PPU 120gr OTM bullets I got from Graf's, cheapest I could find and mounted a Vortex 6x24x50 on it. After a very short break in to familiarize myself with the rifle it put it's first 5 rounds sub 1/2moa at 100. I loaded up some rounds with some 760, same result just faster. All with a mid charge of powder loaded at a COL of 2.750". I had 3lbs of StaBall 6.5 so I loaded up some with the 123gr Hornady Interlock, same result, the only powder the rifle wouldn't shoot was the Superformance. I went back to the 120gr PPU bullets and that rifle, Tupperware stock ad all, if I do my part, using 748 powder shoots 3/8moa on a regular basis and the StaBall is right there too. At 300 my failings become abundantly clear with my heartbeat giving me fits but that is no fault of the rifle or round and it's comparatively cheap to shoot. What's not to like ?

Dave. Good video. Great shooting with all of the different loads. Thanks for sharing and take care.

Good video Dave, Love my 6.5 & 6 Creedmoor!!! My 6.5 I also use SatBall 6.5 @ 40grs.with 129SST! My best groups were with Varget @ 34.4grs. I got 1/2" groups.

You make it look easy to shoot good groups, good job making the point why everybody loves the creedmor

Good stuff Dave!

Dave Great Video! It's not that people dislike the 6.5 CM it's all the articles on Outdoor life and F&S .and others on how the 6.5 CM is the Cats Meow. Better than all the others . I like how you presented it. Good Shooting and Happy Independence Day.

You are rocking a precision tool there, Dave. Then again, maybe it's the Man 👍

I love the 6.5 bullet! I do prefer the 6.5 grendel because i can fit it in an AR platform and i can load it with half the powder. Been using 120gr ELD Match with 2520 and getting beautiful results! God bess ya sir! Happy Independance day!

Great video Dave & a very good point ," Don't dislike it before you try it " ... I've always been pretty keen on the 6.5 creedmore but now the 6.5 PRC has caught my attention.....

6.5 Creedmoor Is an excellent caliber. It gets a lot of hate because so many went gaga over it early on. Additionally there still exists a prejudice with many against mm nomenclature and 'European' calibers. Many resent the dearth of available ammunition too. I warrant not many who own and shoot 6.5 Creedmoor have abandoned it. I'm very happy with my Winchester Mod 70 Supergrade and it shoots any good factory ammo reasonably accurately.

Good shootin'. Love the horseshoe tacks!

I was under the impression it's one of the most popular recent cartridge's. So much so I went 6x47 Lapua. I like being different.😁 The 6x47 is also fairly efficient with powder and in my case it's not for hunting. Great video as always!

Having pushed the limits of this cartridge over 2200 yards. I've always said the Needmoor is a great cartridge and yes there's better choices for those distances. What the Creedmoor offers is the ability to push the limits of the shooter with a less picky round. Reading some of the comments (entertaining) what folks arnt talking about is the availability of the cartridges in their rebuttal.... as of today 6.5 Creedmoor ammo can be bought at any major online retailer. As for components, well buy the ammo and save the brass. Powders like Hybrid 100v, R16, R17, SW Long Shot, 6.5 Staball, IMR or H4350, N550, IMR Enduron. I can keep listing powders that all work well from expirence in this caliber

Thank you.

Excellent Thank You 🙏

Dave ,I just don't need one with two 7mm08 , two 308 ,a 243, 2506 ,257 Roberts, 3006 and 300 win, but need hasn't got anything to do with it. Enjoy your July 4th

I bought a Savage 6.5 cm because i did not have one and after i got it i liked it so much i bought a Ruger and i like them both but i target shoot with them mostly

Hey Dave nice shooting. No doubt that will work . Since you like trying different powders for your 6.5 try you some reloader 26 in that 6.5. A shooting buddy of mine getting Great accuracy and way into the 3000 fps range. Low sd's and es also.

I've switched from .308 to 6.5 creedmoor for hunting. Hornady 129 gr is my bullet choice for hunting and I see no difference in bringing down a deer with this cartridge compared to .308 on deer.

You cant deny its a good round for what it is. I just got sick of all the fan boys and wannabes talking about it. The over exaggeration of its capabilities was also off-putting and made me sick of hearing about it. It made me not want one honestly. I ended up going with the 6.5x47 lapua instead. It's nothing new either, so when it started gaining popularity and all the hype started, I was like come on people its not the only one. But, I think the ammo and twist rate selection from rifle manufacturers provides something for people that don't reload and don't have custom built rifles that the 260 and 6.5x55 swede didn't offer. That's what seems to seperate it.

What's wrong with the 6.5 Needmore is not so much the gun/cartridge but the people who are misusing it. Folks are trying to bump off elk at 400 yds or worse with it. The wildcat .250 Savage AI comes closest to resembling the 6.5. A mere .007" difference in bullet diameter. NOBODY is hunting elk with a .250 Sav AI. Yes, the bullets are far sleeker and so carry their energy much better in 6.5. Still. I had a 6.5 CM for awhile. I shot it. I yawned. I sold it. Out to 400-500 yds (sensible hunting ranges), it can't match the .25-06. At that range, velocity trumps ballistic coefficient. Thumbs up, Dave!

Lord willing, planning on building a LR308 budget gun. Back and forth between 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Not a reloader. Would be a Tennessee whitetail woods gun. Leaning toward a 16 inch 308, but like the Creedmoor. Wonder what the shortest AR barrel a 6.5 Creedmoor would still be good at, say 500 yards or less. Thanks for the video. The 6.5 C is definitely legit.

Nothing wrong with the round. It's just been pushed as a long range hunting caliber. Which it is not. It's a long range paper puncher and does a great job at that.

Gods Grace to you as well, I liked your video and the 6.5 caliber, was wondering what size barrel length were you using ? and would like to see the same type video with a suppressed 6.5 rifle as well Peace. .

Thats @ 100 Yds. People. Thats dome G00D SHOOT'n 😱😉

IMO the 6.5 Creed was overhyped in the beginning and now their is a backlash to all the hype. It’s a great round for whitetail, hogs, and antelope inside 500 yards. It is not a great Elk round. It is not a great round for shooting animals at 800+ yards. It’s basically a 260 Rem designed for heavier 140 grain bullets, it is what it is. I personally really like it as a antelope/ deer gun at reasonable distances.

I think the 6.5 Creed is an inherintly accurate cartridge. Much more so than the 6.5 PRC. Just watch Johnny's and the other reloading channels. By the way, you should get a roll of florescenet orange 1 inch sticky targets to stick on your printed blacked out bullseyes. Would be much easier to see.

you make good shooting look effortless, guess the years of shooting is paying off!

I do wonder this: is it better than my 260 Remington Varmint? Kind of irrelevant since I don't shoot it anymore. I just don't see the Creedmoor improves on it

You wouldn’t shoot every game with a 338 Winchester Mag. It’s not meant for all sized game. Same thing for the 6.5 Creedmoor

The reason I don't like the creedmoor is cause I'm a 30 cal guy I've always been that way so obviously I'm going to favor the 308 or 7.62x39 if I wanna take the recoil down that being said I admit the creedmoor has better accuracy at distance I just like giving the new age people a hard time while bragging about the old school 30's 😅 if I ever made fun of somebody I was shooting with that had a creedmoor it wasn't cause I was serious he made a good decision

i was a hater of the 6.5 untill i tried one.....but not anymore !!

To much overhype for to long. It got its fame for punching paper at the creedmoore shooting range which it was specifically built for and then people wanted to hunt with it, and they did. They took animals larger than what was ethical with it, and then bragged about it. It is a wonderful deer rifle up to mule deer, after that I wouldnt personally hunt with it. I have seen enough videos of hunters say it wasnt enough for elk and moose after they shot it to not use it again for those large animals.

Way back when...when I was competing across the course, the 7.62 NATOwas KING. Perhaps the older fellas that cut their teeth on the M1 or NM m1903 and the 173 gr 30-06 hated having the m14 and .308 shoved down their throat as much as THIS homebound old fart hates having a wet behind the ears kid tell me how the Creedmor is gonna take over the world... My own journey down the .264 caliber road started back in the early 80s with a custom 96 Swede carbine. Had at least one in the rack ever since, but had em all docked so the herd don't get no bigger what it is. Besides, this old fart really prefers his .257 Roberts!

too pricey and hard to come by...stick with .308