I have worked up some nice loads for my AR308 with 125gr OTM from .300BLK and they are doing right at 3100fps. After testing on water jugs I and going to try them on whitetail this year. I think they will do great on lung shots for the small eastern deer I hunt, and the recoil is .223 like.
Great accuracy! I'm sure your skill and ability have a lot to do with it though. Have you found any problems with magazine wiggling in the well? Another reviewer noticed it with the rifle he was reviewing and believes it may have been an isolated problem. He also had a problem with inconsistent accuracy and thought that the 2 problems could be somehow related. However, that was chambered in .300PRC.
No I have not noticed "mag wiggle". My rifle, like any rifle does prefer some ammo over others, but all in all, I have to say my rifle is consistently a 1 MOA rifle and more than satisfactory for my hunting uses. studio.ru-vid.comPLXqfgzMyk7eEau_mpD6ys0qUmXrxSCE1B/edit
Hey Dave! I bought a 243 for my daughter for deer hunting. I am researching bullets for reloading for it, have you used the 90gr sierra tipped game kings for deer with the 243? I haven’t ever used a tipped bullet for deer, usually just a soft point in my 30-06 and have never had to track a deer they always drop right where they are standing. Wondering if these sierras would be a good option for the 243?
No I have not as of yet used the 90 grains bullets on deer. I have used the 95gn. Hornady SST and the 95gn. Nosler BT. Best wishes for your daughters deer season.
Very true. Both Varget and Benchmark have provided lower velocities in all the cartridges that I have used them in compared to Ball powders. But These stick powders do provide low SD's and better accuracy.
It seems if you get the same weight bullet going the same speed...you get very similar results... I had this with 39gn speer and and 40gn VMAX in 204. I'm guessing cos it's the same exit time out of barrel during its vibration swings.
They will make great varmint projectiles at short to medium range but those bullets will suck past 600 yards and into the transonic zone . They will be very fast out to 500-600 yards then they will loose their velocity quick due to poor ballistic coefficient.
For Varmint hunting purposes (less than 500 yds.) they may work quite well indeed. Very flat shooting and fast for my usages. Thanks for your comment here.
Dave. Good video. Really great groups. You've got a great combination going there with that gun, powders and bullets. Thanks for sharing and take care.
If I'm using Accubond bullets for hunting, I use same-weight Ballistic Tips for load work-up. It's much cheaper that way. @7:11 uh-oh. You've got company! Thanks Dave!
Thanks Dave. All these years of watching ammo tests, yours is the first that has put up a head to head comparison of Boat Tails vs Flat Base in the same weight, same caliber and same rifle. All the other channels just talk about theoretical comparisons, but yours is the first physical comparison I've seen. Thank you 👍 That said, you also just proved the accuracy differences at typical hunting distances are negligible. So, puts to rest the 6.5CM/PRC vs Win270 debate. If you're going hunting, get a 270. Also, I love these 125gn 308 rounds. These light for caliber ballistic tips make excellent varmint loads. I literally found your channel researching the Federal 308 110gn VMax loads screaming at 3200+ ft/sec. Loved every one of your videos since. Appreciate all the hard work and detail, Dave. Have a fantastic week 🤠🇺🇸🍻
Thanks for the kind words. But I have to admit, I do like the newer technologies of both rifles and bullets. The 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge is a very accurate, versatile, has more types/weights of modern bullets and uses16 - 20 grains less powder, it has retired my .270 Win. Thanks for watching and your support here.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Excellent point about the powder. I don't hand load. So, I see considering the off the shelf costs. But I have a 6.5CM too. Box prices are higher than the old classics, in my shopping opinion.
The 125 Sierra's were originally invented specifically for the 300 BO. Sierra told me they changed the name so they could be used in any 308 cal. rifle
Probably depends if it’s a 300 lb Montana Whitetail or a 150 lb Tennessee Whitetail. I’ve never recovered a .308 Core lokt of Speer Hot Core from a Southern Whitetail.
The Sierra lead pill seperated from the jacket was from a 180# mule deer buck. I think cup and core bullets are suitable with lower velocities cartridges. But that's just my experience.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I‘ve about came to the same conclusion. I’ve had Sierra and Hornady not exit . Speer Hot Core, Accubond or partetion for me in .243 and .308. I like to be able to take quartering shots or shoulder shots with a pass through with 2 holes to collapse lungs . In the heavy brush I hunt can’t have deer running 100 yards with no blood trail. I have weighed meat loss from shoulder shots on our Alabama deer and it’s less than 1-1/2 lb of meat. My 30-30 and .44 Magnum rifle do ok with lung shots. .243 is definitely a shoulder shot caliber for me, and that takes a stout bullet with good velocity.
Hey Mr Dave great show thank you. Shot a friend Wilson Combat AR was happy about it. Was in the fence your video has convinced me I should get one. Waiting to see next video
I just ordered a 100 Nosler Accubond bullets for mine!! Yes I like the Sierra 125's as well as the Game Changers BUT man ya need ta compress that powder to get hood numbers!!!!!
Yes, The 125gn. Sierra Tipped Game Kings shot very well indeed. I followed Bill Wilsons advise and ground down the polymer tip, to get a COL. of 2.250, thus allowing the same amount of powder of the regular Game Kings.
@@onebadjack1313 the 150 sst should be good in the HAM'r once ya find a loading. I have used many times down loaded to 2500 in 308 for two buddies boys growing up. Many times deer never took a step.
I've driven 75gr V-Max bullets up to 3,602 ft/s (mach 3.2) out of my Remington 783 varminter, with a 26 inch barrel. The bullet produced 2,160 ft-lbs of energy, which makes a great coyote round👍
The 75 V-Max's are also great in my 6mm ARC @ 3,160fps using 13 grains less powder. My 243's are reserved more for 80-103gn. bullets. Thanks for watching.
@@Shaggy_Rogers0001 No, because my 223 caliber rifles are more suited for these light weights without the increase in powder charges.. Example 22-250 @3,700 fps.
I have a 1917 Remington I am kicking around the idea of turning it into a 375 H&H by have the barrel bored, rifled, and a new chamber cut. What other modifications did you need to make the action handle the h&h sized cartridge?
Personal preference. It gives me a more natural eye alignment without having to crane my neck down to the stock. Also allows a more natural adjustable cheek weld and allow the stock to be lower into my shoulder pocket.
How does one get lower velocities with a longer barrel? hahaha never heard of that in 55 years(out of 78). obviously the barrels are switched! thanks for the video!
@@JPtogether-fg5nm No I have not. The chamber tolerances on this rile are a little more generous. Several people have expressed lower velocity on their older 700's and suggested it's just a "Slow barrel" . I don't necessarily agree with that but the accuracy is excellent so I am satisfied with increasing the powder charge or finding a more suitable powder. (Which I have done.)
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 It was funny and awesome ... good for her to go with you and run the camera ,,I'm taking my wife next week on coyote hunts to do the same....great women !!
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I've never owned one. But everyone that I know who has, has had to send it back in for warranty work due to consistent accuracy. Of the returned ones after warranty barrel replacement, they take about 80-100 rounds to start to break in. I just avoid them at all costs.
Yes, the upper had to be sent back to BCA to widen the gas port. They fixed it and sent it back quickly and it works fine now. Check out my BCA playlist. studio.ru-vid.comPLXqfgzMyk7eGM4SwWLN7KbDuMI77aevHb/edit
Check out Frontline Rejects video on testing the 172 grain version in the 30-06. They had some really good results! The bullets that they shot into water jugs at 100 to 500 yards looked great. I have some of the 190 grain to try in my 30-06 but haven’t had time yet.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 After looking at the ballistics (way too much lol) I think the 06 is at its best with 180-200 grain bullets. Those 190 grain Speer Impacts can be pushed at 2750 and when you run the ballistics on that it is a fantastic load for the old 06. Retains velocity and energy really well.
picked up a barrel for this a few weeks after he introduced it. ive done a lot of load work, and can say 2 things. #1 Bill should have used a rifle length gas tube not that goofy intermediate one, and #2 it will exceed easily anything Wilson lists for data without getting into any pressure issues. side note, CFE BLK does very well compressed!
Maybe so. But I am not used to loading compressed loads yet. None of my other caliber/cartridges (16) have needed to get to compressed to have maximum velocity with certain powders. Even Bill Wilson suggest 1/2 of a grain less than max in his testing. Thanks for contributing your experience here.
That’s true about the CFE BLK. With some of my loads I have to trickle the powder into the case slowly or it will bulge when seating the bullet, but I don’t get any pressure signs.
