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6 Secrets Behind the Sudden Rise of Xtract

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3M Xtract is really popular right now. Almost every woodworking RU-vidr is talking about it, and it's hot on the forums as well. In this video I share 6 little-known secrets about Xtract that very few people know. I even show you some rare early 36 grit samples of the abrasive - Cubitron II - used in Xtract.
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@wittworks Год назад

🚨 Infla*ion is real, so I asked Taylor Toolworks to offer an Infla*tion Relief Pricing Sale for us makers. They agreed and as of 10/21/22, they have put 3M Xtract back on sale. Here are direct (affiliate) links: 3M 710w Xtract: lddy.no/1czeg 3M 710w Xtract Sample Pack: lddy.no/150ju 3M 775L Hook & Loop: lddy.no/1daya 3M 775L Sticky Back: lddy.no/1dayc Please note that if you buy some, I'll get a small commission at no extra cost to you. But I personally buy and use both the 5" and 6" versions of Xtract 710w, 775L, and I recently bought some 310w from Amazon. I've been happy and enjoy sanding again.

@kenerickson4923 Год назад

Taylor is one of my favorites sources of tools and supplies

@petem6503 Год назад

I think it's cheaper on Amazon once you include shipping.

@robbie6625 Год назад

Out of curiosity, why'd you censor that word?

@wittworks Год назад

Just to be funny. Because everyone I know is talking about inflation like it’s a bad word

@tradesmith_yt Год назад

@@wittworks this is crazy I thought I only knew the secret. It’s head and shoulders above anything I’ve tried. I made a hook and loop glove like black tail I’ll never go back.

@mainerdiy8399 Год назад

Who wants to listen to the history of a sand paper company? Well it turns out when it is presented on point, entertaining, and enticing, count me in! Nice job.

@wittworks Год назад

Funny! Thank you! I found it fascinating and wondered why people don’t talk more about it. Glad you liked it.

@ShopNation Год назад

I feel like I know way too much about sandpaper and the abrasive R&D group at 3M 😂

@wittworks Год назад

This is true. Cubitron II NFTs coming your way.

@post-leftluddite Год назад

3m is so over priced, Norton Abrasives is where it's at. When it comes to ceramic alumina abrasives, their Blaze line is second to none

@mrjnox Год назад

ur done 😩😩😩

@vulgarwoodworks Год назад

Nicely done overview of the history. I've tried the Xtract, but I still prefer Cubitron 2 for one simple reason that often gets overlooked. Mesh papers "superior" dust extraction comes at a cost of the backing pads on sanders. The hooks tend to loose their gripping power because of the sheer amount of dust traveling through the mesh. I went through 2 backing pads using Xtract last year. Since switching back to Cubitron 2, my backing pad still holds. Just something to consider

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! Yes. You said it better than I did at the end. The film backed 775l are tough.

@chrissetter Год назад

The same happened to me until I bought the Mirka abranet gripped face pad. It even saves my sander from using the synthetic wool pads.

@vulgarwoodworks Год назад

@@chrissetter my Festool sanders have issues with mesh discs. At $40+ for a Festool backing pad, it's gets pricey to run those types of discs.

@wallacegrommet9343 Год назад

Mesh sanding discs open weave permits the loops on the backing pad to pass through and get abraded away

@marksellman6619 Год назад

Try an interface pad.

@bjrharkless Год назад

Great video. I really like the history and the explanation of the “siblings” of the abrasives. Looking forward to the jig video.

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! Working on it now!

@731Woodworks Год назад

Awesome info and expertly presented as always! Great job!

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you Outlaw!

@aj.8665 Год назад

Great presentation and actually pretty interesting history. Just bought the 3M Xtract 5" Sander and an assortment of Cubitron II sandpaper, can't wait to see the difference from my old box store sander. Great job!

@wittworks Год назад

Thanks! Very cool! Make sure you use a "padsaver" to protect your backing pad: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0HNOHRxzby0.html

@nwa2102 Год назад

Another great video. Recently helped someone clean out an attic and it had her great grandfather's woodworking tools. Including some 3m sandpaper from the early 1900's. It was mostly very flaky and brittle. But you could still read some of the writing on the box

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! That’s a cool story!

@jsmxwll Год назад

Thanks for the exposition dump lol. I knew cubitron was originally for metalworking, but I didn't know that Mike Taylor was the one to popularize it for woodworking. I've been using the Xtract product for about 6 months as a hobbyist woodworker and I've been pretty impressed. Working in an apartment makes me really appreciate how much dust my anemic shopvac can still manage to suck up with these things. Good video.

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! Yes, he has to buy in industrial quantities and then pays people to break them up into smaller packs because 3M still won't package them in quantities the WE need.

@AngieWilliamsDesigns Год назад

Thank you for sharing this. I just ordered this to check it out. I have a 5” Festool Sander and just use the Festool sandpaper. On my older 6” Porter Cable sander I used Mirka. So I thought this would be something good to try.

@RPmusic06 Год назад

Great video bud! Its really amazing to see a video of yours because of the research you do, I love it! Gotta grab some 3m sandpaper real quick 😁 have a great weekend bud!

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! Appreciate it.

@abad_gtr1123 Год назад

great video and very informative. i just ordered some from Taylor's a few weeks ago and used it for the first time this past weekend. i won't use anything else now...amazing stuff

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! Glad you got some! I won't use anything else.

@dfs7979 Год назад

OK so I tried Xtract a while back and it left the pad on my Festool ETS-EC 150 a complete mess every time I changed the paper. For anyone that uses Xtract on the regular - is this a problem? What about the hook and loop cubitron II... does the dust collection work well enough given the hole pattern is different than granat paper?

@wittworks Год назад

That’s a common issue. I ended up having to get a pad that goes in between. Very few talk about it. It helps protect the pad on the sander and helps with adhesion of paper. I’ve thought about doing a quick PSA video on it since I had a problem.

@davidmeyer9204 Год назад

@@wittworks yes please, oh and I prefer "Dave"

@johnshipps441 Год назад

Genius video! Thanks for the brief history and science lesson. I had bought both papers on the advice of JKM, but didn’t really understand the difference. Now, I do. The more solid disk has a higher concentration of the triangles so I’ll use it in lower grits for the rougher removal. And use it on my handheld block where dust extraction is not a factor. But, I’ll use the Xtract discs in higher grits and to take advantage of better dust removal. Unless I totally didn’t understand…😅

@wittworks Год назад

You got it! I’m making hand blocks from walnut scraps right now for the full disc 775l. Hopefully the video will be out next week showing tips and tricks for that specific paper.

@dtork47 Год назад

Great info, being mainly a woodturner anymore, I appreciate. Fun to get a history lesson also!

@ReconstructingEmily Год назад

Such good information presented in an engaging way! Awesome video! 👌

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you

@Dennis-ud2nh 6 месяцев назад

Would you recommend Xtract for hand sanding? 3M also has a Cubitron II line geared towards hand sanding (called Pro Grade Precision). I wonder if the Xtract would clog less and be more flexible thanks to the mesh.

@1975oldschool Год назад

Can't wait to try some of this when I get my Festool sander! Great info, thanks for the research!

@wittworks Год назад

You’re welcome. It works on other sanders too. Thinking about getting a cheap Hf sander to test it on

@user_16309 Год назад

@@wittworks Seems to work fine on my Bosch and Portal Cable sanders. I don’t agree with dust free. Sanding makes dust.

@davidmeyer9204 Год назад

Which one are you looking to get?

@wittworks Год назад

Do you have a good extractor hooked up to it? I don’t see any dust when I use it with my Festool sander and extractor.

@williamsender6416 Год назад

I use it with my Dewalt sander and it's fantastic.

@RyanChristianson Год назад

This video was so fascinating and well made, you're awesome!

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you

@FountainCityVol Год назад

Do you need an interface pad with the 3m net abrasives to protect the sanding pad of your sander? Seems like I remember needing one for the Mirka abrasives back in the day. Thanks for the video, great info.

@wittworks Год назад

Yes I use a pad like that. I think they’re around $9 or so.

@wallacegrommet9343 Год назад

Absolutely. They don’t call them padsavers just for the heck of it.

@wittworks Год назад

🫡

@banjerlegs3051 Год назад

I like it but went back to cubitron 2, the extract physically falls apart, especially on the edges, quicker than the C2

@wittworks Год назад

Yes that’s the down side. The con to the net backing. I found the filmed back to be tough.

@TWC6724 Год назад

I found the same thing happened to me. I wasn’t too impressed so I thought maybe I was doing something wrong.

@diamondbracelette Год назад

Same

@EOTE_TX 4 месяца назад

I have 3 things against the Cubitorn II sanding discs...#1) the cost of the discs has more than doubled in 2 years...#2) the discs edges bend and tear very quickly rendering the disc useless in short order. This happens most of the time when edge sanding. I don't have this problem with traditional hook and loop discs...#3) while the Cubitron discs work well, compared to silicone carbide they are no match...I can get 2 to 5 times more sanding done in the same time with a silicone carbide disc. For quick material removal a coarser grit of 40 or 60 is often necessary and Cubitron only comes in 80 grit or higher. I can get silicone carbide discs in grits from 36 to 8000 and the cost of the discs are about 19 cents versus cubitron at 85 cents each. Hmmm, longer life, significantly less cost, less disc degradation have all been factors on choosing not to use cubitron discs anymore.

@neisendesign Год назад

super thorough. Thanks for the hard work!

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you

@sabersaw5611 Год назад

Johnathan katz moses was the reason Taylor tools was selling out. Don't think it was as popular among woodworking prior to him.

@wittworks Год назад

JKM heard about it from Taylor and got his sample test from taytools. Woodworkers hadn’t heard about it until Kat told the world.

@sabersaw5611 Год назад

@@wittworks yup. That's another way of saying it.

@whomadethatsaltysoup Год назад

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing your research into the sexy subject of sanding! I have shedloads of basic sanding discs that I use with my excellent Bosch sander. They are cheap, but certainly don't last very long. I did look at the mesh discs, but with hundreds of traditional discs, decided to wait. Having watched your video, I think I will give the 3M product a spin. Thanks for sharing!

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you! That Bosch sander seems to be great. Think I should compare it with my Festool? You might try the sample pack of Xtract. I think it’s under $10 and you get 12 discs and various grits. That’s what I did. Beware. It’s a gateway….

@whomadethatsaltysoup Год назад

@@wittworks Yes, the Bosch GEX 125-150 is an excellent sander, with anti vibration handle and superb dust collection. Costing nearly as much as the tracksaw, it had a lot to live up to, but I had a particularly tedious and time consuming sanding task - days, not hours - and I just couldn't face the old cheapo, instrument of torture any longer. Thank you for your kind offer, but I'm over the pond here in Scotland, so I think the postage would kill me - especially now that the Pound is on its way to parity with the Peso!

@wittworks Год назад

I’ll check it out. I think the dollar and pound and peso maybe all in the same category soon. 😮

@johnjss Год назад

Awesome video Drew, I will need to pick up some of this “sandpaper”

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you bro. Stop watching YT and get back to that commission! 😉

@johnjss Год назад

@@wittworks needed to know what sandpaper I needed to finish. *procrastination*

@wittworks Год назад

@@johnjss TOUCHE! YOU GOT ME.

@APatchworkCanvas 13 дней назад

When I talk to people about sand paper they just stare at me like I’m insane.

@aterack833 Год назад

That pattern is the same as some swiffer pads I’ve seen on commercials or in stores.

@caodesignworks2407 Год назад

I've generally preferred the Diablo Mesh sand papers

@kevinhilton8683 Год назад

Maybe you could talk about pad savers and backing pads for us less professional types..thanks. Nice history on this video

@wittworks Год назад

the problem with the "best" sandpaper (& how to fix it cheap) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0HNOHRxzby0.html

@Bob_Adkins Год назад

Great video! I love this stuff, but there is a weirdness to the Cubitron II Extract that I don't get. I feel like I need to use higher grits for final finishing. 80 is about as low as I need to go instead of 60, and I need 320 instead of 220 for finishing. Is this because f the sharpness? It leaves dust stuck hard to the wood surface. Brushing off the dust and hitting it with a tack rag no longer works! I have to brush, brush, brush, wipe with a dust rage, blow it off, then the tack rag. Why does it stickj? (no vacuum attached to my sander, but my sander's bag collects lots of dust).

@wittworks Год назад

Interesting. My guess would be that the grit that is “self sharpening” is being left on buried into the grains because you don’t have an extractor.

@Bob_Adkins Год назад

@@wittworks I just tried it with a powerful Shop Vac, same problem, dust sticks to surface and is hard to brush off. It's not terrible, just extra work. There seems to be no grit, just dust sticking to the wood in a way I have never seen.

@Ashton351 Год назад

Phenomenal research - thank you!

@wittworks Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@suzabakingbaked7975 Год назад

8:00 I have been in that argument loop when trying to say carwash vacuums suck when they don't suck. They Blow. Lol

@wittworks Год назад

@LickorishAllsorts Год назад

It would be nice if 3M colour coded the grits.

@wittworks Год назад

great idea. I found the labels on the back to be much better than the ones I've used from diablo.

@DEtchells Год назад

Super-interesting video, I love hearing about innovation history. I just recently became aware of Xtract from one of the test videos on it; I need to split my order so both of you will share my few sets of affiliate revenue :-) I hadn’t realized it started out as a metal abrasive; that’s good to know because I also do metalworking. Thanks as always for the great info and interesting presentation!

@wittworks Год назад

Thanks Dave! Feel free to give 100% of the order to the other creator 😬 I was surprised about the metal history too. I didn’t mention it, but the name of 3M is Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company. I always think of sticky notes. But mining and abrasives is their foundation. Check out their metal stuff! My dad works as a buyer in the aerospace and tool manufacturing and the stuff they use is insane. Sometimes I’ll get paper and discs that are supposed to be thrown away. They blow everything I have from the store out of the water.

@mattmanyam Год назад

@@wittworks I'm pretty sure there are a lot of innovations that we use every day, that are derived from 3M development... reflective technology, pressure sensitive adhesives (Scotch tape!), and more.

@hairyfro Год назад

Well, I guess I'm that guy who paused the video to look for Easter eggs. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised with myself.

@wittworks Год назад

Yay! Finally.

@thundere752 Год назад

RU-vid really recommend me a video about a fking sandpaper, wnd you know what, i enjoyed it.

@wittworks Год назад

the Al Gore Rythym is a strange thing, huh? Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for commenting.

@davidmeyer9204 Год назад

Thank you! It was nice to learn about the different types. My wife makes resin tumblers that I sand before she does her magic. I was using the "D" word (think satan) net disc but was having trouble sanding the concaved/lipped bottom. It was fraying the net. Now I know that 3M makes a stiff backed velcro disc. You just saved me time and money on that. I am looking to get a new (snob tool) sander and was concerned about dust collection as I have a lot of 5 hole 5 inch discs. So hello 3M Xtract and so long 5 hole and "D" net sanding. Thanks Drew! I love your work and content.

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you David! Can I call you David? I haven’t tried the Diablo nets but almost bought them. The 775l is REALLY thick backed. Very impressed.

@davidmeyer9204 Год назад

@@wittworks I would not waste the money on the nets, unless they are on a really good sale. If you have enough of the 3M's there is no need to take a step backwards. IMHO

@wittworks Год назад

@@davidmeyer9204 agreed.

@wittworks Год назад

I just got the ec 150/3 yesterday. Haven’t fired it up yet.

@cardboardorigami Год назад

Why cant you type out Diablo?

@hansangb Год назад

Really well done. Who knew I would learn so much about my favorite sandpaper. What a game changer. I now have a stack of Diablo sand paper that I'll never use. LOL. And thank you TayTools! And your hook at the end worked :) Subbed.

@wittworks Год назад

Oh thanks! Maybe we can both our Diablo discs to some of the trolls who comment?

@hansangb Год назад

@@wittworks lol. So long as they pay the $1,000 shipping and handling!

@wittworks Год назад

Yes. $5 for shipping. $9995 for handling their attitude.

@JaySellers Год назад

Same. I have 10 of the 50 disc SandNet packs that will start collecting dust after moving over to 3M.

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you Jay. I’ll start collecting troll addresses.

@CraigHollabaugh Год назад

Found some money in my couch and bought a box of these. Thanks WW!

@wittworks Год назад

Ha! Make sure you use a padsaver

@CraigHollabaugh Год назад

@@wittworks ahh, better dig for more change. 😉

@wittworks Год назад

They’re $5 so you should be good!

@gregtripp-vc9or Год назад

One of the problems I experience with the Xtract discs is that sanding dust collects in the center of the disk since the 8 hole backer plate on my sander can't get suction to the center area of the disk. Do you have any advice for that problem? Thanks.

@wittworks Год назад

I haven’t had that experience with my Festool sanders. I’ll keep an eye out for it.

@MiteshParmar Год назад

Love your vids. Subscribed!

@wittworks Год назад

Thanks! 😍

@fdort3971 3 месяца назад

@WittWorks thanks for sharing! I will share this in a woodworking group I belong to...nice Matrix reference...lol

@Stickmanght Год назад

The one problem I have had with the net sand papers is that the fine dust that gets through abrades the hooks of the hook and loop on my sanders pad. Causing me to replace those pads very quickly. I haven't seen anyone talk about this problem yet.

@wittworks Год назад

Do you have a pad saver?

@Stickmanght Год назад

@@wittworks An additional peice of equipment to use the expensive discs? If I were just doing fine woodworking I wouldn't be complaining. Since I use my Sanders for all kinds of sanding, and materials, I'm less inclined to want another wear item. I also got to thinking about the supposes benefit of these nets vs holes. The sanding pad only has holes. The discs with holes line up. The net just allows dust to go anywhere, and yet still has to get sucked up through the holes, or around the edge of the pad. I'm not seeing a big increase in dust collection in the net style.

@wittworks Год назад

The pad savers are around $6 and save your $40 backing pad (because the hook and loop are more exposed). Trade offs with everything.

@Stickmanght Год назад

@@wittworks my pads are about $21 ea. And last about 1 to 2 years of hard use. Sanding everything from old paint to drywall patches. (Drywall dust kills pads as fast as old paint in my experience). I'll check out the pad savers. But my point about the dust being sucked up through the 8 holes and the sides still seems to make the net sanding papers usefulness reduced.

@bretticus4 Год назад

fascinating topic that looks like you spent a lot of time researching. if i could suggest anything here, it would be to adopt adam ragusea's approach and cite your sources (sites, patents, papers, press releases, etc) where appropriate. (i.e. where did you learn about this micro replication process?) this would help you avoid sounding like you're reading a PR script and give the woodworking nerds the goods on where to deep-dive into the weeds. cheers!

@wittworks Год назад

Thanks. Good idea. I can post the links. I did on some. Most of it came from 4 different phone conversations and interviews. I had the patent numbers in the original script, but I got some advice from people to leave them out because there were a lot of parents and it was hard to mail down which one was which.

@treasurerbcsocaaa1639 Год назад

So I assume it will work with my festool sanders okay?

@wittworks Год назад

yes, but watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0HNOHRxzby0.html

@MMWoodworking Год назад

Super interesting video. It's nice to see something new added to the discussion on this paper. I love this paper, and have been using it for a few months, but I think the claims are a bit overblown. The "nearly dust free" really only applies with a vacuum added, and how many average woodworkers run a vacuum to their sander? It sure leaves less, but for most people, whose sander just uses the internal motor speed to create airflow into a bag, you still need to blow/wipe down the wood between grits. It also doesn't last some extraordinary amount of time imo. I also think their grits are a little rougher than other brands, like diablo. The feel from a 220 pad of Xtract-mesh vs 220 Diablo non-mesh is rougher to the touch. I've found myself regularly going to 320 with the 3M mesh to get the feel of the 220 from Diablo. Interestingly, 3Ms paper leaves an equally smooth feel to the Diablo discs when I hand sand, for whatever reason. What it does, undoubtedly do, is remove material faster than anything else. Setting aside some of the, imo, overblown claims, it is still the best paper on the market, purely due to the price tag/disc being so competitive. I will never buy a different brand, as it is the best I've used, but I don't think it is the miracle that some influencers sell it as. Just my experience.

@wittworks Год назад

Thanks Miles! I should have specifically said “with an extractor” but I assumed that was obvious - given the name. But I think you’re right in many wouldn’t think to do that. But I think anyone using a net disc intentionally is doing it for those reasons. Adding something different to the conversation was my number one goal! So thank you for noticing that. I think a lot of hype/excitement is due to for so long it *seems* that most of the sandpaper is the same. My opinion is that what 3m did was a game changer. I’d suspect it will be in Hd and Lowes sometime soon as it becomes more popular. It’s not perfect, but I actually enjoy sanding now.

@itachi975x Год назад

I don’t know if only happens to me but i haven’t seen anyone talking that it leave the purple abrasive thing on the surface like it comes off the net

@wittworks Год назад

I haven’t had that happen to me. I’ll keep an eye on it. Thank you for letting me know. I’ll ask the 3M source if they’re aware of it.

@wittworks Год назад

@@itachi975x I saw that video. I think he missed the point of the abrasive being self sharpening.

@itachi975x Год назад

but that could cause more swirl marks

@johnhall2806 Год назад

I have the Xtract sandpaper for my Festool 5" sander. However, the xtract doesn't want to stick to the pad. I don't have any problems with other sandpapers the 775 seems to stick better. Is there something I am missing with the xtract?

@wittworks Год назад

I had the same experience. Actually doing a short video on that this coming week. Not sure why it's the case, but the $5 "padsaver" was the fix for me. Got me better adhesion and also protects the hook and loop on the expensive backer pad.

@johnhall2806 Год назад

@@wittworks Thanks for the information. Is there a specific padsaver you recommend? Where do you get yours?

@wittworks Год назад

I have both 3m (taytools) and Festool (Amazon). I like the Festool one best. amzn.to/3WyWWwa

@johnhall2806 Год назад

@@wittworks Thanks! I am definitely going to give it a try.

@thienthetyga3462 Год назад

I now have a source who has a source who has a source

@wittworks Год назад

🤪 sounds like ESPN journalism

@donaldcaesar6009 Год назад

How do they compare to Diablo Sand Net ?

@kenerickson4923 Год назад

Comparison to Diablo's mesh sanding disk?

@wittworks Год назад

I almost bought some to compare…

@tobuslieven Год назад

Cubitron is triangles? WTF

@Karaon Год назад

Hey 3M, if u watchin add around 6mm thick circle offset of the edges. Prevent tearing down on those angled sandings. You can ship the gold to my address

@wittworks Год назад

that is the downside...edges break down fast.

@younghan3573 Год назад

Didn't know 3m was a sandpaper company. I thought they were an adhesive company.

@wittworks Год назад

Technically they were a mining company. The adhesive was a “mistake”. A trillion dollar mistake.

@Karaon Год назад

adhesvie abrasive potato potato

@petem6503 Год назад

Gee I'd love to waste more of my time, but I got wood to glue up. Cubitron paper is now also available in strips (50' x 2.5", plus), so it can be used on drum sanders. Works like a charm.

@wittworks Год назад

I’m shopping for a drum sander and would love to try it! Which drum do you have? I’ve been looking at the supermax…but man they’ve increased prices by hundreds

@petem6503 Год назад

@@wittworks I have a Sand Flee, which is an open bed (lower drum only) sander. I really like it. I've had it for about 12 years.

@lynbigle2341 6 месяцев назад

Try using a 3m sander instead of the festool status tool that never thought of ergonomics. Ever

@user-vq4mt4zd4e Год назад

great content thanks

@geraldstutts8491 Год назад

My experience shows that the abrasive falls off my 3" disk while sanding bowls on the lathe. Up to the failure it is excellent performing, I'll have to stick to Mirka.

@wittworks Год назад

Thank you for sharing!

@jetjazz05 Год назад

92 huge mistake, should've been the triangulon.

@haidafella8651 Год назад

Prior to 1902 there was shark skin and horsetail

@wittworks Год назад

Yes. I was speaking commercially like we know it

@alexkitner5356 Год назад

I just don't get it. Everyone said the extract was this awesome long lasting, efficient and dust controlling magic. From my experience I'm getting 2 out of 3 on a good day. They cut like crazy when fresh, they're great about dust when used with a vacuum but I chew through them faster than a snickers bar. Maybe its the rough reclaimed wood I work with but if I get much more than 10ft² out of a pad.

@Karaon Год назад

yeah, it's the wood. U jsut get them dirty and clogged

@Bigdog1787 Год назад

It's why I like but also dislike patents they slow future progress down.

@wittworks Год назад

Good point.

@johnjss Год назад

Lack of patents though also discourage investment in innovation.

@SheWhoWoodworks Год назад

I read that as 'parents' and was like, yea pretty much. Lol

@wittworks Год назад

😬

@jayc5373 Год назад

You got it completely backwards. No one is going to invest time and money into innovation if anyone can then use it. Patents also push competitors to come up with something better since they cannot use the patented innovation.

@dusbus2384 Год назад

@04:58 he basically admits he was compensated in sandpaper. Good move

@wittworks Год назад

“Compensated in sandpaper”. Right. Yes. I made a video that cost me time and money to make, and gave lots of value to a brand, and helped people with information, in exchange for $10 in sandpaper. Unrelated: do you work for free?

@camplays487 Год назад

Oooh so close, could’ve been cubitron squared

@wittworks Год назад

😎

@tensazero Год назад

Why no 60-grit?

@MetalheadAndNerd Год назад

Sawdust free sandpaper? I assume it uses antimatter to desintegrate the wood particles...

@vladnickul Год назад

Its super popular only in "influencer" circles, wonder why? :))

@risunokairu Год назад

Don't worry, I noticed you spelled it "affillaite" instead of "affiliate."

@wittworks Год назад

Fat thumbs.

@MOZOGuitars Год назад

Trianglatron

@wittworks Год назад

Right?!

@Steinstra-vj7wl Год назад

...BUT THEN THE DEMO VIDEO NEVER CAME.

@jimdfwwoodworks37 Год назад

Actually like Festools better. 3M works well but seems to clog and wear out faster.

@EMWoodworking Год назад

Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing… 3M

@wittworks Год назад

Yep.

@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio 6 месяцев назад

When using the Cubitron II on something like a Dewalt orbital sander, do you need to use one of those protective pads or will just work fine with usual H&L?

@Dennis-ud2nh 6 месяцев назад

The regular with cloth back should work without one, but the mesh backed Xtract may or may not need a pad.

@Gazman299 3 месяца назад

Just don't add pressure and you'll be good. Let the sander do the work.

@christopherberry8519 Год назад

Whenever you're extracting air or dust with air, look at where your replacement air is coming from. On great orbital sanders, cold air is supplied to the centre as well as sucked in from the edges. A massive vacuum without flow does not shift dust. Moving air carries dust. as far as I know, Mirka, Festool and Metabo sell eccentric sanders with a cold air supply in the middle of the pad. I've not seen others.

@wallacegrommet9343 Год назад

60 and 40 grit not available

@wittworks Год назад

Lowest I have is 80

@bhough410 Год назад

When you're tired of chewing through those purple pads in a few minutes you should try the Diablo Sandnet! Your wallet will be happy & you can thank me later.

@wittworks Год назад

I have some. Nah. I’m good with purple.

@markridout1372 Год назад

These 3m disks arnt long lasting compared to the paper ones they rub off very easy and then your left just sanding down with your Velcro 😢

@charlie_erin_muller Год назад

Geez … will the algorithms never do this to me again….. please , I’m asking this time

@wittworks Год назад

Ihate to break it to you...but you commenting tells the Al Gore Rhythm that you like it....

@TheAsianVillain Год назад

EFF PATENTS is solely the biggest takeaway..

@edlomonaco Год назад

They stole the idea from MIRKA. They make net sanding discs for autobody. I've been using them for at least 15 years now.

@mrkattm Год назад

Really, influencer? That is funny.

@jjohnson1835 Год назад

Why did I listen to this infomercial?

@wittworks Год назад

Because you’re awesome.

@jjohnson1835 Год назад

@@wittworks 😂

@wittworks Год назад

🙃

@post-leftluddite Год назад

3m abrasives are so overpriced, maybe it's because I do metal working and stainless steel finishing, but their abrasives are way too expensive for the performance. For my money, Norton is the best, festool's granat line is good too. I use a burnisher and the flap drums (4" length x 4" diameter with a quad keyway or 5/8-11 threading) and 3M wants close to $100 each, whether traditional abrasive paper or non-woven nylon abrasive, it's insane

@chrispysaid Год назад

"sawldust"

@TheKnightArgent Год назад

Holy advertising, Batman! I don't mind learning about a new tool or tech, but I didn't need the whole PR thing straight from 3M about the history of the company, etc.

@wittworks Год назад

Not exactly. I don’t know anyone at 3M and I doubt anyone on the payroll there has any clue who I am. I got all that from research and interviewing a friend unaffiliated with the company. Advertising implies dollars came my way specifically to amplify their intended message. I am actually worried 3M might ask me to take it down. 3M has a policy against social media marketing and 'influencers'. I found their story fascinating, and as a story teller, I wanted to tell it because I found it interesting, and wish they would tell these things in ways people like me can understand. I'm sorry it came across as an ad. But maybe I should google a marketing email with a 3M domain name and send them an invoice. 🥴

@dangkolache Год назад

I thought it was interesting...

@lazerusmfh Год назад

Rumor has it they deprive the male triangles of stimulation and right at the last second before adhesion they bring in a female triangle Works every time 😉

@OddWoz Год назад

Lost me at “red pill”. 🙄

@the_second_amendment388 Год назад

Great video, a lot of great information, but PLEASE drop the "Peace" with your hands like two guns crossed at the end of the video, you're not from the ghetto, and you're not black, all it does is make you look ignorant and ruin a Great video.

@wittworks Год назад

How do you know I’m not from the ghetto?

@the_second_amendment388 Год назад

@@wittworks if you are the goal is to rise out of it not emulate it

@wittworks Год назад

✌️

@kz.irudimen Год назад

I hope they start selling the sanding belts in europe, can't find them for now. When I see how well the discs work I can't help but imagine how awesome it would be on an oscillating belt sander.

@wittworks Год назад

I’m sure they will soon. They’re starting to expand their market on it.

@kz.irudimen Год назад

@@wittworks I hope so. I go look for them from time to time since I discovered the 775L discs, no luck so far. When you use a piece of rubber to clean it the cubitron II lasts so long it's crazy. A belt like that would kick so much ass.

@wittworks Год назад

Is it not on your version of Amazon?

@kz.irudimen Год назад

@@wittworks So far I can't find it anywhere in Europe (amazon or anywhere else), only american or canadian websites. I could order but between shipping and taxes on imports it would be insanely expensive. Just have to wait and hope they eventually start distributing them in Europe :(

@wittworks Год назад

It’s really surprising. I *think* Europe has stricter dust control standards and laws, so it would only make sense that an offering like Xtract would be offered in Europe. Maybe it’s too early.