You can have the exhaust valve open on a cold start. It’s simple. Give power to the car (don’t start the engine). Put everything into sport or sport plus, then depress the gas pedal once. You’ll hear the valve open, now start the engine.
Ardalan Shabestari but it would be nice if it was in the middle. No reason for it to sit at 25% all the time. And of course I HAD to pick something...this car is close to perfect :)
Tom Lawrowski haha yes it’s perfect. In my e90 i don’t even a gauge. For somereason bmw thought their clients don’t need to know the temperature of the coolant. That’s like the most important thing of the car
Hey Tom, the reason why it is that low is the fact that the oil temps are not regulated by a thermostat and they vary much more then the cooling liquids temps. Especially when you drive it down here in Germany on the autobahn at 160 mph and more, the oil easily heats up to 250°, so in order to not scare people about the actual oil temps at higher loads, the guage is designed like this... :)
Nah the only difference between sport and sport plus for drive train is that there is no rev matching on sport plus this guy has no idea what he's talking about lol
I'll answer the pads question. From seeing NASA GTS BMW cars, you can see podium guys run stock brake sizes. And BMW does use smaller pads on large size rotors than other big brake kits. But from history, they are sufficient as long as you don't over brake.
For me, it really makes sense that the rev matching function is disabled in sport+ mode. Sport+ should make the car as ”real” as possible. No traction control or other systems making driving easier (like the rev matching).
1) Get in Car, ignition on, sport plus, foot on brake, start 2) Tried to set this in your M1 or M2 buttons? If no, can be coded 3) Only because its a US spec car, EU car has normal Celcius gauge 4) iDrive controller is placed in most natural position possible so that your wrist rests on the arm rest when using it rather than in the air, like with a mouse on your PC 5) Under that carpeting is the boot floor and exhaust under that, whats the point of having an uneven load space? 6) Ceramic Calipers are also far bigger than their pads
Hey I own a 2018 BMW F80 competition package and If you press the start button without starting the car you can put the engine into sports plus or press M2 if it configured to sorts plus and it will open the values then start the car for the nice loud sound.
I totally agree, its not the same (i know i'd choose the manual given the choice). Isn't it also so much better knowing you can do your own heel toe, then having the car do it for you? Same logic isn't it?
Open the valve with Carly unplug the valve cable and you have always open exhaust valves. Rev match is enabled in all modes with a software update I think. I say this because my 2018 has rev match in all modes
its not about the Gripping Surface on such Brakes its all about the Gripping Performance and Power and they to distribute Heat away from it. This brake setup is really damn good. The F80 M3 is stupid light for its size.
You can turn the car on not start it and set the mode to sport plus and then start it with the exhaust valves open. Or u can climb under and disconnect the actuators while the actuators are open. Tape off and bag the connectors to keep them clean. The car was really engineered for use with a DCT. The manual was an omage to previous gens. The trunk, who cares? Anyway, like your vids
The number 1 through 6 things I hate about your car is the fact that you have a sunroof instead of a carbon fiber roof on an M3. What are you doing man.
for the valve you can install xHP, Carly for BMW, and control it from your phone, or you can open your valves and disconnect the connector from the back its easy to reach, this keeps the valves open
You can start the engine with valves opened. You have to turn you egnishen on without starting the engine and then you select sport plus mode for your throttle responsibility and then hit the gas pedal. This opens the valves and you can now start the engine with valves opened.
Funny, my M140i also starts in Comfort but it opens the exhaust valve for the first ~30 Seconds. The Sport Plus not rev matching is actually a nice feature because this is for knuckle heads like me that want to rev match manually, just like shifting and keeping it on the road despite hooning attempts. Your thirds complaint: because race track. Be glad you have an oil temp gage because this has become exclusive for M cars.
i will say it simple. Learn to drive this car!!!! you bought an manual .... don`t cry! many people, dream about this car. Buy a E36 to learn, how to downshift. :)
LOL, the reason why there is no auto rev match for sport plus is because it's NOT supposed to be cruise and it's supposed to be the "sportiest" most engaging drive mode. You're entitled to your opinion, but I'd imagine most people agree with how sport plus is architected.
That is a very fair statement and I do not disagree. I just wish there was a button that allowed me to turn it on and off in any mode. I would love to hear the perfect rev matches in the loudest exhaust setting that’s all. Anyways, thanks for watching, I appreciate it
I don't understand why this video has 233 thumbs currently when I am writing my review. These are totally valid concerns for someone who spent 80k plus on this car.
I've seen a video. where after a drive in sports plus with the valves open, You turn off the car and unplug the wires to the valves from the exhaust to permanently keep them open if that's what you want.
I say do it. I did it on mine a long time ago and never plugged them back in. You get the growl going even in efficient and since it's a manual you won't get that drone when on the highway. I also unplugged the fake-engine-noise-through-stereo amp in the trunk.
To be honest, these beemers are made so they are really programmable. Just learn the basic softwares that can change the cars software and you are good to go.
This is something I heard about manufacturers intentionally using smaller brake pads on performance cars or on any car for that matter. As you wear out the pads and rotors, the rotors will only wear in the center where the pads touch creating a ridge on the outer rim making uneven wear. So when the time comes to change the pads, you'll need to change the rotors as well as the surface has been worned unevenly.
Your wrong You can start the car in sports plus with valves open! first press the ignition but don’t press the brake. This was the instrument cluster will light up but the engine won’t be on. Next turn the throttle to sport plus and depress the accelerator. This will open the valves. Finally turn on the car and viola! you have started it with sports plus on the valves simples
Arman_dleg hmm I don't know. I really like this exhaust. Did you see my vlog 03 where I showcase the exhaust? It's fairly loud. I live in a community of homes and I leave my house at 6 AM for work so I don't want to wake my neighbors up.
Ok everyone I'm tired of people spreading lies. YOU DONT NEED TO HEEL TOE TO DOWNSHIFT SMOOTHLY. whoever says you need to heal toe to downshift smoothly is a LIE. You can downshift smoothly without heel toe
spekulantz23stażem dzięki za wiadomość. M4 nie mogłem ponieważ mam dziecko które wożę codziennie wiec musiał samochód być wygodny. Mogłem kupić m4 albo Porsche 911 ale wtedy bym tylko na weekendy i track nim jeździł i to sam wiec zdecydowałem ze m3 to jedyna opcja która ma sens dla mnie. Jeżdżę nim codziennie i mam uśmiech od ucha do ucha. A córka tez nie narzeka! Hehe
Fakt. M4 tylko w wersji coupe. No ja posiadam e90 kupiłem 5 letnią również miałem uśmiech na twarzy za każdym razem jak wsiadałem i jeździłem bez celu. Niestety na ta chwile to już stary samochód może kiedyś jak zarobie większa kasę sprawie sobie coś nowego, ale M3 chyba do końca w sferze marzeń ;)
spekulantz23stażem e90 tez jes świetny a zwłaszcza w wersji M. Chociaż znam ludzi która zwykła 335 przerobili na coś naprawdę szybkiego i tak zwana „M3 killer”
Tommy L Garage looks means nothing. I've owned 7 M3s in the last 24 years. Alfa stole my heart!! I could've bought M4 for few $1000s less but couldn't do it
I live on Monte Berica in N Italy. I drive a 2018 F80. I have NEVER seen an Alfa Quadrifoglio. Nobody in their right mind, given the history of Alfa Romeo would ever be stupid enough to buy one. I drive to Milan and Lago di Garda and Venice for business and pleasure all of the time. Never have I seen one. So there. Question answered. Problem solved. Finito.
for the downshift and the comments tthat say its a manual. yes it is but it would be the best if there was a button for that and everyone will be happy :)
First, You have to ensure sport plus is a preset in either the M1 or m2 button. Then you want to turn on the battery of the car. While the battery is on you want to enable the M1 or m2 mode whichever you have as sport plus and then press the gas to open the valves. Then you want to start up the car and you’ll definitely hear a difference. I have an m4 competition and I do it all the time
No worries. I run Akrapovic Evolution on mine, the difference between sport and sport+ is even more as compared to stock. The over run kicks in at an even lower rpm too.
JunHeng23 Okay let me correct myself. Over run lasts for 4 seconds instead of 3 seconds. Pops are very similar. Again I only drive in Sports+ anyways but just saying over all loudness is the same. No difference in exhaust flap opening.
Ben Dover perhaps that makes sense. But the sound is still louder in sport + vs sport. Just like you though I also drove in sport + only. Gotta love the pops!!
Errr sport + is meant for the car to be driven to the limit - meaning you the human has to do everything (including rev match) - this is tantamount to complaining that a sports car doesn't have adequate cup holders -_- Also - temp difference of your dash is for oil not radiator fluid, viscosity difference means the needle won't neccesarily be in the middle...
Alexander Kwamin I haul my family in it on weekends and it’s not bad. But my daughter is 2 and she can’t complain yet. My wife hates the seats. I love them. But these cars make fantastic snow plows!
i dont usually dislike the "things I hate about my car" type of videos because they usually have some valid point but man you have the stupidest points i have ever heard... You can have the exhausts valves opened, you can rev match yourself (if you dont know how then learn), its the water temperature and no comments on the idrive position... You usually use the idrive on a steady gear, you dont shift then use it then shift again and use it... wtf
@@TommyLGarage Feel proud about it! It’s a good video and many other people have likely had some of these complaints and learned from this, so thanks for posting it. People change. People learn. People develop new opinions. It’s all good.
Test drove brand new 18 M3 comp manual. Sounds like digital garbage, I mean atrociously bad. Brakes are like a digital on off button, no granularity. And the engine feels like a diesel. Falls on it's face after 5k, stops pulling. Bought an RCF. Sounds amazing, brakes amazing, and pulls like a freight train to redline. This is coming from x2 E46 M3 owner. The F80 sucks. The M2 much better, but too much of a donkey.
Everything you said is so petty and just a bunch of nonsense so you can "vlog" about your m3. And above all that, mostly everything you said is 'fixable' you just gotta stop videoing and research more
@@TommyLGarage no need not to be probu, I think all of your points are absolutely valid and it's nice to hear owners perspective on things that aren't really mentioned all that often. Well except that temp gauge, 250f is normal at the track, and that is what this car is made for as well :)
