6 Tips for Ultra-Wide Portraiture

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Does a lens really need to be somewhere between 70 and 200mm to be a real portrait lens? Of course not! Let's go over my 6 tips for shooting not just wide, but ULTRA WIDE angle portraiture.
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@curtis.strange 4 года назад

Would love to see more videos like this, great work buddy!

@frankiecalabro2617 2 года назад

Such a great video Wes!

@SonOvaBoss Год назад

this video was soo helpful, would love to see more content like this

@terrywong3223 2 года назад

I enjoy taking environmental portraits with my 16-35 ultra-wide lens. Thanks for the inspiration, Wes !

@grottoserpentina9342 4 года назад

Excellent tutorial You put the joy into UWA photography Thanks!

@imgcrastu 2 года назад

These are really good and useful tips. Thx a lot.

@frankiecalabro2617 4 года назад

Fantastic video Wes!!!!

@nashhall694 4 года назад

I love this Wes, I’ve only been into photography for 2 years now mostly doing landscapes, but as I venture more into portraiture, I’ll be taking some of those concepts with me! ❤️ your work. 👍😀

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Thanks, Nash!

@pedrobartolomei7707 Год назад

One of the Best videos about this subject on RU-vid thank you very much

@WesPerry Год назад

Thanks, Pedro!

@sheadeighanphotography 3 года назад

Fantastic work and great video.

@AdrianLardPhoto 4 года назад

Great video Wes! I've been wanting to do more wide angle portraits. I need to spice things up and try something new. Thanks for the motivation!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Do it! 👌🏻

@caravanlifenz Год назад

Beautiful shots.

@thureintun1840 2 года назад

Really informative. Thank you. I will try with my 16-35 lens.

@wendystumbaugh695 3 года назад

Hi Wes! I've been wanting to explore UW portraiture, and now I'm going to start. I have a16-35mm f/4 fe Zeiss for my Sony a73. I usually just use this lens for my real estate photography, but I need to take my environmental portraiture to another level of creativity. Thanks for the video, my friend!

@Sallyelia81 2 года назад

Thanks a lot for great tips This is what I was looking for

@rickierecardophotography7406 4 года назад

Thank you for this extremely valuable video. I was struggling until now!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Happy to help!

@famdeejay 4 года назад

Great job on this topic Wes!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Thanks, Jose!

@essychan 4 года назад

Hi Wes, just bought the Sony A7III and first came across one of your lens comparison videos. I love the relaxed vibe that you send out, it's just very comforting :) Now going through your channel for more vids! ❤️

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Happy to hear it! 👍🏻

@basilioskay8159 Год назад

super video man !!!

@andrewb5345 10 месяцев назад

Brilliant. Thank you 🙏

@longkedah Год назад

Best video.sharp video and wide tips.thanks sir

@gosman949 4 года назад

As a landscape photographer mainly, I love your wide angle portraits. Recently I have been trying to hone my portrait photography and have dismissed my landscape wide angles as not permissible. Now you have given me permission to experiment with wider angle portraits!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Use what you have and what you know! I’m pretty mediocre at landscapes myself. Maybe you could come up with some portraits even better than mine by using your landscape skills 👌🏻

@Mraz75 Год назад

Thank you sir. Really appreciate this..

@autumnbreezekhoa 4 года назад

Great tips Wes, thanks for sharing!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Glad I could help!

@RYstudio202_PA 2 года назад

Your professional presentation was very interesting and inspiring.

@Zengineer 4 года назад

Great video, thanks for sharing!

@mauriziocascone Год назад

Gret vid, thanks for sharing!

@BrianDuaqui 4 года назад

Perfect video!! I love shooting my sony 24 gm for portraits. I'm like you, learn what needs to be learned then F the rules and further your creativity and move out of the "Box".

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I really need to get my hands on that lens! It’s looks great, but I’ve been hesitant because I’m a big fan of 35mm and 16mm and rarely anything in between. Haha

@JasonLorette 4 года назад

I love my Sigma 18-35 (most used lens) and my Tokina 11-16...wides can be super fun. :)

@hurleygreen927 3 года назад

This video is jst what I needed to start using a Nikon 12-24mm DX lens for portraits! Thanks for the tutorial!

@WesPerry 3 года назад

Enjoy!

@terencemorrissey4413 4 года назад

Excellent tips

@dpfreedman 4 года назад

Extra credit for the Jonathan Swift reference! Bravo!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

It kinda slipped out, and then I panicked a bit. Haha

@duschbrauser 4 года назад

Great photos...

@bluecologne25 4 года назад

Information like this are gold to all photographers. Not much information about wide angle portrait are searchable in RU-vid. Thank you! On the same note, any tip on how to incorporate wide angle portrait with flash photography? That would be an awesome sequel!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Ah! Everyone’s asking that! (Okay, not everyone, but something like that). Yeah, I sometimes do and sometimes don’t. And it has a lot to do with separation from the background, as I mentioned. Something I forgot to mention is that sometimes an ultra wide portrait can come off looking very flat and 2 dimensional. If I’m having any difficulty with that (or the usual balancing subject light with the sky), then I crack out the flash, whether side or back or front. Always deciding on the go.

@joydipsarkar984 3 года назад

I like your concept ...

@abhikaulavkar 4 года назад

Very guided👌 .....thanks 🙏🏻

@craiggagnon8407 4 года назад

I think you have hit on some really important points. First, adding such wide angle into the environment your clients are in might seem odd to them at first, but a little conversation beforehand would go a long way into solving that issue. The result is a few shots that will hit their subconscious in a wonderful way and really take them back to a specific moment the way a tighter photo can't always do because you're right, a portrait is super personal, and the way a person processes important moments in their life is often much more macro than we know. (I thought of this allll by myself hahaha). Second, #6. YES. Creativity is what will set you free personally, but also set you apart. No brainer. Great video Wes.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Good words. I don’t care what Claire says about you, I think you’re a pretty sharp guy 😏

@craiggagnon8407 4 года назад

@@WesPerry hahaha thanks. I took a trip to your site, you're a Canuck, cool beans. Claire and I toyed with selling everything we own to try to open an Eco resort/ Yoga retreat on Grand Manaan out your way. Really huge idea however, and Claire hates cold, wet weather so maybe living on a 100foot cliff over looking the Atlantic wasn't going to be what she needed long term. The shift has been Costa Rica. :|

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Yeah, I would imagine Costa Rica is a little friendlier weather-wise throughout much of the year 😬 And Grand-Manaan can be a super isolating place. Hard to get on and off the island, and very separated from the rest of the world.

@wesbaynham1634 4 года назад

Great video and would love to see more similarly themed content on composition, how to's, rather than the gear stuff...... From another Wes awake at 0445 in the UK. Keep up the good work.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

The problem is, how-to videos rarely do as well as gear videos. And when you’re aiming to make a living, or part of a living, on youtube, you have to make the kind of content people will watch. Really hoping this one does well so that I Can make more 🤞🏻 Thanks, Wes! And this Wes is now awake at 5:55 in Canada 😒😂

@wesbaynham1634 4 года назад

@@WesPerry Sure I was thinking gear vids = $$$ when I was writing my first comment, and have found your gear reviews very good for helping me decide the best way to part with my £££ (as a new-ish amateur). It's also nice to watch someone who present's in a relatively calm way and not in an overly flamboyant manner like some RU-vidrs !

@RYstudio202_PA 2 года назад

Very informative!

@WesPerry 2 года назад

Happy to hear it, Rod!

@martinsrensen3869 3 года назад

Thanks just got a 12-24 mm awesome tips

@tanako98 2 года назад

I just began using my sigma art 14-24 2.8 this past weekend. Gives you a whole lot more creativity etc…

@WesPerry 2 года назад

Awesome! How’s it going?

@63MacGuy 4 года назад

Great video. I love your channel. You seemed a little more natural, not as scripted as usual 😀

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I’m never scripted! Haha. I usually have the order of categories and some bullet points and that’s it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@stlstudios3061 4 года назад

@@WesPerry Keep up the great work, we appreciate it!

@1949AKN 2 года назад

Good subject.

@kailetsingson1558 3 года назад

Thank you

@jasonmalwitz8044 4 года назад

One of the best tips for shooting couples wide angle is to have them bend at the waist toward the camera to alleviate distortion.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Great tip!

@heydougphotography6112 4 года назад

I think non photographers associate that bokeh with image quality, especially with weddings, essentially because of the kit needed to create it. Great video 👍

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Now that our phones are doing a better and better job of it, it might be time to start letting it go 😉

@rjexplorationandreviews2936 4 года назад

Funny how I just got my 24mm 1.4 gm yesterday for portraits and today you have a video out about this topic..👍🏻🤣 Your the best.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Sorry, but you’ll have to trade it in for something wider 😂 (Or just send it to me for testing 😏 haha)

@rjexplorationandreviews2936 4 года назад

Wes Perry 😂🤣 Not really, I also have the 16-35 2.8 gm..🙈 I have a serious case of GAS..

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Goood Goooooood 😂

@ZakiQutteineh 4 года назад

Would love to hear your thought process regarding scenarios where you would decide to 'add artificial light vs simply stick to natural light' in your outdoor portraiture. A video perhaps? I'm addicted to flash; can't help but add flash 99% of the time ... and looking for ways to fix that.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I considered mentioning that a bit in this video, but decided to keep it somewhat short. Maybe 1/3 of the shots I showed here have off camera flash. Mostly the AD600 Pro, since you have to get reasonably far away to keep it out of the ultra wide shot. I’ll keep that in mind for a future video, though 👍🏻

@sundaramkumarappan5244 3 года назад

can you throw some light on aperture settings for wide angle shots please

@robwasnj 4 года назад

I really loved your examples, too many shots with a long lens and bokeh'd out background leads to so little variety, I'm guilty of this.... you've made me rethink my next shoot.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Go break some rules! 👊🏻😏

@chryseass.5143 4 года назад

Thanks Wes, I will keep your comments in mind when I finally get to take my new Tamron 17-28 f2.8 lens out for a proper photo shoot. Any luck on the housing front for you ? I noticed you are still in your old "studio" so you haven't moved yet!

@WesPerry 4 года назад

It’s complicated. Our realtor is hopeful this coming weekend will result in a bid 🤞🏻 These things don’t happen overnight! (Not usually, but it Would be nice 😏)

@jerryabs 3 года назад

HI, What do you thing about Sigma 15-30mm f3.5 for portrait?

@neofamily23 2 года назад

Great vid! What apperture is recommended for portraits? Using canon rf 15 to 35 mm 2.8 IS thanks!

@WesPerry 2 года назад

Depends on the desired effect. If there is no particular thought there, I’ll shoot wide open for the marginal amount of subject separation it might create. If you want the clouds in the sky to pop, you’re looking at 5.6 to 8. If you want to get sun stars or better flare effects, you’re looking at f9 to f11, depending on how your lens behaves.

@chandanamarnath1934 3 года назад

Love the T-shirt.

@WesPerry 3 года назад

That was an accident. I usually try to wear something a little less distracting for videos, but forgot to change 😂

@chandanamarnath1934 3 года назад

Still thanks for the tips and advise, will try it soon on the field.

@TW-iu9zy 4 года назад

... Wes, it’s 2 o’clock in the morning in Germany! But very, very usefull tipps for taking photos of people, so I‘am awaking ... 😄 ... How important are flashes for you when you shooting UW portraits?

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I do sometimes use off camera flash. I considered discussing that as well, But didn’t want to go on all night. Some Germans need to sleep, right? 😏 I usually use the stock reflector on the AD600 Pro, because when you’re shooting this wide, it’s pretty much impossible to keep the flash out of the photo (unless you do a composite, which I avoid at all cost), and that shoots a good distance. Often I’ll just use it to create and edge light to make some background separation. Or sometimes a fake sunset beside or behind them.

@martinohesse Год назад

I suggest people give a glance to the Bill Brandt work with wide angle lens, he achieved stunning and creative portraits....

@hdahir545 3 года назад

Thanks i have done portrait from 24mm f1.4 , 50mm f1.4 , 200mm f1.8 , 400mm f2.8 And now i get new 12-24mm f2.8 for to try ultrawide portrait

@WesPerry 3 года назад

Can’t wait to try that lens 😏👌🏻

@donaldbrocksmith9508 Год назад

When shooting a large family group in a small space how do you best frame the shot so that you don't get distortion on the far ends of the image? Shoot the entire group in the middle of the frame, both right to left and up and down?

@WesPerry Год назад

Yeah, shoot them entered, and even overshoot on the necessary width and then crop in after if need be. The distortion at the edge of the frame is going to be worse no matter what focal length and how much distortion correction you're going to be using. So give yourself some breathing room to crop should you discover you've made a horrible framing mistake when working on the edits 😂

@caseyonlocation8257 4 года назад

Great wide angle images! Now I need to get a wider lens, LOL! But I shot my wad on all my Godox stuff, haha!

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

Well you'd better clean your Godox gear first then lol.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

The great thing about ultra wide lenses is autofocus can be pretty unimportant, so if you’re not using real estate or Astro photography where sharpness is super critical, you don’t have to spend an awful lot! Or, you know, you could just save your money. Always an option, too (not usually for photographers tho. Haha)

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Peter 👀😂

@symzg5995 4 года назад

Great info. Thank you. But quick question, do you normally shoot wide open or stop down when shooting wide???

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Excellent question (one that I cut for time). If I have the sun or an off camera flash pretending to be the sun, I stop down to f/9 to f/13 to create better light effects like lens flares and sun stars. Otherwise I keep it open at f/2.8 to f/5.6 just to keep my AF-C working really well. Just about everything stays in focus for the most part anyway (at full body distances).

@symzg5995 4 года назад

@@WesPerry cool. Thanks

@sjm.photos 4 года назад

😍

@pixelartistphotography5091 3 года назад

Wow that's nice explanation, even i want shoot weddings with ultra wide, but when it's come to selection part,clients mostly likes the pics which shot between 50-135 focal length, how to deal with it

@WesPerry 3 года назад

It’s a slow process, honestly. Once you’ve filled your portfolio with a certain kind of work, the clients who hire you will be looking for that work. So until you’ve attracted clients specifically with your ultra wide portraiture, they’ll still be looking for the usual stuff. Since half my portfolio is ultra wide, my clients pick those photos almost half the time. (In general people are more likely to choose a photo where they’re clearly identifiable over one where they’re not, though (as they’re too small or silhouetted), so there will always be a tendency toward the longer focal lengths to some degree).

@pixelartistphotography5091 3 года назад

Thank you! I agree with you points. I will slowly build my portfolio with wide angle shots, so if i am buying u. Wide angle lens now, it should be Canon 11-24mm or rf15-35mm

@WesPerry 3 года назад

I mean, if you can afford it, I’d go with the RF. Going wider than 15mm is really only useful for architecture and real estate, some landscapes. Things get a bit crazy up there.

@zacx6970 3 года назад

The hardest photography style. A lot of things to consider, backgrounds, composition, angles. also keep in mind you need a very good places to take the shoot which means it will cost you much more than taking portraits photography.

@madyol9046 Год назад

Hye Wes. I’m just a lil bit curious. When we taking photos for Bride and Groom, do we need to ensure them in the middle or just break the rules and let the subject in the grid line for composition ? Thanks in advance for your help

@madyol9046 Год назад

For example your photos sample at the 8:17 minutes on your video

@WesPerry Год назад

For that one they’re still quite close to centre. They’re both skinny people, though, so there’s a little more leeway in that particular instance.

@a.l.alexander3668 3 года назад

Bro you just turned me on to wide angle portraiture. I was going to buy the Samyang 75mm 1.8 for portraits but now I'm getting the 18mm 2.8

@WesPerry 3 года назад

Haha. Can’t it be both? 😂

@a.l.alexander3668 3 года назад

@@WesPerry I just meant first!

@jianqiangzhangchina1007 Год назад

Hi, How to light up the person in your ultra-wide portrait photo? Thanks

@WesPerry Год назад

When necessary an AD600 Pro or AD300 Pro

@josephcullen5872 4 года назад

I've been pretty typical so far in my portraits and avoided environmental shots but I'd like to try. Can I just ask for the wide shots where flash was used was this just bounced on camera or off camera?

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I don’t generally use on camera flash. When there’s flash it’s off camera. Usually the AD600 Pro

@josephcullen5872 4 года назад

@@WesPerry awesome, much appreciated!

@ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck 2 года назад

My struggle with wide angle is focusing and what aperture to use for a couple shoot to make sure they are in focus. Any tips on that?

@WesPerry 2 года назад

I shoot different apertures depending on what look I’m trying to achieve. 2.8 if nothing in particular just for focusing (subjects will all be in focus then anyway), 5.6 if I want the sky to pop a bit more, and 9-11 if I want to get some sun stars. At 9-11 you usually have to switch to single shot or AF-S, as AF-C or continuous doesn’t work as well anymore.

@ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck 2 года назад

@@WesPerry Best tip ever. Will try today and see how it goes. Thanks Wes from Regina SK

@travelwithcanon7313 4 года назад

Can I Get This Job Done By Using Canon 80d which is crop sensor by using 10-18mm f:4.5 lens

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Yep! That gives you a full frame equivalent of 16-28.8mm.

@brunocahete1486 19 дней назад

Great!!! No turn around direct to the point!!

@dalvysjorge9233 4 года назад

Thank you for the video, what about a 12-24mm?

@WesPerry 4 года назад

I’m gonna say that lens is almost obsolete now that the Sigma 14-24 2.8 is out. Unless you really need those two extra mm, and want the lighter lens, you can get something that’s sharper, brighter, for less. 😬

@dalvysjorge9233 4 года назад

@@WesPerry Thank you!

@JainoCMathew 8 месяцев назад

I am having trouble getting sharpness on my ultrawide shots. I am using sigma 14-24 ef lens

@WesPerry 8 месяцев назад

What camera and focus modes are you using?

@arshadhussain6477 3 года назад

Hello sir I'm Arshad from india I'm a wedding photographer Sir which is best for wide angle shot I've Nikon 750, Nikon 810, Nikon Z6

@WesPerry 3 года назад

Also depends on what lenses you’re using. Adapted lenses can cause issues at ultra wide angles, so the Z6 might get more softness around the edges than it normally would if you’re adapting an F Mount lens to it.

@edowijaya8603 3 года назад

for wedding photography, better 20mm or 24mm?

@WesPerry 3 года назад

For the day to day, if it’s a prime, I wouldn’t want to go any wider than 24mm. While the ultra wide stuff is a lot of fun, it has to be done with intentionality, and you wouldn’t want to be stuck there at all times.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

You were never Bokeh Boy Wes you were always Tank Man to me. Lovely photos and good examples of your discussion points. Learn the rules then break them hey. That's very Pablo Ruiz Picasso.

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Haha. I haven’t shot at the tank in a while now. Will have to go back again soon 😉

@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman 2 года назад

The best thing about wide angle lenses is that you actually have to go to a beautiful place.

@WesPerry 2 года назад

Yep. No hiding things! Well…not easily at least. Haha

@frogfrogu 3 года назад

Great video. But the attempt at poetry missed the mark: The sky imbues the photo with pathos? I hope not!

@WesPerry 3 года назад

You don’t think that the right sky can impart emotion to a photo?

@frogfrogu 3 года назад

@@WesPerry Of course I do. I love sky photos. But your word choice (around 7:30) "pathos" means a quality that evokes pity or sadness. I don't think that the Sony 16-35mm universally does that to photos. But the point that you were reaching for is that the wide angle lens makes powerful and emotional photos of the sky. To that I agree. Loved the video. And your pictures too. Please forgive the comment. I gave into comment temptation.

@WesPerry 3 года назад

No worries. Just discourse ;) Having a background in theatre, I’m more accustomed to the traditional meaning of pathos, which is any appeal to elicit emotion, part of the three appeals of persuasion, Pathos, Ethos and Logos: charleshstewart.com/blog/ethos-logos-and-pathos/

@frogfrogu 3 года назад

@@WesPerry Oh, interesting. I just learned something. Thanks!

@FrankP83 4 года назад

So...learn rules to brake🤗

@WesPerry 4 года назад

👌🏻

@normski4ash 4 года назад

Once more my friend, another great vlog ! Point 1. I think the 70-135mm "Portrait" lens works great in a studio, boring black or white backdrop, makes the proportions seem right. Point 2. As per Tip 6, Break it ! Watch you tube vids on the rule of turds (oops sorry Typo, "Thirds" ) and after ranting on for eons about the aesthetics of the composition (whatever that means) they will then say, " But Hey ! Rules are made to be broken ! " So why harp on about it ? Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh... I love getting down low with my Canon (sorry for swearing there) 17-40mm on my A7III, and taking shots at 17mm... Get as much in as possible, especially if the background suits, that's why we go out on location shooting, How many people go to the most boring, or ugliest place they can find to take shots ? NONE ! So why not include the gorgeous scenery that you have found in the shots. Hey it only takes seconds to swap out a lens and get some tight shots too... Try both, see what you prefer... Rant over, Cheers M8...

@WesPerry 4 года назад

It’s usually best to break the rules once you already know them. Then you have a greater of awareness of what you’re doing and are making a more intentional composition choice rather than just trial and error. (Usually) And I generally shoot with two bodies on me, one with the 16-35GM and one with the 85GM, so I can appease both parts of my brain 😏

@normski4ash 4 года назад

@@WesPerry Yes at a wedding I'll shoot 2 bodies, but on a portrait shoot I only use the one. Good point, follow what the "pro's" say to be safe until you know/understand what you are doing, then play. Same with any genre of photography, or anything in life I suppose, I purposely went out (maybe even several times) using the trial and error method, and developed a style that I like, and so do the clients hopefully !!! which has given me a good understanding of what works and what doesn't. Practice makes purrfect ! Where is tiddles today ? didn't see him in the vid... Cheers

@WesPerry 4 года назад

Maggie, it turns out, was hunting a mouse (in the house). He pulls his weight around here. 😉

@don_tpanic6052 Год назад

Why Jeff Bezos is talking about portraits on youtube?

@WesPerry Год назад

Even the rich can fall on hard times, my friend 😏

@JTroker Год назад

I don't like it. People are too small and too far. I rather stay with the old method. Do you want to show that you are innovative, so be it. I don't like little people in the photograph that can't recognize.

@WesPerry Год назад

Believe it or not, not everyone is looking at photos on their phone ;)