6 Ways to RUIN Your FPV Drone!

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Joshua Bardwell and Le Drib are back at it again to tell you why everything you love is WRONG and RUINED.
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0:00 Intro
1:06 Nylon Standoffs
3:56 Unnecessary 3D Printed Parts
6:18 Stacking Pin Headers
9:24 Super-Slammed Builds
11:35 Titanium Motor Screws
12:48 5-inch Under 250g
15:46 Outro
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@MrGaussFPV 3 года назад

I'm still convinced that the best way to ruin your drone is to crash it

@ze2004 3 года назад

just look guys like Captain Vanover and you will know if you are going in the right direction.

@ferdifant_fpv686 3 года назад

Well, you got a point...

@just4amigoz 3 года назад

Lol🤣🤣🤣agree.

@billyshears9714 3 года назад

You might be onto something

@shogun231084 3 года назад

From the videos I've seen I would say the best way to ruin your quad is let drew fly it 🤣🤣🤣 And I say this out of jealousy that he is so much better than me.

@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад

I was just in the middle of a sub 250g 8 inch quad with titanium screws and nylon stand offs only 5 mm high wrapped in red electrical tape with a huge picnic table of a spoiler on the back and the most resilient wooden bumpers you've ever seen! IM OFFENDED BY THIS VIDEO!!!

@tribefpv 3 года назад

Bro so funny 👍

@planksimonproduktion9399 3 года назад

😂😂😂man this is so funny it made me laugh on a rough day. Thanks!

@gautamkrishna7421 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@matthebert007 3 года назад

Damn shame- did you have the 2 lbs of 3D printed parts ready too?

@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад

@@matthebert007 Now that would be silly....... 🤣🤣🤣

@underkutfpv5108 3 года назад

me and my nylon standoffs are gonna go cry in the corner. hahaha

@processingunit5321 3 года назад

now go buy steel ones

@mateensaliminejad1853 3 года назад

I haven’t flown in months and am missing it so much😭

@nefffpv6002 3 года назад

I feel

@NathansLife 3 года назад

@@nefffpv6002 woah we have closely the same username.

@nefffpv6002 3 года назад

@@NathansLife BRO WHATUP

@cowboyfpv2464 3 года назад

Ngl I missed it so much to a point I said as long as I fly something even if it's one pack I'm chill 😂😂😂 I stress tf out if I can't be in the sky 😂😂

@MadDragon75 3 года назад

I'm just getting back into it. My poor batteries... They lost their soul. Maintenance people.. Don't forget to maintain them.

@maritimesoul 3 года назад

I come from the aerospace industry where titanium is used frequently. I believe you're right Joshua, you can make smaller lightweight parts with titanium but you are correct in that if any of the highly polished surfaces showed any signs of even the lightest scratch that part is scraped in my industry, titanium will fatigue fail where steel will just slowly deform.

@danusas88 Год назад

But if you're going to crash your drone, wouldn't you prefer the screws to be the weakest link so that you'd have a better chance of saving the motors? The crash impact energy needs to be absorbed somehow; I would prefer it not go to the motors.

@1997Jeep 8 месяцев назад

@@danusas88Titanium and steel have different levels of DUCTILITY. Steel can undergo significant plastic deformation before it fails. Titanium, is more prone to fracture. Over tightening a steel screw stretches it, and locks the threads, a titanium screw fractures and fails when you are depending on it later. ( I hope this isn't a lightweight build intended to be around people )

@Lozoot2 3 года назад

Here's an easy one I'm surprised you guys didn't mention: Not using your smoke stopper because you're too lazy to reach over the extra foot to get it and you're _pretty sure_ you soldered everything up correctly on your first try.

@CockroachSlidy 3 года назад

Never had one of those. I use my bench power supply to test drones. It has short protection and, as a bonus, shows how much current is drawn.

@wongalahara8196 3 года назад

It blows my mind that people can't tell if they've soldered something incorrectly.

@Lozoot2 3 года назад

@@wongalahara8196 I was the same until I followed a chinesium wiring diagram that was included with an ESC, which turned out to be for a previous revision where the vbat+ and ground pads were swapped

@wongalahara8196 3 года назад

@@Lozoot2 snap good point dude. I didn't think about that!

@Lozoot2 3 года назад

@@wongalahara8196 and sometimes it's not even the solder job - a lot of the times the wiring harness from a FC to a 4-in-1 doesn't match up and it's easy to mistake which side is supposed to be "up" on the wiring diagram. Just yesterday I wired one backwards at first but caught it when triple-checking with my multimeter. I'm glad I've made it a habit to check!

@dalemurray6834 3 года назад

Don’t forget JB. 1 more way is to link your air unit and goggles with a metal pair of tweezers

@BubbyFPV 3 года назад

🤣

@loen9591 3 месяца назад

@@BubbyFPVwhat? you answered here and no one noticed????? in 3 YEARS??????? YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@HellHoundzProductions 3 года назад

Never thoughts about it but from a former aircraft assembler your right. We would put lead rivets where expansion and contraction would happen and titanium composite bolts where we needed rigidity They would bend to an extent when trying to get a jammed one out, (because it wasnt pure titanium) but once that tension point was reached to would snap like concrete.

@darknessmoto9912 Год назад

Coming from rc helis and being new to fpv quads these videos are awesome. I understand flight and how everything works even though I lack the drone flight hours to be considered half decent. Hearing people who have been on this side of flying talk and their experiences and knowledge is fantastic. Keep it up.

@terryrhue7354 3 года назад

How about an episode of Rotor Riot about all the bad builds you've all done and why they exploded or blew up while explaining what you all did wrong. Think I've destroyed about 5 flight controllers and 4 in 1 esc's, several VTX's ect. As always Great content, Thanks for all you guys do!!!!

@KyleLi 3 года назад

How to build your drone badly: be me

@crazicat 3 года назад

The alloy of titanium used makes all the difference! The alloy they use for titanium motor shafts works OK. But most screws of any metal sold on the open market tend to be low grade easy to work metal. Notice haw Joshua said "high grade" steel screws.

@TJPDmember 2 года назад

exactly, comparing "cheap" titanium hardware to high grade steel is a stretch. Ti will fatigue faster, but a good grade Ti hardware is more than enough.

@jacobstumme6796 3 года назад

So I have only used nylon stand-offs... 😂 I haven’t experienced them breaking in a crash, but I have definitely melted them with my soldering iron!

@mattsupertramp6506 3 года назад

Agreed

@julflips6 2 года назад

At this point I am able to smell which part of the drone I just melted

@KageBlink 3 года назад

I've been flying a flywoo explorer lr as my first drone and been loving it. I know it doesn't try to be a 5" or anything but as a sub 250g drone, its great. Also I'm from Canada. One day ill get a 5" and feel the difference, I just don't want to deal with fines or anything like that for enjoying a hobby. I love flying and this hobby is great. These videos are super helpful in future decisions in what to avoid.

@XxJackerooxX 3 года назад

Drib: "A spoiler on my car is too ricey" (said while wearing guyliner)

@tehllama42 3 года назад

Dildo flipstick would be a bit too far too

@XxJackerooxX 3 года назад

@@tehllama42 dafuq?

@flyerelite5153 3 года назад

HHHAAAAAAA

@chrisdoherty4385 3 года назад

i thought he was just really high

@rollinondubz2002 3 года назад

Ive broken 5 surgical titanimum rods in my back over the years. No ti parts for me

@ze2004 3 года назад

jezuuus mate are you ok?

@rollinondubz2002 3 года назад

@@ze2004 oh yes man been wheelchair bound since 4 years old. Nothing stopes me from doing what I wanna do. Well the broken rods do lol

@RewindFPV 3 года назад

damn another thing....... titanium screws...... tried shaving weight with aluminium screws over steel screws..... those just tore apart all the time and i broke tons of arms with them...... since i use titanium screws i never had any problems anymore. the only problem i got sometimes is that i ruin the thread in the motors cuz they are not as though as the titanium screws

@ze2004 3 года назад

@@RewindFPV now they have to improve the base of the motors in titanium

@RewindFPV 3 года назад

@@ze2004 haha 😂 well i actually think there are some titanium variants out in the market tbh 🤔

@benfoust1 3 года назад

i think there were a couple essential ones missed here. mounting the vtx antenna on the hole in the top plate, soldering the XT60 straight to the board without any wire in between, attaching the capacitor to the XT60 connector instead of inside the frame

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

Ohhh that's good.

@Plur307 3 года назад

All of those are good tips. Basically you want nothing to be a rigid connection. Everything should be able to flex a little in a crash.

@stevensbox9625 3 года назад

What's wrong with soldering the capacitor to the xt60?

@benfoust1 3 года назад

@@stevensbox9625 while it is electrically effective, it puts the capacitor at risk of being damaged. they are very fragile and i have damaged countless capacitors even when they were mounted externally in a place that i thought was safe

@drkastenbrot 3 года назад

@@benfoust1 Its electrically less effective. The point of the cap is evening out very fast spikes, any length of wire will slow it down mostly due to inductance.

@wildchildren 3 года назад

I thoroughly enjoy the banter thank you guys for being inspirations to the movement !

@fullthrottlefpv5616 3 года назад

i like how the explosion effect you used is one i used before its like the first one that comes when u google it lol

@skyrotfpv 3 года назад

Talking about slammed builds. The BQE Bandolero is such an amazing frame and not as hard to build or as heavy as it seems. Much love to BQE! 🤘

@harrytmurphy8438 3 года назад

You CAN build a nice sub-250g 5 inch quad. The fly really nice and smooth (without a fancy PID tune) which is exactly what I wanted; a 5 inch cruiser (no GoPro; not my thing). Also, it was quite durable; crashes never broke anything. Due to a video issue, I lost it in thick Florida brush. Anyway, I liked it and will build another sub-250g 5 inch; so I don't think this is a "RUIN"; quite the opposite. Since I don't do Acro and don't carry a GoPro, these builds are really SWEET and smooth little cruisers. I am also working on a light weight 7 incher. Don't know if it will make sub-250g, but think it will come in under 300g. Yeah, I know this is above the 250g mark, but I think it will be a nice long range cruiser.

@johncarold 3 года назад

Great video Guys. I laughed at the spoiler and I like it at the same time. Thanks again for the video and information on the No No's of building a drone.

@burnfpv3888 3 года назад

Sat in my office, watching this. Sub 250g 5" and a red electrical taped 5" on the shelf. Feeling the love.

@RonnyKing 3 года назад

😂

@SettekFpv 3 года назад

07:08 rember me on the wizzad hv where you try to tune and setup the esc and the only issues was the nylon standoff where to long

@mbrsart 3 года назад

Emax uses nylon frame standoffs on the THFS, and I've gotten close to stripping like 3 of them on mine.

@JohnFSmitheugene 3 года назад

Thanks guys. Good video and taken as it was intended here, anyway. There is no substitute for experience, so thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@lexanman2012 3 года назад

I love these videos lol. Love you guys. Keep it up. 🤘

@verytech3212 3 года назад

Thank you for the video, guys! Really funny)))

@ChrisFloyd 3 года назад

"You need the extra downforce for grip!" ROFL

@feelgood_cinematic1919 3 года назад

😊I enjoyed this video. The chapters section is a really nice touch 👌

@seagullhunterfpv 3 года назад

One thing not to do that I found out the hard way was to not make the wires longer than needed. 2 days ago I transferred my electronics from my old GepRC LX5 to a GepRC Mark4 frame and I managed to do so with minimal soldering, however this meant that my wires from the FC to the (separate) ESC's had no slack. I took it out and everything flown great, right up until I crashed into a branch hard on my last pack. The crash snapped an arm, but the flex from the crash actually ripped the ESC power pads right off the flight controller from the arms that didn't even break. This was simply because there wasn't any slack in the wires.

@typeOhh 2 года назад

Don't you mean not to make the wires as short as you can and have some slack?

@seagullhunterfpv 2 года назад

@@typeOhh yeah lol. To be fair both. You want enough to have slack, but not too long that it's a mess

@OneThreeSevenEleven 3 года назад

Thanks for the tips. Awaiting parts for my first 5" and am pleased I'll avoid some of these "ruins." I did get a stack with the ribbon so we'll see how that goes. Maybe add a little tape on the connector.

@dalemurray6834 3 года назад

Don’t worry to much about ribbons. I’ve been flying a matek stack using ribbon for about 2 years now . It’s had plenty of crashes and been refitted in maybe 4 quads no problems whatsoever

@OneThreeSevenEleven 3 года назад

@@dalemurray6834 Thank you!

@ofiasdfnosdf 3 года назад

I never heard about the stacking pin header issue, but damn - that explains all the weird problems I have had with my Babyhawk R!

@vhfgamer 3 года назад

I've only broken nylon stack standoffs twice. One time when I dropped a quad from 300 feet, and the other time when it got ran over by a car.

@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 года назад

I broke them landing at a hover

@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 года назад

well, only one out of four broke, but still

@CorrexPoE 3 года назад

@@VR_combat_flight_simmer well that seems not possible.. except your tune was so bad that you had huge oscillations?!

@VR_combat_flight_simmer 3 года назад

@@CorrexPoE yea, the oscillations were so bad on that drone. I was my first one two years ago. I thought I was really bad at flying until I built a new clean one, lol.

@ficere5192 3 года назад

Thank you for the reassurance, just bought 15 bucks worth of standoffs for my future builds then watched this.

@daich 3 года назад

some 4in1 racerstar ESCs need nylon standoffs as two of the holes are ground and the other two are positive battery voltage (not even the rubber isolators as those have metal threads which will rub and short out between layers....ask me how i know)

@neonoir__ 3 года назад

Mistake number 1 was bying a racerstar esc

@daich 3 года назад

@@neonoir__ yep, lesson learned about 3 years ago. but when you start out it was hard to resist the cheap stuff to "save" money. especially when every now and then there is a gem.

@wavesummit 3 года назад

@@neonoir__ it's the same as the holybro tekko s

@TheEviling 3 года назад

Glad i didnt use mine yet, would have fried it for sure. :)

@Pile_of_carbon 3 года назад

@@daich I'd say going for the cheapest parts in general is a good way to ruin the quad. I have a couple of FC: s that I bought because they were cheap. Welcome to gremlin city!

@neilfpv 3 года назад

Regarding standoffs, I'm using the rubber one. I have crashed more than 200 times, my fc and 4in1 esc are still in very good condition. I haven't changed it starting from the day I started learning fpv, June 2019!

@YotaGuy_Kyle 3 года назад

I use titanium flight stack screws and nylon spacers. Works well.

@revertfpv2928 3 года назад

mine frame is custom design 15mm its hard to fit anything there but after some time i found the perfect setup and its even easy to repair

@MichaelMeagher 3 года назад

I am putting the finishing touches on my first build..wish I had seen this earlier!! 🤣 I love the red tape though!!

@robertfazekas4607 3 года назад

I use wooden camera tilt as well, because I don't have 3D printer. Works great! 😁🤘

@FPVish 3 года назад

jb, so if a ribbon cable is no longer a good idea, what new f7 flight controller would you recommend now? I been using the Kakute F7 FC w the ribbon since you recommended it way back then

@KyleLi 3 года назад

All my builds are pretty much slammed, I have so much regret fitting an air unit into every single one of them... :'( A T-Motor F7 55A esc stack, crossfire nano, GPS, RGB controller, and buzzer into the tiny space of the racing frame that is the Transtec Laser was my first mistake. Doing the exact same with a Flywoo chasers frame was my second lol Repairing both of those takes a full day of disassembly. In order to replace the motors on either of them I have to completely disassemble the quad and with the transtec laser HD I have to remove the bottom plate and the arms as you feed the motor cables underneath a pocket created between the arms and the plate. Nightmare fuel. I've disassembled and reassembled that quad a dozen times now... so many hours of stress. Surprisingly my easiest drone to build in is a beta95x v2... If you want to build a drone with those features I mentioned above, build it in a freestyle frame not a racing one or you'll suffer.

@gap8526 3 года назад

After 2 years w a transtec laser (Nevers break anything ) I have finally done a ''''''''clean'''''''' build

@KyleLi 3 года назад

@@gap8526 this lmao, I fear the day I break an arm and have to disassemble the entire frame. That might be the day I switch haha

@gap8526 3 года назад

If u want to ne a pro par tertris just start w a racing frame x)

@KyleLi 3 года назад

@@gap8526 LMAO I jinxed myself. I forgot I posted this, but a week after I posted this comment about breaking an arm, I BROKE AN ARM. Decided I wasn't going to deal with it and bought a catalyst machineworks shocker tank. Honestly it's a much more difficult frame to assemble, but so much easier to replace a component once it breaks.

@MagicFPV 3 года назад

Badly mounted antenna! ... great video, love the outro 😂

@travisSimon365 3 года назад

Woah! I think that spoiler on the rear is kinda low-key awesome. I would totally rock one. And I might even replace it once or twice. After that ... not so much.

@dishwashersafe222 3 года назад

Thanks for the titanium screw point! It's a pet peeve of mine. Titanium is stronger than steel for the same WEIGHT, but weaker for the same VOLUME! When you replace a screw, you can't increase the volume, so you end up with a lighter AND weaker screw.

@lolzinyourmouth 2 года назад

Not to mention titanium isn’t very ductile

@ayitsyaboi 3 года назад

On point about the slammed frames. I bought the Phreakstyle from Xilo slam deck frame and went through 4 cameras before I found one that fit and my fc wires are physically crammed by the top deck. Will never buy it again, but I'll admit the challenge was fun and it looks rad.

@dr07828 2 года назад

I use nylon stand offs for my stacks.I have had pretty hard crashes and not haven't broken them. I have also broken them, but after a ton of abuse. I have also used metal screws. Nylon standoffs will not ruin your build. at least on the stack any way. I have used them since starting, and I will admit that I probably wouldn't have had to replace the few that I have, but I have had nearly no issues with them.

@gattenmattie3080 3 года назад

Ceep your content up, i love it

@badfourlife 3 года назад

shots fired with that thumbnail, bardwells pissed 🤣🤣

@hateeternalmaver 3 года назад

Great pace guys!

@KaossFPV 3 года назад

lol... looking at my stack with nylon standoffs and just realized 2 of the nuts on top came of.... didnt have any issue flying but i think i'll have to do a rebuild now :p

@KaossFPV 3 года назад

disagree on the 3d printed parts btw :p ya'll know why XD

@MANTA_FPV 3 года назад

Ohh thanks for that funny episode, bring on more of this! I laughed my ass of when i saw that spoiler picture 😂👍🏻

@pleiadianpilot5076 3 года назад

Lol the dronebuildr box, i use those. Not had any break, that i built anyway, had four snap without me even knowing on a build i bought tho

@bobturner3388 2 года назад

“Ships in bottles” I love it!

@baggszilla 3 года назад

Hahaha love it! The red electrical tape is deff a Bardwell signature.

@martin09091989 2 дня назад

Yea, for the sub 250s I go for 3"! 1804 motors, 3052-3 props, 20x20 stack and a O3 air unit and a 650 mAh 6S.... I mean 3s... Battery! 🤫 At 6S it's a serious race quad, at 3S it's a milde cinewoop! Very versatile! But don't forget to tilt your camera between modes! 😬

@elxero2189 3 года назад

I still use nylon stand offs in my stack have zero issues with them

@henkdevries2971 3 года назад

Maybe you're not flying hard enough 😜

@memorysound 3 года назад

Same

@thisguyeddiex7136 3 года назад

There's always that one guy...

@domdomalakazam4638 3 года назад

they cheaper than long screws. how easy is to unbend screw after crash? if you know how to use it nylon standoff u be fine.

@cheetahfpv6476 3 года назад

I use nylon on my rig and i break arms but ive never had my standoffs break? the main screw through the carbon is steel but the standoffs between the stacks are just fine

@GoldenMiyagiSan Год назад

I think you guys should revisit this list for this year😝

@langoustyyy7429 3 года назад

My fc has the holes for the screws directly connected to the battery + so if I use metallic screws it will burn the vtx on top of it that has holes to ground Stuck with nylon screws, crashed so may times none of them has broke yet

@TriggerFpv 3 года назад

I remember the spoiler quad 🤣 that's actually when I started following drew 🤣🤣

@MrSabram07 3 года назад

I was just about to put my JBF7 on my CL1 and was unsure how to assemble the stack. No nylon standoffs, no nylon standoffs

@crb1crb239 2 года назад

i just like the fact that there is a f4 flight contoler stack thing in Joshua's background

@austinsmith9413 3 года назад

Poo sub 250gram 5 inch, I am legitimately in the middle of a sub 125gram all up weight 5 inch build. The quad is looking to be about 95grams and I have a 2s 300mah battery that weighs less than 16grams.

@SwainixFPV 3 года назад

With the new EU regulations it makes sense lol

@Pomaufour 3 года назад

Solar powered cars look dumb yeah, but it s what makes that technology move forward...now it's gone forward you are well happy to have more efficient solar panels on your roof.

@DronoTron 3 года назад

great video. I would add, full tpu canopy for a racer. Oh man , i did it and ended destroying absolutely everything inside the drone on a hard crash. Only the carbon frame and the motors survived

@OA_RA_FBA_FBM 2 года назад

Omg I enjoyed this video so much. The ending tho 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@gonun69 3 года назад

Hey, I only did 3 out of 6, that's pretty good in my book :D

@TechnicallyTom 3 года назад

Titanium does tend to be more brittle. It is a stiffer metal, however when it is being manufactured into whatever shape is needed, it can alloy with other elements that make it less durable. It also tends to be more “slippery” than other metals and will have a greater tendency to vibrate loose if loctite is not used.

@tobiaserdmann1614 2 года назад

15:31 the outro 😹😹 man this killed me 😹👍🏼

@thelethalmoo 3 года назад

would stacks work if you rigidly connect them then soft mount the whole stack

@dmaxrc 3 года назад

Yes so true😁 funny as Cheered me up thanks for that 😄 👍

@KrotowX 2 года назад

Nylon standoffs are fine if used properly. Not as frame supports indeed. But fine for keeping stack together. In my practice breaking them happened in very rare occasions on definitely hard crashes. Stacking pin headers for FPV quads became obsolete somewhere around 2018 when all new boards started to came out with filled pads and JST 1.0 sockets.

@EraZz187 3 года назад

Now i'm ready to print a good ass looking spoiler for my Quad

@megatryn 3 года назад

I use high quality titanium screws from KCNC on my discs for my disc brakes on my downhill mountain bike. They have survived without problems for 4 years without issue now. I can't see how they can't take the strains of a quad-motor if they're good quality.

@ZacharyPiercy 3 года назад

Yeah they can certainly have *_enough_* tensile strength to get the job done (have used them and other superalloys for my job), but I think the main point JB is trying to make is their strength is still lower than a standard high grade steel fastener. Steel also generally has higher elongation at failure (9-12%) than Ti (8-10%) which helps to “fail-safe” by yielding and becoming loose rather than fracturing. tl;dr - Titanium has higher specific strength (strength/weight) but lower absolute strength. IMO if you’re bashing your DH rig around I don’t think the couple grams of lower mass is worth the loss of robustness/failure warning, but they do look sweet!

@megatryn 3 года назад

@@ZacharyPiercy On my DH rig, I save weight where it is possible and add strength where needed. Ti bolts on places that has shear load and non critical load tensile load (disc rotor mount, link monut, shock mount, seat post mount). Tires, tire inserts, and rims I use proper stuff that can take a beating, I build my own wheels with double butted spokes and brass nipples. I would for instance never use ti bolts to mount brake calipers or for stem bolts. So, yeah. Ti bolts ar perfectly fine if you know where to use them. And for looks: Mine are silver, so the look kust like regular steel bolts.

@ze2004 3 года назад

7075 aluminium for motor screws its OK? or there's like kryptonite material

@Perforator2000 3 года назад

I used 5mm tall nylon standoffs for a Kakute F7 flight controller because that is the only option. The mounting holes are not sized for soft mount grommets.

@6_Carboncrow 3 года назад

I have mounted several Kakute 7 with steel standoffs by cutting the rubber bumber in half and placing it underneath the FC. Next down the standoff is a plastic washer sitting on the ESC bumber. Works great. With the Kakute foam mounted gyro, it's all probably dampening overkill anyway!

@matthebert007 3 года назад

I like to solder across the bat and the gnd while the battery is connected. [while trying to make the lights work]- It is the BEST way to kill your FC and ESC 💪 I like it so much- I did it twice.

@posrproductions4605 3 года назад

There are a lot of cheap Titanium Grades with a low strength, so maybe you are right with that. But a great titanium grade got a tensile strength up to 1000MPA, so it is really amazing. Best regards.

@DJDevine 3 года назад

😂 fun stuff 😂 I actually used 8 nylon 5mm stack standoffs to make a 20mm high top plate to 25mm holding like a champ... they are pass through so no shearing 👍

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 2 года назад

I’m doing the unnecessary 3D parts but mine is landing gear, I weighed it out and my design comes to about a gram for a foot on each arm but it’s on a tiny hx 115 the bonus is it keeps the quad from sliding along the ground on its motor wires

@corbaxfpv1581 3 года назад

You guys should develop some "Kwad purity test", should be fun !! Thanks for the video, always happy to see that I build my kwads right :D

@ericapelz260 3 года назад

The EMAX TinyHawk Freestyle used female-female nylon standoffs for the frame. I replaced them with brass after they stripped out.

@MadDragon75 3 года назад

Ribbon cables.. Ah! Don't get me started on my Walkera Runner 250. 😬. That was my first quad. What a nightmare.

@supermaxua 3 года назад

I think much better when broken nylon standoff then when metal screw broke your FC like Kakute F7 which don't have rubber dampers.

@Noical 3 года назад

High grade titanium screws work fantastic for motors. I use 2 ti screws on each motor and have never once had a motor come off

@Plur307 3 года назад

You should weigh them. You will be surprised to find out Titanium is significantly heavier than Aluminum. Titanium has a density of 4.5g/cm^3. Aluminum has a density of 2.7g/cm^3. 3 Aluminum screws will literally be lighter than 2 Titanium screws of equal size. Most people are confused about Titanium and think it is lighter (less dense) than Aluminum, it isn't. Titanium is a lightweight alternative to steel, but Aluminum is still an even lighter choice than Titanium.

@Noical 3 года назад

@@Plur307 I have tried aluminum and had only bad experiences. Even three screws were never enough not to mention the constant stripping if you're not careful

@Plur307 3 года назад

@@Noical Yeah stripping is an issue. Takes a few mistakes to learn you can't crank them down hard like a steel screw.

@flo-ridafpv5713 3 года назад

Me too dude and 7075 alum...0 issues for years

@ze2004 3 года назад

@@Plur307 But you don't understand the principal thing that he is saying.

@trianglesky380 3 года назад

Nice. I just finished my first 5" build and I didn't do any of those things except for maybe I'm under 250grams. I'm getting a scale from Walmart rightnow..

@stickboyfpv4742 Год назад

04:52 dayyyngggg I never knew this! Thats actuallyy awesome Drew.....!!!!😆

@8alakai8 3 года назад

the nylon standoffs where not for weight blackout had them so the carbon frame would stay intact but i wanted to keep my electronics safe so i use metal

@stevensbox9625 3 года назад

Damn it guys! Just finally got all the parts to build my dream 3 & 5 inch quads on the Armattan Badger & Armattan Geiko frames and NOW you tell me slammed is no good. By the way, I'm using your board Bardwell; just came in the mail today. Looks good. Great vid guys; more please.

@RotorRiot 3 года назад

The Armattan frames generally have enough height. I think you have 15 or 20 to work with? You’ll be fine :)

@FrederickMoore 3 года назад

A lot of the Aluminum/Titanium/Steel differences depends quite a bit on the temper, grade, and alloy of the material. It's pretty common with cheap parts, particularly bolts, to have Pure Titanium which is cheap and easy to work, but is significantly weaker than some grades of aluminum. Getting the proper Grade 5/Grade 23 alloys does give you a strength similar to some grades of steel, but they are much more expensive coming from legitimate sources. I've also found titanium to be somewhat better at resisting and damping vibration and better at bending than aluminum or steel, but I don't have any real data for that. Ultimately, the weight savings you get from 16 M3 screws is like a gram or two, but the cost increase is impractical for the gram or two you save in weight ($3-$10 PER TITANIUM BOLT). There's also no real strength gains, as Gr2 titanium has a listed strength of 40,000 PSI, and Gr5 of 130,000, while Class 12.9 Steel bolts are 170,000 and the more common Class 10.9 are 140,000.

@Br4in-F4rT 10 месяцев назад

Easy to work ? Yes !!!!!!!!!

@MrCrowleyandhisdrone 3 года назад

Great show

@friendlyfireentertainment 3 года назад

I was planning on buying a Geprc Cinequeen but I noticed that it has the pin headers. Is it just the 30x30 ones that are bad or the 20x20 ones as well? I haven’t seen anyone complaining about this being a problem with this drone... is there another similar drone that doesn’t have the pin headers? Thanks

@KernsJW 3 года назад

Smaller drones, less weight, less speed, what is used to mount the stack, what is connected to the stack that may pull on it, can all affect it. Likely a cinequeen will be fine

@friendlyfireentertainment 3 года назад

@@KernsJW thanks! Do you happen to know if there are any drones better than the cinequeen under 250g? I know it is over a year old but I cannot seem to find anything else newer in the same class of drone.

@KernsJW 3 года назад

@@friendlyfireentertainment hey, haven't looked much into that class. I like to cruise, so LR has my interest and micro LR currently. Saw Sync FPV fly one recently that looked good, but I know nothing of it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zhc_325x9Xw.html

@olivertclarsen 3 года назад

I have a slam zmr with 10 mm standoffs it works great XD

@dan71559 2 года назад

Love hearing these guys hammer on each other

@rorycadorette8420 3 года назад

I made the mistake of trying to use the nylon standoffs on the eachine wizard X220S, which is one of many things that was caused from cost cutting. It ended in failure, and i immediately bought a metal stand off kit, albeit made of copper ..lol! As long as we learn, not just from our own, but from everyone's mistakes. Like the 3d printed side skirts/ landing gear/ skid plate i was gonna make, weight be damned... lmao..!?!

@SchmityFPV 3 года назад

I’m down with the spoiler lol, I’m not too picky about weight so why not looks cool.

@wing_it 3 года назад

I have hard nylon standoffs on my 2.5 inch tinyhawk fr 2, is that a problem on a 100 g drone ?

@Pile_of_carbon 3 года назад

Not a problem at all since it's hard to build up enough momentum to break the standoffs with a quad that small. It's mainly a problem on large quads like 5".

@KernsJW 3 года назад

Agreed, should be fine. 500g going 75mph is going to have a lot more inertia to deal with