I swear the Steam Deck community has grown so fast and is so strong. I hope people like CryoByte continues to do the good work he has been doing so far! Even after Steam Deck 2 launches!
dude you're basically a Deck focused Digital Foundry. The amount of data you are able to collect is nuts. keep it going my dude, don't burn yourself out though 😊😊
Thank you so much for the kind words and the incredibly kind comparison! I slowed production to a video every 2 weeks or so to prevent burnout, and I'm taking care of myself so don't worry ❤️
I had about 20 hours in HL, basically exclusively on my Deck, before I found out about CryoUtilities and this video and it is unbelievable the difference this makes. You are a legend, dude
I know this was 3 months ago but this is seriously so awesome. I don’t care if anyone else has put in this work to test this, kudos to them don’t get me wrong, but for you to lay it out like this?! Man I really hope you become one of those people that gets to live off of your RU-vid career COMFORTABLY! I’m choosing to comment this on this video because it happens to be the current one I am watching. Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do for this community. Seriously. Your commitment is beyond admirable.
This just goes to show how far UV + OC can get you. Yes, it's risky, but the gains are very noticeable. I've been playing RE4 with great performance (48-60 fps), while the internal temp was peaking at 87c. It's a risk I took, but it was a calculated one and a successful one. Great video as always, Kyle. You're the only one I'm backing through patreon, and you always deliver. Can't wait for the 40k stream, I'm preparing those Video Game Journalists surprises for you then ;)
Thank you so much for watching here too, and the comment! I agree, it definitely gives us the edge in these cases 😉 I'm looking forward to... getting grilled I guess? 😂
Keeeping the tuned additions in is my recommendation. Being able to see the improvements on a per game basis would be helpful to see the differences and allowing the viewer to see if the effort is worth it for their use case and it barely adds any extra time.
@@cryobyte33 of course, haha, I just meant from a viewer standpoint. Since you offered the option, I was just considering potential whiners on the added benchmarks when they're both helpful and only add a few extra seconds from the viewers perspective, where all we have to do is accept the information you actually worked for.
My opinion about the OC presets and tests: For me, i see them as interesting pieces of data but not useful for many people, because it is only useful to the little few, that watched the video and decided to take the risk of overclocking and have the silicone to at least match your oc. As a conclusion of this, i would say that its still interesting but maybe not worth the time and effort (from your side). The time it took in the video was ok but at the end i would present your settings differently, first the smoothest balanced and 30 versions without oc and then switch to present the oc versions, because the switching back and forth was harder to follow (still very manageable but it could be easier). To sum this up, i could live without the oc tests and presets, so that you can spend the time instead on the next video (or otherwise) but if you like the extra work to get the extra data im also happy with that too. Im very happy with your content and this shouldn't be any criticism, im just commenting because you asked in the video.
Thank you so much for your thoughts on it! I definitely agree that it adds quite a lot of overhead for me, but I think I'll try to keep them around. I might offer a poll to figure out what are the most "wanted" presets, to cut some down, though. Other than that, thank you for letting me know that separating the stock and tweaked versions would be easier to follow, I'll see what I can do in the next Deck Dive! Thanks for watching!
Yeah I won't be messing with overclocking on my SD when it comes on monday. Same as why I don't bother overclocking my 12 core Zen 3. pointless really. and it gets up towards the 90'c TJ max this time of year stock lol About 85 to 87 anyway. tried undervolting and putting it in Ryzen master ECO mode. and the division 2 crashes then 😞. Think I should have a 360 mm AIO cooler and bigger case But I am too lazy to buy it and swap it out. Just take the risk.
Love your work man. Can I make a constructive suggestion? When you mention a specific stat in the results charts, can you have an effect that draws the eye to the statistic(s) as you’re talking about them? I struggle to scan the screen quick enough when you’re talking about them to find it in time.
Hey, thank you so much for watching! I actually have those in some videos! The problem is that the effect seems to either take too long to draw, or not pull the eye enough. I'm workshopping ideas to make it better for everyone, I'm sorry that it's been rough to view 😞 Thank you for the feedback, I'll try to prioritize prototyping it to make sure that it's more accessible 🙏
I like the way the presets are done. Balanced for both who are stock as well as OC+UV. If possible, consider adding a preset with balanced fidelity and battery. Like a cross b/w battery saver and prettiest. Something in the middle of the two. Other than that, solid deep dive, as always.
I'll see if I can fit that in, but that's the intent of the balanced preset, which you could already just lock to 30 FPS if you want 🙂 Thank you for watching!
I loved my steam deck before, but after finding your channel, I enjoy playing on it wayyyyyyy more. And I spend way too much time tinkering with shit now
Thank you for watching the videos and I'm really happy that I've made your Deck even better 😁 Sorry for the tinkering habit, I spend more time tinkering than playing too lol
Hi! I just got this game and followed the instructions for the balanced settings. The frame rate seems to be solid, but for some reason I get pretty frequent stutters. I'm wondering if this is due to a shader cache issues. Does anyone else have similar issues? If so, have you found a fix?
Locked 30 is the way to play this IMHO. Unstable 40, with temps spiking >90°C is completely unacceptable for me. I'd rather lower some settings, reduce TDP, and run the game at 30fps with temps in the upper 60s. Played through the whole game this way, and it was great. 🙂
It also depends on your place in the lottery, with mine being on the lower end I have to push a lot of wattage in to maintain speed, but yeah I think the 30 is a little more pleasant as well. There's a reason I renamed "recommended" to "balanced" this time 😉 Thanks for watching another video!
I've been rocking a pretty crazy Undervolt and have been looking into getting this the next time it goes on a decent sale. Those overclocked results look pretty amazing. I might have to try them.
Just finished playing solely from the Deck! Being able to just pause and put the Deck to sleep and pickup right where I left off is a truly s-tier feature.
It s really impressive the attention to detail that you have in these videos! Another thing i consider legendary is the awareness for cryoutilities in the steamdeck community,it shows how great of a difference it makes
Got surprised when I clicked on this video while wearing the exact same AGDQ 2021 shirt. I even just changed into it around 10 minutes ago because my daughter threw up on me. Good stuff and thanks for all your hard work.
Ayyy, my wife and I both take a full week off for both AGDQ and SGDQ so my wardrobe is about 80% GDQ and Yetee shirts 😂 Thank you for watching, and I'm excited for SGDQ this year!
This is a great video! I am surprised to hear people having issues with Hogwarts Legacy. I started playing it on my Steam Deck maybe a month after it coming out, and I have never had any issues. At least no issues that are specific to HL. But that's just my anecdotal experience. It was obviously an issue with so many people running into problems.
I think it's a combination of early adoption (pre-patch) and sensitivity to stutter. I didn't play pre-patch, but I have a high sensitivity so it was harder for me to play pre-tweaking 🙂 Thanks for watching!
For games that use a lot of both CPU and GPU, it's better to lower resolution instead of using FSR2, bc that way, you're actually just moving workload from GPU to CPU. By lowering resolution, you leave headroom for the CPU to put out more frames. FSR Workload - > GPU- CPU++ = FPS+ LowRez Workload - > GPU- CPU+ = FPS++
I'm still trying to get to grips with the UV+OC. but in so nervous to push it so far. Is there any reffomended safe levels for the UV, TDP and OC? I really wanna get the best out of my deck
My previous video gives some "generally safe values", but also tells you how to test it the safest possible way, so I'd recommend watching it. Thanks for watching this video!
This was the video I was hoping for! Amazing. Not really into overclocking and undervolting myself. So could spare those settings. Someone said the newest update apparently breaks both overclocking and undervolting but not sure if this is correct. I read about it this week in a Facebook group
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it! BIOS 115 breaks UV/OC with Smokeless, but I'm working on a new method that will work on the new version. Hopefully it won't be too long.
Just reinstalled it and need some more infos. Did you leave the rest on the Display options the stock what was given to you for the prettiest setting? Especially the far Sharpness level (0,2 or 1,0?). How about the VSYNC, Framerate and motion blur, depth of field, chromatic aberration and film grain? Did you use Windowed or windowed fullscreen?
@@ElLoGGe Sorry for the delay, I've been very busy at my day job. I left the FSR sharpness level at default, Vsync is on, framerate is unlimited, motion blur disabled (but I confirmed performance was the same with it on), chromatic abberation on and film grain off. I used windowed fullscreen, and 800p. The recordings you see is 720p, but everything was tested at native resolution.
The Ascendio II Mod is now fixed as of the most recent game update. Completely disabling AA in game files and using Intel XESS gives incrediblly smooth graphics
Great video, thank you! But could you please increase the volume of your voiceover a bit? Nearly got a heart attack when ads started playing or the music during the presets because I turned up the volume so much 😂
Awesome stuff! I'm personally going to combine your recommendations with the two major perf mods on the Nexus to see if they help any further. Fantastic vid once again!
hey, awesome video man. bookmarked for when i get around to playing this. i have a question though. if i want to play docked, do i need to change anything to get the games to run at the resolution of my tv? or is it automatic upscaling? thank you!
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it! For me, it automatically scaled on TV but not on a monitor. To fix it I set the resolution manually in the system settings and also the game properties, then it auto-scaled in game 🙂
@@cryobyte33 awesome! i’m fairly techy but something about resolutions, aspect ratios, etc. just boggle my mind haha thank you again man, and good work.
A video I would love to see in the future is a dive into TLOU on the Deck. Such a mess on vanilla settings, but people in your discord say that messing with settings/cyrobyte and FSR can really help. Would be really cool to see a vid. Love the videos man
I don't have any particular in this game but I always enjoy seeing what you can achieve on Deck if you're willing to tweak things around I hope one day you'll take a look at Cult of The Lamb, it works perfectly fine out of the box, but there are these unexplainable stutters that happen like an hour into every play session and I've gone crazy trying to figure out what's causing them The loads don't seem to justify those stutters and none of the settings I tried have any effect on getting rid of them, the game just likes to randomly chug every 10 seconds or so once you've accrued enough playtime
Thanks for watching! I just got CotL so I'll need to take a look. My guess based on what you've said is a memory leak. Do the stutters persist with CU2?
@@cryobyte33 I figured it might have been a leak too but the memory usage doesn’t really ramp up I’m using the recommended settings in CU2 + 4GB VRAM in BIOS I also have to try the game with the Relics of the Old Faith update that just hit UPDATE: I tried the Relics of the Old Faith and performance is even worse It randomly chugs on my RTX 2070S PC, granted it's running in 4k over there but it used to be much smoother
Hey Cryo! What are the highest temps you have received with undercoating/overclocking. I see you reached about 90c here, but I was curious what the highest was that you have seen with GPU and CPU maxed at the same time? Just so I can compare with myself.
I mention a bit in the UV/OC video, but using the settings here the highest I've seen was a spike to 94, typically hovering around 86-88. The highest I've seen overall is a much different question, while I was purposely trying to bring the deck to its knees 😉 Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 yeah the max I saw with similar settings was around 100C! Mine runs a little hot. But I did overclock my RAM since I have the Micron branded one. That has actually helped a good bit. I don't have any software for actually recording the frame rate, but in real time I do notice a boost with the ram overclock.
Is there a video that you have that explains the tuning process? This video is the first one Ive run into that mentions this and am very interested in learning more!
random question/suggestion wouldn't it be beneficial to see fps overlayed on gpu and cpu utilization to see where the fps drops happen? Couldn't it be possible for the gpu to cap and give the 1% lows whilst the cpu hitting 1-2 core max utilization give the 0.1% lows? Obviously this might take time to edit but experimenting with it could give better insight on how utilization translates to framerate.
I actually do this for my personal testing, but I'm hesitant to do it in-video because it'll be incredibly hard to read "quickly". I'll experiment and see if I can make it readable now that I know someone is interested though, thank you for the feedback!
Thanks for watching another one! I'm happy to hear that you're looking forward to more, I'll try to get a better content schedule once work dies down 😅
Thank you 🙏 very much! You are my hero! The only question I have: should I activate recommended settings/run cryo utilities app all the time for each newly installed game before I launch it? Or not?
Dude so proud of how far you've come! I love seeing your vids man. Glad I get to know you and be friends with you! You super intelligent illegimate Gabe Newell lovechild you.
Fantastic! I've been waiting for this video for while! It was thanks to initially installing your V1 of Cryo Utilities that made HWL playable at all for me. Thanks for all of your (and your wife's) hard work on this. Any chance you might start working on similar benchmark/setting tweaks for the ROG Ally running Windows 11?
First: thanks for all your work! Second: why this proton version? Third: I will revisit the game over Christmas to make it 100% and maybe replaying it. Would you still recommend for HDR enabled and with newest SteamOS?
For anyone looking at this guide I would keep in mind that once you hit winter in the game the framerate outside will drop. It's not noticeable if you are playing locked at 30fps but the frametime and framerate takes a noticeable hit at 40fps.
Sorry to ask, but if cryoutilities is installed on a sd card but I have to repair the deck and do a factory reset, do I have to reinstall it or will the sd card still work, with my linked shader folders when my deck returns?
There are a few scenarios here: If the /home directory is erased, then it won't work afterwards, the simplest way to fix it is to use CU's cleanup function on the affected games, then run the game again, then run sync again. If the /home directory isn't erased, no action is needed and it'll continue working, even if you reinstall SteamOS. Thanks for watching!
inclusion of the OC results is one of the best changes yet (alongside not reading patrons' names :D) because it shows how worth it a standard OC might be. thanks again for your work!
I just started the game yesterday and after I get a decent amount in (post-patches), I'm really hoping to do a Deck Dive for it as well 😁 Thank you for watching and commenting on this video too!
@@cryobyte33 not sure if it will be relevant for this game, but with Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order on steam deck, it suffers from shader compilation stutters like the sequel. Limiting the GPU to 1000 actually mostly removed the stutters so I suspect that might be the case for the sequel too
This is brilliant! Thanks for all the work put in! Its nice knowing you are squeezing every drop of performance out of the device, due to optimisations across the board. Do you perhaps plan something similar for Starfield? Would be much appreciated :)
@@cryobyte33 that great to hear, big thanks! :) Would you be able to give away the biggest settings to use right away? Im off for a weekend only taking Switch with me and would love to get an hour or two of Skyrimfield in without losing my mind :)
Bro thank you so much for fixing Hogwarts. It works like a dream now. Can you fix the game control. It’s on all the steam deck cover art but doesn’t play well. Like I get motion sickness playing it.
@@cryobyte33 I liked the current length. With all the different break downs including OC. You could probably shave some time off by cutting out some of the little memes, commentary, or speeding up the benchmark video by like 4x instead of 2x. But this format was good. Especially liked the recommended settings. The only thing that would be cool to see would be what settings tanked performance. To like shadow quality, texture quality, etc. but that adds a LOT of testing time.
I have a desktop that can easily handle Hogwart's Legacy. The issue isn't that. Its that we are rewarding companies for lack of optimization with these AAA games. They are using the GPU's to bruit force their way to performance. That means year over year these games are going to get worse and worse on Steam Deck as they cater to running on 4 figure costing GPU's. Which means running low settings is going to be an afterthought at best. And yes this isn't anything new. Everyone remembers the will it run Crysis meme. The issue is at the time those games were the exception, not the norm. Today? Every other title needs high end hardware to get solid performance. I really want Hogwarts Legacy but I'm going to hold off until the next steam deck and a few new patches.
Kyle, thanks for your amazing work on steam deck. I am sorry to bother you here but I am struggling to run Crysis 3 on the deck. It keeps saying need administrator permission and crashing. Have you run this before or had this issue with ea. is there a fix?
I don't own Crysis 3, but based on ProtonDB people are saying it works fine. I'd use CryoUtilities' "Cleanup" feature to delete the shadercache and prefix for Crysis 3 and then try to run it again. I hope it works, thank you for watching!
In regards to the inclusion of oc uv, rather not see much of uv or oc since i dont want to be tempted to play with those lol. Nice that they are separate from the profiles since many of us wont tocuh them. Ill try these later, i have to redownload the game. I wanted to see if returnal is now playable with fsr but it seems the cpu is still not up to it
The only WH game I have is Vermintide, I'm not really into the WH lore/universe, at least not yet because I fear for my wallet 😅 The stream will likely be mostly Breath of the Wild, but I may also play some Stardew Valley or Monster Hunter Rise.
I just learned about the patch and did some very quick testing. It looks like my recommendations hold up, and I don't think I need to revise the video yet, but you might be able to raise a setting or 2 if you have a bit of overhead! Thanks for watching!
These ones are using this machine's limits. I lost the silicon lottery, so they aren't crazy, but I highly recommend watching my undervolting and overclocking video since I give reasonable values and also showcase the process itself. Thanks for watching!
@@cryobyte33 will definitely check out overclocking my deck, in the future it might be worth considering to set the “tuning” preset to the same as the “generally safe” settings in the other video for people who still feel closer to beginners plus you can always put an asterisk saying performance could be improved with higher oc/uv
It does, but you can restore the current BIOS if you back it up, and I'm working on a way to get those settings available in 3.5 as well 🙂 Thanks for watching!
I am bit suprised that you can get close 3h on Stock Battery saver preset on this game. Didn't expect that. Good vid! Buy your wife some cookies for the benches.
Me too! The power usage tends to be really low outside of stress areas, and with the TDP limit we keep things like Hogsmeade playable while not punishing the Deck. Thanks for watching, I got her some Oreos yesterday 😉
Hello @CryoByte33 i wonder if you can take a look and maybe explaine whats going on with mafia de It suck up all power(23watts) from the deck but only goes to 30 fps on low settings Locking tdp and gpu to 10 and 1100 alows you to play on 17watts max and stable 30 fps Strangee
It sounds like the GPU is taking way too much power and not allowing the CPU to work as hard. I don't have the game, but it sounds like what you did is what I'd do too 🙂 Thanks for watching!
I have not tried the cracked version since I want everything on the channel to be above-board, but I'm willing to bet that it's at least 5% more performant without Denuvo. Thanks for watching!
