The military wanted a cartridge in a AR15 that would have the same ballistic as a .308. Hornady developed the 6mm ARC. It stays supersonic past 1000 yards.
You are not comparing apples to apples. You can’t shoot any of the other cartridges you are showing in the AR15 platform, except the Grendel. Of course the other cartridges will perform better with 15 more grains of powder.
You are 100% correct! I have it in a gas gun and a Howa bolt gun. Both 20 inch barrels. It does what it was designed to do. It's pretty good out 1000 yards too!
@@montanamusings I have a gas gun with an 18” Proof SS and I love it. Low recoil and very accurate, it also performs very well at extended distances so I am happy. I would love to try the new Gieselle 6 ARC.
The point is it mimics 308 trajectory, fits in a AR mag, and enough emergency to deer hunt. 0 recoil long range plinker.... its not meant to be compared to 308 case calibers
308 Winchester is a cartridge, .308 is a caliber shared with many other cartridges like 30-30 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 Winchester magnum.
My comment was over your head. The other calibers in the test are not in the same category as 6arc, 6.5 grendel. Standard short action cartridges are obviously more powerful due to much larger case capacity. 6 arc is designed to mimic .308 winchester trajectory, with similar recoil to .223 while giving close to .243 winchester energy all while fitting in an AR mag
6.5G has 90% of the performance of 6ARC and the ammo is half the price. If you are working under 600-800yrds, 123gr 6.5G is going to get it done just as well if not better than 108gr 6ARC and it can still reach out to 1000yrds if you have too. PSA is selling ACC 6.5G with 123gr Hornady bullets for $0.75-$0.85 a round compared to $1.50-$2 for 6ARC rounds, even cheap ball or steel case .308/7.62x51 isnt going to be less than $0.60 a round and you are operating with a much more compact weapons system and carry more ammo for your loadout.
I just ordered a 6mm ARC for this reason: Burns less powder than 6mm Creedmoor, has amazing barrel life in comparison to the 6mm Creedmoor, and while it is going a bit slower, It is stable at long range and did I mention it burns far less powder, making it cheaper to reload. For a paper puncher, it is awesome.
Now do a realistic comparison. AR-15 compatible calibers only. 6ARC vs 5.56/.223, .300BLK, 6.8SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc. Let us know how it fares against its peers. This is like comparing Floyd Mayweather to Muhhamed Ali and asking who would win if they fought.
There are many people saying that the 6mm Arc is just as powerful as a 243 Winchester. 243 shoots the same bullets anywhere from 300 to 600 ft per second faster. But there are people who say it's just as powerful
@@joew5792 hornady says 6mm arc shoots a 110 gr .604 BC at 2575 fps. Hornady also says 110 gr .604 BC out of a 243 win achieves 3000 fps. 425 fps more velocity in a 243 win than 6mm arc from the highest BC 6mm bullet hornady makes. That means that at ALL ranges the 243 win obliterates 6mm arc.
@@joew5792 the 6mm arc and 243 will be equal power but the 243 acheives the same power at a further distance. I did get it. There are many who think and say they are equal in performance.
Great info and as posted by several others the 6 ARC and 6.5 Grendel are the only ones listed that run on an AR15 platform. The others are AR10 platform. It was my understanding that the 6 ARC was to improve the AR15 performance of the 5.56 NATO/223. A great comparison may be the new 22ARC. Thanks and keep up the great content
I have both the Grendel and 6arc in custom rifles. One thing for those of us that shoot a lot, the case life on both of these is more than a 308. Which is a lot. The 6CM has about 1000 round barrel life, if that. That’s benches accuracy, not hunting accuracy. So for those that hunt only, that’s not a big deal. But for those that shoot a lot, it’s a big deal. And also, if you handload, it’s pretty easy to get 2900 fps with a 108 grain bullet in the 6arc. But that’s from a bolt gun, not an AR platform. Apples to oranges I guess……
Several years ago I wanted an AR15 upper with more punch than 223/556 for my wife to deer hunt with and I was just intrigued by an AR platform with a lot more juice. Could be handy to have around for multiple reasons. After a lot of research I decided on Grendel. I’ve been very pleased. My wife took her first deer with it two years ago and the big doe she shot dropped in its tracks. Shot was inside 100 yds and she had practiced for a high shoulder shot and that’s what she made. When the 6arc came out I was interested enough to watch and read about it but it’s not enough to make me switch over. Grendel is more than enough for what we use it for. My hunting is almost all 200 yds or under and we only take shots we know we can make. If the animal doesn’t give us a good shot we let it pass. I’ve been thinking about trying out a 12” pistol Grendel for her as an even handier package than the 16” I have now. As long as it’s still relatively easy to find and load for I’ll probably stick with it.
@@Rickkari7 A friend of mine and his grandson both shot their deer last season with a 6ARC, I think they used factory rounds the previous year but I built them a bolt action on a Howa action, hand lapped the barrel. I believe they are going to try to hand load for that one.
I used to have 12.5"...now I have a 20" 6.5 Grendel...I went the opposite direction. I figured more of a good thing would ve even better and a 20" 6.5G is roughly the same size as a 16.5" PSA AR308, same 25rd mags, lighter ammo, only $0.10-$0.20 a shot more than bottom of the barrel .308/7.62x51 ball or steel case gets AAC with 123gr Hornady bullets from PSA. Under 600-800yrd 6ARC isnt worth paying nearly double for good 108gr ammo compared to 6.5G.
The 6 mm ARC was designed to replace the 5.56 mm by giving it greater range and stopping power, while not adding a lot of load weight and recoil. It definitely succeeded towards that goal. It is a very efficient cartridge and a better idea than the 277 Fury insanity.
I went with a 6mm Arc for a bench rest gun for many reasons. Long barrel life, zero recoil, very accurate 6mm bullets, same amount of powder charge as a 44mag so 1 pound of powder actually lasts awhile.
Like others have said before me the 6 ARC was designed for the AR 15 platform for the D.O.D. To get better terminal performance at ranges the 5.56 could not..
Without a doubt the 6mm ARC is the best cartridge yet in an AR-15. Carry around an AR-10 all day and you'll soon realize the benefit of the 6 ARC in the AR-15.
@@lenzadlberger in the us, the swede is considered an obscure caliber so all the us manufactures load it down for the old milsurps and its really hard to find any and finding some good Norma or Lapua is like finding a unicorn. and its ts all overpriced, 1.5 that of the creed moor, thats why i got set up to reload
Eh, I still like my 6mm ARCs. It was designed at a DOD request to improve AR-15 lethality and ballistics using an 18 inch barrel, and does that job quite nicely. Plus it has a nice safety margin vs 5.56 for nailing coyotes in my local area :)
It’s designed for PRS shooting. Low recoiling cartridge that can be taken to distance fairly easy and can stay in the scope with barely any reticle movement compared to bigger cartridges. Plus it fits in the AR 15 platform
Depends what it's used for. For deer, antelope, and other class 2 animals Grendel, 6arc under 300yds are excellent choices with proper hunting bullets. I'll take the 7lb recoil any day if the week.
Apples to Tomatoes comparison ! It was built for the AR platform and the almost imperceptible recoil leads it for spot on fallow up shots ! Once you try to shoot a coyote at 400 yards with it you will understand how easy it is to shoot !
the 6 arc shouldn't even be compared to the creedmoor and 243, its a completely different class of cartridge, compare it to other micro action cartridges
All the 6 arc factory ammo is loaded to the lower pressure for the weak AR bolt face. If you handload a 6 arc in a bolt action is pretty decent. Felt recoil is a good bit less than 243 for some reason when shooting same weight bullets in identical rifles. Something that no one ever talks about is in real life comparing 6 arc to 243 bolt action velocities in short barrel and lightweight varmint bullets the 6 arc closes the gap between it and the 243 quite a bit. I think it’s because the 6 arc doesn’t lose as much velocity per inch or barrel as a 243 does. In 18” barrels it’s usually extremely close as in under 100 fps and less felt recoil. I like em both and when 6 arc first came out I thought that’s dumb but since shooting 6 arc I very rarely shoot 243s anymore
I shoot 6mm arc and get .248 size groups out of an ar. it cost me 92 cents a round its a great coyote round. It cost me $800 to build a rifle scope and all. Extremely cheap and easy to reload. Not saying it gets amazing energy but there is a dead coyote at 942 yards on my charts.
To compare a short action group of cartridges to an AR platform cartridge is rather unfair. The Grendel is the only one in the same category. To make it fair, drop the short actions and add AR cartridges like 6.8 SPC, 224 Valkyrie, & 300 Blackout. Any larger in diameter would be relatively useless. There are some wildcats out there that could also make it interesting, but it would be better to stick with production ammo only. If you are going to go short action, why not go 257 Wby or 6.5 PRC, they would both drop less than any of the others, with the 257 beating the best by 4 inches. The 6.5 PRC would easily beat the best in energy. Dial in is a worthless comparison. If you know your dope, you know where you need to dial. Home much you have to dial is mostly immaterial. Please try again with cartridges in the 2.260" OAL range to make it a fair test. If you do, the 6mm ARC is best in drop, Best in energy @ 500yd (Grendel just a hair under), and best in Come Up (again, just beating the Grendel). Oh, the ARC is also best at bucking the wind. So, what's the best cartridge in the AR Platform for medium range? The king is currently the 6mm ARC - Hands down. Do better.
I think the main purpose of the 6 ARC is mostly for the PRS gas gun division. It’s accurate and low recoil. Most cartridges compared here would require the much heavier and more expensive AR10. The only thing this video really proves is 15 gr more powder goes faster. If you compare it to other cartridges that a fit into a standard ar15 it does well. Loaded with the 80 gr cx bullet in an 18 inch barrel it hits 2850 -2900fps and is plenty on coyote and deer.
6PPC is like a 100 to 200 yard benchrest cartridge. You can maybe stretch to 300 yards, but I think most benchrest shooters go to 6mm Norma BR for 300 yard group shooting.
The purpose of this cartridge is to sell more ammunition. If everyone keeps thinking that they need the latest and greatest cartridge, rifle, or pickup truck, they will part with their money. Dad's old .308 is still getting the job done. Thanks for putting the facts on the screen for us to see. Cheers!
Its a niche cartridge, it has a purpose. Like you stated what was it designed for? EX: 223 Remington When people say it was designed by the military I cant help but interrupt them and say they're wrong. 223 Remington was a varmint round hijacked by the military and redesigned into the 5.56 Nato. 30-06 Springfield was a purposely built military round, but ballistically is awesome for hunting and the proof is in the 118 years that its been used. I don't believe a caliber is bad or good. They're purpose built someone somewhere was looking for something as a in-between, it's just figuring out the in-between what and then you get a clearer picture. To your point rabbit holes. Everyone has their own solutions for their own problems or kicks. this is why when it comes to cartridges i compare bullet grain weights over pure cartridge to cartridge. Its all apples and oranges, and in the case of magnums, watermelons.
The only way I'd go 6mm arc is in a bolt gun... I can reload them puppies HOT... 6x45 is a sleeper an its the cheapest! 6-6.8spc is fast! An amazing in short barrels... 6max seems promising... The 6mm maximum is on my list 400 legend necked down to 6mm... simalar to the 6-6.8spc but slightly more capacity! Should be pushing a 55gr nosler over 3500fps easy from a 16" barrel . .. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I think you should have compared the 6mm ARC to the .223/5.56, .224 Valkyrie, 7.62x39, and the 6.5 Grendel. They all fit in the AR 15 platform, or so called mini action. Where as the Creedmores and the .243, and what not all need a short action like an AR 10. The short action allows for a longer OAL, therefore more powder capacity and better performance in general. The 6mm ARC compares very favorably to the other mini action cartridges, as it was intended.
I appreciate the comparisons. I want a 6mm ARC because I like the 7.62x39. The 6mm ARC. Seems to be a massive improvement over the 7.62x39 out of a mini action. So modernizing a compact, low recoil, round for medium range. I only shoot 200-300 yards at the farthest. So the appeal is strong to change to 6mm ARC
The only true comparison out of those is the 6mm arc vs the 6.5 Grendel. The other rounds are made based off of the .308 round and fire through the AR-10 platform. The 6.5 Grendel and 6mm ARC are based off the .220 Russian and fire out of the AR-15 platform.
Look, I know your from Tennessee but come on! 6arc, 6.5 Grendel, 6x45, 25-45 Sharps, 300 blk and others were all designed to in some way improve on the AR15 in 5.56. Some do and some not so much. If your going to run a bolt gun then by all means stay with 243 or 6 creed. Don't compare the 25-45 Sharps to the 25-06, they are not in the same class. Your comparing bantam weight fighters to heavy weights. You can do the heavy weights in the AR10 class rifle but not in the much lighter AR15 platform. The whole purpose of these rounds in the AR15 platform is for medium to short range deer and hog weapons. 300 yards max in a light weight, low recoil, modular system. And for hogs the high round count is a plus. This video made absolutely no sense!
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The 6mmARC was invented because a certain SMU wanted something ballistically superior to the 5.56 round. It does that in spades. It was never intended to rival 6mm Creedmoor, or any other AR-10 style cartridges. If you want a fair comparison, compare it against other AR-15 compatible ammunition such as 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 5.56, etc.
A lot of people upset in the comments. If you love the 6mm ARC, that's great. Keep enjoying it! But I'm pretty confident that Who_tee_who realizes it's on an ar15 length action. It's not an apples to apples comparison, but a fruit comparison. Bolt guns are avaliable in 6mm ARC, 5.56, and 6.5 Grendel. And AR(10)s are avaliable in 6.5 creedmoor, .308, .243 etc. Why limit yourself to a couple of small cartridges unless you plan on carrying a full kit of ammo. Which is what smaller cartridges were designed for.
The biggest mistake you are making with your cartridge comparison is the 6 mm ARC & 6.5 Grendel were designed to have a cartridge with low recoil,can easily kill deer sized animals at ranges farther than most hunters can shoot,fits & functions in the AR-15 semi-auto platform rifle with a barrel & bolt swap! Those numbers also change a fair amount if you load the 6.5 Grendel with a 100gr.bullet.All the other cartridges listed will only fit in the AR-10 (much larger & heavier) rifle platform. This is why the 6.5 Grendel has been growing in popularity year after year! I’m only guessing here but that is probably why Hornady has also made the 6mm ARC.
I bought a Seekings Precision 6mm arc in the AR15 platform. It has a 22 inch barrel. I'm also trying to learn more about this caliber. I look forward to seeing more videos. I live in McMinnville so I'm just up the road from ya. God bless you and yours and God bless America 🇺🇸
We don't shoot the 6 ARC for flat shooting, we shoot it for reduced recoil! If you shoot competition, and you empty more than 300 brass per range day, you will understand why we like the reduced recoil. I found hunting to be more fun with a reduced recoil, as the noise is less, and you don't feel deaf for a few days. If you are all about flat shooting cartridges, you just told us your age, maturity level, and lack of purpose! If your ego is that off, go back to the 300 Win Mag. The Grendel and 6 ARC are much better with lighter weight bullets! You also need to look at the changes in velocity for BBL length, from 12" to 22". The 95gr V-Max is great in the Grendel, and the 75gr V-Max in the 6ARC is a good balance. Those heavy bullets are for long range, which means nothing in our 100 yards or less hunting arena.
I would say that its amazing that the 6 arc perform so well with 15 grains less powder then the 243 and 6mm rem. So 2 243 round and you get 3 6 arc cartridges. And 6 arc fits ar15 platform and for the cartidge and the velocity its pretty impressive and vert efficient. And not to mention not near as much recoil as the 6 creed 6 rem or 243 and a deer cartridge out to 350 400. I say its awesome
6mm ARC is fairly misunderstood, It was built with a specific purpose in mind, It was engineered at the request of the military to address a specific issue they were having in hostile engagements, after a decade of the military being over in the Middle East, the bad guys had become very familiar with the effective range of the .556, so the bad guys were regularly setting up roughly around 500 meters, and harassing US troops with pot shots. It was a significant and common enough issue that US soldiers started opting for carrying more 7.62s within their units, for the better terminal ballistics at the longer ranges, but the guns were heavier, and the ammo was heavier, so less ammo was carried versus 556, So inversely it started creating issues in urban environments for clearing streets and buildings with the soldiers lugging around 7.62 rifles. So some branch of the military reached out to Hornady, and asked them for an AR15 caliber recommendation that extended its terminal ballistics range beyond that of 556, Hornady immediately said no problem, that would be the 6.5 Grendal, The Military said thanks, and hung up, 2-3 months went by Hornady receives another call from this same branch of the military, and they said, we've looked at the 6.5 Grendal, and we notice the bullets aren't of the more modern designed high BC bullets, how much of an improvement could we see in the terminal ballistics range with a higher BC bullet? Hornady said, "Good question, we don't know the answer to that, but we will get our engineers on it right away." Military said, "Great, while you are at it, use the 7.62 as a benchmark." Thus the 6mm ARC was born, not to replace the 556, but more so to replace the 7.62 caliber or maybe more specifically the rifle in the field. So yeah, it's not going to be competitive with a lot of other 6mm's out there because it had to fit in the AR platform.
I’ve been shooting the .260 Remington for over 30 years in a Savage model 11 , a great combo that doesn’t take a back seat to any of those newer cartridges!
The Grendel will have more energy than the ARC at the muzzle if shot from the same length barrel . The arc will have a flatter trajectory . In the ar15 platform , Grendel for hunting , arc for target shooting at longer ranges . I get the same velocity you’re getting in the Grendel out of my 20 inch ar15 , so I’m sure a 24 inch (which is what you’re basing your arc data on ) will add some more zip. My 16 inch arc gets the same speed out of the 16 inch shooting 108 gr bullets as the 20 inch Grendel with 123 . Now comparing those 2 to calibers that cannot be shot out of ar15s is not entirely fair , but the fact that they are even in the conversation is a testament to how great these 2 little rounds are
Thank you for including the 243 and 6Rem for comparison. I have a 6Rem so it is really cool to see just how impressive the 6CM is with less powder. Have a 6BR too that one day I want to chrono my loads to see how it compares.
I have been a 308 AK guy since going to the 308 Galil (original version) when the HK91 failed on me with 2x extractor spring failures in a row. A friend got me into the AR world with the promises of power of the 6.5 Grendel, as AR to me is 556, and it leaves far too much to be desired. At least the 6.5 and the 6ARC can do more damage than the 556 with 4-6" less barrel. But yes, alas, when compared to the 50 Megaton Nuclear warhead, well, it just does not have the same knockdown power at 12500 miles. The 6.5G Rifle gave way to the 300Blk in a 10.5", and while there I figured one day I would build a 6ARC pistol 12.5". Making 900m shots common in a yet smaller package was too tempting, and of course the 300 was never going to be that. The ARC build over all has been successful. Having not fired at 100m for 15 years, I was able to pull off 1" groups with the 6ARC (Instructor Critic was able to do same with 6.5G both on a 14x Scope). The real illness came with the 10.5" 6.5G giving me 1" at 100m with a 2MOA Red Dot. The Cert Inst, had every chance to rag on my builds and performance at every turn. He could only call me Bougie with Guccified set ups. I believe that those getting into shooting at this time are going to be very bored. It is almost like we are in Arlen Specter's Magic Bullet land. As if we are in some kind of Gaming Simulation.
I think one of the arguments in favor of 6 ARC, at least for me, is reloading. Where I’m at, it’s easy enough to find powders that will work for the ARC as well as 6 mm projectiles, brass is brass once you have it. The central problem is primers. Magnum primers are unobtainium. Large rifle primers can be found, but it seems you have to make a sacrifice to whatever deity you believe in to find them. Small rifle primers though, those are pretty easy to come by. This makes a 6 ARC appealing as an option for deer within reasonable ranges, and due to it’s lower powder needs, it’s slightly more cost effective to work with when compared to some of the other options out there.
Great research brother! I love the cartridge talks. There is a HUGE element that us as mostly Deer hunters to look at... ALL of these cartridges produced over 1000ft/lbs of energy to 400 yards! Ive hunted many big whitetails in Michigan with my 20 inch ar 6.5 Grendel its an outstanding deer cartridge to 400 yards. It makes for quick follow ups for pigs and coyotes too. Ive been reloading grendel from the beginning with 123sst. So from your research to 400 the 6 looks about the same. Know your drop and drift and let them fly boys! Them little dudes kill 😉
I’m going to buy a 6mm ARC from CMMG at some point. I already have the 6.5 Grendel and like it. I purchased the 6.5 Grendel for longer distances shooting out of the AR-15 platform but that was before the 6mm ARC came out. Otherwise I would have bought the 6mm ARC and not the 6.5 Grendel. But that’s life live and learn,It is what it is.
From what I understand the bolt actions chambered in 6mm arc can handle much hotter rounds. The semi auto cartridges are limited pressure. That’s what I’ve read. Anyway I’ve been a fan of .243 win for decades. Now several manufacturers are making rifles with tighter twists for heavier bullets. Wouldn’t mind having the light weight weatherby in .243.
It's amazing to see that at what I would call "normal" hunting range, 300 yards, all rounds are within 2" of each other. They are even much closer at 200.
The 6mm ARC is actually an awesome round. With the right platform it’s even better. It’s good in an AR platform, it’s even better in a bolt gun loaded with hand loads that are loaded hotter. I personally have a 16.5” 6mm arc in a zermatt action and it’s freakin awesome. I don’t shoot it past 1000, but that’s why I built it, to be a 1000 and in gun.
More potential velocity & energy in other cartridges is not a reason to bypass the ARC, unless that is your only criteria. The ARC looks to have sufficient power to use on whitetail to 400 yards. Being that it can fit in smaller platforms - AR 15, Howa Mini, or CZ Mini which gives it a weight and length advantage over the others. Looking forward to your sight-in and group testing with that CMMG
A guy just shot a factory stocked howa 6 arc for 1000 yards down in texas.(Texas plinking). I was impressed but The round has never appealed to me for any thing.
Greatly appreciate you taking the time to share all the information on all but every cartridge. 👍 I have heard Hornady talk about the shortcomings of 6ARC while promoting 22ARC. I’m waiting for the real world information to come out on the 22ARC.
So the purpose of the 6mm ARC was to fulfill the needs of a DoD contract for a DMR that could fit on an AR15 frame and be a gap filler between 556 and 308. The biproduct of 6mm ARC, once it hit the civilian market, was that for folks like me that can't hunt deer with 223 in my state, I now have a hunting legal cartridge in an AR15 platform. A more accurate comparison for 6mm ARC would be to put it against 556 and 308 and exclude all of the other calibers. From my understanding, it has a better BC and performance at and past 1000 yards than 308 because 308 goes transonic somewhere between 800 and 900 yards depending on the load. Also, the 6mm ARC was originally designed to used with an 18" barrel. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work, Who-Tee!
I'm just 30-06 guys, just deer hunting you can load it up or down. In north Alabama you get a shot at 100 plus in a fields, in the woods 30 to 50 yards
A fair comparison would be 6 ARC with any other caliber available in the AR 15 platform, which is America's most popular gun. For me it comes out on top. From deer to hogs to targets it performs quite well. Very low recoil and longer barrel life too. I already have a higher powered rifle in bolt action this is not that.
Half of these cartridges really have no reason to exist other than to drive up ammo prices and sell guns in a new caliber. Then the company rates them out of a 24 inch barrel to hype up their performance numbers. A 243 or 6mm Rem does just about advertised velocity from a 20 to 22 inch barrel and have been doing it since the 1950s.
I love your video reviews of different rifles and ammo etc. because it shows just a normal good bloke who has a normal level of hunting and shooting experience trying gear and explaining the results in simple terms. Having said that, I don't think wading into the world of ballistics and catridge design, and how a built for purpose cartridge like the 6mm ARC performs should be done at such a basic level that does not consider the application and performance parameters the cartridge is designed to meet. You can easily flip the argument in the 6mm ARC's favour if you are framing the question/comparison regarding the specific application and requirements. Of course if you just want a hunting or target cartridge that is offered in a bolt gun or semi auto that has a combination of moderate recoil and great ballistics performance then the 6mm Creedmoor is a great option.....but if you want a 1000 yds plus capable cartridge in an AR platform that stays supersonic at 1000yds, has low recoil and adequate killing power then the 6mm Creedmoor isn't an option unfortunately. It should be noted that the 6mm ARC has almost an identical ballistic performance in terms of trajectory to the 6.5 Creedmoor which is arguably one of the most popular target / hunting cartridges of all time. The fact that this cartridge was designed with the pressure limitations and 2.260 COL of an AR platform and can hold its own with both the 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor, especially once you get past 1000 yds is pretty incredible. Not to mention its advantages over the .223 /5.56 that it was designed to be an alternative for. One last point is that if you are a handloader with a bolt gun you can increase the 53,000 pressure limit for AR platforms to I believe 62,000 which will no doubt get your ballistics a bit closer to the Creedmoor. Still a great video mate, especially if you are just considering a target or hunting calibre that has great performances and mild recoil. 👍
when you have finished this it would be nice to see the same comparison in bullet slingers out of the ar15 platform. big difference in packing an ar10 platform in the woods vs the smaller lighter ar15. lik 223/556, 6 arc, 22 arc, 204 ruger, 6.8spc, 6.5 grendel
The biggest reason for 6 arc is its the best compromise between using some high bc bullets and low recoil. As a man who appreciates value and budget kit like yourself, i think you will appreciate its efficiency after some shooting. Go for the epl4 4-16
6mm ARC is awesome. It's not going to stand up against full size rifle cartridges. The point is getting the maximum performance from an Ar15 size cartridge.
The main advantage and reason 6mm arc was created was because it can be used in a much more handy and lightweight platform than what 6.5 Creedmoor can be. I believe it was developed at the request of the DOD(or some other government agency) because they tried using 6.5 Creedmoor ar10s and found that they were too big and heavy for extended use.
Check the muzzle velocity of 243 win and 6 arc both out of a 16 inch barrel with 100 grain bullets. The velocity is almost identical, that's what's so special about 6 arc. In a 16 inch barrel, it's basically a 243 win. Now of course 243 win has more powder, but you need a longer barrel to take advantage of that extra powder, so at longer barrels 243 win pulls ahead, but in shorter barrels 6 arc has the same speeds with the same bullets out of a shorter/handier/lighter weapon.
Great info. I'm a big 6.5 Grendel fan and have hunted with one for 5 years. If you do a like to like in bullet weights 6MM ARC vs 6.5 Gendel. The difference is very little. A good comparison can be seen at Dave Strohmeyer - Saddle Up Shootin' page. He shoots both in 24" AR 15 platforms. I used the 123 grains for most of my hunting. Have recently changed over to 100 grains.
I have to agree with many of the comments in the fact that your comparison is not quite fair….apples vs oranges. AR15 vs AR10 length cartridges. Why both of my 6ARCs shine, is due to the fact they are bolt actions. You hit on that, how be it, I feel that your comparison needs to limited to AR15 length cartridges. Think of it like 308 vs 30-06. Both are great cartridges. Texas Plinking has 2 6ARCs featured in his videos and they performed fantastic at 1000yds. Thank you for the great videos and keep them coming!!!
I truly appreciate all the work you put into these charts as they are amazing base line to start with... 1 thing I thought about while watching is there are so many reason's someone would pick any 1 of these over another. Personally I think man I already own bla bla bla I don't have to go out and repurchase everything for a new cartridge. Where someone that as the extra $ will purchase all the new stuff just because they can. Anyway so many different reasons Thanks for the video look forward to watching ya shoot some stuff
There's a 6mm max cartridge just developed by SOLGW that doesn't quite compare to the 6mm ARC but it's definitely interesting in that it uses the same bolt as 5.56 (it's a bottleneck 350 legend case) only needs a barrel change and uses everything from 55-103grain in the AR platform and it'll be interesting to see how it performs when they start pressing the buuulots and making barrels for it more common.
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