6mm Creedmoor Vs 6.5 Creedmoor. 6mm Creedmoor Book Data vs 6.5 Creedmoor Range Data

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I need to evaluate my 6.5 Creedmoor using light for caliber bullets to verify Velocity, SD's ES's and Accuracy at the range first. then evaluate this data from my rifle against the 6 mm Creedmoor listed data in the Hornady Manual, to decide whether or not to buy the 6mm Creedmoor @ $$$$
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@cw2a 2 года назад

Mornin Dave! I have my first 105 Speer ladders loaded with the 6mm Rem @ 3.025 with re22.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Mornin' CW. Yes, That 6-Rem and the works that you did in your videos on Rumble is great indeed.

@edcombs7557 2 года назад

Great video Dave and great content,keep them coming I've often wondered about the is type of comparison between 2 different calibers and same weight bullet

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks Ed for your kind words and for watching.

@Rickkari7 2 года назад

Great videos. So much info. Great shooting.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks for your kind words and for watching.

@clintonlayne9253 2 года назад

Great Shooting Dave! I like you Bayonet Chronograph.Have a Great Weekend .

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

They work for me too. Have a great weekend also.

@relay93 2 года назад

Your part of the country is experiencing as much wind as the part of the country I live. As always we appreciate you sharing the information and good shootin!!

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks, I can't pick and choose the conditions for hunting either, We just adjust and adapt. I have never found suitable game to hunt indoors... LOL.

@BasedU.S.parriot1776 4 месяца назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 What kind of powder did you use

@bobcatforever3485 2 года назад

Dave. Good video. Really great shooting. Thanks for sharing and take care.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks Bobcat. Look forward to your next video.

@bobcatforever3485 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Thanks, I wish I could put groups together like you are doing!

@SDMacMan 2 года назад

I think the ghost of Winchester heard what you said about 760 not being an accurate powder and made you eat your words. haha. Nice shoot'n. 👍

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

You are right! HaHa!

@leopoldogonzalez8950 2 года назад

Great video, but a good comparison IMO would actually be to match the ballistic coefficients of each cartridge. Say a BC of .600 on the 6.5 and a BC of .600 on the 6mm creed. Best speed, drop, drift, energy, Time of flight.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

6.5 Creedmoor with the lower grain weight bullets to compare was an adequate comparison vs the Hornady Ballistic data for their 6mm 108 grain. Top grain weight for the 6mm is 115 + or - grain (Berger). The next step up on bullets I own for the 6.5 is 120 grain and those ballistic numbers definitely give the advantage to the 6mm 115 top grain weight Berger. As stated at the end of the video neither bullet should be used for "Hunting" medium game beyond 500 yards, so BC is not relevant. Thanks for watching and for your comment for me to re clarify.

@TexasLeverGunner 18 дней назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Most people shooting these hot rod 6mm's aren't hunting with them, so BC definitely matters.

@terrydodson7637 2 года назад

Good comparison video

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks for your comment and for watching.

@willo7734 Год назад

Definitely an interesting idea to compare these two with the same bullet weight. I suspect that the main time that the 6mm would pull ahead is at long range, above 5-600 yards or so. I’m guessing that with the longer 6mm bullet compared to the 6.5 the shape (and therefore BC) become more of a factor. I’d like to test this myself whenever I can get to a very long range. Cool idea for a video.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Год назад

Thanks for your comment here and for watching.

@PracticalAccuracy 2 года назад

Nice shooting and good video. 👍 up here and on the like button.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks Andy. Looking forward to your next video.

@PracticalAccuracy 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I have it set for tonight at 6pm. A little different than i normally make, but I hope it's interesting .

@stevenlewis6781 2 года назад

Good comparison and great shooting. The Begara rifles are amazing for the price. Have to agree that unless your shooting steel at over 700 yards regularly your not gaining much. These are such efficient little cartridges.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks for your comment and for watching. P.S. I still may buy a 6mm Creedmoor because of the newer long and lean high BC bullets. Because my .243 maxes out at 100 grain bullets.

@fl_protection 7 месяцев назад

Recoil is less on a 6mm creedmore.

@Pew_pewchronicles 7 месяцев назад

Winchester 760 it’s been a fantastic powder in my 6.5 Creedmoor with 120 grain bullets I can achieve 30 10 ft./s and the accuracy is 3.7 inch groups at 600 yards

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 7 месяцев назад

That is great shooting at 600 yards. Thanks for watching and for your comment here.

@gordonrizzuti6048 Год назад

Thanks for the video, there is always something to glean from others. Just like the surprise finding the 6.5mm 108 grain load that gouped well a nd had better than expected velocity - we don't know what the 6mm CR would have done except for Hornaday data. IMO it seemed your objective was trying to see if the 6.5 CR light for caliber bullet could approach 6mm CR heavier for caliber bullet velocity a d group. That in itself is a bit unfair comparison, however interesting to experiment and confess ive wondered the same thing. Nonetheless, like many have said the BC isn't a factor until 500Y or so, so a real balistics comparison would need to be conducted at long yardage to see if the both calibers and rifles held groups together at yardage without surprises. With that crosswind flapping your hat i can see that would be a tough at long yardage. Thanks for demonstrating the velocity and group potential of the 108grain load in the 6.5CR.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Год назад

Glad you got the intensions of my demonstration. Really though, it is to talk myself out of buying and all the load equipment for the 6mm Creedmoor, because I already own .243 Win. and 6mm ARC. that are shown in previous videos. Thanks for your comment and for watching.

@rustynut1967 2 года назад

BC, ES and SD aren't hardly a factor under 400 yards (within reason). This was a good example of that. Your speed didn't hardly change between 44.5 and 45.5. For long range that's the charge area (44.5) I would experiment with and seating depth. Good shootin and video! 👍👍

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks Rusty. I hope other folks that watch my videos will read your comments for the truth. Frankly I am frustrated with all the BC and Wind comments. The only thing that matters to a hunter is confidence in their rifle and ammo and whether to take the shot or just as important to not take the shot.

@1971boss 2 года назад

Mr Dave. Thank you for your video. I have learned from you and other RU-vidrs. Quick questions on your 6.5 grendel, what would be an ideal barrel length for long distance and precision? 20 or 24? I have a savage 6.5 creedmoor 22". I have been about to hit plate @ 770yds. What are 3 good inexpensive scopes to use for long distance I your opinion?

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

20 inch is more agile for hunting. 24 inch rings out the best velocity, so it's a toss up. Scopes are too specific to your shooting preference and scopes are specialized for hunting or target shooting. You need to do allot of research for your eyes and or needs. All of the name brand companies and some Chinese made scopes are made at different prize points to fit your wallet. Best of luck to you on your research.

@1971boss 2 года назад

Thank you sir. Yes. I have done a lot of research and continue to do so. I am also interested in reloading too. But I do not want to go down that rabbit hole until I have a house so I can have a dedicated spot to do all that calculations. Thank you so much again for your videos.

@arreloader8342 2 года назад

That is good info to know I have the BMP 6.5 creedmoor myself never shot anything that light in it tho and I also have AR10 style rilfe in 6.5 creedmoor seems like 6mm creedmoor is really only good for the competition world for spotting shots and recoil but most of them are moving towards the 6 arc for that it seems x-ring has a very good video comparing the 6.5 creedmoor, 6mm creedmoor, and 6mm arc for that purpose

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

This video was only to "compare data of similar weight bullets." The two calibers do not equate and are very different, the .243 and .264 calibers are both great. I already own a .243 Win. and a 6mm ARC and they're demonstrated in my playlists. This comparison is to justify (to myself) whether or not to buy a 6mm Creedmoor HaHa! Thanks for watching and for your comment.

@arreloader8342 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 yeah that's what I was saying basically is that they do compare better than I thought, I had not looked into it much and that's why I thought your data was good to know (unless your wanting it for competition) then the light bullets are almost as good in 6.5 creedmoor and I don't shoot competition myself so that data was good to know cause I had considered 6mm creedmoor myself but with what your data shows I don't think I'll worry anymore about it cause I have a .243 bolt gun and a .243 AR10 so there's really no need for the 6mm creedmoor so thanks for the information is was a good video 👍

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

@@arreloader8342 It seems you are well stocked. How do you like your AR-10 chambered for the - 243 Win.?

@arreloader8342 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 i like it tho it definitely seems to have alot more pressure than the .308 ar10 or 6.5 creedmoor which I have all 3 and it's seems the smaller the bore gets the more the pressure it has so I had to get a adjustable gas block which was expected and then I had to get the downsized firing pin Channel bolt which I did but it still seemed to be to much for the primer and brass so I got the toolcraft bcg with the dual ejection and the ejectors are a lil bit smaller on that bolt and that fixed the ejector smear and primer crater and blown primer then I put a 6.8 ounce buffer in it and it now does good it took alot of time effort and money tho to get it where it is today but now it shoots good I've got a 1/8 twist so it stabilizes the heavy projectiles good ive even got it to shoot the 115gr nosler RDF bullets good at 100 yards don't have any long range places to really shoot but I like it shoots good alot less recoil than the .308 rilfe

@jb-dc1tt 2 года назад

Nice groups! Was the recoil lighter with those smaller bullet weights? One of the reasons for going to a 6creed is less recoil which helps you see what you hit and re engage if need be.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Recoil mitigated by the muzzle brake on my rifle, so it is hard for me to judge. I already have the 6 ARC and 243 win(s). I did the comparison to talk myself out of buying a 6-Creedmoor and all the necessary reloading components. But we shall see how well and if that works, HaHa!

@jb-dc1tt 2 года назад

I get it but what does a 6creed do that a 243 can’t? I’d have a firearm in every caliber if I could afford it 😂

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

@@jb-dc1tt 6 ARC has less velocity, but uses the same longer higher BC bullets that are newer to the market as the 6 Creedmoor. The 243 win with the traditional 1-10 twist rate barrel is suitable for the 100 grain and lighter bullets. The 6 Creedmoor is highly touted by the PRS and long range folks. For me personally, as a hunter, the 25-06 rem with 100 grain to 120 grain bullet fills the nitch between 243 and 264 calibers very well indeed. My personal opinion only not withstanding.

@loupuleff571 2 года назад

last group was real good ! i'm kinda surprised you don't have a more stable rest do you feel it is stable ? looks like it wobbles a bit ?

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Thanks Lou. Yes it is a portable stand, good for quick set up for these type of videos and the various places I shoot at. Thanks for watching.

@luvtahandload7692 2 года назад

I have that same bench, but without the backrest. It is incredibly sturdy! The red handle you see under the top is for a lever you can pull to tighten things up. It works!

@dalepogue5799 2 года назад

You have a great channel but it’s Hornady not Hornaday 🇺🇸

@relay93 2 года назад

How did the primers compare with the different loads?

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

It has been my experience that Winchester primers are softer and therefore more prone to deform even under normal pressures. But I have never had a Winchester primer fail and they provide a little better consistent ignition and slightly higher velocities. But that is just my limited experience and opinion.

@user-qe1ex4kp2g Год назад

If your anything like me you will end up just getting a 6 just because ! Now it's been 10 months did you end up buying one anyway?

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Год назад

No not yet...I have a .243 win and 6-ARC they make for great varmint shooting. For Varmint hunting I do not need bullets over 100gns (Where the 6 Creed really shines)... I also have a stockpile of reloading supplies for the 243 and ARC.

@user-qe1ex4kp2g Год назад

@Dave Strohmeyer - Saddle Up Shootin' you seem to always go with longer barrels, I was curious if you have any shorter barrels on your ar's ? What are they and why ? Obviously your always going for peek performance. Love the channel !

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Год назад

@@user-qe1ex4kp2g I have both a 5.56 and a 6.5 Grendel with 20 inch barrels. These rifles are used primarily as 'truck rifles' as they are easier to deploy when getting in and out of the truck for a quick shot.

@TommyboyGTP 10 месяцев назад

Have you compared 243 to 6mm Creedmoor?

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 10 месяцев назад

No, But maybe see my 243 win playlist to see why. Thanks for your question.

@TommyboyGTP 10 месяцев назад

Will do! @@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009

@loupuleff571 2 года назад

you tube approved are you kiddn ?

@cw2a 2 года назад

It seems odd strange to you(us) because you likely have a normal fully functional brain. 🇺🇸 Dave goes thru that just because of the Woke uT auditors who may be watching.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

No I am not. Location while shooting a firearm is a main qualifier or disqualifier according to RU-vid firearm content policies.

@andy347495 2 года назад

Why would you not compare wind drift? From 300 yards to 500 yards is where you are really going to see it effect the bullet. There is big difference in BC's of the 107 6.5mm bullet and the 107 6mm bullet. This seems like it is a inconclusive and insufficient test.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

Wind deflection is too much of a variable. Speed is measurable by my Magnetospeed . Bullet weight can be verified. BC can not be verified at least by me as I do not own the laboratory tools. Plus I did not show an actual 6mm Creedmoor being fired, only chart comparison. Thanks for your input here. (I still may buy a 6mm Creedmoor anyway.)

@andy347495 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 you say BC can't be verified and is the reason you're not using it to compare wind drift, yet you used it for your drop and to compare a rifle you didn't shoot. It sounds like a big contradiction there. I think you need to think about what you're going to say and process a little more before you speak.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 года назад

@@andy347495 Thanks for your opinion.

@jb-dc1tt 2 года назад

You can try to validate bc at distance but in reality it’s a educated guess. I appreciated this video and the time and effort this man put into this video for “OUR” entertainment.

@rustynut1967 2 года назад

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 It would be a difference of about an inch with a10mph full value at 600 yards. Not enough difference that I would switch.