6th Gen NGAD Squadron vs Two 4th/5th Gen Russian Fighter Air Wings (WarGames 177) | DCS 

NGAD Battles: NGAD Squadron vs F-22 & F-35 Air Wing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U8W90rb4rQs.html NGAD Squadron vs 2 x Russian Air Wings: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LdV-zF43iFA.html NGAD Squadron vs China Air Wing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bfMYuWFrPoM.html NGAD Squadron vs F-22 Squadron: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bzdnlXIjP7w.html

I've started welcoming people to my home with "Hello valued viewers", and while none of them really understand, it amuses me and that's all that matters in the end.

Technically that is fa-xx. NGAD is next generation air dominance both the USN and ASAF have independent programs both called NGAD f-x is USAF FA-XX is USN

If you want to make an interesting test fight for the NGAD, I recommend seeing how they perform defending an attack. So far all your videos have had the NGAD on offense, if they had to defend a naval base or battle group from an attack it mitigates their ability to dictate the engagement. Best thing I can think of to keep NGAD from just always having a shooting gallery.

What's astounding about these NGAD sims is how outstanding these results are utilizing a comparatively half-assed version of what the actual platform is supposed to be like in real life. Even with the AI being silly at times, the moments it does work, the AI makes an absolute killing. Terrifying stuff really, but when you realize that this thing is designed to counter what our adversaries are expected to bring to the field in the coming decades, I suppose it shouldn't be all that surprising.

If you removed the sidewinders from the NGAD, could you fit 4 more Peregrine missiles in it? They have both infrared and radar tracking built in. While they will not go the longer ranges of AIM missiles, they reach well beyond the stealth's detection range. In addition, they are supposed to be a lot cheaper and easy to manufacture. The more I read about them, the more impressive they seem. A possible game changer with the rise in drones. I envision a B-21 complete with Peregrine missiles used as drone swarm defense.

Still in the setup and deployment of forces portion, but had to chuckle heartily that poor Strider really got the "FU" with the longest distance to zone XD

2030 Russia will probably have J-20! 😂😂

I would imagine, the US is planning on countering it's own technology in the future. When the the US releases the ngad it'll already well along the path of its nngad. Why? It knows that even the ngad will experiences losses which will get captured and then accelerate the baddies technology however the US will already have a well developed answer in the nngad keeping it one step ahead at all times by knowing where the baddies technology comes from (because they can't do this themselves).

So much work on these models!

Excellent breakdown! GS

It is interesting how the concept of a large long range high speed missile truck,which was the doctrine of the 1950s and 1960s but was abandoned for the more multi-role platforms is now finding it’s place with improved sensors, data links and stealth.

Looks great on my phone, thanks!

Can you make the F-35 use a penagrine missile please?

NGAD is optimized for all signatures: RCS/Visual/Heat etc… it’s better than any 5th Gen you can assume. Great job guys!

I'm a viewington Wuington 😊

considering the way it's going for them right now I highly doubt they'll have any su 57s before long. Definitely won't be able to afford any new ones lmao

Now if we can do a Taiwan invasion scenario again but featuring NGAD

For realism, Russian GBAD should be targeting Russian assets....

Your friendly f22 pilot here with another input; 1. Coordinated attack with 5th/6th Gen… assign a lead to keep the formation Line Abreast, 0.9 IMN and turning hot/cold view “hot left/right” calls… this helps not have multiples 10 nm in front and/or 10nm behind which means shot range and coordinated intercept is all messed up. Simultaneity (it’s real word I think) is critical even against AI. 2. Lead: always give a little power to wingman. You should rarely be in Mil or full AB…. Technique: admin phase post takeoff select 90% Mil to allow extra power for you wingman. However, once you commit its full rage (as discussed preciously) to maximize killing and kinematics. 3. Don’t shoot at 90 miles! Way too long and minor maneuvers from red will cinematically defeat. I can’t tell you specific ranges due to security issues but pick a range (50-60nm) in the heart of the envelope at 1.2 IMN 10 deg nose high to Fox3. 4. Call your merges!!! Call it early like 10nm or once you’ve made your merge decision to avoid blue on blue frat!! This is Air Combat Maneuvering (ACM) 101. 5. ACM the first to merge is the “engaged fighter” all others entering the fight are support fighters. Engaged fighter focuses on BFM and killing. Supper fighters focus on deconfliction from engaged fighter and sanitizing/ killing other red fighters entering merge/ furball…. blue on blue “Frats” are heinous and punishable by owning the squadron a keg and calling the wife/GF and or Mom of the deceased pilot you killed!

Truly Next Generation Air Dominance!! Definitely need to put it against the current US 5th gen.... just to see how it goes. Also drop the 9x's for another 2 Peregrines.....

that was interesting for sure. hits seem legit even though the peregrine missiles require a direct hit (does not have a warhead). I figure you are right stating the peregrine works best fired at distance.

Still working on my big engine stuff writeup, but one thing i'd like to see you dois create a loadout for the NGAD's with legacy AIM-120D3's, you use peregrine elsewhere so little it's very hard to seperate what's the aircraft from what's the weaponry.

Wow. Funny thing is i imagine most enemy airforces would turn tail and run after taking 50% losses to their force, without a confirmed kill to the other side.

accurate US vs Russia battle

I'm British so naturally support the Underdog in these Battles 🙂 , Becoming hard hard viewing just lately 😂

I thought the thumbnail said 69 fighters and immediately went "nice". Disappointed. JK I love you cap o7

Can you figure a way to add the cost of unfired missiles from downed planes, to give a better cost per battle?

The way things are looking, the NGAD won't ever make it into service(cause we're all gonna be gone) Great video guys.

SuperCap, what is the best way to contact you about possible future missions? And do you plan on doing another "Carrier Command" video, I really enjoy those as well as the Infantry fight videos you post!🎉❤😂

Note that when talking about the RCS, m2 (meters squared) is not the same as square meters. 4m2 is 16 sq m.

Maybe try the Rafale with the MICA-ir

Id love to see you do a reeinactment of red dawn. maybe just the one town, but make sure armed civilians were included in the fight. Not just the 6 or 7 high schoolers.

G'day Cap! and crew.....just saw an interesting picture on FB of a F22 Raptor with its internal bay setup with 12 small missiles!! They look similar in appearance to an ESSM....EDIT it might be an artists render or could be real shot....hard to tell

ngads seat look just like my volkswagen polo´s seat. :D

It would be interesting to see if F22’s or F35’s with Peregrines would do the same as the Ngad’s, my guess yes tbh. I don’t know if it’s possible to do this in the game engine though 😅

What about NGAD vs YF23 (in Su-47 colors)? Let's have two concept aircraft fleets have at it.

RE: Cap on the AWACS range. Either NGAD itself or an F-35 flying in relatively close support would serve as the AWACS. F-35's even right now in present day have been nicknamed tiny AWACS, let alone in 2030. I know you were merely attempting to add reason to what we were seeing on screen, but in the end it's just another point where DCS is a limitation and I'm 99% sure in the real world, data link and sensor network range would solve those issues.

I think the future of air warfare is going to start involving attritable drones with good missiles. I can forsee TB2 sized drones made almost entirely of radar absorbent material carrying Hobs just loitering over the battlefield and networked to engage hostile aircraft the moment they detect on IR. They would be basically like flying mines and take down $300 million superfighters for pennies. The best part is they dont even need an airfield, they can be launched, recovered and rearmed on a small stretch of road or even vertically launched.

please man, make missile anti-ship zircon hypersonic !!!

id love to see some ngat asymetric pvp, so 5 people in 4.5th gen vs 1 in 6th etc

Idea: Joint Russian Chinese fleet vs NGAD + F35

Well.... according to Maverick, it's "the pilot, not the plane". 😁

I would’ve thought NGAD would’ve been built to out turn anything in the air for when they end up in range of heaters and guns. Not being able to turn kinda negates the “Air Dominance” part of the name. Would probably be easy meat for a TIE fighter in your sci-fi crossover battle.

Please add the AI wingman, they will not be NGAD but different. Looks a great video as always though CAP thank you!

Where's the drone swarm for the NGAD'S

Have you seen the specs for the proposed "MiG-41"? From what I've seen, if it gets built. It's supposed to be a reduced observability high supersonic interceptor. Think of a Foxhound with lower observability properties. With the canards and a tailless design, I kind of wonder if the F/A-XX has some of the knowledge learned from the X-31, assuming they have some sort of thrust vectoring. F/A-XX against the TU-22M3, TU-95s, and the Russian AWACS defending the Carrier Battle Group?

Did your model factor in Thrust Vectoring in the NGAD's flight profile and why not? It is a claimed feature in the air forces requirements ......

Please create a scenario with NGAD, SR-72, and B-21! All three 6th gen aircraft in one vid!🙏👍

Missing a few things on the PCA's specs here

Off topic question but was the SU-47 BERKUT ever modeled and used in DCS? Is that plane outdated now?

....what about, shooting down a load of cruise missiles, using only old fashioned rear-aspect heat seekers/ old Sparrow missiles?

peregrine spelled out on screen is too long, perhaps shorten it with :p for p-grin. :)

Dude I literally just checked the channel 2 mins ago and nothing... Then boom

Someone send this video to PACAF.

You could try NGAD vs the best of Europe.

You need to have your "beautiful humans" fly for the 4th-5th gen opponents to try to figure out how NGAD might be defeated. AI is obviously not up to the task. On another note: when Peregrines are plunging down at 90 degrees from straight overhead, are they effectively "notched", leading to many of their misses? Is there any way to get them to come down at a very high angle but not perpendicular?

Try ASRAAMs against the NGADs maybe?

Does anyone know what the R74 does better than the latest/greatest R73 variant? And how many G’s it pulls?

I’m these scenarios does US have enough people to fly these or is it all drones? Also if people are flying are they forced conscripts or volunteer.

The fight is not just fair

Cap, how useful would ngad be against Chinese or Russian fleet?

You’re friendly F22 pilot again w some inputs; 1. NGAD won’t fly within visual range of each other (like F22 prior comments). With their sensor suite (I’m sure not modeled correctly) spread them out 20-30 away… 2. No reason to use AB (fuel) unless killing aka giving energy to the missiles. Fly subsonic until meeting commit range (see my comments on F22 tactics). 3. Fuel: treat fuel like a weapon. Only “use it” as necessary. 4. Basic Fighter Maneuvers (BFM) aka dogfight (real pilots don’t call it dog fighting)… after you’ve attrited the red to reasonable merge numbers (see prior comments) and YOU decide to buy a merge and do BFM…. Offset both materially and vertically = get off horizon!! Come in at an angle with an aspect (lots to talk about here but I won’t) of 30-40 degrees off either high or low. This allows you to drive the fight, determine red awareness (do they turn into you?) stay out of radar search (not likely) and survive the merge (if you think they see you flare inside 10nm). 5. Hit the merge slightly above corner velocity (425-435 knots) and DO NOT break into bandit until you see rapid Line of Sight (LOS)!!! You want to fly through his control zone (again too much to talk about here… select Max AB when out of heat WEZ and break. Ugh so much to talk to. 6. Blow through = a tactic you can use in 5th Gen & NGAD (maybe not modeled in DCS) to offset from lower threats… fly past them and target primary threats depending on mission. Example: blow through lead red escorts to kill bombers on a DCA mission. Prioritize you missiles for “the mission” As always… love these and you guys are doing great! Keep them coming and reach out to me if you want advice… cold killers you are let’s go!

It would have been cool if 1 of the ngad was a adfx 02 morgan and 1 was a cfa 44 nosferatu

I hope ace combat 8 has gr themed concepts ;😜

Something everyone one seems to keep forgetting is that the reason no country(with the possible future exception of china, but I wouldn't hold my breath) has been able to match what the USAF is capable of, is that if we're playing chess, they're playing checkers. Most, if not all other countries practice Air Superiority. The USAF practices Air Supremacy. The difference is in Air Superiority, the opponent can at least do something to oppose you. In Air Supremacy, all they can really do is spam manpads like stingers. While other nations may have Air Supremacy in doctrine, none of the seem to demonstrate the capability to actually do it(though as stated before, China seems to be at least getting on the right track, but since they're trying to close a 30yr gap in tech as we continue to advanc, I, again, wouldn't hold my breath).

28:52 or maybe you try to protect with just a few NGADS an airspace and you try to penetrate that with a B21 or alike

I’m not sure if this happens in this battle but awacs seem like an extreme weakness so why not keep a designated plane to protect it?Also how could a AWAC ever be attacked when the whole point of it is telling allies where the enemies are?

what is a pagan airstrip? it pops up on the bottom bar whenever you stop viewing a particular aircraft

I was looking at Turkish naval strength ( for no reason at all) and they have an interesting flagship. It was apparently a helicopter carrier but is now basically a drone launching platform. I like the concept. I have a friend who works drones in the Mideast from a base in the United States… retired from the navy because he was unable to meet physical standards but was immediately hired as a contractor and works in the same office for considerably more than the people that fired him. The point being I see the pilots in the near future comfortably sitting in their air conditioned office

The way you have simulated NGAD is very impressive, are you limited to only 2 loyal wingmen or could you have 10 lessening the need for live pilots? Can or does AWACS control the Loyal Wingmen or just the pilots? Can NGAD be used in SEAD missions using MALD missiles and JDAMS? How would Iranians Land, Air & Sea Defenses match up with NGADS? Can NGADS be used to Plow the field for a Rapid Dragon assault?

Australian F35 and Ghostbat drone v Ngad please

Do a battle based on the “update Putin gave” today about the new patrol with mig 31’s in the Black Sea

What about su75 checkmate

Why do they always throw the AWACS in? It mitigates the differences in radar ability between the planes and it's not really realistic. Two fleets meeting in the middle of the ocean aren't going to have AWACS planes on hand.

It would be interesting to see a war game on how current Middle East US/Israeli assets might perform in the event of hostilities with Iran and other ME aligned countries in an all out air battle.

why do we sure sure m2 for radar cross-section, shouldnt we be moving mm2, cause the numbers are so small it is getting hard to tell the apart

you should do a fight against humans

How can you simulate 6th gen aircraft when it hasn't even been concretely defined yet?

have Ngad v F35&F22s

whatever happened to Violet?

NGAD Fighters have Laser Cannons instead of rotary cannon.

Wouldn't the russians be likely to have their 5th generation in front and use the 4th as missiles trucks guided in by the 5th generation planes. At least that's how the US plans to use them together. Not that it would do them a lot of good, as the SU-57's RCS are far too big, therefore they would get shot down well before getting a radar lock, I would expect.

Could you do one on hezbullah air defense in urban environment vs jets and helicopters?

Keep in mind Russia has 21 Su-57s (10 test ) and 11+ serial and with all the sanctions they cant even build more tanks, as they're dragging tanks out of museums at this point...

The russians might have that many SU-57's at that time, though I doubt it! Probably the russians won't have that many MiG-31's when the NGAD arrives, at least not at the rate they crash their planes and also as they will be extremely old airframes by then, their high speed probably will be hard on their airframes anyway. They are not in production anymore so they won't get new.

NGAD seal clubbing

Where's damp sockington? Have you banned him or did he "accidently" chatted online with sexy boys and is in trouble?

British 6th gen on the way?

Masters nd slaves wasn't a good description but I got point

Any fixes for the new stupid Beta Build from ED? I rage quit, uninstalled it and went back to the regular build. Hopefully it isn't fucked.

Def be interesting to see if Russians have the Sukhoi SU-74 Checkmate by 2030 too… is it planned in DCS?

Day 3 of asking for Carrier Strike Group vs ICBM

Using fictional aircraft is kinda pointless. Might as well use a VF-1 Valkyrie while you're at it

you gave Russia more su-57s than they actually own... lol

Sixth not Sickth

Cap, why do you keep doing this with the non-stealth 57’s?

i kinda want to see what happens when its all NATO aircraft VS all Russian/Chinese/North Korean etc aircraft

No Russian Firefox fighter jet.

Oof the generation gap is big.