I suspect Jane and Andy had an argument about who got to do the voiceover for the Kid Icarus entry. Andy: "but it's about pirates!" Jane: "but it's about SPACE"
In Digimon World DS, there is a bit of a twist on this cliche. You are supposed to fight GigaSeadramon, who is a massize sea serpent merged with an aircraft carrier, but instead find out he has been already defeated by MarineAngemon, a small sea fairy.
Andy was pretty low-key savage about it when Mike was playing one of his favorite games a couple days ago and numbers started coming out of the bad guys.
Jane is so correct with the putting "space" in front of other words to make the cooler. Battleship Yamato - Slightly impressive Space Battleship Yamato - So awesome, it's nearly off the scale
Morpho Knight appearing in Forgotten Land absolutely blew my mind. Having seen him in Star Allies, that butterfly showing up ramped my anxiety up to 10 in an instant.
Yo can we talk about how GORGEOUS the sprite art for Dragon Quest 6 was? The battle animations and enemy sprites were absolutely beautiful and the animations for them were so satisfying to watch!
@@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor All the ones running on the original Seven Engine or the DS Remake of 4's engine. The DS Remake of 4 may of been a port of the the PlayStation 1 Remake.
@@costby1105 There's also the past sections in DQXI Definitive where they use 2D graphics instead of the 3D graphics the rest of the game uses, even for parts representing games that were always in 3D like IX and X, as well as how you also had the option to play the rest of the game like that. I should've clarified that I meant the games where it uses 2D graphics and not 3D graphics.
I think I need to cite Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. You meet your final target, the Lord of Death, ready to dish out some highly cathartic vengeance, but then watch him get shanked by the actual final boss, Satan.
6:46 This is so adorable! Leon just watching their little victory dance, then bobbing his head for a bit, and finally joining them in their final pose.
It's such a nice testament to how talented and creative and enjoyable the OXBox and OXtra team are that they are still making this quality list video this far along in the proceedings. Obviously this compliment involves commenters as well since this was a crowd-sourced follow-up. What a terrific little video game channel. Thanks for so much, guys.
Keep in mind for Talos (Harmony of Dissonance), the chase _also_ made his Invulnerability get its One Weak Point - or rather, the _fall_ did that. Since if he hadn't fallen, that ankle wouldn't have been so badly bent up to allow Juste to smack his greaves out from under the rest of his body.
Another good example occurs in Jedi: Fallen Order. After Cal storms through the Inquisitor's base, he finally gets to have one last showdown with the 9th Sister, Trilla. And then freaking Darth Vader shows up, vibe checks Trilla (and she didn't pass), tosses Cere off the platform, and then comes after Cal. No fighting back, btw
There is this rather embarrassing one in Hollow Knight. Early in the game you meet this guy named Tiso who is searching for The Colosseum of Fools, a place where mightiest warriors cross their blades. You meet him several more times as you explore, each time he boasts and shows disdain for the world around him, and your final meeting takes place when you finally find that Colosseum. You enter it and meet him in a break room, him boasting and all that. You go to fight and when you come back he is gone. You can later find his corpse in a deep chasm beneath the Colosseum. He tried his hand at fighting there and was immediately killed and thrown out. The humiliation continues however. You see, one of the DLCs for the game released a location where you fight nothing but bosses. You can fight them in individual or you can fight them as a Boss Rush in Pantheons. And in one of those Pantheons you meet Tiso again, he brandishes his weapons and just when you think you'll finally get to fight him... he is jumped on and killed by the actual boss. Poor Poor Tiso, he now exists as nothing more than something for another boss to casually kill before he faces you.
@@l.mikallieanderson7127 It's really a shame we never got to fight him... while Zote got all that undeserved hype. Still the fact that he somehow managed to reach Deep Nest and NOT die is very suspicious.
@@rjfrost7090 KH at least tries to explain it to you and I swear it makes sense in the moment, but inexplicable after. Contra throws random after you without telling you how or why
The only Contra lore I know is that it is 1- solely responsible for teaching me what "rage-quit" is, and 2- also responsible for one of the only 2 times that I have ever actually broken a controller due to said rage-quitting....
At the end of the first stage in Castle Crashers, you come to the gates of the city where a large hulk of a barbarian is waiting for you in front of the door. After giving out his battle cry, the doors promptly crush him as an even larger and beefier barbarian bursts through.
One of my favorites instances of this was in a mobile game. In infinity Blade 2 a guy in the basement of a castle would talk mad shit to you, then a giant stone golem would fall from the roof and crush him. Funny shit
The Destroyer in Borderlands becomes a whole lot less impressive once you find out that you can just cheese it from behind a pillar. But yes, it's an annoying bullet sponge otherwise. Steele also comes back as a zombie in the Zombie Island of Doctor Net DLC.
@@NeonKnightOA Ah, that's right. Been years since I played either DLC, so I'd forgotten. I guess I just assumed since she was dead, it must have been the Zombie Island DLC she appeared in.
Surprised to see Nokturnus of all characters here. His is definitely the most unique of the circumstances in this list, since there you pretty much ask him to kick the final boss's ass for you. And it is glorious.
I’d like to think that the space pirates in Kid Icarus are the same ones in Metroid, and the death of this particularly weak captain is how Ridley ended up in charge.
Ridley was actually never in charge of the Space Pirates. It's mother brain that's in charge. Ridley is just the second in command. Also, the metroids in the first game were being controlled by mother brain because they were a chozo super computer which went rogue and therefore could control them. They couldn't control queen metroids though or override the control of a queen metroid which is why the baby isn't affected by Mother Brain.
In Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling, you are all geared up for a boss fight against the Primal Weevil, who you had fought before, only to have your nemesis Mothiva and Zasp shoe up, wreck it, and kick you into a rock hard boss fight against her and Zasp.
I'm not sure what I liked more about that bit: Team Snakemouth being like 'wait we already literally beat a primal weevil to get here' or it being one of like 2 times in the entire game where Kabbu is GENUIENLY pissed
In Kingdom Hearts franchise there were Disney Villains that were killed by monsters like the Heartless, Nobodies, Unversed and Dream Eaters. Take for example Cinderella's stepmother and stepsisters were killed by a pumpkin Carriage Unversed. Judge Frollo was killed by a Dream Eater gargoyle thing and Pete from Timeless Melody gets flattened by his future self version who time traveled to the past.
08:20 "a butterfly, not a big deal" everyone, who doesn't know Kirby: "aww, what a nice buttferfly" everyone, who know Kirby and/or played some Kirby Games: "hello old friend" or "what, what, you? Go away, you hell spawn" Or so I imagine is the first reaction, when this plot twist is revealed
The first fight against Harbinger Ganon in the Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity DLC is one. You're told the whole first mission that there's a lynel at the Coliseum, but when you get there to actually try and fight it, Harbinger Ganon drops down and devours it before turning to fight you.
I don’t expect most people to know this one but in Project Nexus a recurring boss duo named Church and Jorge show up one last time decked out in new armor and weapons in what would’ve made for a difficult fight get killed by Gestalt while they were doing their warmup.
Still no Guardians of the Galaxy? True, you don’t fight Magus until the finale, but he does kill off the space whale you thought was going to be the boss of the first level.
Does it have a human face for a butt, or did it try to kill you with its turtle head butt before turning to face you when you literally ripped it a new one? Important questions to which I demand answers!
oh, that reminds me of the two-faced final boss of "starfox adventures dinosaur planet". one side looks like the "krazoa statues" you seen many times before, the other is, of course, Andross.
@@ericb3157 I’m not even that much of a Star Fox fan, but even I still thought that was kinda cheap. At least in Mega Man, where you always know that Dr. Wily (classic series) or Sigma (X series), having the same main bad guy in each game is kinda funny because it’s become somewhat repetitive, basically becoming a running gag, and you can see signs that it will happen in some respect (except X6; while I like the reborn Sigma as a frail zombie-like being, it was kinda unnecessary and shoehorned in and definitely not predictable outside the fact that Capcom apparently can’t make a Mega Man X game where Sigma _isn’t_ the final or penultimate boss). Same with Dr. Eggman being betrayed by his creations and/or betraying Sonic & co. once the current threat is dealt with. And at least, outside of Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, each classic Mega Man, Mega Man X, or Sonic game (for the most part) _feels_ like a game made for and part of their respective franchises even if you were to change the characters in them. With Andross, though… Like, of the 8 games in the Star Fox franchise (not counting the spin-off with security cameras or ports for Virtual Console, NSO, or mini consoles but including the originally cancelled and until-recently-unreleased Star Fox 2 as well as the 3DS remake), four of them (the original, Star Fox 64, Star Fox 64 3D, and Star Fox Zero) all tell essentially the exact same story with minor differences (and not even in a “the plot of this game follows the same general trends as this other game in the series” kind of way but in the sense that it’s literally the same story being told slightly differently (if not exactly the same), not even taking place in a different time), and two of them are essentially the only ones (outside of Star Fox 2) to receive remakes and ports at all (because apparently remaking or porting any GameCube games-aside from Pikmin 1&2 for the Wii, Metroid Prime 1&2 for the Wii, Mario Power Tennis for the Wii, that one Donkey Kong platformer with the DK Bongos for the Wii, two of the three GameCube Zelda games for the Wii U, the original Luigi’s Mansion for the 3DS, and Super Mario Sunshine for the Switch (as part of a limited release, which is ridiculous)-is just too much for Nintendo to be capable of, but not remaking or porting NES, SNES, or N64 games for the umpteenth time). Star Fox 2 itself also had Andross as the main antagonist and final boss, too. The two that didn’t have Andross (Assault and Command) weren’t even being developed until after Star Fox Adventure was released, and one of them (Command) was really weird from a story perspective, though the other is actually really good. So that’s 6 out of 8 games that have Andross as the final boss, 4 of which are just the same story with some variations. On top of that, since Star Fox 2 wasn’t officially released at all until the SNES Mini was released and Assault, Command, 64 3D, and Zero weren’t even in development yet, when Star Fox Adventure was released, the only two Star Fox games that had been released previously were the original and Star Fox 64, and Star Fox 64 was itself basically just a remake of the first game. Star Fox Adventure was the first Star Fox game to be released that actually told of events beyond what happened in the first game. There was no reason for Andross to be the final boss. And it was obviously shoehorned in to justify making it a Star Fox game. Like, outside occasional minor appearances from or references to Peppy, Slippy, Falco, and that one guy who’s the commander or whatever, the only things-in terms of plot, gameplay, or visuals-that made the game a Star Fox game prior to Andross’s sudden appearance was that you played most of the game as Fox and occasionally got to fly an Arwing at certain points. You didn’t even get to use Fox’s Blaster! Yes, I know it wasn’t originally a Star Fox game, but it’s just way too obvious that it’s really just a Star Fox game in name only. Throwing Andross in at the end only makes it even more painfully obvious that all the Star Fox elements were shoehorned in without any real care. There was no build-up, no hints that, even in hindsight, could lead one to see this coming or see it as a logical progression. And while that can be good for plot twists, it was too abrupt for its own good, and it also doesn’t work as fanservice because everything else about the game is so unlike Star Fox (not to mention that there were only two other games in the franchise at that point along with two appearances in Smash Bros., so there wasn’t much to pull from for fanservice to begin with and it was much too early to depend on such fanservice to critical aspects of the game like a plot twist for the final boss). On top of that, you don’t even get a chance to face the antagonist every other part of the game was building up towards: General Scales. While that worked for Conker’s Bad Fur Day to some extent since that whole game was about subverting expectations and parodying 3D platformers and mascot platformers (and it led to a pretty neat movie reference, which is something else that game loves to do), Star Fox Adventures takes itself too seriously for that to really work. Maybe if you had a previous fight with him before or he changed sides when Andross betrayed him and helped you out, maybe it could have worked better than it did, but as it stands, Andross’s appearance just makes you frustrated that you never got to fight General Scales at all after all that build-up. It was super anticlimactic, and the payoff was not at all worth it. And the mechanics of the boss fight was using the Arwing. Y’know, that gameplay style that rarely got used earlier in the game? Yeah, you have to use it for the entirety of the final boss battle. Rather than making it feel more like a Star Fox game, it only makes it even more apparent how tacked-on all the Star Fox elements were.
Check out the Megami Tensei: Last Bible series. It's all about that. I played it a long time ago on Game Boy, but I remember beating the bonus boss (who I'm pretty sure was literally Lucifer) and adding him to my party. He demolished the normal final boss handily.
@@Konpekikaminari actually in dragon quest 5 you already had that ability where you could recruit regular monsters and then have thrm in your party. EDIT: meant 5. In the original 6 it worked like that but for ds you just have friendly slimes you can recruit when you meet certain conditions.
In Dragon Quest 4 (think it may only be in 3ds verdion) you have the final boss of the main game join your party after you revive his lover and you can then fight the true final boss.
How has Fallen Order not been mentioned in this series yet?not only a well done instance of the trope, but a far more iconic character than some turtle’s arse…
This is coming from someone who's never played a Borderlands game, but I love the detail that Steele has additional dialogue in her subtitles that she never gets to say just to *really* catch the player by surprise, since if they're a quick reader, they'd get her death spoiled a moment before it actually happened if they wrote something like "Yes, the key works. Sergeant, get your team ready to go inside-- AAAAAAGGGH!"
The only thing scary about the Destroyer is how quickly you can deplete its healthbar with that Double Anarchy SMG. Seriously, this boss was so easy in the original release that they had to buff it in the GOTY edition. And you can still delete it before it even attacks. The only thing the Destroyer could actually destroy is a wet paper bag. And Commandant Steele, apparently. Embarrassing way to go, quite frankly.
I posit: Saren, taking himself out and then his corpse being controlled by Sovereign. Unless you didn’t max out charm or intimidate, then you had to kill him.
I've got to say that recruiting the superboss to wreck the final boss of the game is an awesome concept and it's a crime that more games didn't follow Dragon Quest VI's lead.
oh, that reminds me of a game...drat i forgot the name, dragon something... anyway, IF you are clever, you can get the "queen dragon" to wipe out the main villains entire army for you. it involves healing a sick dragon...
Mike's commentary inspired me. I now want to see a game i which the actual lore of the game is that a world populated by robots or somesuch are literally filled with numbers, and that is what they bleed as you hit them. When they run out, they can no longer function.
Another game that did this is Stick wars legacy. (which was especially surprising since the flash game stick wars was more or less identical. They then revealed the final boss identical to the final boss of the flash game just to have a bigger boss come out kill him and then use the original boss as weapon in legacy)
OK, I have to admit having the much harder secret boss beat the stuffing out of the regular plot boss is a brilliant idea and I'd like for it to become a thing
Wow, two episodes of this and nobody mentions Totem Araquanid from Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon? In the original S/M, a massive school of fish called Totem Wishiwashi comes to kill you as you swim out into it's home, it's scary, so on. However, in USUM, when you visit this same home, you watch as the school of fish form again before a massive beam of light eats all of them, and a massive Araquanid rises from the sea like it's ready to eat you next.
Totem Araquanid doesn't eat the Totem Wishiwashi. It just scares away the Totem Wishiwashi before it's able to summon other wishiwashi through its school ability.
@@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor I'm not sure if that's true. I could've sworn Lana explicitly says after the Lush Jungle trial that Araquanid ate the Wishiwashi she worked so hard to train
I was so surprised when that happened. I wonder if Lana had a talking to with Totem Araquanid about knocking out Totem Wishiwashi. I can imagine it going something like this Lana: I know you wanted a turn but you know you didn't have to attack Totem Wishiwashi. Araquanid: Araqua... 😞 Lana: No. I'm not mad just makesure you apologize alright? Araquanid: Araquanid 😔 Lana: Good boy. Other than that you did a great job out there. 🙂 Araquanid: Ara Araqua 😊
I love these especially for JRPG's the only exception is IF the replacement boss just so happens to be a Tonberry but you already covered that in your last video and DQ6 is POST game only for that scenario so its kind of pointless.
Not a game, but my favorite example of this is from Slayers NEXT. They spend most of the season gearing up to fight the big bad Gaav, then Hellmaster Phabrizzo snaps his fingers and dusts Gaav.
Point of order, Jane: the verb in the phrase “swashbuckling” is actually buckling. Which is to say, it is more appropriate to say “buckling swashes” as opposed to “swashing buckles” *snorts* *adjusts glasses*
In my experience, if you want numbers you take an engineering textbook. You can find pure mathematics texts where, to find a number, you have to look at the top outer corner of a page or the header of a chapter.
for reference to the uninformed, the butterfly that makes Morpho Knight ate Galacta Knight in Star Allies. Galacta Knight was one of Kirby's main superbosses for a good while. said butterfly is also *A being that decides the fates of souls lost in battles* . i'll let that sink in for you.
I like to imagine that during their time together, Revenge Armor just made some really thoughtless comments, or was always leaving the empty roll of toilet paper on the holder or something, and Talos figured that would be a good moment to pin his demise on Belmont.
I think the staple boss for this topic is Heishin from the Yu-Gi-Oh games. In all of his video game appearances, he's built up to be the main villain, only for someone more terrifying to kill him off right when you face him.
In Dino Crisis 2 the player is cornered by a T-Rex near the end of the game, just when it seems like the boss battle is about to begin the T-Rex is attacked and killed by a larger dinosaur a Giganotosaurus.
4:44 It is widely believed among scholars, that even the complete sections of the Bibliotheca Pseudo-Apollodorus, are an epitome of lost works. Like how the ancient Greek dramatics only briefly alluded to the whole space pirate story arc.
Dino Crisis 2, when the T-Rex that has even suvived attacks by a fucking tank, gets bodied and dinohandled by the Giganotosaurus. Shit almost gave me a heart attack when I was a kid
Tales of Arise, Vholran killing witch lady you just fought. Then you have to go and fight him after losing a main character, and farming xP off of mobs to get there. Idk if that’s been mentioned or was in previous. I just beat that game a few months ago.
Commandant Steele was the one I was expecting to see on the first video. Also I miss the original Destroyer, it was way more intimidating then what they they turned it into for BL3 (a giant disappointment).
Both Destroyers were disappointing, one a dumb bullet sponge (that just sits there), the other being another annoying fight with invincibility phases, thank god it didn’t appear in BL2
@@dinoshotgun The way they made it sound in BL3 was like the Destroyer from the first game was basically just its little toe sticking out, which would've explained why it was a bullet sponge (it was to big to fit through and actually do anything). So I was expecting the actual Destroyer to be essentially the ultimate raidboss (like Crawmarax + Terramophous + Vermivorous + Haderax) and for Tyreen to meet her end similar to Steele, instead we got imo one of the stupidest bosses that felt like it was supposed to have QTEs. They could've done like with Son of Crawmerax and fight him for the story then any rematches are against his raid boss version. Also did they ever explain why that first vault apparently led directly to the Destroyer? It kinda defeats the point of the elaborate system turning Pandora into a giant vault if they're going put in an easily opened side door too.
@@AZ-rl7pg that somehow makes the destroyer from BL1 and BL3 even lamer then I already thought. We fight it’s stupid toe in the first game then get to fight a lame invisibility phase boss in the next. It’s like I always said, BL2 and TPS are the superior borderlands games (as long as you don’t get ultimate vault hunter mode, god that mode sucked, and OP is even worse)
I miss when they’d say the comment that recommended it, even if a lot of people would recommend a boss, like the borderlands one in this video for example, it gave these videos some extra personality.
I wouldn't say the first boss in Castle Crashers is scary, but it was killed by a much larger boss. The best part is the bonk mark on the inside of the door
Well, you can get the Castlevania Advance collection on Steam and consoles that includes Aria of Sorrow (that featured in the original list of "bosses that get instantly destroyed by another boss"), Circle of the Moon, Harmony of Dissonance (that featured on this list) and Dracula X. It's just a port, but it's pretty well-done and features a few QoL improvements (such as a full bestiary for CotM, AoS and HoD that lists their item drops, a tracking system for Aria that tells you if you've already got a monsters' soul or not and a Harmony of Dissonance checklist that tells you if you've collected all the relics/furniture in each area).
@@Tyrranis yeah for sure, I bought it on the switch and loved going back, just wish there was new games for it, I always loved seeing the new castle designs and hearing the awesome soundtracks
Here's another one for a future video like this. In Starfox Assault Level 1, you fight Andross's annoying nephew Andrew who turns his ship into a head and hands. Once you defeat him, he gloats about being the heir to Andross only to be blasted into scrap by the real level 1 boss, a flying Aparoid with moth-like wings and it turns out to be a lot tougher then Andrew ever was.
I do remember a gigantic green monster in Final fantasy XII that is instantly killed by the small fluffy bunny that embodies wrath itself, or something.
Sadly, the Destroyer isn't much EXCEPT a damage sponge, and it is ridiculously easy to hit because it is literally the size of the broad side of a barn. Fighting Steele would have been much more fun.
I recently played through Borderlands 1 again and I forgot just how annoying that final boss is to fight. So many of his slam attacks just knock you around (or off) the arena
That one was pretty tough, until you find out Dispel cancels its Berserk status, to which it responds by making itself Berserk again. Repeat while the other 2 party members beat it to death, rendering the 2nd half of the fight a joke.
After being chased by Chris Walker for the entirety of Outlast, he instantly gets killed by the Walrider when Chris finally catches you in the final area of the game
it's only at the end of the fight, but castlevania lament of innocence. Walter Bernhard, you beat him and last minute he's killed by death, and now you have to fight the much much harder personification of death. Made worse by only having the gear you had left from beating walter, an already hard fight.
I was sitting next to my husband (who has a math doctorate) watching this and after the pure math textbook comment he immediately said, "Pure math textbooks mostly use letters." Lol
Speaking of the destroyer… they really just rehashed the boss in the third game as the final boss, yes it combines with tyreen but it’s the same fight basically as the first game… and just as easy.
This isn’t even the first time Morpho Knight’s pulled this stunt. His debut in Kirby Star Allies showed him doing the exact same thing to Galacta Knight.
