Simon Terrode is the german equivalent to those players. Scored 30 goals for schalke on route to promotion while not being able to score more than 5 goals a season when playing in the Bundesliga.
I was about to say hes still young, but no he absolutely isnt still young, he as an amazing 1 2.bundesliga game though, dude has been hitting 20+ in his last 5 2.bundesliga seasons
great video but to even suggest Pukki I think is wrong, what he’s done this season in a side completely devoid of goals and attacking output (14 g/a out of Norwich’s 23) has been incredible
@@jmfoxall7230 Dude, this season Norwich scored like 21 goals in total and Pukki scored 11 goals alone. This video is stupid imo. If you had a player like Pukki or Aleksandar Mitrovic playing as a striker for a team like Manchester City or Liverpool, they could honestly score that 20 goals/a season. How can you shine if your team is so bad? Playing in a bad team doesn't always mean you're a bad player or not worth being a PL player.
Stick Pukki with good service and he would be 15-20 goals a season. Mitrovic I'm not to sure about given he hasn't really shone in his attempts in the Prem.
Exactly. For strikers good service and good players below are everything. Even my 86yo grandpa would score many of those chances a team like City creates in almost every game. Mitrovic is a beast. He scored like 43 goals this season in Championship but unfortunately Fulham will probably not be a strong team in the PL so he'll probably end up being 10 goals/a season player 😂
Yeah, never really felt comfortable with him in the lineup for Scotland either. That is generally a good sign they've reached their level. Actually, you can put Jordan Rhodes into that category too.
As a Fulham fan definitely seconding Tim Ream, he's absolutely brilliant in the Championship but a complete liability in the Prem. I think Championship sides aren't used to those kind of front-foot centre backs and afford him way too much time on the ball which lets him play almost as a 6/8 at times whereas he gets absolutely destroyed by the more intense pressing systems in the Prem
As a Wolves fan, Sylvan Ebanks-Blake came to mind. Top scorer in the Championship two years running, but never reached anywhere close to those heights in the Premier League
That's mad !! I remember watchin the lad at United in their u18 & reserve side back on MUTV a decade or two ago. Which is pretty impressive considering I was only born in 97 lol ( Gotta be the first player I actually specifically enjoyed watching play football ) but i was convinced that he'd end up playing for the first team back than. Would score most games I'd tune in that year. & If I'm not mistaken to he shared the role in Uniteds reserve squad at the time with a young Fraizer Campbell who ironically probably would have made more out his career if he stuck to the championship to. That name brings back so many memories for me ! Lol I was so disappointed when he left the club
Nonsense ebanks_blake was a good solid premiership forward with a decent premiership record to back it up .and their are player's at Manchester United now who are way worse getting payed way more
@@maestroscandi882 my own opinion he was a good solid forward their been plenty worse and he was good at wolves not a bad player at all and definitely not boring to watch
@@Reynolds69er He may well prove me wrong, its just he has a lot of hype off one season, after being relatively unknown, if hes not managed correctly people will have unfair expectations for him
As a Forest fan, we had Billy for a season and he became a fan favourite. A great night for Forest was overshadowed by the attack on Billy Sharp. Billy has shown in his statement that he does not hold it against all the fans. On That 'fan' has also got a lifetime ban from attending ALL Forest matches at any level. Something good also came out of this as Forest fans set out to raise £500, but in the end, have raised over £13k for a charity of Billy's choice and he has chosen Martin House Hospice in Wetherby
Yet another instance of idiotic football fans. Some clubs have more than most (I believe Forest are in that category), but it’s stuff like this that shows that Hooliganism will never really die
@@jackbrownio3 Last week from Monday to yesterday(Sunday) there was an incident at every match that had any meaning, the latest incident was at the Man City v Aston Villa game. The pitch invasions and violence has been creeping in through the whole season, but have sped up in the last week. The authorities must act to 'stamp' it out quickly.
@@charliegorham8301 No, it's so naive to think it is just an end of season 'problem'. We had years where football-related violence had reduced so much, the UK was not listed as a cause for concern country. When there is moral decay elsewhere it is amplified at football
As a newcastle fan, its astonishing that we never cashed in on Dwight Gayle to a championship club when its always been clear he cant cut it in the Prem. im sure we could have bought someone just as good or better for the 10m+ we could have got for him.
You're aware Pukki has scored 22 goals in 2 seasons for a club that's finished bottom of the league both those seasons? And that he's Finland's all time top scorer? He's literally had to try and carry Norwich on his shoulders both PL seasons, how is he getting a mention here??
his trying sadly doesnt convert to much, i mean hes great finnish player, but premier league isnt really his style, i mean i remember seeing him at Brøndby and even my extreme Brøndby hatred didnt put down his exceptional talent but actually double digits is better than i thpught
@@007Fusiion he had a half decent single season in the PL and an anonymous one. He's been promoted a couple of times in hot shit form at Championship level. He will probably get another roll of the dice with Bournemouth, but ultimately I don't think he has the mentality for the top flight and he's far too lightweight
You would think that a lot more defenders would appear here, because it's often the defence that can't cope when a club gets promoted from the Championship to the Premiership. But then you'd probably have hundreds of contenders (and groups rather than individuals) rather than a top 7. Will be interesting to see how Mitrovic does in the PL as he has developed since his earlier stays.
Until Periera came a couple of seasons ago. Koumas was the most talented played I'd seen at the Albion. Rumours were he had a gambling addiction and that he hated football. When we signed him there was loads of talk of him being better than Gerrard and it was quite the coup that he came to us. He really was fantastic with the ball at his feet.
Nugent at PNE was unbelievable. He was quick, clinical and his movement was unbelievable. Shame he never made the step up, as to get a call up whilst in the championship shows how good he was
3-4 results accounted for a hefty amount of that GD - 7-0 Man City, 6-0 Liverpool, 4-0 Spurs, 5-1 Man U for example... add a couple of 3-0s to the mix too..
I'm a Newcastle fan, mitro unfairly gets labelled not good enough for the PL. His debut season as a 21 year old, he had 8/9 PL goals. Pretty decent at any age for a striker of a club that got relegated. After that benitez just didn't like him. For Fulham he again had to play for a club fighting relegation. Put him in a decent team and he'll score like he does for Serbia.
@@RaseYourProbs people just look at titles not the subtext behind it. Mitro does well for a player in a relegation team especially 2018/2019. In 2020/2021 there where several factors preventing him doing well. If he was in a top half prem team getting all the options in the world like other strikers he’d be considered world class people just like to look at topics very narrowly shame.
@@RaseYourProbs I'm a Newcastle fan and I absolutely hated having him in our team. Possibly the laziest striker we've had in recent memory. His problem is that while he is a clean striker of the ball. He's slow, can't dribble and doesn't work hard, the reason he's bad in the Prem is Prem defences don't give you space and time on the ball, both of which Mitro needs. Which is also why he excels in international football with its lower intensity. There is a reason every time he's been in the premiership its resulted in relegation.
@@Afr0M0th I see your point of view, but I disagree with the assessment that he's not cut for the league. He's not fast, yes, but besides being a thug, he has great awareness, his link up play is so underrated, holds the ball up so well. He's not a 30 goal a season striker, but in a good team I'd say easy 15
@@Afr0M0th Have to agree with prakash. He has 44 goals in 71 appearances for Serbia and is excellent in the air with a clean shooting technique. Create for him and he'll finish. His work rate could definitely be improved though.
@@archstanton6102 And for some years Crystal Palace, but they have consolidated now. Was expecting them to struggle this season with Hodgson and several players leaving, but Vieira has done a great job.
Just about to sit down and watch this. This calibre of player has always fascinated me, even across multiple sports or even non-sports, like professional wrestling (Jeff Jarrett is the ultimate "not good enough for the main event but way too good to be below the main event" talent of all time). Seems in the English game there should be room for promotion specialists as players; of course it's highly unlikely a professional athlete will not back themselves to go on to the PL, but players who routinely don't end up doing well at the top end of the game could benefit by marketing themselves as a gun for hire to push a team into PL glory before moving on to the next Championship title contender. Maybe someone like Mitrovic.
As a Norwich fan, I disagree with putting Grant Hanley in the venn diagram at the start. Personally, he's one of the few players I'd want to keep based on their performances this season and I believe was even 2nd in our player of the season voting. If you want Norwich centre back for too good for championship but not good enough for the prem go Ben Gibson instead.
Thank you for not including Mitrovic, the amount of unfair mockery that guy gets for his PL record (not least with all the recent unoriginal jokes that he'll bomb again this coming season) simply infuriates me
Video idea: best (as a keeper) outfield player who had to play in goal after their keeper was either sent off or injured. Can be Premier League only or any league.
Chaker Alhadur, the left back in goal for Comoros has to get a mention. Saved 5 of the 7 shots he faced, against tournament hosts Cameroon, with his team down to 10 men in from very early on. Kept them in the game and they lost by a single goal in the end, hero.
Technically he's great, and could be a top footballer on any level based on that only - but professional sports is much more about the mental endurance. Probably he didn't have that.
@@MiklosHajma how do you even know he is good technically lol. If he was good technically, he would've at LEAST made some strides. Man didn't even get anything
I know that's what I was referring too, there's no way he was the best "on the ball" play in one of best teams in premier league history. Also pretty sure there was an arsenal player that would have been in the academy at the same time as him said he wasn't even in the academy
This list is very skewed because it’s the team that isn’t good enough for the premier league as opposed to one player. If a striker gets 1 or 2 chances per game in the prem, they aren’t likely hit the same goals tally as in the championship where they get 5/6.
Tbf Vydra is a perfectly reasonable pick for the lost given his quality in the championship and his lack of quality for prem teams, esp Burnley who've been a very decent prem team over the seasons
Hope you do a video focusing on the history of the Edinburgh derby which has a long history as one of, if not THE oldest football derby in the world, would be nice to focus on something Scottish related that is not the Old Firm for once.
In basketball we have guys on special contracts called "two-way contracts" where they bouncd back and forth between the NBA and the second-divison G-League, and I feel like that's equivalent to this
@@CGormanR35 Makes no sense mate. He scored 11 goals 2018/2019 more than Antonio this year in a team getting relegated. Last season was a write off lots of fighting between him and manager and he only played a substitute role for most of the games. If he was in a top half side or given lots more chances and consistently played he will do well that’s why he’s not on the list.
They should sign in Ligue 1 ! Would fit perfectly :) PS : Nothing against Ligue 1, I'm French, but let's be real... Outside of PSG, Ligue 1 is particularly interesting for players development/talents growth, but it has a tough time competing with the big four championships and are just behind it. Dutch & Portuguese championships are often considered inferior to it (they are ranked right behind France in the UEFA country coefficients) but historically, they actually have far better results when it comes to European Cups won.
Yay, another name pun has been added! We now have 'Wright' in addition to 'EddieHowe', keep them coming! There's room for some other obvious ones, such as someone having a 'Sterling' display etc
Just a point I'd like to add. In the days before the Premier league, Lower leagur players often made a BIG step up the the old First Division and were stars. Kevin Keegan springs to mind. Liverpool signed him from Scunthorpe, and he went on the play for England. Then in the 80s, Liverpool signed John Aldridge from Oxford United when they were a third Division team, to replace Ian Rush. He was also an excellent striker. Sad that with all the money sloshing around these days, that Premier league teanms just don't even look to the 2 lowest divisions.
I think it's also the case that the Premier League teams hoover up the most talented youth players at ever increasingly young ages. So, therefore, it's only the late developers that will go through non league/lower leagues before working they're way up the pyramid.
What if you did the opposite of this? Good top flight players who are genuinely bad in lower leagues, and not because of a lack of experience or injuries.
This concept is super interesting to me because I wonder if it comes down to things like overwhelming athleticism, personnel and tactics. These guys are obviously talented in that they can find the back of the net by beating goalkeepers but this is a 22 man game we're talking about. I cannot help but feel in hypothetical perfect conditions (tactics, athleticism, teammates) , all these players mentioned, as well as a few other hidden gems would at the very least be average in the premier league. We've seen what happens when (an albeit older) Ronaldo gets played on a weaker team; he's still good but not as much of a problem as he was on better teams. I think a lot of these kind of players could benefit from playing overseas but whether or not they are open to such things is another thing entirely. Good vid.
Tim Ream? He usually is a constant presence when Fulham finishes top 2 in the Championship, but then barely plays a minute when Fulham yo-yos up to the Prem.
Not enough evidence yet. Most of these guys have had a few attempts at the prem and failed. Maybe after one more season with Fulham we could give a fair assessment.
A video explaining different league formats would be nice. From easy to understand stuff like the Premier League, to a bit more complicated MLS, across Latin America's 'apertura' and 'clausura', ending in whatever the f*** Belgium has created.
Day 30: Considering that the last player who played in the miracle of Bern died about 6 months ago, I would really like to see a video about the whole story between Germany and Hungary, especially because it meant so much to at least the German population
Guy Whittingham was great in the PL for SWFC! Definitely PL standard! He played in midfield for us and not up front which is why he didn't score a huge amount.
I remember the minor league Phoenix Firebirds baseball team when I moved from Fort Wayne, IN, to Phoenix in 1992. (The Firebirds moved to, I believe, Fresno, before the 1998 season.)
I reckon a common theme for a lot of these players is they would be considered poacher style strikers, something which you don’t really see in the prem anymore, some of them probably could do better in top divisions in other countries where the style is different
Some of these players should try to get a move outside of England to a top tier European league which is on the intermediate level between E.F.L. championship and E.P.L. so they can get better exposure at the global level but most of the players (other than foreigners) who play in England rarely move out to play in a different country due to family or not wanting to adapt to living in a different country mainly due to language issues.
@@mainchannel1566 Is M.L.S. currently better than the E.F.L. championship ? I was thinking more about the Belgian, Dutch, Croatian (,etc) leagues which are known to develop technically brilliant footballers but the language might be an issue there.
Robert Muhren is the dutch player who fits this perfectly. Scores for fun and makes team play for the titel in our 2nd division. But looks completely out of his depth on the highest level.
I remember when martinez came in at wigan and people were talking about it being a new dawn for koumas who would have the shackles taken off but he bombed and was soon gone
Jordan Rhodes - Wednesday fan who scored 4 in 1 game agains the Owls for Huddersfield but then eventually played for us only to refuse to take a penalty vs Huddersfield in the play off semi final but then as the video mentions scored the winner to send Huddersfield to Wembley this year. Not thought of fondly around Hillsborough
Best I’ve ever seen at tranmere, would see him at the McDonalds on a Sunday morning which probably explains why he never became what he should have been!
Anthony Knockaert and Teemu Pukki are the two players that immediately came to mind when I saw the title of this video. Would add Jermaine Beckford and Robert Snodgrass to the conversation as well.
One thing Micheal did that you should do if you are thinking if your own channell is he did videos on mma whike he was building before leaving I think you should do some passion projects on the alfie page dude you are a football theorist and your knowledge is second to none it's the highlight of my morning .... Every second morning lol
Have to say I was expecting Mitrovic to feature but your right; he wasn't as unsucessful as those on the list in the top flight and who knows, he may do well for Fulham next term!
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 325) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Nobody cares. Ignore me if you want but try appreciating the content that's made instead of having your selfish wishes granted. If you want a video that badly then why not make it yourself?
@@ntmundemba9042 I'm not bitter mate. Just imagine that you have spent days researching, recording and editing a video only for your audience to wave it away and demand their video should be made instead. Some content creators have stopped making content because of this. He isn't commenting on the video in question and doesn't even have the courtesy to watch the video before making his demands. He has done this over 300 times. He should chill and enjoy the content he gets for free instead of being selfish.
@@19822andy ... AND WHO SAYS HE IS NOT DOING BOTH??? Posting a comment and still enjoying and watching the video is not a possibility or what? You are a bitter fool, nothing more and nothing less.
@@19822andy To be fair mate, all he's doing is asking, and Alfie frequently acts upon the requests of the comments. Doesn't mean he's ignoring all of the other videos 😂
Would have been interesting to see if some of these strikers had been given a real run in the PL, would things still be the same? Similarly, if they'd been picked up by an established mid-table team rather than (like Pukki) be stuck with a team that were never going to give them the support they need to be their best.
matheus pereira from west brom comes to mind. yes he scored a few goals in the prem but didn't really help them win many games. meanwhile he looked like a world beater in the championship
Nah I’m sorry I have to disagree there. The only reason he didn’t do as well as he could was due to us playing a system that didn’t suit his play style and he had awful players around him. He’d rip it up in a team like Leicester or West Ham
Dwight Gayle has never been given a fair run in the premier league with a team. He was consistent when he got a run of games for Crystal Palace about 4/5 years ago and was so good. He's one player I think is massively underestimated. He would do such a better job than Pukki for Norwich if he'd moved. I also think he's a great professional because we don't hear a lot about him throwing a fit and celebrates his teammates' goals
Agreed. Had his fair share of injuries and aside from Rafa played under defensive minded managers in virtually every season in the PL. Rafa new his quality but injuries and team perforamnce meant he could not get the best out of him.
Tbf about 50 of vyds appearances for Burnley were 2 minute cameos from the bench. Dyche didn’t like using him even though he made the front line much more creative.
Matej Vydra should be second in the list lol. He always gets 20+ goals in the championship except for the one season he got 16 but when he gets in the prem he can’t score more than 3 goals 😭.
Each club will usually release 3 strips each year. 1) home shirt, which will most likely stick to the club's 'original' colour and pattern. E.g Red and white stripes for Sunderland and black and white stripes for Newcastle. 2) away kit. This will be a different colour to the home shirt. 3) 3rd kit. Incase there is a colour clash in a match... (And to make more money from shirt sales) Some clubs will have a similar home colour. E.g West ham, Aston villa & Burnley. Or, Sunderland, Southampton and Sheffield United. When the play eachother, the away or 3rd kit will be used.
Peter Whittingham (RIP), was a solid midfielder for Villa in the Premier League during the start of his career. Certainly had his best years in the Championship, but think you were right to not include him.
I remember Peter Wittingham having a particularly good season at Villa early in his career where despite being nominally a wide player at the time, he was moved into centre-mid so that he could have more influence on the game. I was a bit baffled when we sold him, this was a period where Villa made a bit of a habit of selling promising British players who were obviously going to do well elsewhere (see also Gary Cahill and Steven “most capped British player of all time” Davis).
Day 4 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing rise back to the top-level football which culminated in return to Europe after 33 years which has seen elimination of Coleraine before a suprising win over AEK Athens before exiting 3rd Round against Elfsborg IF and recently continuing in the Cup win this season which has ensured another European summer next season
A lot of it has to do with play style and quality of players, some people play better and thrive with bad teammates because they have to play harder other play better with quite exceptional teammates who expect a lot from them. The way the team plays matters too. Formation and individual discipline a lot of factors go into how well someone plays with a team. Like ones play style and yes the argument can be made that a good player adapts but we can take a look at man united this season and see the perfect example of good players not playing good together for one reason or another.
I kind of always disagree with a bunch of these "too good for the Champ/not good enough for the PL"... I mean come on in the Championship they play for dominant teams that create chances and then collectively and understandably they come up against better opposition and get less of the ball, less corners, less penalties, less free kicks, less chances. They become the team they enjoyed smashing by 4,5,6 or as many as 7 goals the previous season. Mitrovic has just torn up the Championship but how many chances has he had per game? Vs. how many chances he'll get next season in the Prem; there will be a huge difference. His international record as of right now is very respectable with 44 goals in 71 games... Clearly he has the ability to be a top PL striker but will he get the chances? Ivan Toney has just had an impressive (proper) debut season in the Prem 12 goals scored. If he stays at Brentford they could have a tricky second season, maybe only scores 10 goals and becomes added to this list. I think he'd be a great fit for Arsenal where he could net 15-20 goals with the extra chances he'd likely get.
I'd say it's easy to criticise strikers on goal contributions alone but half of the difficulty of tranisitioning to the Premier League is the lack of opportunities you're going to get as a striker. Promoted teams often change their entire game plans to sit deep and hit on the counter and the quality of the chances a lot of these guys were getting in the top flight were no where near as plentiful nor as high a quality as they would have previously.
Fair play for not going for Mitrovic, like the majority of people who don't seem to realise he barely played last season and that he actually hit double figures for Fulham in a poorly-assembled and struggling squad when they first returned to the top flight. He's definitely good enough for the Prem.
