7 Games That Were Secretly Judging You: Commenter Edition 

Funny thing about krampus in don't starve: you actually WANT him to spawn, because then you can pull an uno reverse card, and mug him for his sack, which is important because it has the highest capacity storage of all the backpacks!

15:35 "I'd kill you if I wasn't trying to get the best ending." This needs to be on a T-shirt.

One note about the Chrono Trigger trial sequence: if you're found innocent, you do actually get some bonus items you find in your cell.

I don’t know how you could possibly get the bad ending with Hewie in Haunting Ground. It’s so heartbreaking when you accidentally kick him and he lets out a whimper that you have to immediately praise and pet him to make up for any minor wrongdoing done to him.

10:10 "You're on the right track" when talking about trains. 13:25 "Saint Nick-All-Your-Stuff" Man, these puns are great.

I love the double -meaning of Alex's talk with Morgan at the start "I know the test is unconventional...just do whatever comes natural." It's not just what Alex probably said to Morgan at that point, but Alex talking DIRECTLY to the Typhon he's been running the genetic experiments on.

The reason why Metro Last Light begins with the "bad ending" is most likely because it is the canonical ending in the books.

One I remember catching me off guard was Dragon Age 2 where when gifting her a new shield, Aveline told me off for selling her old "special" one

A great example is Disco Elysium. While yes, Kim will judge you throughout the game, it doesn’t seem to have too much bearing on the endgame itself. _But_ when you get to your _own_ sort of tribunal you have the chance to answer for everything you did. Whether or not you reported your badge and gun missing, helping the kids start a night club, solving a different death, how much you helped Everart or not, if you let certain suspects walk free or not, etc… You can be kicked off the force, welcomed back in, and even convince Kim (or Cuno) to join you at your precinct.

I'm with a commentator on Hunting Ground. Why would you ever be mean to a dog, saving your skin?

St. Nick-All-Your-Stuff was a perfect pun, and yet another example of Andy having the perfect deadpan pun delivery.

Hewie must be praised, given all the treats, & protected at all time. It has to be impossible & absolutely heartbreaking to get the bad ending in the game because even accidentally kicking him once results in him deserving not just praise but also many treats to apologize for hurting such a good boy

15:58 i know many wouldn’t believe me but I actually did this and when I heard andy I said “what” and then andy said this, I laughed so much. You guys made my day😊

In Dragon Age: Inquisition, the game secretly tracks your responses to Leliana. If you’ve encouraged her to show mercy and not regard her agents as expendable tools, then she will obey your order to not kill a Chantry sister during her advisor quest “The Left Hand of the Divine.” This hardening/softening mechanic was around in Dragon Age: Origins but it was a bit more obvious. Notably, whether or not Leliana is hardened or softened affects the epilogue screens if she is made Divine. A hardened Leliana will be a lot more quick to kill her enemies as Divine.

I remember that one speedrun of Haunting Ground where the speedrunner fails the run because Hewie, despite being abused, refused to let the speedrunner get the bad ending. While you could say that's just the game being spiteful, I think it's cute, poor Hewie is too good a boy.

And if you're Johnny, you apologize to every dead body throughout the entire game of Prey usually by name. There should have been an achievement for that.

Lmao Andy, you actually called me out on my two pauses & a rest-stop. I hope you feel good about yourself.

I thought the Metro 2033 bad ending was canonical because that's the one that happens in the book the game is based on.

In The Witcher 3 the game silently judges all of your interactions with Ciri and it directly effects the end of the game. If you’re too hard on her, treat her poorly, or say too many wrong things she’ll straight up die.

Life is Stange 2. The game remembers if you encourage Daniel to be selfish/impulsive or moral and selfless. This record has nearly no effect on anything until the final choice, where the outcome of either option is radically altered depending on how you've taught Daniel to act.

There is a "choose your own adventure"-style app called "Choices that matter". I so far have only gone through their first story "And then the sun went out". Not only does it have multiple chapter paths depending on your choices but what I didn't know was that the whole time your AI companion was learning from and judging your decisions. In the end it depended on you setting a good example if he would help to save the world or work against you since you aren't worth saving.

A cool judgement mechanics instead of the typical morality system is the weather in Ghost of Tsushima. The further Jin goes in the Ghost path, the storms become more frequent and the ambient light become a bit darker.

I don't think you *have* to kill Dr Friedlander - I think the game just continues on if you let him go (although I'm pretty sure the "letting him go" part comes after finding out he's been selling Michael's therapy secrets to reality TV or something, so it's understandable that you'd want to take revenge). He shows up in the most recent set of missions in GTA Online so presumably Michael was canonically fine with the betrayal.

The reasoning behind the morality points in 2033 is that you're showing that Artyom is open-minded and thoughtful, sparing the innocent and learning more about the world. Thus, if you have enough Morality Points at the end, Artyom realises that he doesnt know enough about the Dark Ones to destroy them.

“Saint knick all your stuff” is a close contender for “dude where’s my jarl”

When you're so early you see the video before it goes up lol

So glad this popped up again! I clicked on it when they first uploaded and it said it was private. I was big sad. 😢

For Chrono Trigger I think you can also win the drinking contest for positive points (albeit with the cost of carpal tunnel syndrome for the trouble, that button mash is brutal). You get free Ethers for being declared innocent, the more jurors who declared you innocent, the more Ethers you get, up to 7 (which is a lot early on as they are worth quite a bit and not obtainable for a while)

Mike: "What? I'm unpredictable." Are you Mike? Are you really? There is a reason why you are the only one of the crew who has a Hitman tactic named after themselves.

In the video game adaptation of the Blair Witch Project what kind of ending you get is determined by how many cursed statues are in your possession and how many of the stick figures you have destroyed as well. The game also keeps track of your bond with Bullet the german shepard giving him dog treats praising him for good behaviour and staying close by at all times will also determine your ending as well.

Glad to see this video back up!

Andy will be pleased to know that I DID in fact pause twice, and go to the bathroom once, and was a little panicked when he called me out on it. Really enjoyed the video, guys, thanks for doing what you do!

The Chrono Trigger one ironically is one I've learned to finesse. Why? No reason, I just find it amusing when the best they can get is like one or so judges to vote guilty, and they're like, "ugh...fine hold him for a bit while we process him." It still amounts to about the same, i.e. "execution" by the chancellors order, but still it's amusing.

Hearing 5 notes of Chrono Trigger's theme... I'm now compelled to play again. It's been ages.

Ogre 64 had hidden moral point which decide ending and who can recruit to your party, also the romancing saga had hidden meter in the OG PlayStation 2 version that not only decided ending but what quests you can do and when.

Dragon Quest 8 for the PS2. When you pause the game King Trode will, every so often, judge you for the actions and progress you've done so far. Whether you go on a monster killing rampage every chance you get or to spare monsters unless absolutely necessary that warms his heart. There's also Star Wars Jedi Knight II where you actions will either turn your good or evil at a certain moment in the game.

Torment 1 & 2 also had a morality system that judged your actions throughout the game. Was a good horror series few years back.

When the best part is Andy calling you out for pausing the video twice. Damn Andy I feel called out. Though it wasn’t a bathroom break but more of everyone deciding to press my doorbell right when I’m trying to chill.

Jane really dissing our boy Crono's cut. I am shook.

Turns out Pyramid Head was the real monster all along.

I was so confused when I clicked on this video 30 minutes ago and then it was just...gone.

Now time to play spot why they re-uploaded the video😊

the prediction you made at the ending was correct. That was eerie. I wigged out for a second.

Saint Nick-all-your-stuff is the best pun I've ever heard 😄

I'm so glad you talked about Don't Starve! It's one of my favorite games! The one good thing regarding the naughtiness level is that, as it starts to get high, a strange sound starts to happen when you do "naughty" things, so at least you're getting something of a warning before Krampus comes. Because honestly, as much as you try to be good, some resources are most reliably obtained from "naughty" actions. For example, gaining Nightmare Fuel is easiest by killing trapped bunnies while insane, and I tend to need to murder a lot of birds when I want to make signs to organize my storage chests. At least, having that warning sound helps you not to overdo those sometimes necessary resource gathering tasks.

I would really love to hear you guys talk about which game got you into gaming! Not necessarily the first one you played, but the one that made you love the art form.

15:57 Oh God, you had me there for a second!😱😂

7:05 "So maybe be nice to the dog I would." Someone forgot a period on the teleprompter. 😂😂😂

This channel keeps my love and interest going up and up with the state of games nowadays

I think my favorite one of these secret judgement mechanics is in Epic Mickey, since the game doesn't entirely make it clear that you've been judged. Uh, Spoilers. You have two attacks, either paint to control enemies or thinner to destroy them. The game keeps track of which one you use more often, and when Mickey gets surprise attacked at the end of the game, he'll instinctively reach for the one you used more often, and that determines what ending you get.

Well i did pause it twice so i freaked out, but I didn't go to the bathroom so I'm getting the Good Oxending! YAY!

I paused this video twice, and on resuming the second time after visiting the bathroom, it was exactly at the point saying so. That really freaked me out!

Suikoden IV is still my suggestion. The short explanation is that killing your traitorous best friend Snowe during one of the many chances the game gives you locks you out of completing your roster of characters, thus locking you out of some upgrades to the main character's powers and the good ending. Also, (from my understanding), if you decide to be particularly unforgiving to characters during the game, (including a repeatable minigame on your ship where you judge them), the game removes the option to spare Snowe and you're forced to execute him.

That was a quick reupload

Pyramid head after cutting the cake and table in half "uh sorry guys I keep forgetting my own strength I'll uh I'll have the half that's on the floor"

Saint Nick-all-your-stuff! Love it.

It would be cool to have a game that rates your behavior across multiple axes, like it could determine that you're a bit of a dick but always do the right thing, or you're extremely pleasant and agreeable but always take every chance to get ahead at the expense of others. Lol okay I just gave myself a terrible idea: the political compass test but it's a fallout style rpg. You're welcome.

don't know if you already did shin megami tensei strange journey yet, but i remember that the dialogue option and alignment system was so complex there are full page gamefaq guides on what each dialogue option aligns to

I actually froze midstep bc I DID pause 2x and was in the bathroom when Andy said that! Lol, well done sir, well done

"Unjolly Saint Nick-all-your-stuff" is now my favorite name for Krampus

So happy to see haunting grounds on a video! Such an underappreciated gem...

Gotta toss out Code Vein again. When you make your way to the four major Successor bosses, you can find their vestiges through the area. When you defeat the boss, you cannot save them unless you've recovered all of their vestiges in the area, and there's usually 5. If you do not save any of the 4 successors that can be saved, you are locked into the worst ending where the Queen uses you to reincarnate, and you get ran through by your companion Louis, killing you and subjecting your other companions to replacing the lost successors. Code Vein doesn't tell you this is the only way to save them. Your biggest hint is that each successor has an attendant to restore their specific vestiges.

"Tries to do the right thing - poor judgment as to what that is," is my favorite of Dr. Friedlander's notes.

Man, those lights... where are you shooting this, the surface of the sun? 🤣

No Deus Ex? Those games judge you *a lot*.

A good game for third video is VAMPYR- in vampire the kind of ending you get depends on how many humans you kill - to get the best ending you can’t kill anyone but killing gives you lots of xp or blood point , something like that - also the situation in any village depends on the number of healthy persons living in it - to keep a village healthy you have to regularly treat the residents and the more you kill the unhealthier the village becomes and eventually zombies, vampires take over the village…

'Chronotrigger' sure surprised me how much influence I can have. I didn't even notice the 'Metro' points hints, and I only killed what I couldn't stealth, yet I got the bad ending. TBF, my stealthing could use improvement (for 1, I can get sorta impatient) but I didn't just rampage.

I paused the video twice and went to the bathroom for this reupload

I genuinely did pause this video twice, but not because I went to the bathroom. I was in the kitchen making my dinner instead

15:30 "Damnit Pyramid Head, that cake looked delicious. I'd kill you if I wasn't trying to get the best ending." Wasn't there a list video where Jane used those exact lines regarding Silent Hill: Downpour?

15:57 - I literally left my bedroom, pausing the video to switch to watching on my phone, to use the toilet. Then paused again in the middle of the Silent Hill entry to wash up and return to my bedroom. This was in fact startling.

Andy's welcome to horrorland shirt is amazing

I wonder if Mario uses morel points on how many mushrooms he eats?

Reupload?

Genuinely did pause it twice and went to the restroom, so I hope you feel super pleased with yourself, genuinely! I had a brief second of impressed near-panic on what sheer insanity of coding you must've done to figure out how much I paused it... before figuring it out.

If you ever make another list there are two games I would also consider: The banner saga: At the end of the third game your actions throughout the trilogy help to decide which ending you get during the discussion with Eyvind. Disco Elysium: Where at the end Kim judges your choices and moral inclinations before your police colleagues

I don't know how he knew but I actually did go to the bathroom once and pause twice. Am I locked into the bad ending now?

I brought back that little girl's cat and somehow that still counted against me...can never get a perfect "not guilty" verdict. P.S. Yes, I know that it's glitched.

I did pause the video twice and go to the bathroom, so thanks for that oddly specific call out.😂

16:07 : you paused the video twice and went to the bathroom once. (It would be really cool if someone actually did that. Me: HOW THE HELL DID YOU FIND OUT!! Are you watching me through my camera?! Well lucky you, you found that one person. Now I need to bo to the toilet again because I just shit myself! 16:24 : going to the bathroom again, taking a note of that. Me: *heart just stops out of fear* man I’m dead!

Dragon's Dogma also has a trial similar to the Chrono Trigger trial where you gets various quests that can be shortened by doing the wrong things, but you ultimately get judged guilty later on for doing so. For example, a bunch of minor quests, some which are required to complete some Story quests prior to the trial, require you to get your hand on some royal document. Those document are official document from the King that can be exchange for something without having to pay the huge amount of gold it would, otherwise, required. For example, it can be used to acquire some land to live it or exchange for the pardon for a crime or exchanged for a service like gaining citizenship for your family in the Kingdom. There's a limited number of those documents that can be found or gained in the game. Some optional quests which reward that document require you to do something relatively "bad" for a corrupted official. While, at first, it feels like you typical "Do X, Get Y. Use Y for Z and get the real reward", it ends up being an huge pain and dilemma on both the moral compass (which the game does take notice of where doing the good thing rewards you with a good reputation which gives you access to better prices, some hidden quests, etc.), but also on the reward side. The game does gives you access to 1 "free" document like that in the previously mentioned corrupted official's house as 1 of such document is laying in his house for the taking, but taking that document will bite back during your trial later as one of the crimes you committed. (And, yes, some of the quests you might have done previously for gaining the document can also bite you back at this point.) It's also possible to produce a counterfeit copy of the document for a relatively (for that part of the game) big sum of gold, but while doing so might "help" you complete the quest it's needed for, it can also not only bite you back at the trial, but also make a NPC who might gives you a quest later to just hate you and refuse to talk to you. The game offers you the ability to copy a bunch of quests item or rare items by paying for a Counterfeit Copy from a certain NPC and while it, sometimes, works in your favor (for Quest item are equipment or can be exchanged for a 2nd reward elsewhere), sometimes ends up with the NPC hating the player (refusing to speak to him/her), becoming hostile or just dying due to that nature of the Counterfeit not having any of the magical properties of the original. The game has an insane level of layering in its quests system where completing or failing a quest can result in cutting you off from accessing a line of quests later on. Counterfeit quest item sometimes allows you to get a reward for a quest, but still cut off the remaining quests as if the NPC isn't just killed, said NPC can still get in hot water (supposedly from what's told as you speak to him/her later in the game) from attempting to use the fake item instead of the original.

I literally paused it twice and went to the bathroom once while watching this one, Andy made my heart drop for a sec lmao

Just finished the video. 16:05 I went to the bathroom before I watched this video, but it was queued up next. That was too good.

Well. The pause/ bathroom thing at the end just sent me to freaky town. Thanks for that...

I paused the video at one point when I got distracted, and then just before the last game I paused for many hours during which I went to the bathroom once. I just finished the video and Andy made my heart race!

What the hell??? I DID pause the video twice, and I was in the washroom when I started the video... That's freaky, Andy. Stop that!😅

I think anyone who gets the bad ending in Haunting Ground must be going for it deliberately because otherwise how could you be mean to Hewie? :( Also I am still hilariously amazed at how bad-ass the cutscene for the dog coming to help you in RE4 is. Like, damn, they gave that dog's appearance there a glow-up.

I love it when a game I love makes the list, and I love Prey. That's a lotta love

Keep up the great work

I already think youtube is watching me! That description of how I watched this video will make me lose sleep!

oh my gosh I did pause it twice and went to the bathroom once as I was getting ready for work while watching this lmao

I did pause the video twice and go to the bathroom once - and yes, that was RATHER ALARMING when you said that

Close, I went to the bathroom and paused it once- WAIT I’m PAUSING IT TO WRITE THIS, you’re too good.

Alex Yu: "I need to know if you see us. Give me your hand if you do." *Gives foot* Alex: "Results...inconclusive"

"un-jolly Nick-all-your-stuff" 🤣Excellent. Just excellent

Ha HA Andy! I only paused once and talked to a coworker!😂

Playing a game that tracks you in a subway that's like waiting for a real subway line is "..on track". No pun intended, but I love it anyway. 😁🤣

I actually did pause twice and hit the restroom once, and damn near got a heart attack from the outro 😂

Holy crap, it took me a second to think about it, but Andy was actually right about that for me 😂 but then he claimed I was going to the bathroom again when I was just laying in bed so I was kind of just like "Oh... So you can't see me after all"

You know, I've seen that pyramid head cutting the cake scene many times in various compilation videos of things over the years but I never thought it was an actual ending. I thought it was like some meme or mod. That's hilarious.