I just think it's hilarious that Injustice evil superman was less brutal & more heroic than Snyder's regular superman hahaha, Snyder's caused 400 9-11s and acted like saving people was a burden
Starkiller from Force Unleashed learns the value of friendship and mercy, forging the way for the rebellion that would one day take down the empire... OR, you can forget all the lessons the game was hammering into your head for the last few hours and stay with the dark side to get one of the coolest outfits in video game history, the Sith Stalker Armor! All it cost you was the lives of all your friends, the fate of billions of oppressed peoples everywhere, and one of your very own arms, but just look at that rad helmet!
also, it's grafted onto you through an incredibly painful procedure, basically tortures the wearer eternally, and was only achievable because you almost died but it LOOKS SO COOL IDGAF also the lightsabers of your fallen victims on your belt is a nice touch.
obvious spoilers ahead: at the end of the game after defeating Vader you are then given a choice to either fight the emperor to save your friends (good ending, you die but everyone else lives, the rebellion is born, etc) or jump down and finish the job in killing Vader (everyone dies, you become the Emperor's new apprentice until he finds a replacement and you are grafted into sith armor to hunt down the Emperor's enemies)
How about Preston Garvey? He joined the Minutemen with the noble intention of saving post-apocalyptic Boston, but now he just tortures the Sole Survivor with an endless amount of grueling settlement quests.
Like Maxwell from Don't Starve, who went from "Super dapper 'evil' guy with ultimate power over The Constant" to "Guy who farms resources and dies in like 2 hits." Also if you're going to feature me, please refer to me as 'CoolBananas234,' because i haven't figured out how to change my name on my RU-vid account yet.
Good call. Genre characters have that bad habit of turning into extremely cruddy designs of themselves whenever they get redeemed, somewhere between boring and garish. There's certainly enough for this channel to stunt on them in a list.
Regime Superman has good reason to regulate crime, but when Lex Luthor calls him out on it, he kills him and then the twelve year old. I had enough of his cruelty at that point, so when the real Superman came in and kicked his clone's ass, I had cheered.
It's interesting how far they had to take an evil Superman to get the denser people among the game's players to understand that, yes, a Superman who establishes a dictatorial regime and executes his enemies is indeed a creature of evil, not a "badass". Even more interesting given the voice actors for _Injustice,_ the shows they're from and the Superman series arc of those shows.
Since Regime Superman's timeline is 6 years ahead of the main one, he actually killed an 18-year old Shazam. Still over the top brutal, but not nearly as horrifying.
Side note: although rubbish, Shazam is actually a 14 year old kid, Billy Batson. Superman has done plenty in the Injustice universe, but that was quite disturbing. Anyway, great video as always!
Yeah like beating Green Arrow to death, killing a Guardian by pushing him and Mogo into the sun, shooting Black Canary with a laser, setting up the murder of Alfred to force Batman to kill, and plenty more.
Superman kills a pregnant woman bearing his child and no one bats an eye... Kills Shazam, basically a copy of Superman, who happens to be a teenager while not saving the world and everyone goes crazy.
how about Skyrim were you start off as the dragonborn, saving the world from dragons, but halfway in the game you go rogue and end up killing all the residents of the nine holds?
It was nice reading the warcraft novels. All the nostalgia back when I was a kid just feels comfortable. Arthas' rise, fall, and ultimate rise in Rise of the Lich King was one of my favorites.
Superman kills a pregnant woman bearing his own child and no one bats an eye... Kills Shazam, basically a copy of Superman, who happens to be a teenager while not saving the world and everyone goes crazy.
This was basically a D.U.I. accident that ended in the death of someone, it still doesn't take the problem out, he killed his pregnant wife but no one cares because of a drug Joker made him take, for me that's worse than killing a random hero that is trapped on a boy's body.
Ragnarok Stravius Superman thought he was fighting doomsday and thusly saving the world. That act alone doesn't make him a villain. In fact, all it does it make him a tragic hero. It's his actions and attitude AFTER doing so that makes him a scumbag. He clearly sees that metropolis was a necessary sacrifice for making him "see the light." In some ways he may even be grateful to the Joker for getting rid of his need to hold back. That mindset is what makes him a villian.
Tragic hero? Okay, I never played the game, so, say, did Doomsday fight back or was he killed by something Superman already used against him? If no to the first question and yes to the second, how in the fucking hell Superman didn't feel something weird? And why of all places would Doomsday attack him of his home, I don't think Doomsday has a gps and, correct me if I'm wrong, sense of ambush.
Slade Wilson I don't know too much about injustice, so I could still be incorrect but I do know that Captain Marvel was renamed to Shazam. I don't know whether or not the wizard is still called Shazam. But the transforming child/god is now called Shazam.
But Wheatley didn't change when he "became evil". Still the same bumbling idiot, just with more ability to carry out his insane schemes that don't work out.
I'm fairly certain Solas isn't the avatar of the Dread Wolf, he IS the Dread Wolf, the myth was created about him. Being the last true elf that can live forever and all.
Depends on god. A mythical, immortal, "out of this world" being, an embodiment of an idea or faith, could reincarnate, posses or whatever, creating an avatar.He could then have multiple avatars throughout ages. Other "versions" of gods are "just" very powerful beings, perhaps immortal, and would have a single body. So, not an avatar. (This is just in general, I have no idea hod gods work in Dragon Age.)
@@QuestForCinnamon Elven gods are fake. Solas said so himself in Trespasser. Those were elven mages, very powerful and immortal, but still not supernatural beings.
Sel Yuna with the elven gods fake I wonder now if the humans gods are real or the dwarfs order of the stone, is actually true, I won't explain but my thought is that the dwarfs are right.
call of duty: black ops. somehow managing to crawl your way out of a tight tunnel that is collapsing and directly after that, jumping about two-three meters to the rescue helicopter (which, miraculously enough, does not get shot down)
@@OhNoTheFace He's twelve when he first gets his powers and the events of Injustice are set five-and-a half years after the nuclear blast that destroys Metropolis and sets off the events in the game. Depending on how close he was to his birthday when he got his powers and how long he had been Shazam prior to the blast, on the absolute low end he's seventeen pushing eighteen. More likely, he's eighteen or nineteen, or recently turned twenty. None of that changes the fact that his is the saddest death in the game, but my point stands that he's a young adult, not a child.
Solas wasn't a villain, he just miscalculated over the mcguffin blowing up the Temple of Sacred Ashes. In the DLC that was the actual ending of the game (and thanks for that, EA), it's revealed that the "elven gods" the Dread Wolf tricked in Dalish mythology were actually regular elves who ruled the elven people with an iron fist. He was actually a freedom fighter. Plus he looks like a nug.
Solas is presented as a genocidal maniac. He wants to eliminate entire races of intelligent beings to meet his goal. There's this real problem with sci-fi/fantasy fans where whichever character does more talky exposition about a character's actions gets taken at their word. Since for villains, that's usually the villains themselves, you end up with fans who can't read the character accurately.
@@Thy_Boss it also (it's been years now) depends on how close Solas and your Inquisitor were. A lot of dialog was different enough to make what makes an anti-hero (not saying Solas was one, just that we have information that is thousands of years old from either myths or second hand sources) in one line makes him a villain if worded differently. I romanced Anders _hard_ because of Awakening. If you don't understand why he hates the way mages are treated, and his backstory, and you don't go the route for his character to stop and consider what he's doing, he absolutely comes across as a madman. That Solas essentially is also an Eldritch Abomination on par with something like a Time Lord (particularly Eleven who is violent as all get out and now _that_ is a bit of hero worship media that is never talked about) who exists beyond the mortal kin of any current race in Thedas doesn't help. If Solas has no reason to understand and sympathize with creatures that aren't spirits, why should he take the time when the last time god-like beings clashed it ended… (presumably from what he himself said) poorly for him.
Solas BROKE MY HEART. It was the first Dragon Age game I had ever played and of COURSE I ROMANCED HIM. I'm so sad but I'm so excited to see how the next DA game plays out with him as the villain (hopefully!)
Solas definitely isn't a hero, but he's at least trying to redeem himself for destroying the elven culture. Whether or not he's doing it in the right way is yet to be seen. He might just have too much power to know how to properly use it. There's also the possibility that he doesn't see the modern Dalish and city elves as his people, due to how different they are from the elves he remembers, so sacrificing thousands of them, along with humans, dwarves and qunari, is worth it in the long run to restore the Elvhenan to its former glory.
Technically we have no proof that is what he is going to do. Solas is always ambiguous. He says "Even if this world must die," and "die in comfort," he also makes a lot of assumption, which is one of his largest failings. The only thing we know for sure is that he wants to tear down the veil, but we have no idea of what this will actually mean. Solas might simply assume that the world we know as Thedas, will be unable to adapt to spirits running around freely and magic being literally everywhere. Considering how the average person in Thedas feels about magic, it seems like a realistic theory that most will go on a bloody rampage and get themselves killed or possessed in the process. Solas actions will most likely lead to death on a massive scale, but it is not what he wants and he isn't technically the ones to slaughter them.
What ultimately makes Solas a complicated character is that when he's good friends with the inquisitor, he welcomes the fact that he may be wrong on that account just as how the inquisitor had proven him wrong before. He's like a way more reasonable and less-militant version of General Zodd tbh.
Jason Todd, becoming the Arkham Knight. He got a cool suit, a sweet voice modulator, and an entire army to follow his every command. Including Deathstroke! And no, Red Hood doesn't count as a villain, hence why I chose him as the Arkham Knight.
Oh please, like we didn't see that reveal coming. 20 minutes in the game as the Arkham Knight he calls Batman "old man"... If that's not a dead giveaway I don't know what is.
But I didn't say the reveal wasn't obvious. All I said was he looked cool and all that. Don't know where you plucked that from- if you read my original comment, it had nothing to do with his reveal be obvious or not.
How about super Andy? He finally became corrupted by the influence of Jane and attempted to destroy the earth only stopped by Ellen and her strange, strange noises
Arthas was one of the best good guy turn bad heroes in my childhood. Honestly, 10/10 would follow him even after he became the Lich King. What's better than skeleton army? A skeleton horde. Respect~
That title "7 Good Guys Who Became Bad Guys, Much Cooler" is weird to the ear to say. I think it should be "7 Good Guys, Who Were Much Cooler As Bad Guys" or "7 Good Guys, Who Were Much Cooler When Bad".
Ian Bailey Yeah. Jason Momoa is a Beast. He's gonna Rock the Role. But honestly in the first Injustice Game alone Aquaman showed nothing but Competence and how Powerful He is. In the first Game He was the only one who figured out all by himself that Superman went bonkers. The other got briefed by Batman. Also in this Game He Fights and wins against a Dozen of Atlantean Soldiers, Flash the fastest Man Alive, Shazam Earths mightiest Mortal and Ares the actual God of War. Sometimes I don't understand why People think of him as a Joke.
not to mention he controls the ocean and its dwellers which covers more than half of the earth. That alone is cool and sorta terrifying when you think about how much we dont know about the ocean
i think the problem is the suit, as it is said "the clothes makes the man", I myself didn't like aquaman before playing Injustice, but he was the one i was better at controlling so this redeemed him for me.
Yuuji 優二 Kurogane 黒鉄 Well I can understand why His Suit is troubling but honestly I think it is very Iconic. Also there are many recent Interpretations of his Suit wich Look cooler. Like the New52 Version from Ivan Reis. Like I said I can understand why People dislike the Costume because the risk that it will look Bad is bigger than the Chance that it will look great. I Hope I make Sense. I also like the Version on my Profile Pic. It was a Commision from a Artist on Instagram
yeah, there are some good versions of his suit, the one that will be used on the movies is also one of them, it is just that the most well known one becomes the reference.
How about, 7 times non-stealth games decided to throw a stealth section in? My vote is for The Witcher 2: Assassin's of Kings, the stealth wasn't impossible, but then again the game's movement was designed to prance around monsters, not stick to walls and attempt to sneak up on someone.
ehdollet How about the Halo series? They send you on 'stealth' and 'recon' missions with a sniper rifle that is one of the largest guns in the game. The 26th century doesn't have any form of silencer?
ehdollet Zelda games. The Gerudo Fortress in Ocarina of Time, the Forsaken Fortress in Wind Waker, Eldin's Eruption in Skyward Sword, and the Yiga Clan Hideout in BotW
Having Superman on the list is cool, but Supergirl went from girl next door to Goth Queen in the comics. I don't think you can have a cooler "Evil Alt" skin than that. Wesker: "Jill... So, you're safe." Jill: "That's what I was going to say." Can we take a mo' and consider how different the dialogue would have been if Jill talked first? Jill: "Jill... So, you're safe." Wesker: "...Took the words right out of my mouth."
Are we going to ignore the fact that in the last expansion of StarCraft 2 Kerrigan pretty much ascends god-status and irreversibly alters the fate of the universe with her actions? Also I'm surprised there was no mention of Wheatley from Portal 2. While still amusing as a clumsy companion he is an amazing antagonist who's occasional stupidity makes him all the better.
Well Sarah wasn't technically "evil" as the queen of blades. The zerg as a whole aren't necessarily "evil" when you really think about it. I mean come on, the humans were lead by a corrupt monster and the zerg were lead by a woman just wanting vengeance after said corrupt monster supposedly killed her boyfriend.
@@Thy_Boss That's the issue with the concept of 'Good' and 'Evil' Let's take Skyrim as an example. For the Legion, you're good if you murder Stormcloaks, and evil if you murder Imperial Soldiers. For the Stormcloaks you're good if you murder Imperial Soldiers and evil if you murder Stormcloaks. See what i'm getting at? In your run-off-the-mill RPG you're the Hero and the Good Guy if you murder the Goblins in the forest. For the Goblins you're a mass murdering buttface.
I feel like they could've included choose your morality game characters like Corvo/Emily from Dishonored and the Infamous guys. Because let's face it, it's always a lot cooler and more fun going around killing everyone you see.
From my personal experience, I have to disagree with Dishonored. Sure, you can go in with a sword and pistol, leaving just a bloody mess on the floor, but it´s much cooler (and satisfying) to pick off all the guards one by one, making the target disappear, and in the morning everyone just wakes up with a headache and no clue as to what the hell happened. (Non-lethal stealth.)
Arthas was correct about his decision in stratholme, If anything, Jaina and Uther's decision to abandon him was the tipping point that made him look for another solution. That city was already corrupted, and if he didn't do anything, that would've merely joined malganis's army. This is the type of difficult decision that a king is forced to make for the betterment of the majority of his people, yet he was condemned. No wonder he became a loner and chose another path. If jaina, at the very least, had stayed behind to help him, he probably wouldn't have chosen to make the final decisions in regards to frostmourne. Hell, he may have even avoided northerend, but who knows.
Superman kills a pregnant woman bearing his child and no one bats an eye... Kills Shazam, basically a copy of Superman, who happens to be a teenager while not saving the world and everyone goes crazy.
difference is, he didn't willingly kill Lois. That was Joker using modified Scarecrow fear toxin to make him hallucinate that Lois was Doomsday. You know, the guy who Supes can only stop by killing, and who comes back afterwards immune to that way of being killed.
It's worse because most of the time childs are more innocent and can't protect themselves. People tend not to give a fuck about harm to bad guys, because they deserve everything. But kids don't. That saying, Shazam wasn't a kid 100% because he lived life of an adult and, basically, law enforcer, and he should knew the risks.
So, who else thinks Sarah Kerrigan isn't actually a bad guy? Having played both expansion games for Starcraft 2, Kerrigan is actually trying to do good, just not in a normal way.
I like Superman's legitimately and unironically good attitude. I like batman as well but I got sick of how his success made everyone want every comic to go fucking grimdark
Batman wasn't always like this. He actually had a personality. It wasn't until Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns that Batman turned into this edgy, brooding, boring, "My parents are dead!" character.
+Chad Benjamin There shouldn't be anything wrong with brooding and edgy. The problem is that it's overdone now, and Superman's type of simply doing good for the sake of good is now boring or even controversial. What a great lesson that is. I mostly just have Superman TAS as a point of reference but I friggin' love the guy. He does everything in his power to help those in need and fight injustice. Batman isn't a polar opposite but he's often resorting to questionable means. To be honest, Superman feels like the most human and realistic super hero DC has to offer. Too bad people want to read about drama queens so he's more "interesting" when he's evil.
fusiontoa18 And who may I ask is more realistic than Superman? Super paranoid loner yet friends with everyone and is also superior to all with no powers at all and infinite money? Please. You get powers like Superman and you'll likely act like him. That's why he's human and realistic. It's Batman that's a power fantasy.
Arthas was a very interesting story. Sadly, most of it isn't even in Warcraft 3, why he did what he did... And Kerrigan? Boy I liked her and Jimmy... the whole story arc was great, until the very end of SC2 tbh
A bit of a grey area that one, I think. As far as I can remember, he never openly showed to share the Templar views of controlling everything, he was just trying to stop the assassins' from causing more calamities. Although you were "allowed" to kill civilians in the game, it was never required in the story, he stuck to most of the assassins' code and just stopped anyone who was taking innocent lives. I'm not sure he ever became a "bad guy"
I know the Templars are the bad guys but he found out the group he devoted his life to caused an earthquake and shrugged it off almost, seeking other of those items (I forget the name, I know they weren't apples of eden) that cause earthquakes. when he tries to explain, achillies doesn't listen at all to anything he has to say so I think in this game, the assassins' do give of a kind of 'bad guy' vibe. Plus, you get to stop crime gangs around new York and the atlantic and free prisoners of war which are hardly bad guy actions. that's why I said I think it's a grey area, he's not a clear cut bad guy, but he has taken the side of the bad guys of the series but only to stop the assassins' taking more innocent lives. I think it's just how you view it really, you can argue both sides
True, some good guys should simply never be turned evil just for the sake of OMG plot twist! It's like John Connor from the Terminator movies. He's the quintessential pillar of good around which the whole series revolves, then that turd Genisys is like LOL he's evil now because... because... oh yeah, that never got explained and never will after that movie went down like a lead balloon.
I think the real terrible part of it was it wasn't even a surprise. They literally spend the entire game right from the beginning telling you she's gone off your rails & off onto another track. Not even the characters, not even Master Chief himself is mislead even for a second, and that's the guy who had her inside his head for four whole games. Then again, the whole "Hunt the Truth" marketing was probably the whole facade in the first place as that almost amounted to bugger all (Apart from a single encounter that's not even laughable how contrived it is).
I would say that the overlord (from the original overlord) would be a good pick. he was originally the eight hero who fell quite a distance and all your goody friends decided to pillage the overlord's tower instead. Even though you were more a device in the old overlord's plan, you do get a snappy suit and a tower out of it, even though the tower needs some DIY.
Gabriel Belmont from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow? God's chosen warrior who sent satan back to hell then becomes Dracula and a raging tyrant. How is that not on this list!?
I can't believe Andy went through the entire Albert Wesker entry and not once say that Wesker looks like he came third place in a Val Kilhmer look-alike contest
Come on OutsideXbox. You can’t forget Siegfried becoming Nightmare at the end of Soul Edge. From that point forward, Nightmare has essentially been the mascot for the Soul Caliber series, even after splitting from Siegfried in SC3.
Aw what? No Revan from KOTOR 1? I mean come on, he WAS a villain then the Republic made him into a good guy then if you want to you can go back into a bad guy, confusing I know but he still qualifies for this list.
And even in KOTOR 2 the skins and abilities were amazing. I did not like the cracked skin look though. But it was worth it to focus all on force powers/force lightning.
Yeah he was already cool, but becoming evil made him even cooler, if you've played SWTOR, the spiritual successor of KOTOR, and done the Shadow of Revan expansion you get to see him being even more of an evil badass.
srbindy Baldinger I haven't played tor, I actually hate what they did to Revan in the game and also in the book, they completely ruined his character imo, made him into a puppet of the emperor, instead of being the feared and respected general that he was in kotor, the one who fell spontaneously to the darkside in order to use the star forge, conquer the galaxy and prepare everyone to fight the true sith empire.
Edgy is better than boring, especially when the other characters notice and make fun of it. There's not too much information on pre-Talon Reaper, but he seemed boring.
Furious Hunter if you played attention from the audio logs from bl2 he was evil from the beginning he lead the original vault hunters to the vault with the destroyer through Angel
None of this actually showed why Cortana was evil. I had to dig into the lore to find out that she EMPs a whole planet minutes after saying nobody who listens will be struck by weapons. Then again I should've known, she _is_ a Microsoft product.
When I saw Warcraft III on the list my first thought was that elf guy. I think his name was Ilidan? Of course he was kind of an anti-hero to begin with, but turning into a demon to save the world was pretty cool.
