As someone who carried only a driver and 3 wood for 30 years, I learned that adding a 5 and 7 wood has made longer shots easier and golf more fun. The 3 and 4 iron are now in the retired club bag.
I joined the 7wood club a few years ago, my 3,4 iron are like yours retired, I take them to the range occasionally just to keep my swing with them. But when I play its definitely 7 and 5 wood. Last Sunday I was inches from an eagle putt, thanks to my 7w giving me a great second shot. I happily settled for birdie on a 520 yard par 5.
I have 3W and now 7W, but on fitting for the 7W hit a few 5W and I can see this replacing the 3W with a custom fitting. It went just as far but slightly easier to hit. Plus the Titleist model could have lie adjusted as well as loft.
I like how all these launch monitors get 30 or 40 yards of run out. None of the courses I play ever get run out like that and in fact most of the time you're lucky to get a yard
Been gaming a 3 Hybrid as the rough near me is thicker at times and the smaller sole allows me to chop down on it more. Also the lower apex is good not to be smashed by the wind in valleys/hilltops. Also it's been less powerful than by 5 wood keeping a nice 5i-3h-5w gap. Just need a 3w now to sort of complete the top end of the bay
That’s exactly what I do 👍… Do yourself a favor and look at a mini driver as a 3 wood. I did and now I’ll never go back… May not be for you but worth a try
I went from a 2H and 3 iron to a 7 wood and extra wedge last year and was the best thing I've done for my bag in a long time. I'm a 0.5 and didn't have too much issue with the 3iron. But just can't compare to the booters that the 7 wood can produce out of damn near anywhere. Goes high, but not too high. Hell of a tool.
I played a 7 wood 3 wood last year and switched to 21 degree hybrid and 18 degree 5 wood this year. I like the lower trajectory of the hybrid and I hit it further on miss hits than a 7 wood. The 7 wood off the T is a dud for me compared to a 5 wood honesty. Great comparison , your knowledge is much appreciated, I have gone to KBS graphite in hybrid and love it !
7 wood just too spinny off the peg for ya? How about if you tried to flight it down? Just too hard to control? I like where you're at, you sound sorted
@@trottiegolf I guess it is kinda spinny of the tee , nice on long 3 pars but I just don’t play that many. I definitely am inconsistent with that 7 wood flighting it down, it is an early PXG that was set up draw bias and I have a draw after some swing changes. The hybrid is a titleist set to B1 ,
@@IronDrummer91 ball further back and cover the ball. Not an issue skillset to learn. Shorter shaft in the wood is a good start point BUT keep on top of the swing weight
@@trottiegolf Thanks - I'll need this shot with my 3 and 5 wood as windy season is picking up in the UK. I do have a 4 hybrid and a 7 wood on rotation, be excited to get this to work on 7 wood too.
I have never gotten along with hybrids. I have loved using 7 woods last 4 years or so. Game changer for long par 4s, 5s and the occasional long par 3. I do, however, I play mine almost 1 inch short of the new standard
Another great installment. I'm definitely going the 7 wood next purchase to gap fill 4I to 3W. I just can't put a hybrid down and think anything good is going to happen as they just have "bad shot coming" written all over them. I just look down and ask "so what are you supposed to be?"
I have used both 7 wood and hybrid. I really want to love a 7 wood but my numbers and flight are better with a hybrid. Now I use a 19*. QI10 hybrid and waiting for my 25*
Appreciate its not for everyone, but it’s a hybrid all day long for me. With the right setup, it gives you the chance to hit a shot like a 3 iron or the 7 wood.
I haven’t played enough in the last few years to justify new clubs but if I was getting g back to more frequent play this is probably the set up I’d be gaming.
7w + 25 hybrid for me as a slower swinger brings in GIRs that I wasn't making with a 4hybrid and 5i (they didn't 'launch' enough and cut too much on worse swings)
I went from someone who played EXTREMELY conservative on par 5 approach. If I couldn’t get there with 5i I laid up. I hated hybrids. Couldn’t stop a driving iron on a green. Now after putting 7 wood in the bag I probably hit as many greens from 230 as I do with a 7iron.
i like the descent angle of a 7 wood. A 4H can run out between 20-40 yds, potentially leading into hazards or bad lies. A 7W sticks the landing where I want it to go.
I just got a 7 wood and hit it for the first time yesterday. Night and day for me over a hybrid....and I like hybrids. I don't know why, but it was amazingly easy to hit. After roughly 30 shots, all....I repeat, all were within a 10-15 yard diameter. Why? I'm not sure. I can't explain it. High and long 215-220 out.
Love my 7 wood, really easy to hit for a 200 yard shot. Super versatile, can be hit out of rough too. Can’t seem to hit it off the tee, just spins too much. Would you recommend carrying an 18 degree hybrid that would produce a lower ball flight off the tee? Would be useful for shots into wind
I have 3-5 hybrids but sometimes use 5wood in place of 3H when and 5i in place of 5 hybrids depending on wind or tightness of fairways. Btw, I just found out Freddy couples longest iron is a 6i. From there he has hybrids and wood. For us no pro, I think we should all consider copying his bad.
There were a lot of sales pitches in the early days of hybrids but the most common one was to use them as an iron replacement. But the truth was only Mizuno with their Fli-Hi and Tour Edge with their Iron woods actually made true iron replacements hybrids. Everyone else chased distance as their customers wanted that. So in almost every other brand you got a club that was easier to get in the air for most golfers compared to their long irons but a good club or three longer. That equals sales which is what matters to a manufacturer. Hybrids kept getting longer both in terms of distance and, unfortunately, shaft length until are about as difficult to hit consistently as a 5 or 7 wood so why not go with something (7 wood) that gets in the air even easier, stops more quickly and is more forgiving on low-in-the-face strikes? Pros and other high swing speed players started switching to higher lofted woods because the extra loft gave them the distance control they needed while still delivering a full swing and stopping on a dime compared to hybrids that kept going too far and not stopping quickly enough.
Now compare them out the rough? That’s where the hybrid takes over, loses points in forgiveness and height but gains points in versatility. I don’t really see the 7 wood as a legit 3 iron replacement like a hybrid can be since it’s extremely difficult to hit out the rough.
How much do I have to pay to do a full all out fitting with Trottie? I’m legit a HUGE Taylormade fan and an even bigger Trottie fan! On my bucket list up at #1 is to get a full fitting with Trottie at The Kingdom! For reference I’m a 3 handicap and have never been fully fit for clubs in my life, I think it could take my game to scratch.
For sticking greens with a HYB or 7 wood what is your target decent angle and spin? I am swinging about 100 mph club speed, 3,300 spin and 38.5 land angle with my 3 HYB. Should i look into a 7 wood?
Love my 7 wood so much. My Dad passed his on to me because he couldn't gel with it. Has become my favourite club, so versatile. It's a 22 degree, but I've lofted it down a little. I also play an 18 degree 3 Hybrid, and like having that in the tool kit for those thicker lies.
Players distance cavity irons works just as good as hybrids for me. Irons give me better dispersion than my hybrids. Hybrids give me slightly better height which is easier to hit
This is similar to what I have experienced. I get a better more consistent dispersion with a game improvement iron, like a Callaway X20 for instance. Distance is about 10 years less than the same lofted hybrid, but more consistent and a better dispersion with the irons. I am gaming a 7 wood and playing with the hybrids to fill he gap. My irons now start at a 6 iron.
@trottiegolf I'd love to see that! I play Srixon irons, but the equivalent of a 770 P-6i, 790 5i, and QI10 in the 4 iron as a utility iron/driving iron. Very interested in your thoughts on that.
Curious if you shortened the shaft and if so how much? Also what weight shaft did you end up in? I have the QI10 max 7w cause I prefer the shallower head of the max, but like an idiot I bought it off the rack and I hate the shaft. Not a big deal cause I have shafts I can install, but I’ve been debating on cutting the length down a 1/2”. Seems like a common thing with all my woods. Wether it’s driver, 3w , whatever… I always feel best at - 1/2”
I've been considering getting a 7 wood and I've hit a few and really like them, my fitter recommended 1/2 inch bigger due to height (6,2) & wrist to floor at 38. I haven't gone through with the purchase just yet as I'm seeing a lot of people mentioning a shorter length is advantageous. Would you recommend me going shorter, if so Trottie, what would you recommend? I'm not seeing a fitter now due to travelling but I'd like to try pick one up.
I liked that 41.50" , you're taller than me so go for what TM offer as standard which I believe is 41.75" (don't quote me). I would not go longer than 42" EOG
I don't think I could get rid of my hybrid. It's my most dependable club and most versatile. I use it when I need a stinger in the trees to keep the ball down and below the trees. I can't do that with a 7 wood.
I currently have a gap In my bag, I hit my driving iron 22.5° 210 rolls to 225 and then straight to 3 wood which is 245 carry to 260ish depending on tee vs deck, I’m wanting a club that carries 220-230 and stops quite quick as it’s the perfect club into both par 5’s at my course, so would you say a 7 wood over a 19° hybrid?
That's the whole reason for the vid. You gotta look at your data and numbers and make that call. Either can work based on player preference and profile. Keep in mind at some point there will be a slight gap dependent on the amount of wedges you carry. 7 wood well worth a look though and test it alongside the hybrid. Dive into this vid too (if you haven't already) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yeJopwH_T6w.htmlsi=b7ac6naKnVBrYfjx Spurs icon would indicate you live in UK so watch that peak height as weather can result in a lower ball flight being more desirable..... that points to rescue BUT hard summer conditions points to 7 wood. As I always say: "your set needs to be viewed as a squad of players, you don't run them all out each week but certain games (courses) require certain players)
@@trottiegolf yeah UK mate, I only have 13 clubs in the bag at the minute so the gap is easily filled, will have to book a gapping session at the range and hit both, but as you know with England, I might as well gear up for worse weather rather than the 2 weeks of summer 😂. Class act as always Trottie, appreciate the reply mate. Love the content brother.
Just me but a hybrid is better from the rough. That being said just get a high launching 5 wood like my Taylormade Sim2. You can open it up or choke down on it if you want and it stops on a green like an iron. Now you have a 5 wood and a 3 hybrid (have a 4h also). Problem solved 😎
PDHY was too big on the looks and didn't fly as high as the rescue I had. PUDI I liked but too close to my 3 iron so I opted for the P770 3i over that. Both PUDI and PDHY are good clubs but we're into personal preferences at the point where I opted out.
Thumbs down to TaylorMade shaft offerings. Can’t get a 90g shaft in any “wood”… which anyone north of 110SS is likely going to require in a 7wd. TM appears to be bottlenecking stronger players to ultra premium shaft up charges, from 3rd party distributors.
Why would you not just use a 3 iron? You can get plenty of height on it if you have above 90 mph swingspeed with your driver and the consistency of a 3 iron is unmatched. Anything above a 5 woods or hybrids are not made for players who have above 90mph swingspeed
Pretty sure it’s like 25% of PGA players have a 7 wood now. Theegala plays a 9 wood. Not sure why you think the 90 mph is the deciding factor. Players know how to hit different shots.
@@callumwells agreed I think all options should be considered for every player I just disagree with the premise that above average swing speed should always = iron. So many more factors go into consideration.
That's nowhere near enough speed. 100mph with a 3 iron and then it's a possibility. The greens on tour are so fast, you need land angle. Plus, the fairway wood is so much more forgiving.