Every time these influencers talk about themselves being "high value, alpha males," I think of Tywin Lannister's quote, "Any man who goes around saying he is a king, is no true king." 😂
It's the truth xD you can tell what kind of manchild those two are (fresh and fit) who weren't cool enough in school now trying to bullshit their way to look alpha
I'll do the same thing you do - Abba and Preach fans only talk sh!t about other people they dislike. So how easy it is to make low IQ takes with minimal information? So in your galaxy brain, the superchats are immediately reflective of all their viewers 🤦♂
Hey , let them profit . Its crazy how these days one can profit by purposefully feeding people negative emotions and experiences without giving solutions
Also, those dudes pay like $100 just to get their chat read by Fresh or Fit cause they lack so much social interaction IRL yet they'll call dudes who pay for OF simps. I would never pay for OF but I would certainly pay for OF any day of the week before paying money just to get my words heard by some dude that hosts a podcast. That's even worse simp behavior.
For real… now I get donating if you truly want to see an inspiration of yours succeed and grow but no these dudes pay a hundred dollars to get their lame joke seen and pray for some recognition
@@ricovee9715 yup i never paid for sex nor to watch it.....at least the white cucks who watch and paid for interracial porn are not only honest about it, they arent shitting on them same women
How tf do these guys go and insult these women, then turn around and spend thousands on her? At least be consistent one way or the other. They dunk on women for have "zero accountability," but they got ZERO INTEGRITY
The OBVIOUS truth is that they're not the same men. It's not the guys "dunkin'" on them in chat that are subbing, it's the silent maj-... well not majority, but a lot of simps. These days, there's at least ten simps to every man with a spine or some common sense.
They're mad because they know those chicks would never sleep with guys like them in a million years, but they still want to hit it, and they're still desperate for female attention.
There is just more awareness of it. The internet lets you see how much of something is going on more than was available pre-internet. Before the internet, you were aware of what you saw with your own eyes, what someone told you in person or over the telephone, what you saw on one of a few news channels, the newspaper, or read in books that you had to go find and then read yourself. Don't get distracted from who YOU are, being yourself, and doing what you need to do by becoming too aware of how much negativity there is out there. Awareness of negativity can lead you to complain about the negativity, thereby becoming that exact negativity yourself which someone else will become aware of and complain about, leading to other people complaining about their complaining. Be an example of positivity so that while you're bettering yourself, others will see it and want to do what you're doing, and then other people will want to be positive like them as well, and on and on and on from there. Positive polarity inspires positivity, negative polarity inspires negativity. You are energy, expend yourself wisely!
Nothing wrong with simps. Own it. A lot of women looking for a relationship want a simp they find attractive (keywords; they find attractive. A lot of these guys don’t even go for women on their level). It’s those fucking losers and rich dorks that pay for that fake online shit, basically rewarding degeneracy just to get a nut on BY THEIR OWN HAND. Crazy it happens on a massive scale.
@@BillyMurray-hw2vz Redpill says go to the gym. You can have the biggest, most bulging muscles but it won't matter if you don't look inwards first and foremost and reflect on who you are as a person. Recognizing your own flaws is the first step towards betterment.
Paying fresh and fit hundreds of dollars in superchats and donations is literally worse than dudes paying for onlyfans. At least the onlyfans guys are simping for women.
I would assume they paid for the advice they give on helping men and I think there is nothing wrong with that. I don't watch f n f. I don't know what advice they give these men but i rather pay someone who gives me good advice over a girl for just sitting there being a 304. Plus I don't understand why these simps are paying money when there is free stuff online. These dudes paying are also older men with money. Some married and thats sad how down these guys are.
Because at the end of the day, they’re just desperate coomers who pretend they’re not because they make fun of those types of people and claim they’re ~high value men~ … those three words as their labels are their magical words to dismiss it all. It suddenly makes it all better lol, and all the coomers they get to simp for them and fall into their backwards ass way of thinking end up believing it, as well. Just a bunch of horny dudes ass patting each other and telling them how high value they are….
For any Fresh and fit fans that think that these guys actually care about men answer me this, why do fresh and fit pay girls to come on their show (pay for their flights, transportation, hotels/airbnb, pay for their meals, sometimes even buy them gifts) but the only time they let their fans/subscribers to come to the show it was when some patreon members paid fresh and fit $500+ I believe (and had to pay for their own accommodations to come down to miami) and those guys only got to watch the show in person, not even be on the show. Fresh and fit literally simp and give money to women, and then get their fans to simp and give money to them so they can spend that money on women.
I think they've already used that "girls on the yacht" example to explain it. I think even Destiny said the same thing... he doesn't pay (outside of hotel sometimes) to appear on those shows. FNF guests being value (the women and the male guests). But the fans bring no damn value whatsoever, that's why they pay.
Icy said they never paid for any of the girls expenses to appear on the shows. They only paid the special guests expenses. All the girls that come on the show already live in Florida or visiting Florida from out of town.
The "Redpill" already lost it's meaning years ago, the people who are pushing it nowadays are the same people you where warned to avoid by the original redpill people. They're not "redpill" they're grifters, just latching on to whatever social phenomenon gets them clicks in that moment.
Need a new term that’s less “toxic” because I think there is potential to make better men by teaching them about human nature and what NOT to do in relationships.
That’s not true. I checked Reddit convos between red pillers and they believe in the same shit. The only difference is red pillers now believe in hustle culture.
fr, I miss the old redpill content, but they've mostly been thrown off of youtube a few years ago. Now all that's left are a bunch of grifters and PUAs that only parrot watered down talking points from the wiser og rellpillers. smh
This is literally the guy who likes a girl in grammar or high school but is too ashamed to admit it so he clowns her publicly, but sings her praises in secrecy.
@@sportyj bro lol i had friends like that ....i remember one dude literally was shitting on his homeboy for dating a "whore" that he was banging smh... thats another thing, these redpill dudes like that dude shitting on my boy then fucking the same chick is another tactic theyre doing...they want to make sure theyre the only men to have the "hoes" and women, so they bad mouth women as a way to keep the men theyre grifting to stay away from them as aba said in this video
I'd rather have a woman who's a natural "6" than a fake "10". Set's a bad precedent as a Role-model were I to have a Daughter. I'll take the woman who has enough self-esteem NOT to get carved up and injected with plastic/poisons in an effort to pander to a toxic society.
@@TheJoungRed Positive reinforcement of self-esteem is essential with youth, but it's essential that it's built upon their strength of character, their choices, and actions, not on their appearance. The main reason for this is that if you build a person's self-esteem on their looks, and something happens that scars them, that superficial self-esteem vanishes. Alternatively, destroying self esteem based on character, choices, and actions is much harder to destroy, if at all.
Its been since ages. Men act all high and mighty and then go ahead and simp for these women. If men didn't do that there wouldn't been working girls and prostitution would have been outdated by now.
Most women find a lot of men unattractive, therefore prostitutes fill that gap, since men face a lot of rejection and get friendzoned. You would be surprised how many men would be virgins if escorts and prostitutes didn't exist.
That last part hit really hard. The fact that there are women now with mess up beauty standards and want to achieve this quasi-influencer facade because men (and other women) are only giving attention to these damaged overly-superficial, materialistic women (and vice versa) is crazy. It really is the catch 22 of our generation. I hope that people start self-improving from the inside with actual attainable goals and not go to these phony channels to desire dreams and lifestyles that are only going to chew them up and spit them back out. Shalom
Two things though: 1. I'd venture to say that the vast, vast majority still have no problem getting men. I don't know any men that have a hard requirement for booty AND titties AND lips. In fact, I know no men who like fake lips. If a girl looked around her social circle, there's likely more than one guy that would gladly take her as his girlfriend. 2. Male desire has always been two-pronged: we'd fuck any girl that's hot, but settle down with any girl that's beautiful. Following hoes on Instagram is an extension of hotness, which has little impact on whom you'd settle down with.
I thought women did these things for themselves? That’s what they’ve claimed in regards to make-up, surgery, dressing provocatively etc. So when there are negative consequences they can’t suddenly backtrack and say they did it because men were giving attention to a certain type of woman. You did it for yourself apparently, so own it.
Except men are not giving attention to only those types of women. If a woman values a huge quantity of male attention, instead of one man’s quality attention, then that’s fine. Those people are on the same level.
Make up your mind, one day it's because of men why women do this and the next day it's not because of men why women do the same exact thing. Modern feminism has nothing to with equality, it's about comfortability for all the bad decisions women make. No accountability whatsoever
The red pill movement is so sad. I would feel bad for them if they weren't so cruel. I have had plenty of truly lonely periods of my life but it never occurred to me to blame anyone else. The entitlement that requires is astonishing.
Do you believe that the way average men are treated in western family courts and life is equitable and fair? There are two types of red pill men. Those trying to get their peen touched, and those who care about their fathers, brothers, uncles, and friends and are trying to protect them from a culture which is openly hostile towards them.
@@AWeeCuntfromLiverpool what does being real even mean, that isnt like a thing. If youre just being rude or hurtful to someone the other person isnt at fault for cutting you off.
@@lawrence4301 That is "like, a thing“. I'm not referring to being hurtful just to be hurtful. I'm referring to things like saying you won't go outside dressed like a cheap prostitute being called rude or hurtful.
At least all the others contribute something to society. I can't wait for 20 years later when we can all aggressively remind these garden equipment of what they did.
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 ur waiting 20 years for women you don’t know to be reminded of something they choose to do and made money from… FOUND ONE 👮♀️ 🫵🚔
@@Make_Me_A_Sandwhich some people have been doin that for years already and can now enjoy it 💪🏽 Can't keep building your wealth forever and never enjoy it brotha
The louder you scream and claim your virtues, the more of a fiend you are behind closed doors. 😂 This goes for alphas, or people that claim they’re empathetic, they act the opposite when no one is looking.
@@joane24Of course these men aren't virtuous. They claim to be all sorts of traditional, morally righteous, biologically superior etc., whilst in reality they contribute to the very degradation of this society and exist under the thumbs of the very women they refer to as intellectually inferior and "304's." Quite ironic, really.
@@joane24 I mean you do hoe shit and people call you hoe, truth doesnt have to be virtuous or immoral and doesnt say anything about the speaker on the other hand calling them bad, ridiculing people who sub and then subbing them is hypocrisy for the comment, I agree %99 of people who say they are good people and praise themselves etc. are not
I got a friend right now in my circle who acts no different from some people in the RP movement since he was dunking on a woman for months (like beyond 6 months) for being a literal hoe... and now he is in a relationship with her. Him and another friend had warned me about her because she asked me out one time and my one specific friend kept saying shit about her; I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt since I didn't know her (sure enough my friends were right). But now, after 3 months, he's had his heart broken by her twice (once on his birthday) and forgave her, is throwing all of his money into her when he has no savings and still lives with his parents while saying he's broke, and wants to marry her... even though during the 3 months he has said behind her back they aren't a thing. Before he was like "Man, I'm not gonna let no bitch like that be in my life; she's a waking and infested parasite."; now he swears he'll beat the crap out of anyone who says shit about her and I tend look at him like 🤨 when he's not looking. When I had lunch with him one time, I actually called him out on his hypocrisy and he couldn't look at me in the eyes and was silent until the subject was changed. To be, honest I can't really look at him the same way anymore; I think he just got with her cause he was desperate. Bottom line, if you are going to paint and display yourself in a specific way; then ACTUALLY be that. I personally don't seek someone who is promiscuous because I myself am not, I'd prefer someone that would make smart choices and decisions for themselves that don't have long term affects on their emotions, mentality, and personality; but I wouldn't do what he did otherwise I wind up being the joke in the end.
@@fortencuales That's just the funny part; he really has no reason to have self-esteem issues , and he's not even a bad looking guy and is very social with both sexes while being very out going. He's actually considered the leader in our circle; he will be confident with what he say and at time he tends to make himself look like he's above others intellectually or when it comes to getting women (he's really not good at it, fyi), even in our group. He's not always like that and sometimes it kinde like a joke; but as of recently, it's just hard to take him seriously.
some people don't care abut fake. some people like the massive juggs and the massive badonkadonks. for some people, it's a fettish, for some people, they just like big stuff, for some people, they might not like the big fake stuff for their personal use in dating or marrying, but enjoy watching it on porn or OF.
@@Weebgamer236you're acting like 12000 isn't alot, and its not like they just looked her up, they subscribed to her OF. This girl prolly got more traffic than any of their sponsors. Considering everything fresh&fit and their fanbase preach, it's embarrassing
i see these type of comments once in awhile , make up ur mind do u want a relationship or not . Ur relationship is stupid as well , if calling other ppl relationship stupid
Would be cool to see you guys in Europe, the Netherlands/Belgium specifically :) I really like the balance and common - down to earth - sense you guys bring in this crazy red/black/blue pill scene. It's really needed.
Simps need to be held accountable for their loneliness and unwillingness to self improve, I've been saying this for a minute. If you're paying for an OnlyFans subscription or pornography, and you know this shit is bad for you, that's on YOU. ESPECIALLY if you're a grown ass man, not counting young guys in their teenage years. Sick of hearing dudes complain about women, but they're the same men to follow a bunch of thots on IG and fap to pron.
@@roderickclerk5904 Also, it's not a high drive. It's simple because they're bored. If you're doing it 25 times a week to your laptop then you're probably spending too much time in bed
The thing that always got me was the amount of time they talk about high value men, and the privileges they get to have because they’re rich and successful… yet their audience is filled with regular ass dudes, making regular ass money, living normal regular ass lives… All that high value man/celebrity/rich guy hook up, dating culture stuff doesn’t apply to you my guy…
This is the part that gets me everytime. Or when they say “Well, Kings and Chiefs have multiple wives, etc.” Like bruh, you're not a king or chief, my guy 😂
@@chocha4438 Exactly 🤣 in my country you can even have 1 million wives, i promise you the women are there but be ready 😂 financially and otherwise, it becomes a competition on who will kill you first, even dating one woman is not easy and you want multiple? Even if you control them with money, they’ll actually be controlling you with how much money you’ll give them. I have a family friend who married as a 7th wife, she’s leaving the billionaire because he’s now broke ( he was into illegal bunkery, taping oil illegally) She’s relocating and getting a divorce with her 4 kids because what’s the point. I don’t know why some guys don’t understand, it takes alot to be involved in polygamy, just the thought of the women sharing you, they’ll want to drag you EVERYTHING to assert dominance as the favorite. It’s hell, i saw it with my grandfather, almost destroyed his life… that was a rich man 😅 Now a regular joe is fantasizing about multiple women when you can’t even be upfront with one, gotta lie and hide to get one girl.
That's always the bit I find funny, like, who do they honestly think is listening to their tripe. I know a few "high value" men due to work, and most of them are sitting up waiting for the Hong-Kong office to open, or flying to Germany to get the best deals on manufacturing equipment. They live out of a suitcase because they are constantly trying to nail that better deal. One of my work colleagues (he's a multi millionaire) is currently in France buying a dilapidated farm house that he's looking to turn into holiday apartments. He posted a picture yesterday of him stood in a small lake of shit, arguing with contractors about soil pipes. Do we honestly think these people are taking time out of their day to watch the likes of F&F or Pearly things? 😂😂😂
For the most part, it’s not even true. It’s all based on the insane stereotypes that poor people have of rich people and vice versa. I have lived around these “high value” people my entire life. I never saw them as high value. Just regular people. For example, my older sister runs multiple businesses; she sleeps on the floor and eats food out of cans. If she’s not travelling, she’s at university. The younger ones are quite laid back and have many interests, and the older ones are polite and family/business minded.
One thing I find hypocritical is the men that are quick to call a woman a hoe, yet they’ll still have sex with them. What does that make you? Where’s your dignity? “ oh I won’t marry her, tho” Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
I’m just glad that people like this are getting called out by other men now. Women have been saying this for such a long time but we’re not listened to. The guy that calls his girl a 304 for wearing a crop top is the same guy bashing these OF models yet watching their videos at 2am in the bathroom.
I noticed that years ago when I first got into the manosphere. So many of them are hurt and lonely men unwilling to improve their circumstances. I understand the importance of understanding female nature, but I'm not on board with talking shit about the very women you are desperately trying to smash. That's fucking pitiful. I leave that content alone because it pretty much all devolved into shaming the women they secretly want. In my own life, I know 2 men who complain about dating while they are borderline homeless. Some people are just unaware of who they are to other people.
This is a great summery of a thought I've been toying with: I believe that some men do this “dunking on IG models” because 1. They hate themselves or 2. Know they can't have them. I really think some men hate the fact that desire a certain type of women so much, they begin to hate that women or women hood period. It's crazy out here 😅
It's not a secret anymore that these guys are still traumatized from getting turned down for a prom dance in HS and proceed to demonize every women bc they remind them of their unattainable cheerleader crush
Yep that’s literally how Incels are created; get shown a bunch of women that will never give them the time of day so they become jaded and categorise all women as sexual objects that won’t let them f*ck and that makes them furious so in turn they despise all women and the freedom they have to reject them
There are several reasons. IG models, ethots and OF girls are buttom of the barrel and I would only date them if I was mentally ill. I also don't go out of my way to hate them because it's a waste of time though I find the whole discourse around this entertaining. It's not a woman or man's problem but rather a society problem that is anti-family, anti-tradition and highly individualistic with money as the priority. Our ancestors were a lot smarter than we give them credit for, they set in place strict roles for men and women for things not go bad and we dismissed them entirely, now we are getting the results. However, it's true that some guys like them in secret but imo they never matured. I had that attitude with a girl I liked in school, I would be mean towards her but I did like her. I didn't think this attitude existed in adult males. It just goes to show you how dysfunctional western society really is.
This is always what has happened. There have always been men who attack the same women they're attracted to becuase they feel insecure for liking that type of woman. Same thing happens for women. It's just insecurity and jealousy. Instead of teaching people how to go inside and be a better you, they're teaching people to purchase sex.
Who says anything about attraction? I know you're an African so you don't quite understand our culture but dudes will bang someone they find grotesque. It's the same with OF. They're paying, not because they're in love with them but because they want to get their attention and talk to someone in a sexual context. Mainly because they can't lock down a proper relationship, like most African women.
I love that you mention women do it too. Best way to get a hater for life is not pursue an ‘it girl’ . She will be online dragging you and hoping for you to fail at every moment. Happens to me constantly. Men and women do the same shit
It's a form of misogyny. They hate on the exact same women, they'll be trying to pick up. I think it makes them feel more in power by degrading women. It's never about the relationship and partnership, because for that you'd need integrity and maturity. It's all superficial power play game. A sad way to live.
It’s much easier to rally against an outside enemy then the love of the in group. It’s quite sad I see alot of young women and men playing this game of blaming the other gender and always subtly commenting they are inferior some way or the problem with society.
@@music0cool My personal favorite thing is when men claim they hate when women over sexualize themselves but yet you can find thousands of male tiktokers and youtubers interviewing women on the streets outside of clubs, making them spin around for them so they can check out their ass and tits, daring them to make out with them, or, my favorite, ask whether they "spit or swallow," all on camera. And men in the manosphere claim to be traditional and want traditional women? What an f-ing joke. If women today are over sexualized whores, then men are just as bad, if not WORSE, because they fund these "whore's" lifestyles on OnlyFans and go out of their way to make interactions with women all about sex and body count. Men today are degenerate, creepy and perverted on a level I have never seen publically ever in my life and in the past. Before they come for women about displaying bad moral character they'd better shape the hell up themselves because they have just as much work to do in that department...
They are so fragile mentaly. They get violent and overly angry when rejected like "whore I never wanted you anyway!" And then some of them come back like a day later making the worst apology ever "I didn't mean what I said, you just made me angry" (still saying that it's the girls fault cuz SHE made him angry, not taking any responsibility for their anger issues).Alot of them are probably single for a very good reason if they think they can treat people howewer they fucking want instead of just respecting peoples choises to not date you. They are forever toddlers that throw tantrums when they are refused a toy in the store. Some people never matured past the age of 3 and it's fucking sad and pathetic. You gain maturity only if you strive for self betterment, maturity doesn't come automatically like some people say it does. "Just wait until you get older and you'll understand". Otherwise you are always forever a little spoiled kid. I have seen it with my own eyes. I grew up with my brother and I have seen his aging up process. Still at 30 years old he still acts the EXACT same as he did back when he was 15... He stopped maturing past that age. And that is his own fault, cuz he is a person that never takes any accountability, manipulates people, uses people. Very self centered, only his problems matter. I finally realized my brother was a lost cause cuz he stopped self improving a long time ago, while me who is the same age as him has made so much changes and grown in these years. All his friends has matured past him, including me, while he is still stuck as a teenager in his mind forever. Truly sad, but he can only blame himself, which he won't. And that's why nobody has any patience left for him anymore and we have all stopped hanging out with him. He has caused his own lonelyness but refuses to listen when others try to give him new perspectives and I said many times he should just focus on self improving and talking to girls just normally without any strings attached, rather than being obsessed with losing his virginity cuz obsession is only shooting himself in the foot.
Nah I have ZERO respect for any guy that is making these girls richer after talking crap about them 😂. Whoever is doing that is a whole disgrace, a simp, a destitute, a moron, an imbecile, for letting some girl take your money and you'll never meet or even smell her. Nah bro I cannot respect that at all 😂😂. Anyone doing that deserves all the shame in the world
You know, looking back at everything I’ve learned from you guys in regards to this whole debacle, I’ve come to this conclusion: you guys were right about fresh and fit form the Juno the first time they went off the deep end. There was an episode I watched where they invited girls who are basically the same as onlyfans girls, but these girls seemed very…..open and honest about what they do. I think if any OF girl talks about wanting a committed relationship and marriage, then what they do can have a negative impact (depending what it is they do on onlyfans). Of course with guys like fresh and fit, I think you guys and others hit the nail when you said they’re trying to be the guys couldn’t be when they were younger but they continually prove how fragile they are. That said, I think blaming only simps or blaming only the OF girls for this kind of climate with dating is overly simplistic (not that you guys did that) because years ago prostitution was one of those things that people did in secret out of shame. These days it’s more public and open but the mindset for simps and OF girls started somewhere. But I don’t think either groups are solely to blame.
We blame both. Happy? The issue is that loneliness is a hell of a motivator and guys will do anything to combat it. Women know this and are showing their grunt and talking to the guys for money. While both groups are pathetic, the women really are worse in this instance.
Finally, proof of what’s actually happening. Those men have to pretend to hate women, because they can’t have them even though they present as ‘easy’. I like sex, I like women, and I like hoes. It’d be many upset men if they took sex work away, let’s stop the bs
It’s proof of exposure. The podcasts don’t only reach their audience. Clips go viral and other audiences take notice. Almost every video with an attractive woman has someone underneath it asking for her @. It’s not proof that people with that ideology are hypocrites. There’s no doubt dudes who tune into that podcast watch it for the women which is why it’s the most popular with women on but it doesn’t mean people who subscribe to their ideas are the ones contributing to this. Almost everyone who goes on that podcast gets more popular and it’s not a guarantee that every sex worker who goes on blows up
Very true. Especially when Moron says it's like a 'handshake' like, what? Why do you need that many handshakes then if it's no big whoop? Isn't he just as much in his feelings if he has to have sex with multiple women just because it 'feels good'? What else is he getting out of it if not that, dominance & control? Pretty strange lol
"Have to.pretend"!?!?! Easy they don't have to do anything of.The sort, leave it out, this is BS They are hypocritical cowards, that's what you should have said, the don't have to pretend, they CHOOSE to behave like this, it's hypocrisy,not pretending
They hate women because of women's _biology_ , the hypergamy and disparity in sex and reproduction. _"It’d be many upset men if they took sex work away, let’s stop the bs"_ Well no shit sherlock, then they would just become violent. I mean, they're already going to eventually, because as the years go by, men are going to participate in society less because no sex and reproduction, but then they'll become violent. Society is already heading to collapse, it's only a matter of time 🤷 Just enjoy the decline 💊
We'd have a lot more productive men that aren't useless eaters if we got rid of sex "work" all together. So I agree let's stop the bs tell the sexually addicted to grow up. They ain't adding any value to society.
My stance on the red pill community has pretty much always been the same: The moment they got into relationship talk, they lost. A lot of them needed to heal and become better men first but now we've got a group of loud egotistical hurt boys... Sad
I'm married with a son but I still agree with a lot of what the RP guys say. You can't bash them and ignore how awful western women have become. Will you at least admit that women need to become women again?
Dudes can definitely be over the top when pretending to dislike a woman. Years ago, this dude swore up and down that he would never have anything to do with this big girl. He went as far as to ask how would he even find it? Years later, he has a child with her. I guess he found it. 😭
Lmao bro this ain’t nothin. We have done far far worse before any of this became a thing. This shit is just who you spending your money on. It’s not like anyone died 🤷🏽♂️ nah this shit is cake lol now when you start talking about genocide, that’s crazy
There is an inherent slavery to instinct regarding sexual nature. Not only does this idea hold true in masculine culture across the world, but in this case it is accompanied by hypocrisy and double dealing.
I think I can offer some perspective here as a Queer person. This phenomenon of toxic dudes being attracted to the kinds of women they give the most hate to is NOT a new concept to me as a very feminine presenting 'man' (the way I present has most people assume im a trans woman). When I go on gay dating apps, the kind of men who hit me up are almost exclusively guys like this, guys who have 'Straight' in their bio, guys who look exactly like these hyper-masculine redpill dudes, the kind of guys you would expect to see screaming about "trans-dragqueens grooming kids". These guys almost always want to keep it 'discreet' will never be seen in public with you, are probably cheating on their wife/girlfriend if they have one. If possible they always message you from a blank profile and want to meet up at your place or a seedy motel room. My point is they are ashamed of their attraction and act that out by screaming about how gays are corrupting the world or in this case go on shows like Fresh and Fit and call these OnlyFans girls whores. Gay men and trans women have been experiencing this kind of ashamed-hypocrisy from men like this for decades, its nothing new.
I think a lot of these men COULD get girls but the women that are available to them are average looking and that hurts their ego. But the women they want no amount of self improvement can get. And no relationship is a tangible goal because you can’t control others I think your right I think a lot of men haven’t figured out how to deal with the feeling of shame in any meaningful way and instead live their lives avoiding the feeling and suffering more.
Self improvement can help, the only problem is that the mindset they possess is what is going to drive them away. Nobody wants to be with someone that looks down on the opposite sex unless you're a simp or a pick me.
But what exactly makes you say? "But the women they want to amount of self improvement can get" So girls are what beyond human reach now? 🤡 If a guy gets his life together. He can get anyone he wants. To say otherwise is bs
This proves that the F&F audience don't actually improve from the "advice" that they are given. They are just talking shit on the internet and remaining the same in real life.
The whole point of the redpill is for men to fantasize about being high value under the guise of self improvement. Its how a guy like Rollo can be a guru despite never having lived what he preaches.
I mean are fresh and fit taking their own advice? They tried to to hit on the girls after the show. The only difference between F&F and it’s audience is that F&F has more clout/popularity than them.
This is exactly what they preach. Sleep with as much women as possible (sex workers obvus) and become an alpha which is incorrect bcuz alphas don't simp. Alpha has one woman i.e. his wife and he loves her. He's not easy to get and that's what makes him desirable to women around him. Even men respect and value that men aka alpha
They want to be thotting around with women like only fan models, but when they want to settle they down suddenly want pure virgin women with self respect.
I'm probably super late, but congratulations on hitting 2M Subscribers. This behavior of these "red pill" mf happens on every level. It's weird Red Pill "Dirty Macking". Because what they're doing is convincing other males to stay away from women. It's clownish.
@@TheWorldClass9 You wanna try that again only this time actually make sense? Fresh and Fit don't teach men to stay away from women. This is a disingenuous statement and if you don't know that then you probably haven't even viewed their content. Good job
@@imkolip0ki387 1. They have. 2. They aren't the entirety, authorities nor the standard on Red Pill, they're just who you watch which is why yiu brought then up.
Congratulations on the tour! If and when you do come on over to visit Europe, I hope you guys make a stop in the Netherlands. Thanks for the wide range of topics you guys cover and your honest opinion on each.
If we believe that the shape of the temporary body vessel defines us in some way it becomes an integral part of the cosmic battle that we are waging with ourselves. Reminds me of that scene from robocop where they strip his mechanics down
So 1200 dudes out of 400,000 who payed now suddenly means that ALL of the rp are closeted simps? Bro the hatred and reaching that A&P and their fans do is insane. 😂
I've seen this clip before or another similar clip many months ago. That was my wake-up call to quit the RP podcast world. The illusion is that the women on the panel are the suckers, but they're getting paid in new subs. Fresh and Myron are getting paid. The viewers receive nothing but an illusion, and they are the real suckers. A lot of these RP personalities have little respect for their audience and will occasionally let it slip when they're away from their own platform
This red pill space is like a self proclaimed alfas and self proclaimed high value 10/10 women (slay queen💅), having discussion, while the rest of the world is watching them and think, how bold of them to be so confident on 3 to 5 hours long podcast where they repeat themselves all the time.
@@HolyHusky well YEAH, they talk about themselves all the time, (304 and alpha's 🤣)they must be right, but they are NOT representative for the rest of the world.
this isnt redpill. the actual redpill is self improvement. but these guys just "join" the redpill and ruin it with all of their shit ideas and beliefs.
This is my problem with this whole “high Value” conversation. Which is the reason why I don’t care about or want to try be so called “high value” because 1 all the shiz that’s supposed to make you high value you can’t take with you when you die. and I’m happy being where I’m at because it keeps me humble. They say it’s lonely at top but not only because of the fake people it brings, but also it changes the way those so called high value people think about the people that’s not on their “level”. They’re always suspicious about people because they think those people are living with hidden envy and I have to include the fact those same HV people are living a life of vanity. I’d rather be in an average place with a few real people around me, vs being at the top with a bunch of fake people around me along with having that suspicion in the back of my head
'High value' is just a term they made up because they know they are decidedly low value & need to assuage their fee fees by branding as many 'masculine' labels they can. I agree; for these two dorks to quote the Bible & think they're comparable to men like Solomon or David who we're actually quite honorable men themselves is actually insane to me then say everyone takes thier show out of context when that's literally what they do with the Bible/Quran because God already said long before they had kings that they shouldn't want any but they essentially begged God & God warned them sh*t would hit the fan but they didn't wanna listen so God basically gave in & He set up ground rules & guess what? One of those rules for kings was not to take multiple chariots (for warring purposes) & oh mah gawd, guess what else? God told them NOT to take multiple wives either so God never condoned polygamy & if he did then it wouldn't have just been Adam & Eve in the beginning; it would have been Adam, Eve, Julia, Kaitlyn, Ashley, ect. because God's design originally was always one man, one woman for life because you can't become 'one flesh' if you have a bunch of side pieces. It's like saying God condoned all the sin in the Bible because He didn't stop it like, what a ludicrous take..You think they would have taken Solomon's advice to instead of just praising the parts they like about him when even Solomon regretted a lot of the bs he pulled & he actually knew he was pretty narcissistic & you see that in many of his Proverbs because he was aware of his shortcomings & he should have known better to which makes it his fault, not the myriad of women he married or had as concubines because Isreal was suppose to set themselves apart from ALL the pagan nations around them so that included polygamy, idolatry, dietary guidelines & NOT marrying foreign women (which is EXACTLY what Solomon did) because Mosaic law stipulated that Jews could only marry within their own ethnicity; Samson had a lot of the same issues to going after Phillistine women & breaking every one of his Nazarite vows) Solomon said all is vanity & a chasing after the wind meaning all the things he thought would make him happy (being a king of God, wealth, status, fame & all the b*tches he could ever want) only left him hollow & empty which is why Solomon stressed that a life without God is no life at all nor can it ever truly be fulfilling or rewarding if one isn't living their life for God to begin with & Solomon knew he was backsliding by not relying on God as much as he should have. Never truste a non-practicing believer because not only are they not practicing what they preach, they are literally the wolves in sheep's clothing Jesus' warned us about because actions always speak louder than words plus man looks at the outward appearance, God looks at the heart (i.e. your motivation; is it out of love or pride?)
Reminds me of that episode where Fresh and Fit actually played S3xual games with cornstars and put it on their Patreon/other paid sites to profit. It's wild to me that these are the same guys shaming 304's even though they work together
@@bigmiki2620Clearly a lot of men are, since she got THOUSANDS of subs from that one visit to F&F podcast alone. I think men today are so sexually frustrated and watch so much porn with women who have unrealistic proportions that this doesn't appear alarming to them and they find it sexually attractive. Personally though, this is super disturbing and she doesn't even look human, but more like a blow up sex doll, and not in a good way. It looks like her breasts will explode any moment... it makes my skin crawl.
@@bigmiki2620you'd be surprised. A lot of men are into that but deny it 🤷🏾♀️ check some guys' search history and that'll tell you enough about them lmao
@@randomfemale4322ou cant really determine what a man actually likes from what he likes when he is horny. Ive met guys straight as a board that would watch straight up gay porn if he was horny. thats where the term "post nut clarity" came from. most of the time you will feel horrible after finishing because you realise that the shit you just masturbated to isnt actually attractive to you.
A lot of people are HYPOCRITES. What they say doesn't match what they do. I'm still trying to process why a lot of men(SIMPs) go to only Fans... If they also complain about modern women. I remember watching a man act tough when a pornstar that he spent a lot of his hard earned money on, on her only fan page came visiting. It was embarrassing.
What's more amazing to me is some people are just now figuring this out. That's the business model. Myron creates a podcast, sleeps with most of the women he brings on. Speaks to the lonely men who are more likely to are more likely to pay for a service or pay to see women. This attracts a lot of women who are, trying to build a platform, trying to build clout, trying to build a financial supply through OF. So all that happens at the end of the day Fresh and Fit get money directly from their core demographic (lonely men) who will buy their merch, donate to "dunk" on women, and write self help books, and laid with tons of women The women who like sex get laid, get their clout, get their OF subscriptions Next thing everyone is going to be surprised at is the WHATEVER podcast is built off the same business model. And what people don't get is there's almost a limitless supply of women who are out to get their bag regardless of what it takes in order to get that bag, so it's nearly infinitely sustainable business model until there no more hundreds of thousands of lonely men. So how do they keep customers? They purposely give bad advise so they continue to be customers. Edit: Let me correct this; it's two good pieces of advise with 1 bad piece of advise. Just enough to make someone FEEL like they're improving their life, but not actually improving it in a substantial way.
Yeah I thought this was kinda exposed awhile ago, I can't remember if it was on this channel or if Myron mentioned it on one of his episodes. Definitely wild to hear the actual numbers though
Please explain how this model is relevant to the large quantity who don't use any financial contribution to them OR to only fans. Most men who are logical would not pay for onlyfans with free porn existing and not just free porn but free onlyfans content...most tune in for entertainment and financial content, that's it. By that logic, what's your explanation for people who watch their content and also A&P?
@@nobodyknowsforsureThere are plenty of people who may not use OF but will still benefit FnF by giving them views. If people are exposed to rhetoric that validates how they think or makes them feel they’re gaining valuable information (-bonus if there’s something about the show/channel in question that viewers can personally identify with-), then they will likely keep tuning in. The podcast’s set-up is to bring certain types of women on and make “extreme” points that their guests aren’t always equipped (or allowed, tbh) to argue against, which leaves viewers with an impression about the topics brought up on FnF’s shows. The podcast attracts a handful of kinds of viewers from shock value, enjoyment from seeing women “put in their places”, and other reasons. Even if people aren’t motivated to check out the OF creators, FnF itself still benefits because of a consistent amount of viewers/subscribers.
I don't get your point. The one woman made over 150k for a 2 hour podcast in OF subscriptions, and that was the only thing they tracked. Social media discoverability will amplify that, so she'll make more than just the $150k at the end of the day. It doesn't matter if 95% of your audience doesn't supply a dime, the 5% that do supply a bank roll.
I think most people are hypocrites about one major thing or another in their life and don't know it and will deny it or try to find some way to excuse it if it's ever directly pointed out to them.
Fresh and Fit are Cosmopolitan Magazine for men, they say things that are true that can help someone just like Cosmopolitan, then once they have some one hooked they start feeding all the BS that hurts more than helps.
That picture of her at 0:07 is insane. It's like she saw Jessica Rabbit(an animated woman with purposely ridiculous and physically unachievable bodily proportions) from the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and just aspired to be that, no matter the cost. She got like a 0 waist, 50" hips, and triple J cup breasts. I look at her and see a lot of photoshop, hundreds of thousands of dollars of 'cosmetic' surgery, a spine about to collapse, and a whole lot of desperation + seeking validation, while still somehow being arrogant. Basically, I see a 125lb doll of silicone and plastic that's as hollow on the inside as the Barbie she models herself after, but with less self-respect.
It’s like the product of a gaming youtuber using the character creator in an RPG game 😂 just unrealistic proportions and they think this will appeal to the vast majority of people? 🤦🏻♀️ sad that people lack self esteem.
I mean, good for her. An OF girl isn't for me but i commend her positive attitude and turning an L into a W. Just remember ladies those OF fans change girls like seasons. What goes up must come down. (Except photos and videos you've shared on internet, those are there forever)
I am kinda jealous that I won't earn a 100k a month just by showing my body xD lol onlyfan girls aren't my thing as well but I would also love easy money lol
Straight facts. ❤. Maybe that will be one few positives of AI. AI created realistic avatars indistinguishable from real women will saturate the prawn adult internet to the point that real footage of random people from 10 years is just novelty infrequently access.
@aliashfaque1746 most of them don't. It's like winning a lottery. Unless they have an actual social media presence, also they have to do it for the rest of their lives.
@@djbobby224 they don't have to do it for the rest of their lives lol. If they're mildly successful they can retire and live a comfortable life for the rest of their life and if they're not successful, the market is so over saturated chances are no one would recognize her and she can do something else.
This is one of the reasons why some don't watch people like fnf, they would point out some of the issues that are present in dating but then offer an alternate solution that is considerably worse than others by often contributing to the problems or taking us back to pre-suffrage era 😂, mostly the hypocrisy is the biggest red flag
Yes blame everything else but they root of the issue XD You take away porn, you'll still have mysoginstic dudes who objectify woman and want to have a harem. Take away social media and you'll still find similar issues with woman. By the way, with the issues here, only men are the ones failing in this matter. These woman are hustling these weak minded men.
I feel like my time in the service (Army) prepared me for and also made me numb to RP, and to add irony I’ve noticed a lot of RP are veterans too. I served from 2005-2012, and I can only name a few men that seemed to actually like women and treat them cordially and with tact. Wearing the same uniform and fighting the same fight, they still never missed an opportunity to talk to us women serving like crap or an object. If they saw another male treating female counterparts with professionalism and respect, or call them out for disturbing behavior they begin to alienate and disrespect those men- even go as far as to physically harm them. When I got out the service I would tell people these types of men existed and everyone thought I was exaggerating, and now they all have mics and cameras smh.
Aba and Preach... You seriously hit the nail on the head with this one! Loved Preach's game he spit in the beginning too about the whole "pulling girls hair cz you like em" explanation. It's too funny and pathetic 😭
