Bruce finally gets to feel what superman feels and have some fun at his old age. Retiring must've given him plenty of recovery and reflection and it's good seeing him smiling and go back out there doing what he's passionate about even when he's in absolute agony. He doesn't need to be pouty or a perfect like most modern depictions of him. He just needs to be himself
I miss the old Batman. The human one. The compassionate one. Not the PERFECT HUMAN COMPUTER. The one from the Animated series from the 90s. The one where he comforts people. The one where he buys Harley Quinn a dress after a misunderstanding with her. The one where he comforts a woman who is cursed with a condition that makes he look like a child forever. As a teenager a loved Batman because he was cool, edy, dark, but now i wish he was less of a plot armour character who forces his ideals down your throat of the "no kill" rule. He should be more of a "hero who is the light in the dark".
Gotta love how this Batman is like a very happy dude. His retirement allow him to put his hand off the vengeance for a long while allowing him to fully embrace his Bruce Wayne side, the side that's allow him to have family and friends. However, He's still yearning for old time of doing a job to drive the vengeance into criminal body and soul so he went out and unleash his desire. It's beautiful
My main gripe is when people try to explain the motivations of Batman and make it sound like he's a revenge obsessed psycho. Batman's main motivation is to ensure what happened to him as a child never happens to another child again. It's the reason why he takes in Dick Grayson and other children who have been scarred by similar tragedy. He doesn't dream about kicking criminal's teeth in. If anything, he probably dreams about a day where Batman is no longer needed.
True that, even moreso, evil batmen are created mostly because Batman was needed even more, either by the criminals doubling in size, his age catching on as he’s forced to give up the work to others who don’t get the job done right, or a combination of the two. Which then drives him to seek greater power that then corrupts him, the most notable one I can name being Castle-Bat, who’s Gotham was plagued with worsening crime, his age forced him to the sidelines as he passed the mask down to Damian, but Damian sucked at being Batman, so he was desperate to save Gotham from the crime before it tore the city apart. In his desperation, he made a sacrifice of Damian to a Native American god so that his soul would be bound to Gotham itself, he literately fused with the city, becoming one with its every brick and shadow, in mere hours, he crushed all criminals, Gotham was saved for good as he took a well deserved rest, it was only when The Bat Who Laughs came to him that he came out of his newfound retirement, turning the city into his newfound body as he became a headquarters for The Bat Who Laughs’ crew, hence his newfound name, Castle-Bat And there are many more examples of this, there’s a Batman who harnessed flash’s speed, I believe harming him in the process, to then wipe out crime, another who harnessed some other other-worldly power and became a tyrant, and on a lighter note, there was a still-good Batman who in his old aged, partnered with Ra’s Al Ghul to go the Lazarus pits, there they did…something, and became one, Ghul giving up his very existence to keep Batman young and in his prime. The common denominator between all three, crime was skyrocketing and everyone other than Batman was impotent in stopping the plague of crime
To quote one of the most well-respected authors of Batman to ever live, “Batman’s goal isn’t simple vengeance. It’s much larger than that; much more *noble* than that. Batman is seeking to create a world where a young Bruce Wayne would never have to live through what he did. Batman seeks to create a world where he doesn’t need to exist.”
That's why Bale's batman was very enjoyable. Batman wasn't his whole identity and destined to stay that way forever. Batman was a job for him to inspire others to protect the city. Bale as Bruce was an angry, traumatized individual, but he could still live a genuinely happy and normal life if he wanted too.
There's one panel in a comic I read a while ago that explains this one perfectly: Wonder Woman puts The Lasso of Truth around all the male heroes (Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Flash). They each reveal their actual names as the lasso is placed upon them. "Clark Kent", "Hal Jordan", "Barry Allen". Then when it gets to Batman, he says "Batman". Everyone jokes about how the lasso is broken accept Wonder Woman who is confused as to why Batman doesn't say his actual name. Then it is revealed later that Bruce Wayne in his mind, the real true person is "Batman", and that "Bruce Wayne" is the alter ego. So in his mind, he'll never stop being Batman no matter how old he gets, because Bruce Wayne "died" the moment his parents did.
Yeah I didn’t like when Kill Bill tried to paint Superman as the only hero who this logic applies to. If anything Superman is neither fully Clark or fully Superman since he neither acts totally human or totally kryptonian. But yeah Batman? He’s Batman.
If anything if krypton wasn’t destroyed and Zod’s rebellion was put down earlier, kal-el would’ve become a great scientist like his parents and live an ordinary kryptonian life. It’s funny cause the lasso should’ve have made Clark say Kal-El.
@@Ducky195 The reason why Superman doesn't say "Kal-El" is that in his heart and mind, he believes himself to be Clark Kent. He was raised since an infant as "Clark Kent". He only learned of his Kryptonian heritage and culture later on in his life after he became a super hero. So while Kal-El is his true Kryptonian name, he sees himself as being from Earth, and thus his name in his heart and mind is "Clark Kent".
I have no problem with a Batman who enjoys what he does, fighting criminals and saving innocents. In this story, it’s just Bruce having a good time (probably for the first time in a while). Unlike in stories like “All Star Batman & Robin” where he enjoys fighting criminals a little too much, to the point where he’s laughing his head off like the Joker while crippling thugs or mowing down corrupt cops in the Batmobile
Being batman is not a curse, its an honor, not for punishing the criminals, but protecting the innocent, not vengence but hope, thats the batman i know
This actually made me shed a tear. Throughout my childhood I’ve always like 3 things, Ninja Turtles, Spider-Man, and the highlight. Batman. Throughout the times I’ve watched this guy in a costume just be hero, it never really seemed like he enjoyed it, then you had the times where he smiled cause of his family and friends, more importantly his crime fights. That is the way I changed my whole mindset on Batman, because in reality, he loves to be Batman. He really did enjoy it. I am so happy for Batman fr. He really is the definition of Gotham’s Symbol of Hope, but darkness too. Even if he is a demon who lurks in the shadows, I now know that he just loves being a hero. A big example of Batman simply just being a caring hero is Batman The Animated Series, Batman Brave and the Bold, and a couple 100-200 comic issues.
The Dark Knight Returns makes sense, but being 75 years old? That's kind of pushing it. Although in Kingdom Come he was really old and was pretty awesome in that.
@@nakedmario9359you think Batman is his true identity - funny, I always saw it the other way round with Batman being the escape of torment and restraint that Bruce Wayne has
I would have to disagree about your points regarding how Batman wants to make criminals suffer. He’s not someone like the punisher who enjoys torturing people. He’s not putting on that mask every night purely for his own personal desires. If Batman just wanted to make criminals suffer, like he did, he wouldn’t hold back from killing them. Batman stands for something greater. He isn’t a figure of revenge coming to slaughter the guilty. Batman is a Vengeance for all those who have suffered at the hands of crime. He will bring the criminals to justice to avenge their victims, but nothing more. He is vengeance, not revenge.
True. In a way batman fights criminals so that no other person will have to go through the same thing he went through. He dont kill cause he dont want anybody to die just like his parents died. Theres alot more to it of cause but those are some of the things i see when it comes to his reasons for vengeance and justice
You kinda misunderstand both Frank Castle and Bruce Wayne. Frank has admitted he isn't punishing the criminals, he's punishing *himself* for failing to protect his family. He fully intends to suffer and eventually, inevitably die on his mission, and he's just taking as many criminals as he can with him. Bruce, meanwhile, knows very well that it isn't the dead who suffer, it's the survivors. His parents, he believes (and has had confirmed in some comics) are waiting for him in Heaven or some kind of afterlife. They aren't suffering. He is, here on Earth. So he won't kill, not out of mercy, but because only those who are still alive and conscious can feel pain. As long as they're on Earth, they're his to torture.
It was perfect! I'm glad batman got the happy ending too,as frank miller once said: "The only proper way to finish a batman story,is to leave him looking forward to his next great adventure." imo,THIS is the canon ending to the batman legend! lol
He might hate being batman but over the years it's the only thing that stayed with thin over the years he bonded with the idea he came to terms to eventually love it, love the idea of being hope and justice and not vengeance
I think we’re kinda both right. There’s lots of iterations of Batman and they all have their quirks. When I was making this video the thought in my head was the Supes v Batman “deep down essentially Clark is a good person… and deep down, I’m not.”
Thanks for letting know of this comic. I really appreciate it. Seeing Batman be truly happy was an unexpected occurrence that’s a pleasant surprise. You got yourself a new subscriber. 👍
One consistent thing I like for each Batman Origin publication is that the movie he sees with his parents, if not the original Zorro or later adaptations of Zorro, is still some story of heroics and mystique
You can honestly argue. He is vengence for anyone who wishes harm upon those who did harm to them. Batman making a robber have a brown pants incident brings some offhand vengence to a wife who lost her husband when his store was robbed...or some clerk who was beaten and left for dead. He is their vengence, not just his own.
Only thing I can nitpick is that I wish Jason could've also been there, but even then it's not a flaw; it's just something I wanted in this happy story.
This is a neat twist. Bruce isn't a curmudgeon for once. It was very sad, the part of him being in agony while swinging around. This might be lengthy, just a warning, so run now while you can. I thought the same thing recently while playing Spider-Man 2. The writers made it a point to put across how long the original Spider-Man had been doing it by sneaking in little things- such as showing teen Parker punching a whole in a wall In anger the first time he heard a J Jonah Jamison show criticize Spiderman. They also show how he'd get used to making web fluid as a teen. It made me think that if being able to do things like that in real life, the sheer amount of knowledge a person would amass doing it. Granted they dont get themselves offed, that would be a super dangerous person, knowing that they got away with their lives that many times, and the realization that it's because they got better at their tactics. This bat guy, he can sneak up on people like a ninja, you'll Never hear it coming, and nothing mystical happens- he just beats you within in inch of your life. I mean think about that, as the video says, that's how a criminal would view such a person. But to the people who understand that batman goes after criminals, there's no fear involved. Interesting dynamic. I never considered that.
I think it’s been said more than necessary, but Bruce Wayne is the mask so when he becomes Batman, he is being himself, hence why he is so happy since it had been a long time since he was truly being himself.
3:33 I love how Batman/Bruce does the dark knight returns pose (A story about a older batman my favorite one) and he talks about how bad his body hurts but in the dark knight returns he says that he feels reborn and young again (The exact same pose and panel as well)
Tom King 100% wrong about happiness ruining batman. If anything it gives both the character and readers more feel good moments that well deserved for one of the hardest working heroes of DC.
I know is a comic but somehow looking at him so happy at this age makes me less afraid of aging, when I turn 75 this is gonna be my Halloween costume ❤ and I’m looking forward this day to come
And look at how tore up his body even is. He's more scars than flesh. More shattered bones than solid. And you can bet those all happened in the last few years before his retirement, when he "slowed down too much" for his own liking. And, knowing Batman, it's only been about ten years or even less since he was officially Batman. Considering he started in his late 20's or so, depending on the timeline you're looking at, he probably DID do 40+ years under that cape-and-cowl.
Depends on what version of Batman you are talking about. When I think of Batman I think of the one in Batman, the Animated Series. And I am sure a lot of people do the same and hear the same actor's voice. That one feels no pleasure in beating the crap out of criminals. He does what he needs to do. His enemy being crime itself and not the criminal. But If you go to more sadist versions (like the live actions movies), yeah those are just the Punisher in a funny costume.
Imagine the utter shock and pure fear those bad guys felt that night. Coming face to face with the Ghost of Gotham's greatest Hero which kick their teeth in. No one would believe them and will forever be scared to go out at night.
I avoided watching this video whenever it was recommended to me because I was worried it would be about a sad and somewhat pathetic old man getting himself killed trying relive his glory days, and BOY was I happy to be wrong. This is just a story about a retired Bruce living his best life and going on one last joy-ride to celebrate his 75th birthday, and I am down for that. I especially love the smile he wore on his face for most of the comic, as well as all the nods and references to other comics featuring an older Batman. This was a great send-off for the character, and I'm glad I got to see it.
Would be awesome to have a short film based on this comic. Trying to make an entire movie or show out of it would be too much. But a 40 minute film would be perfect. And dont make it "Logan" esque, just make it exactly this. We don't need to see old Bats lose, just struggle with a smile. I'd love that & I think it'd be a hit if done right. Preferably a Batman we haven't seen yet, too.
What makes me sad is if he and Talia could make things work. He COULD be Batman for the rest of Time, the pit wouldn't be an excuse to escape death in that scenario it'd be an opportunity.
The Bat Family is the only thing that could save him, the one thing that can keep Bruce Wayne alive and sane long enough to even reach a day like this.
This story line ran in Batman Comics way back in 1957. Nothing new here except like in the Zorro novels, he trains a successor because he knew he was too old. In the Antonio Banderous Zorro movie ,the original Zorro trains his own successor.
Actually, Batman loves showing of his toys, especially his pride and joy, the Batmobile Fighting crime was mostly just a side hobby, but Batman is a motorhead, a gearhead, a street jockey He likes fighting crime, but he loves cars
I was really think brhce was gonna get a happy viking death type story so glad he just gets to go home and be happy for once. A real birthday present for my man
A real embarrassment is what this is 💀 this AIN'T batman this is a corny ass superhero team that ruins everything that made him interesting and compelling
I like this take on Bruce. I can live with both this version and Batman Beyond's. In a way, they're like polar opposites. However... WHY THEY ALWAYS LEAVING JASON TODD OUT OF THINGS
When I was younger I just dreamed this, for real, I can't believe it. Even the image at 3.19 is virtually the same as it was in my head. But it ended quite different in my dream, Bruce got his ass kicked by a juvenile criminal (this guy knew some fancy moves), got some broken bones and some sores, and escaped before getting killed by the youth. A very depressing dream tho...
