Same, I'll train all summer amd try to build up as much stamina as I can only to have circles run around me by some retired old guy 😅. I aspire to be like them one day
Rode a few months ago with an 83 year old on his gravel bike, said thats all hes ever knew, he was on 40odd mile when he left me to travel to his home which was 19 mile from where i pulled off
I had a lady in her 70's yesterday come cruising down my street (wasn't on my mtb either and the street is very quiet) on her E-Bike slaloming from one side to the other so casually and happily. She looked like she was reliving her childhood smiling ear to ear. It's great something like that can make a person so happy.
I went to a mountain city in my country on a van and got totally flexed on by grandpas and grandmas biking up ultra steep hills on their non-motorized bikes like it's nothing.
Funny I saw 10 year girls on their E Bikes & it looked like they don't even use the pedals. I have a recumbent bike I use for exercise I'm the E on my bike.
@@Roboprogs I used to work for a company that made the control boards for the motor going into electric high powered skateboards. This was about 12 years ago & as a Technician would have to fix them. So Obviously when the repair was done you have to road test to see if that truly corrected the problem. I would go around the big company building & the speed was around 20 mph sustained for about 40 minutes before the battery pack would get discharged. They were using 6 volt lead acid batteries at the time - I think there were 3 of them layed down in the base.
There's this former pro motocross guy in our area, 80 years old and rocking an S-Works Levo. He's ahead of everyone on men's group rides, no one can keep pace with him. Incredible, isn't it?
Not really he’s been doing longer than anyone and has the most experience. Give someone like that a hike that practically drives itself and you can do those things
@@awesomeatronik Ah yes, the ole "earned it"! It all makes sense now because everyone needs to work (slave) 60-80% of their life away first so that they have the "right to live" semi-normally and enjoy this planets wonders, more freedom, and technologies without the constant worry of cut-throat survival. Yea, no one deserves that but old people. I can't believe humans have the gall to be born on Earth with no choice in the matter! Only old people who will only live a few more years deserve a taste of what freedom could be like. Clearly, all humans are not equal, children are trash and don't deserve any form of freedom from survival, adults are slaves for the old, and old people "earned it" all. What an exciting philosophy!
@@DoubleYouRandyBeFor schools in the USA, there is this thing called the fitness gram pacer test where students are suppost to run from one side to the other while making it to the other side in time.
@@TimLevi he’s not even old… 44 I got my e bike at 57 yrs old I’ve got little over 1500 miles on it. I turn it off to get my heart rate up and back on again to relax and enjoy the adventure of exploring rail trails and forest mtn bike trails … i used to run but i blew out my knee …. Love riding that thing!
I also had a stroke two years ago, at 45 years old. I haven't tried my road bike yet because I don't want to risk falling while trying to unclip from the pedal, but I purchased an ebike, and it has allowed me to enjoy the trails again.
This is it! Don’t support the hate, support the good in it - the free feeling and endorphins rushing through our heads.. much love to anyone going OUTSIDE their houses! Whatever they ride :)
@@pascalt2708 yeah I don't mind them doing that, I like seeing people being in nature and exercising as I have seen people's health degrade at a rapid pace due to lack of exercise. What I don't like is when they pass by real fast and don't warn other people, it's pretty much an accident waiting to happen.
@@marklouieadame true, I just notice them more due to the frequency of "older person w/electric bike" at the trails I go to. The other group of people I frequently see do that are those on road/gravel bikes that look like they are in a race.
You get as much exercise as you want by adjusting the pedal assists. So drop the assist and you will for sure feel the weight of that beast. Which in turn will get you stronger if you really want to push yourself
As long as you continue to exercise regularly and eat right, there's no reason you can't stay physically active well into your later years. The main difference is how long it takes you to recover after a wreck. Old bodies don't seem to heal as quickly.
My neighbor is 84 and swears he will NEVER ride an electric bike. He mows his farm with a push mower. He’s an ex-marine. I affectionately refer to his farm as “Heartbreak Ridge”
Yes! I had a minor hip socket fracture & wasn't supposed to _move_ my leg for a month or put weight on it for six. When I finally started walking again, I got straight back on the bike. ... Except my _heart_ stamina wasn't as recovered as my leg, & with all the smog around here I had multiple doctors urging me not to exercise hard on bad air days. Well, I still needed to get around town & wasn't about to go back to driving everywhere... So a few years ago, I got a bigass ebike (I am excessively tall) & started wearing a nanoparticulate filter mask when I ride on smoggy days. Got my cardio stamina back up (it could _still_ be better; though that might require better air) & I am turning the pedals more than I have in a decade!
E-bikes are seriously one of the greatest vehicles out there. ANYONE can ride them without exerting themselves and it’s all about being out side with friends/family enjoying the outdoors. Nothing better
There’s an 80yr old at Pocahontas State Park Va. super cool guy. Excellent bike handling skills. Also, volunteers countless hours to the trail system and Mtb community.
More and more evidence showing that people who ride E bikes are actually in better shape than people who ride regular bikes! They have way more hours in the saddle and they are happier than hell. People who work out on regular bikes too often are simply spiking cortisol all the time.
@@Linus-tz2tk yes it is the truth! There are more articles coming out on this subject. Physicians are saying that electric mountain bikes are more aligned with HIIT. Look it up.
That's fine, wait until you're really old to experience one of the funnest toys you will have ever ridden in your entire life. Sad actually. People are such purists and snobs that they miss out on the absolute enjoyment of technology.
@@boblatkey7160cmon man stop crying🤣🤣 this mas is such a boss for riding a normal mtb at his age, let’s see how many of us will be ABLE to ride, even if it’s an e-bike.
thank God you're still breathing Jesus Christ is a reviver Jesus as a great physician may you experience the love peace and salvation of Jesus Christ sir
@@acgraphics1139i set my ebike so the pedals are geared way up so i have to out some effort into using it at low speed. My knees cant take as much as they used to so i use the motor going uphill
@@MZRFaith So true! I stopped owning a truck long before I got an ebike, because I was living & working in town & already loved bicycle riding: the number of days I needed a larger vehicle were so few that rental ideshare was cheaper & less upkeep. After a hip injury, I could still ride, but I didn't get back to anywhere near the level of cardio endurance I had before that 6mo "break". Got a 1440 Watt \ 1 KWh ebike a couple years ago, & although its top speed is less than I can achieve on my 3×10 speed manual bike, with its pedal assist I can ride a _lot_ longer & have finally seen some improvement in my cardio endurance again! Plus, it makes huge grocery trips a breeze. I slipped a trailer on it recently, so hauling cargo barely even affects the handling (can't believe I used giant pannier bags & a backpack for so long). For people who already ride & would like to ride more, but still have some trips that seem impractical to do on a bicycle, an ebike can be a great tool for greater range & utility, as well as fun!
I remember when E-bikes became a thing, everyone was like "exercise is dead" but these elders proved otherwise. I could also be going my super sonic speed while someone's grandma just cruises past and it's just hilarious. They feel probably awesome for passing me and I feel awesome that I can keep up with their E-bikes with my road bike made in 1993. 🤣
Man, some of those '90s bikes are really great for what they used to cost. By the late '00s, the _exact_ same components were going up in price year by year; suddenly the same model & price-point came with worse kit, trying to get consumers to buy the next model up. I had an early '00s full-suspension bike that I rode for 15 years & it was fantastic. These days, I am usually on a cheap Specialized from the '90s that I literally salvaged from next to our dumpster, & after some polish & a new chain it rides _sooo nice._ Rolls easier than any other bike I have! I feel amazing when I'm able to keep up with ebikes & carbon touring bikes on that thing. And when I can't, at least it _looks_ like I have some excuse!
@@prophetzarquon1922 Yes, seems to be the trend in everything... I got mine second hand and in great condition for it's age. I don't know too much about parts YET, but I do know I have never had such a good bike in my life (Monark Colour Club 1993 if you're interested). My main concern about modern bikes was the amount of plastic used. I'm quite rough with my stuff so I probably would have made some damage to aluminium as well. With steel frame I don't need to worry about anything really. I'm also planning on touring with it so I need it to carry weight. My only concern was the weight which I laughed off once I got it. Mainly 'cause I switched from random mountain bike that obviously weighs a lot more. I even added a front rack to it and it's still light as a feather for me. 😂
Omg this is so true!!! I was in bentonville biking up a trail then this group of e bikers passed us on this 35 degree straight climb and I was just like WTF.
So fckin true. I do XC for cardio and I'm always getting passed by old dudes on ebikes. Almost had a heart attack last week trying to keep up with a fellow local lol
In my area, it's always out of shape, wealthy 40 somethings passing me on their e-bikes on the trails. I'm 67 and ride a normal bike, and am in fairly decent shape.
It wasn't a competition to him, just to you. I've been riding an E-bike, minding my own square metre for a few years, and when people accuse me of cheating, I just gently point out, it's not a competition.
I am 73 and just got an e-bike. I have been inactive on the bike for a couple of years now because of chest pains. It is not my heart, but my GERD (gastro esophageal reflux disorder). Two days of hour-long rides so far and my heart rate got up to 167 and 180. This is the range of a 40-year-old. AND no chest pain on either ride. Good for me. Stop bashing us boomers! Sometimes we have health problems. In my case, I also have been working against the corporate war-mongers for over 50 years and still grow lots of food which I give away.
At the end of the day, you can still put out just as much work and burn just as many calories on an e-bike, it's up to you to decide how hard you want to push yourself. The e-bike is just letting you go faster while you do it.
@@lewisedwardson7776 true. It can also allow u to go higher or further distance allowing me to cover more ground and more scenery. Yes it’s a workout. Motorcycles and atvs and mountain ski lifts for bikes still give me a workout
@@TimLevi Your prejudice is wrong and ignorant. If a person is putting just as much effort into pedaling, then they're getting just as much exercise. It's not some holy ritual where using a motor means the gods disqualify you from burning calories. If it was, then I guess starving people should hop on an e-bike to magically shut off the calorie-burning process. When you push your legs, you use your muscles, and that burns calories. The motor just means that instead of going 18 miles an hour, you go 28 miles an hour, and instead of it being convenient to ride somewhere 15 miles away, it's convenient to ride somewhere 30 miles away. An e-bike means instead of driving everywhere and only riding your bike when you have spare time, you can actually get there fast enough on your e-bike, and haul cargo on your e-bike, and use your e-bike as your primary method of transportation, and get exercise all day long. I notice folks like you don't call people lazy for driving a car. Do you think pushing the gas and brake pedals takes more effort than pushing e-bike pedals? When I ride my e-bike, I push harder than my motor across intersections. My motor could get me 0-20 in about 7 seconds. With pedaling and motor, I get 0-20 in about 3 seconds. With only pedaling, no motor, I get 0-20 in about 5 seconds. I don't use the motor so I can pedal less for the same speed. I use the motor so I can go faster and further. I do deliveries until 4 AM and I use the roads because the sidewalks here are in horrible condition, often have curbs with no ramp or a ramp twisted off to the side to prevent biking, and some roads don't even have sidewalks. With a regular bike, I'd be screwed on these roads. With an e-bike, I can almost keep up with traffic, so they treat me like a moped and pass me, whereas if I go under 20 mph, they will try to run me off the road on a daily basis.
I don't think I could ever give up regular bikes, but I could certainly enjoy an ebike. I had my brother's for a while and got great workouts. Not very hilly by me so it was hard to get a good burn but I would just turn the engine off close to home and churn and burn the last 10 minutes. 80 pound bike gets the burn going good. I did enjoy going on longer trips and in less time. I ride for fun first and ebikes are a ton of fun. Gives me that kid feeling.
Was biking hills (Polk) in SF when some OG smashed past me on an e-bike. I, wheezing and huffing, yelled "cheater!" and he replied "I know! I'm sorry!"
@@michaelb.8953 I use bicycling to stay in shape too, still get good workouts with my 250Watt Ebike. Only difference is, that I now ride uphills twice the speed and I can ride up realy bad hills, which I wasnt able to do before.. But I also only use Eco Mode most of the time.
I know some patient old dudes who destroy climbs but really slowly. Whenever i go as slow as them my balance goes to crap so i'm stuck melting my thighs over every uphill.
It is totally crazy how sometimes I can crawl at slower than walking speed, up a rough trail, but other times it feels like I can barely stay upright over each bump. "The zone" is real, but I rarely make it there by plan...
This is so my SIL. "I only used a little battery". I've been riding for 30 years, you've been riding for 2 weeks. You shouldn't be crushing me on flats.
@@nicolaszamudio8699 get an E-bike so he can be a fatty like his SIL. At least he’s older so he won’t have his heart attack at 40. He ain’t crying, he’s calling his SIL a pussy.
That attitude is so depressing, you have no idea the fun you are missing out on. There is nothing cheating about it and you will be in better shape than you ever have if you ride one.
I actually out climbed an e-mtber on a steep slope, he just kept looping out while I ride really slow on my 12th gear. Also battle with someone on an e-mtb on a black technical climb, I won. tried his bike, I don't think Ebikes have much advantage for challenging climb, they just save more energy on shuttle climb or flat. But that's better, because it doesn't take all the fun, just help you skip the boring part
Idk, watched an old guy in jeans and a tucked in shirt ride up a loose, 30 degree hike a bike section the other day, as with most things, the rider is what matters.
@@BigOlSkip oh, I see what he meant. I thought he meant "go buy a $450 E-Bike" And you can't use dirt bikes on 99.99% of all mountain bike trails anyways
That thing where you're tucked down and in the zone on your road bike and keeping a steady 15 mph for miles and someone in shorts and a t-shirt sitting straight up whizzes by you. At first it sort of shocked me. But now it's like, "As long as they follow the rules of the road, good for them."
Never ever, have I been the guy on a manual bike passing everyone uphill... _but_ on the flatland I am absolutely that guy who rolls past doing 32 MPH on a manual 3x10 speed cross-country 29er, while wearing jeans & a t-shirt.
75y/o don't ride E-bikes... they overtake you without even sweating on their old hardtail! But fatty should ride without E-bike too, would be better for his health!
I am 80 and the Blix Aveny I bought for $1600 is perfect for riders my age. if I was still up to riding dirt trails, I would spend a lot more money on a frame-mounted motor and good suspension, but the Avery is fine for quiet streets and paved bike trails.
