This Walmart MTB looks incredible, but is it really? 

My local kmart sells diamond back bikes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Same my Kmart does to

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@@neilcrompton3488 if I had to guess, you aren't seeing the high end DB bikes at KMart

Seems like a huge liability honestly. Treating a bicycle like a hamburger at McDonald's...both can kill you, but one can do it quickly lol.

I figured as much. But that cuts Into their profit margin.

Yeah my brother worked in walmart assembling bikes and he says they don’t give a fuck lol

You knew that the safety of some kid or commuter depended on your work. Good on you.

We need more of this in today's world people doing a consistent quality job

Well yes, it was part of the experience because you had no choice. LOL But hey, you learn a lot about repairs and maintenance growing up this way. I’ll bet you don’t have to pay a professional bike shop to fix things on your bikes.

Same or any bike imagine just getting on bike and ramping and end up in hospital not good i think i may have heard or even seen wheels come off funny when nobody hurt but theyre lucky some have got serious injuries.

Maybe he can elaborate on the disclaimer and the kickstand stabberizer?

I picked one of these bikes up, and as a teen with very little money, this thing blew me away! All the minor inconveniences don't bother me, and it is one of the nicest quality things I have owned 👍

@@schofell84 He wouldn't have been involved in the decision to put the disclaimer on the bike. And welding on the kickstand like that seems pretty reasonable; it probably reduces costs and increases reliability, the kickstand coming loose is so incredibly common and nobody who just needs a bike to get around wants to take off their kickstand.

​@@schofell84 let him get right on that... Just for you...

I have one and it’s awesome. There are trails 7 miles from the Walmart I bought it from. Addicted already.

Capitalism done right, profits over safety. Its in all our jobs. Nurses work 24 hr shifts so do EMTs and then they get ticked for driving sleepy. But oh the police also have long shifts. But hey fuck logic. Productivity is more important than safety.

@Wake Vulture As an ex-assembler myself, I want to let you know that, as far as walmart bikes are concerned, we don't fuss with the chain drive at all. Out of box, we put on the front wheel, handlebars, seat, some parts of the brakes/brake lines if applicable, which is rare, and pedals, with only bikes like cruisers getting extra parts in the fenders and other accessories like cupholders or baskets. If you find some fault in the bike that wasn't blatantly obvious, it's more than likely a manufacturing issue.

@@brunorojas3992 it is not the capitalism, ist the people

I Transferred out of assembly into truck unloading for the same reason. I would pull the bikes TLE had assembled with loose pedals off the rack and fix them, and get static for it. Kent bikes had lots of bad parts at that point, mostly the 20" freestyle bikes.

@@heavyearly2232 Kent bikes were some of the worst when I worked, too. Even some of their cruiser options were garbage. I think some of their larger stuff is much better now but the small 20" bikes still look kinda jank from what I've seen

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Your position pays better I hope.

I used to assemble products for a company that worked with major US retailers. We really do not care about the end result of the product as long as it got assembled. You get paid per item assembled, so the faster you work the more you get paid. It was very bad pay too. We were always busting bolts on with impact until it was tight. After working for them for a short period, I won't buy pre assembled things from stores

I work at Target as a bike assembler and I understand what you are saying. The bolts and nuts may have been from a box of spares, at my store if we get a bike in that is messed up beyond repair from the factory we strip it of all usable parts and defect the frame out that way we will have extra parts to fix little things that may be wrong on other bikes. Just 2 days ago i was assembling 2 Schwinn's and each of them had a ball bearing in the front wheel axle hole, I only realized it was in there when i slipped the QR skewer through it and the ball bearing came rolling out. I took apart the hub and sure enough each one was missing a ball bearing. I put the ball bearings back in and it was good to go. I love working on bikes so I actually take the time to do it correctly especially knowing that this is something that a person is going to ride on.

chances are the barring's are from kids bikes they fall right out you have to take the balls put them back in and grease it to keep it in place while you install the stem. its mostly going to be small kids riding those bikes its insane to me they dont take it more seriously

@@paddor not just the USA.

As a former production manager for a big brand, Cape Epic mechanic and current warranty manager for 25 cycling brands in our region, I can confirm that on even the most premium brands, out of the box all most every bolt will not be torqued and most parts needing grease won't have grease. The only brand that has blown me away consistently has been Orbea. Oh, and I've been to most of the factories in Asia and have seen what brands are produced at what factories

Hell, I just brought home a Specialized for $4200 and I torque checked every single nut and bolt on the bike. Most were good, but it's peace of mind. As an equipment tech, I trust no one.

at 1:25 he kind of says not to trust the bike as is.

Even my RIbble R872 didn't have fully tightened chainring bolts, giving the occasionally very loud clang that took me a while to diagnose. Donno if Shimano or Ribble is to blame there, maybe both.

He was just recruiting for army rangers the position gets vacated often 10 chutes. 1 bike builder, 9 max usually watch from cover. They refuse to use foldable or electric bikes they could be like chuck Norris Delta force but silent and frugal like some Amish with missiles. Itll always be one guy they're like frat boys initiating and just mourn and move if another bike pro is trying wheels out in the middle of a field and the team is playing Parcheesi or taking black powder ale bombs like an Amish spring break. Strange I've never known an Amish ranger just 82nd airborne they're full of the beard exemptions and they look goofy ah after diving from 30k feet, like a wispy octopus mounted Rambo's head. Yeah you dodged a bullet, that manager probably took a bullet for you he probably didn't want you to mourn his death and be in a cosmic kharma loop overcompensating in each reincarnation until you get another shot for valor at the gates of Valhalla. Don't be so hard on yourself I can do 5 in that same time iit just take a little skill that you have to build from a foundation of skill you are born with. I just saved you the vanquish of going through that timeline and doubling down on the slow toxic accumulation and prophetic failure which peaks early before that sharp parabolic drop a selfie with a tad of moonwalk makes for a graceful half swan dive. Is what's it is maybe mercy was going out at the beginning, everyone is different but we're all linked by the shared hindsight of wishing we had died earlier because suicide is awkward now it's only natural to want to end an empty life, I can totally relate to that, after having accomplished everything ive set out to do I feel so content I feel like why not go out on my terms, the criminal amounts of vanity I've expressed would have sent my soul into that of a small rodent or mammal, another challenge I would intent to take head on if I were so inclined. Best wishes you got this forward backward they both suck enjoy yourself today in the service of fellow man let the rudder go let the love flow you're right where you need to be, the best position to allow yourself to get lucky, you're like a swarmy speed after running a numbers game but you're not cringe you're just the perfect singularity of inward and outward perception, and no shame being a beacon of positivity. You got this, and thank you I feel like my tendency to lie pathologically was gone yesterday and all this truth is like a clean firmware install, no corruption whatsoever and that is humbling seeing I purposely took on the persona out of intellectual curiosity of being forced into a criminal life by myself as the future megachurch pastor who struggled then gave his heart to God after many feints which led to frustration and a scrap down at the junkyard level where God was so humbled or embarrassed he made me an honorary demigod likely to save face, which reaffirms my word as bond above and furthermore I told everyone about our bonding over our completive and Irish blood, I just couldn't hold the truth back especially when its not something to hide god can be proud of his human nature. Have a blessed one, not like in a god like Steven Segall dali Lama way, the humble way. All the balance brother, -Burt Tmarcus McGillicutty II

@@svnbit8408 Man, life must be a riot in your world! Enjoy!

@@svnbit8408 omg this comment is amazing, what a way with words. 😂👍

@@svnbit8408 my newest copypasta

no wonder! that's mildly depressing.

I recently came across ( second hand) a Huffy Rock Creek 29" mountain bike.Brakes are bad. Left pedal crank is stripped. Because I don't yet know if the pedal crank itself is bad or if it's the pedal assembly going through the frame, I'm replacing the whole thing. I'll be honest, the bike looks abused, but some things just should not be.

That was my thought as well. I also bought a bike for the same amount of money here in Sweden back in 2018. Now I ride a Trek Slash 8 2021 :D And I love MTB.

You’re better off buying a higher quality used mountain bike on craigslist or FB marketplace than anything new from a big box store for that price!

@@mikeFPS1980 You would already have to be into mountain biking to know what is good and what is not good and what is worth it in the used market. And even then good used bikes are still more expensive then this. This bike avoids all of that for a new rider who wants to try out the sport.

@@mikeFPS1980 what’s a good used mountain bike that I should be on the lookout for on craigslist mate

@@mikeFPS1980 Facebook market place does have some good bikes but the prices are high on some

It’s very very possible they sourced this frame from a factory that already makes them. I don’t know anything about it, but wouldn’t be surprised!

Pinkbike went and tried to make their own bike once, and found that Chinese frame manufacturers have catalogs of pre-made frame you pick from and throw your logo on

Are XDS bike frames good? I'm asking cause I've been looking for a road bike, and they're in my budget.

@@46fut look at poseidon

@@amountainbiker2654 I have nearly 10,000 miles on my poseidon X. Everyone I ride with is amazed when I tell them its a $700 bike.

That's just mean, what you're saying.

Ah yes the “bike snob” I’m so better🤡

me to

Horrible idea. You should have spent slightly more and got a GT aggressor from Dick's sporting goods. If I was you I would take that bike back and get an aggressor. Much better bike for a little more money.

@@wojtek-33 wrong. The GT aggressor expert is $600 when not on sale. The GT aggressor pro with mechanical brakes is just under $500 and I think around 400 flat went on sale. I know it used to go on sale very frequently and it's way ahead of that Walmart junk with no kickstand to cut off. 🤣

@@wojtek-33 when I look it up I'm getting 499.

Frickin funny

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ I am better than Jesus.

@@mikekoz6351 yes you are! I am also. Peace ✌ hahaha 😆

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ No

That was a bit overkill. Simply unbolting the kickstand and replacing it would have sufficed.

I’m not here to just to defend seth, but tbh, until this comment section I had no *idea* how little you guys get paid per bike, I wouldn’t think seth did either.

I've been watching for a similar amount of time and this is so true

Better place? Drama is dead. I think that is not better than being alive.

@@Ringo177 Sure....

Look out there's a real genius in this thread...

@@th_js having hope and being positive is nice for a change you should try it sometime

I cant imagine the amount of emotions and confusion that came from the moments after

For the general public, hilarity ensued.

shouldnt be doing that regardless, ride up a ramp

@@Blox117 "ride up a ramp" Mtn bike aren't wheel chair or road race bike.

@@TwinShards not sure if you are tarded. normal people ride up ramps near the sidewalk instead of trying to hump their bike to go over it. 2 wheelers arent meant for whatever you tards seem to believe

Same here . Every bike I get I can't help but modify, so often times it's the cheapest generic bike that's the best Groundbase option. Good job.

I am still riding a schwinn mountain bike that I bought in 1993.....

same with me, except I knew nothing about fixing or modifying the bike. Rode it how it came for several years, even completing 60-70 mile rides averaging

Good old Walmart Huffy and Magna bikes.

I can relate to that. I'm a roadie, but now I'm interested in getting into some bikepacking. None of my road bikes are up to that task, there all race bikes that can't handle anything over a 700 x 28 tire. But I do have a old 1980s Murray ATB that runs great, so that's going to be my starter for some dirt/gravel bikepacking overnighters, can't wait to hear the criticism, but the bike was a freebie from a friend, I've serviced it, and have been riding it, just as a commuter bike, for the past 10 years! So gonna give it a try, I figure why not? At about 40 years old and still riding good, it can't be all that bad on beginner dirt, and gravel roads.

Haha. I haven't been watching his videos enough to get it at first..... But when I saw he actually fabricated the thing right off, it all made sense 😄. Recent watcher of your videos and they're very entertaining and enlightening! Cheers from Vancouver

This madness will not stand! (grinding sounds...)

@@endereverett8776 That kickstand is the biggest hazard on that frame..) Hence the sticker XD

Guys,,, Remember "Its not meant for offroad"

No shit and did you see hunter weighing all that crack video WTF these got all the money.

Go to Harbor-Fright or other and purchase. Spray paint them to establish ownership and allow you to do your best job for personal satisfaction. You'll always have the tools.

I would have brought a few of my own tools in and either bring them in when I'd assemble or if they have lockers for the employees.

@@jaymeseaston8117 paying out of pocket for tools to do your job on a Target wage? Not a great idea...

Jewelers are required to bring all of their own hand tools, torches, tanks, pliers, mandrel, molds, bench pin, etc. The stores provide the big equipment, polishing, ultra sonics, steamers, buddy burners, etc. You can move faster when you are used to your own tools.

Go to the hardware department and get some tools and give the upc to claims for store use.

Are you still using this bike? How it works now.

A stoned thought popped into my head while I was reading this, reminding me of something that Not Just Bikes said in one of his videos. The so-called "men's" bikes are the only ones that you can smack your nuts on when getting on or off. No idea why we're still categorizing them like that. I find it hilarious.

Did you buy this before Seth's video?

@@GeorgeLoch Well Seth’s video is only a few hours.. I’ve had mine about a week now..

@@justu2bnit17 Yes it’s pathetic.. When Kent first listed the bike (pre Walmart) to the budget builder community, they had hydraulic (Tektro) breaks in the feature list along with a 1x10 drivetrain. That was bait and switch but for clarity sake, the budget big box community called them out so I kind of was aware that the break had to be upgraded eventually. What I wasn’t aware of is the type of mechanical breaks that required bending the rotor to come in contact with the stationary (non pot) caliper.. That’s a massive loss of breaking energy to push the rotor about 2mm to the other side of the break. It also means that the rotor will be, not optimal for upgrading to say Deore breaks. Kent made the changes to the Trouvaille’s big brother, the Intrepid which cost $250 more but a better deal for budget builders that do upgrades over a longer period..

@@StarChild.no1 they actually messed up on the description and listed the new Giordano’s specs under the Trouvaille.

My hub isnt bad, gonna replace anyway do you know the size of the freehub? Gonna throw a Onyx on .

The real Mom and Pop bike shops factor in their time spent assembling and tuning bike THE RIGHT WAY! Definitely something that’s worth paying extra money for.

Ooh awesome, what's your bike shop called? Will have to stop by next time I'm in C-Rock. Also, you share your name with a great metal musician - one of the best! 🤘

@@uraniumjoe Revival Bikes! As of now we are a home-based shop… Specialize in renewing and restoring bikes

Shout out to Castle Rock...I went to Griffith Center for Boys🙄 in Larkspur in the '80s... wouldn't recommend it. Lol

I remember seeing a review about a carbon Walmart bike a while back. I think it was around $800. The problem was that it was so darn heavy, it kind of defeated the purpose of going carbon.

@Danbeater upgraded?

I was about to say the same thing. There's so many great bikes out at Walmart that it makes you want to buy each one. I have 2 atm, Axum and Ledge X1. Both are fully upgraded and punches well above there reputation and price range. I also had the Hyper Hydroform and upgraded it to Kevcentral specs but sold it to buy the Axum. I'll get one of the Kents when the larger frames drop later

That bike is definitely quite a bit better then the one seen in this video after all, it is the king of Walmart bikes and always will be

@@schoolxing8367 I'm thinking of buying one of them this weekend so should I get the Axum instead of the Intrepeid?

@@thefuck1742 I own the axum dp, it is incredible, best 500 dollars ever spent. And I'm not normally this positive either, but when it comes to this bike, I sure as hell am lol

The thing is, the quality of the Walmart bikes, at least on the upper end, has also gone way up. I thought for sure he'd be looking at a Schwinn, since they're putting out some fantastic bikes right now too, but I see that Kent is also finally getting into making good bikes. The real trick with these bikes, though, is in how you can buy one cheap, then upgrade it later. Better fork, better wheels, better this, better that, and over time you can end up with a real killer bike, while growing and riding with it the whole time, instead of saving up for months without a bike at all!

fyi...working with Walmart customer service (seems to be outsourced to the other side of the world) to try and get a skewer sent but it is looking like it is a refund for the whole bike type of deal versus being able to send a skewer. Lol.

I got my wife a GT a few years ago and almost every component had been installed wrong somehow. A great bike, but only after having a mechanic do a tune up

Yep, I saw this berm peak video on my feed and having watched kevcentrals video on the trouvaille, I was about 90% sure it was going to be that bike

Suntour makes good parts but their forks weigh as much as a Schwinn...and that's a lot! 😂

I love this idea ….🤙

What makes them cheap though is, as he says: economies of scale. You'd need to buy an absurd quantity of parts to negotiate a deal. That's how Walmart works.

@@darrenprentice7934 that has nothing to do with what they’re talking about

​@@darrenprentice7934 Economies of scale still apply for individual bike parts. Yes, there are hundreds of models of mountain bikes out there, but the only thing custom about those bike models is the frame, really. The rest are all off-the-shelf parts. For example , there are tens of different reputable mountain bike brands, but only a handful of companies making drive trains.

yes since you only have about 200 square feet of it.

@@adamheyman6125 do you even measure bro???

@@matthewthompson7012 that's just what it feels like. Especially considering one of the medium stores for my employer has 88,000 ft of groceries space

If you shop at walmart, you're what's wrong with the "united" slaves.. Only time I shop there is when I need a fresh pair of dickies for work.. so, about once in 5 years.

Can’t believe you’re giving freaking Walmart props. They have been the demise of practically every mom and pop shop and are terrible for the planet.

Absolutely. And of course, they don’t have total control over Walmart (a public company), much less the exact products in their sporting goods department. The Waltons have done incredible things for mountain biking.

@@CANControlGRAFFITI Giving the Waltons props for what they have done for mountain biking isn’t giving Walmart any props. Walmart is a public company, and its shareholders vote for a board of directors just like any other corporation.

​@@CANControlGRAFFITI I agree with you. I have seen what Walmart does to rural America as they basically wiped out my hometown. As far as WalMart being a public company, the Waltons still control a majority of stock (50%) through a trust, Walton Enterprises, and the personal holdings of two family members. They also have a direct vote structure, which means the Waltons can dispose of any board member they do not like at any time.

@@CANControlGRAFFITI wal mart: "I have destroyed mom and pop shops and trashed the planet!" Amazon: "Hold my beer!"

Did u check if your chain was routed right?

@@nikounourbakhsh8433 Yep! I checked right after this video.

@@NoahMazraani nice lol

I'm scratching my head on that one. Why not leave the mount and just remove the stand? I bought a Trek Marlin 8 last month and it has one. Since plan to us this bike for touring It's one of the first I've ever had a stand on. I like this style over the old school blocks and bolts.

@@DanielTaylorOCMD he did it that way because the mounting hardware used was rivets and not hex key bolts like they should've been lol was easier to just cut it all off

You beat me to the fix! I used to assemble and repair, tune bikes for sears back during my high school year's!

I was thinking the same thing

But with that, runs the risk of the jockey wheel loosening again and causing the mech to jam and either rotate around the cassette, and/or into the spokes. I've done it but its easier to split the chain than start threadlocking jockey wheel bolts :)

Usually I just roll with it, had no problem yet, but thread-locking jockey wheel bolts seems to be a thought to ponder.

A little different...but kinda the same...hahahaha

Lol

I ride a schwinn that I bought in 1993.....still runs good

Yeah I agree . The value he was getting from Diamondback probably was not worth keeping where his channel is evolving.

true. just for the nostalgia alone

I just partly rebuilt an old specialized hardrock from like 2005 for my wife that I learned to ride on! Already had a decent fork on it from when I was riding it (had to rebuild it first though) and I re-used a set of old nice hydraulic breaks from an old DH bike of mine, then converted it to a 1x10, with deore derailleur and shifter, new tires, grips, pedals. Most of the other components I had upgraded over the years using parts from newer bikes when I upgraded those bikes. I forgot how addicting building bikes is untill I did that!

You sure it wasn't just inflation? ( A $300 bike they marked way up. Like the price of gas. )

In asia for 300$ u can get a Alloy frame Hydraulic Disc Brakes 1x10 speed Drivetrain

@@shockwave7091 Yeah with weak sub-standard frame and other metal parts

@@shinkishimoto7607 nah its pure alloy bro anything is can be possible in third world country search toseek brandon or sunpeed mars

@@shinkishimoto7607 sorry for my grammar

Maybe have a look at Decathlon instead

@@meowist9299 I just don't see any decathalon or anything else under $500 that has an all aluminum frame, 1-by drive, decent brand coil fork, tapered head tube, short stem, slack geometry, at least 27.5" wheels, and disc brakes. I did buy the Schwinn Taff, which was an excellent value, but the frame was just too big and returned it for a Costco Northrock xc27 (made by Giant) for $400. It's actually built well, but has a 3x7 drive and slightly lesser suntour fork. I might just stick with it, since I apparently can't find or even order the Kent. Walmart cancelled my online order yesterday, saying they were suddenly OOS...

@@Phrancis5 what about a schwinn Axum? i think it comes in a medium and large

@@Phrancis5 I had the Northrock and returned it. I tested this in the store and I like it much more. I may pick it up in the morning. If your 5 10 you will fit this much better.

@@EBikeBuilder_ Yeah I looked at that, but it's a little more $ with a crappier fork and the med frame only comes with a dropper post and even more $.