Great video !! The 160 grain bullet in .284 was the original weight designed for the 7mm rem mag by its founder les bowman for elk! I personally load 160 nosler accubonds at the 3150 fps for my choice big game load. i have been able to obtain 1/2 inch moa . Long live the 7mm Remington Magnum!
My dad gave me a Smith & Wesson 7 mm Mag and I put a Nikon 4x12x40. And when you run Hornady superformance through it,, it's a tack driver. 12 pigs and 4 deer so far this year. Nothing but head shots from 50 to 450 yards with ease. If you run anything else through that gun it's all over the paper except for hornady superformance
I own a 7mm mag. A 300 win mag. A 30-06, and a 45-70. Where I hunt at, I always go with the 30-06, or the 45-70. Usually the 45-70, my longest shot is around 100 yards where I hunt, and it's very heavy brush. I use to use the 7mm mag and the 300 win mag when I was hunting a property with gas lines and power lines on it. Love your videos brother, very informative.
I hunt antelope with 120 siara driven with 4831 powder I can't remember how many grains 61? I sight mine in to be 11/2 \" high at 100 yards. I killed one at 430 yards with no holdover one shot kill.Not braging just saying.
if you use MPBR and sight in that ammo for about 3 1/4" high at 100, it'll get you out to about 325 yards without having to adjust for holdover - this would be for white tail or feral hogs. the bigger the critter, the further you can stretch MPBR
I run mine 3” high at 100 yards. Dead on at 300. However at 150 yards it will be around 5 1/2” high. Which typically makes it a high shoulder shot. And I shoot 150 grain Remington core lokt
@@v71-v9n - way back in the before time, when 7mm RM was first introduced and well into the early 1980s, elk hunters were discovering that that blazing speed came with a cost - lots of wounded elk running off, to never be recovered. Most of them didn't understand what was going on with the terminal ballistics and just assumed there was something wrong with the cartridge itself. The 7mm RM was on the precipice of being a failed cartridge. They weren't aware of John Nosler's nearly failed moose hunt back in the late 1940s, a near-failure that was the genesis of what we now call "premium" bullets. His solution to the problem was the Nosler Partition. It's still a very good bullet, but isn't really a "premium" by today's standard since the lead core isn't bonded to the jacket. The basic design of cup-and-core bullets (Remington's version of C&C bullet being the Core Lokt) was introduced in the 1890s - a lead core swaged into a gilding metal jacket. It was a great design for "fast" bullets back in those days - "fast" back then meaning up to around 2400 fps. The problem is, as Nosler and a lot of hunters have since discovered, that by the 1930s, "fast" meant 3k fps, and those bullets don't often hold up very well at those impact velocities. At 200 - 300 yards, they've decelerated sufficiently to expand well, but not catastrophically. At 50 or 60 or 70 yards, they can fail quite badly, with lead core and jacket separating. This potentially leads to non-fatal flesh wounds (at least not immediately fatal - the injured animals will succumb to infection from the wound(s) in a week or 3). Bonded bullets don't ensure a quick, clean kill, but they do dramatically improve the probability of excellent terminal performance. Swift makes 2 different bonded bullets: "A Frame" and Scirocco 2. Federal makes Terminal Ascent. Norma makes the Oryx. Woodleigh makes the Weldcore. North Fork makes the bonded Solid Shank. Barnes makes the solid copper TSX and Tipped TSX (TTSX). Cutting Edge Bullets also makes a solid copper that holds together at high impact velocity. I'm not saying cup-and-core is a bad choice, just that bonded premiums are a better choice where impact velocity might be ~2700 fps or faster. Yes, premiums are certainly more expensive, but in the grand scheme of things, ammo is THE least expensive and THE most important thing you'll bring on a hunt. How much were your rifle and optics? How much for the warm camo hunting clothes? How much for the boots? How much for the deer lease or guided hunt? How much for travel? And a box of bonded premiums will run $60 - $80, or about $3 or $4 apiece. I shoot bonded premiums exclusively out of 3 of my rifles: my 404 Jeffery and 9.3x62 Mauser because of the kind of tough animals I hunt with those 2; and my 280 AI because it's a ballistic twin to 7mm RM. I can reach 600 yards and still have a bit of energy to spare for an elk with my 280AI. I shoot premiums out of it, not for those long shots, but just in case I luck up and get a 50 yard shot at a giant elk or mule deer. I'd consider it a tragedy to spend $15K all in on an elk hunt and wound and not recover it because I wanted to save $30 or $40 on a box of ammo.
I do believe it's where they are slinging out so quick quality control has dampened quite a bit in the past 2 years and it's hunting season so it's gonna be worse that's probably why those 3 flyers happened bro
Me and my buddies hunt alot of fields here in eastern Arkansas. Some stands a 300-400 yard shot is expected. We always zero at 300 and practice at that distance and well beyond that. We have taken alot of deer past 500 yards with the 7mag. They say u need about 1000 ft lbs of energy to take whitetail effectively. The 7mag can do that out to 800 yards! If a person is hunting in the woods a 7mag isn't really needed but we still hunt with them. We are about 3" high at 100 yards with our rifles. Just wanted to share this. If your setting your scope at 100 with these flat shooting magnums your not getting the benefit of having a magnum round IMO...good luck who tee who and thanks
I have this rifle when new it wouldn't group better than 3 to 6 inches at 100 yards. I changed scope and hand load my ammo now 1 inch groups at 300 yards . its my favorite bastard child rifle she shines now. Just a heads up if you wait 10 to 15 minutes between shots bolt open for cooling it will group way better the pencil barrel heats up with just one shot sir. It's a hot slow burning powder it's like putting a torch in barrel heats up barrel fast as it's a thin hunting profile barrel. 139 grain sst max powder load high B.C. and fast wind not so much of a factor hauling ass that fast.
It's called planet earth..anything fun, pleasurable, good for you....is expensive.....yep.... same boat...I declined a great deal on a 50BMG because I knew I would never really be able to reasonably get accurate and have lots of fun with the $5/ round!!!i heard some Olympic shooters sometimes do 100,000 rounds a year!!!!! Good fucking lord!!! It doesn't matter if you had little virgins washing your hand loads bullets with unicorn tears....YOUR STILL BOSS!!! Hey theirs a guy on RU-vid he's a handload specialist and barrel specialist...he has actually timed and length measured the way his barrel flexes with different bullets...he counter compensates for insane accuracy....fucking wicked....
@@lunam7249 the way I tell and explain it to people it's a musical note your producing a sound wave using powder primers and projectiles to get the desired effect in a given barrel. If you take a brass bell and shave it all over in a different pattern or thickness it will change the sound. If you change the power type and load amount you change the harmonics of the projectiles and barrels also the same with the bullets used different bc and bullets harnesses or softness change the harmonics too. Every firearms barrel is different and shoots differently than another you'll be lucky to get three outta 10 rifles made by the same company to shoot the exact same with the same ammo. Just like tuning a guitar you are tuning your ammo to your barrels harmonics to match and have an even overall flow and balance of energy efficient accuracy. If you ever wanna try this just add prolong Motor additive to lube your barrels it will make a difference. Or use fire power 10 aka fp10 it's a metal treatment to reduce friction make sure you apply to warm or heated up metal. It absorbs into the metal on a sub molecular levels fills in all the little scrapes nics and such.
@@adamlong54 excellent tip! I will try that!...I know using white lithium grease...but I will apply to a heated barrel like you say...thanks! Funny I do a lot of lubricants with an Olympic air gun .22 I have....Tuning a guitar yes....watch movie "little budda" 1992 Keanu reeves....enlightenment boat scene
My first big game rifle was a Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Remington Magnum. My next was a Browning Rifle in 7mm Remington Magnum. I have read that the 175 grain Nosler Parton penetrates as deep as the heavier 338 Winchester Magnum as measured by the late gun writer Bob Bagel. That sold me on the potential of the 7mm Remington Magnum loaded correctly. I vote that you hunt deer with it.
I have a model 70 in 7 mm it will put three shots in a small clover leaf at a 100 yds. According to the charts it will stay with in 2 inches plus or minus from 0 to 275 yards
I just sighted in my steyr mannlicher series s 7mm mag. yesterday with 139gr hornady superformance. 30yd zero, I was 3 in high at 100 and dropped a 10pt a hour later at 190 yds. I love that caliber, but kinda makes a mess out of a 🦌. Thanks for the videos, I'm really enjoying the series. Good luck hunting!
It appears to be a inconsistent ammo problem... WTW - Why do you sight all your guns in for a 100yd zero ??? - your losing range with that zero, VS your actual MPB range... my person method is 200yd zero for any cartridge with a muzzle velocity of 2,700 fps or greater, but don't get me wrong,,not saying your method is wrong just curious as to why the 100yd for all...
The only reason to sight in a rifle at 100 yards would be if your scope was a turret type of scope and then you'd adjust the elevation for each shot that was at a known distance. I would assume that would be the only reason. I think that some people hear "sighting in or zeroing" at 200 yards means that you have to actually shoot at 200 yard. It's always ideal to do that but you can sight your rifle at any distance and obtain a 200 yard zero. Many people zero their rifle at 100 yards because they don't plan on ever shooting past 200 yards. Which is okay too. Some people buy rifles that are extremely flat shooting because they generally hit like a sledge hammer. (So to speak). Realistically though, if you never shot past 200 yards, the 7mm super duper ultra mag doesn't really do anything that the 7mm Mauser can't do. I had a 300 win mag that shot 6" groups at 100 yards. I sighted it in at 50 yards, killed a deer at 50 Yards and sold it. I couldn't figure out if it was me or the rifle. I quit worrying about it and just had my folks ship me my 7mm rem mag and let the next guy figure it out. But that's another reason why someone might not zero their rifle for 200 yards. Can't hit a deer at 200 yards with the rifle.
Haven’t been able to find any 7mm mag in any local neighboring stores that carry ammo such as academy and bass pro. But will probably have to end up buying online from a second market supplier. Even though you pay a higher price or premium on ammo online because of the extra shipping cost, instead of local store pick up, but It Is worth It for specific cartridges that are harder to find. Additionally as ammo manufacturers catch up with the demand the prices should start going down. But the ammo shortages have been on and off since the early 2000,s when Barack took office, and all the radical changes that have been made such as the cancellation of the XL pipeline which caused the us depending more on other countries, and resulted in gas to skyrocket because of the decrease of barrels of gas that are being produced each day. Therefore the far left are putting harsher restrictions and regulations on guns. And have done things such as the defunding of police in their hope to create a national police force so that the government will have all power over people further transforming into a dictatorship rule. Therefore they are overall trying to change the structure or system of government that this country was founded on, from all the original founding fathers who sacrificed all that they had so that future generations could live in a safe, and government that balances the power that the people have and the power that the government holds.
Bro. get rid of the 770, and try this test again. You should have been getting better groups than what you got. Or at least try some different 160 gr. bullets. Maybe your 770 doesn't like the Norma, or maybe it just isn't an accurate rifle ?? Cheers, Garth L.
This is an important video as it shows the issues with testing ammo using observed drop; it's dependent on accuracy in a given rife on a given day. We all know that everything from a dirty rifle, to gusty winds, to how good or bad a day the shooter is having can change both group size and placement. The alternative gives better results, but costs money. The Oehler 89 is under 3 grand and can measure out to a mile or more and give a direct output of BC. However, I'm biased as I helped develop it.
I'd your boyds stock bedded? never been a huge fan of the 770 rem a 700adl is a much better action and not a whole lot more money. Walmart used to sell them under $400 my christensen ridgeline 7mm shoots best with 162 grain hornady precision hunter
7mm magnum, 150 grain ballistic tips, 150 yard shot, deer in freezer. 200 yards is as far as I will shoot a deer and for a couple of reasons. Safety, and wanna make sure the deer dies without suffering
Thanks for the info!!! I have a Ruger M77 Mark 1…. I love that firearm!!! I was taught in the military to zero at 25 meters and then 250 meters… It’s proven to be accurate with my 7mm. Any more than 250 turns into an educated guess… The optics I have are a bit limiting…
I can't remember the 4th brand but PMC 3240FPS FIOCHI 3240FPS AND XTAC 3240FPS AND THEY ALL DID THE SAME EXACT THING 20" barrel and with a 16" Dr my SFA SAINT 5.56
Good video as usual my friend, try the Winchester Ballistic Silver tips possibly to tighten the longer range groups up. Not saying it’ll work but it couldn’t hurt to try
I’m a 7mm rem mag fan too for my long range shooting. I like sighting three quarters of an inch high at 100 with federal premium with the nosler ballistic tip at an advertised velocity of 3110 FPS. I get less than one inch groups with that load in my Savage. I’d say your rifle doesn’t favor that load. I used to do a lot of long range hunts but recently been hunting shorter ranges with revolvers and muzzle loaders. That 7 mag is a flat shooter for sure! Great video series!
Have you ever thought about trying out a muzzle tuner. It may be what your 7mm needs and would make a great video Erik Cortina makes a good tuner called EC Tuner and he makes one for barrels that are not threaded as well
I Love the 7mm mag and I plan for it to be my next rifle.. My Ruger mark 2 25-06 is still my favorite but I’m a high power freak , so big bore rifles and handguns will always be in my arsenal.. Thanks for an informative video Who Tee Who
For my Sako 85 7mm rem mag i bought a 20 pack of the Norma 150 gr. The ogive is 380 tho short of the lands in the rifle. I also bought 20 Federal 150 gr, and these are around 170 tho short of my rifle lands. I reload my own now 150 gr Partition 30 tho back of the lands!
Awesome video and the 7mag is one of my favorite Cartridges. I’d love to see you do some hunting with it. Question for you, what do you think was the cause of the drastic POI on the 200 yard groups?
My 7mm mag is bullet weight sensitive. It prefers 160 grain over all others. Surely there's something out there that would group so much better in your gun. Maybe try a different weight?
May need to find a little more consistent ammo. Bet if you shot those through the cronograph you may have seen the issue. Maybe not. Actually had 2 different points of impact.
I've had a ton of problems with consistency in ammo man. Especially 223/5.56 you know that whole 3240fps thing well I bought 3 different types of ammo all saying they did the same FPS and it's around 2600 - 2900 I'm a 20 inch berral I got 2950 and a 16 I got around 2600 and that's not good
Mind BDL 7mm shoots 1 1/2" at a 100 and mind is dead on at 200yds same as my 270 BDL Rem 700 and at 300yds it's only drops 5 to 6" shooting the cheapest I can fine but federal shoots the best out of my guns and still a 3" group not sure a 770 is as Accurate as the gun made before 2000 I have a 1966 270 and a 1999 7mm they both shoot great with 130gr.for 270 & 150 in my 7mm and I love them both
Norma is good stuff... I shoot a wildcat 7 mm based off 7 mm weatherby case... Shoot 195 grainers at 2950 ft per sec... . 75 inches at 2 hundi with handloads.
Absolutely love your content man so dont think im trying to be a dick/snob or whatever else, but either that rifle is wildly inconsistent, you’re missing shots, or ur rifle doesnt like that ammo at all, or im spoiled as hell with my tikka with the mdt hnt26 chassis in 7 mm rem mag cause those groupings are kinda too far apart to get a very definitive result
I noticed that 7 mag has a see thru mount which puts the scope center much higher above the bore than a standard mount. You should do your viewers a favor and show them how this high scope mount position will change the trajectory tables from the standard 1.5 in. above bore mount.
Ther has to be a problem with barrel loose lug to stock .I would like to see you add shooting over crony . . I shoot lots of long range . If you load more than one round there will be a different way the powder is sitting . Stand each round up. Pick one round a a time . And load same way not perfect for hunting but for a grouping test I find factory rounds have a large difference in bullet speed.not trying to start a fight I enjoy your videos
I would always use steel scope rings and mounts. Like the leupold dovetail type. If that dont fix its the optics turrets. You can waste a lot of ammo sighting in cheaper mounts and optics.
I must be learning something. I guessed it would have about a 3 inch drop at 200 yards and that's about what you averaged. That was some odd vertical stringing.
