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Overall the video wasn't bad but one of the biggest things that most people overlook as did this video is the cooling capability of the laptop. After you're set on a specific gpu and processor, the immediate next thing you should look at is whether the laptop can cool those components. If it can't, then youll get thermal throttling and performance issues and you won't get the performance that you paid for. Look for the number of heat pipes, fans, and exhaust ports. Also worrying about the loudness of fans is pretty silly in gaming laptops.
Agreed. I mean my gaming laptop is silent when i need it and i have power when i need it. How does someone buy a gaming laptop and bitch about fan noise is beyond me. If anything, that noise under load gives me assurance that my thermals are being taken good care of.
@@stephanieb7330 I know its common for people to not like the loudness if fans but with laptops more oriented towards gaming (I believe yours has a 1650ti graphics card) there is no way around fan noise. A more work oriented laptop i agree should prioritize fan noise level more, but I wouldn't expect a work computer to have the same hardware as a gaming laptop. Components need to be cooled, otherwise you'll get the thermal throtting and problems that I mentioned in my previous comment. Back when I used a laptop for gaming, I would use MSI's fan boost setting to kick the fans into a higher rpm than they would automatically go. Was is loud? Yeah, but the cooling was very impressive for a modern gaming laptop. Any quality pair of headphones will also make the fan noise disappear. These days I have my pc that I built with a total of 12 fans all running about 85% speed. Its pretty loud, but even with open back headphones, you cant even hear it. In the end, theres no way around fans unless you sacrifice performance and as long as they're cooling things properly, i say you should embrace the cooling power lol
@@Name548 nah mine just has a plain 1650. I am actually a student and i really wanted to not spend a lot of my parents money. So yeah for the college i just put it on silent mode (i mean we don't really need the power there). Then when i want to game i just put it on performance and m good to go. Btw i too want to build a pc one day by myself(couldn't do it rn bcz being a student portability is a must for me)
@@sajalpatil6592its same for me. Plus it isn't really a gaming laptop. It has the pieces and hardware for it but it just... isn't? Like more intensive games will lag and won't perform as well. Also, the fans would just go off after a few minutes of jist browsing the web. The cores would also reach 100+ degrees without doing anything so I'd say the cooling system was rubbish anyway
Honestly i almost went out and bought a high end PC but then again i'm a student in a crammed apargment and i move every year and i think getting a laptop might be a better solution. Never really owned a laptop before tho, especially a gaming one at that, and looking at the prices i'm just in shock, i could get a gaming pc and a regular laptop for the price of one of these laptop beasts. I'm currently split between getting a full size PC or getting a mid range laptop, do you think a midrange laptop would do well in some csgo, maybe AutoCAD and some other programs? I was thinking about getting Nvidia Now for playing other games but CSGO is really latency sensitive.
@@stormyfac8670 Not my case, the ROG Zephyrus series has no built-in webcam, and the only accessory come in the box is power supply. but this is not a big problem for me, I am very satisfied with the thin bezel. (also the price lol)
Lmao this dude talking about battery life on a gaming laptop, who in tf plays cs:go in a park or the cafe I mean im pretty sure that 99% of people who use gaming laptops always keep their laptops plugged in 🤣
This video is so good.it summarizes all the researches I've done in the last weekend... Wish I had watched this earlier. Mandatory for all back to school gaming laptop purchaser.
@@Shouko91 Its the use of tracking that every website you use, they all track everything you do, how many types you scroll, how long your active, and how frequent you search. All of these are feeding the algorithm, not youtubes but rather I should not speak more.
I got the acer predator Helios 300 i7-10750H and I'm happy with it. Very nice and for $1200. One complaint is if you rest your hand over the headphone jack the mic sounds really bad
I've just bought everything you've mentioned in my lenovo gaming laptop, RTX2060 115w, 144HZ, AMD and I love it, all for £900. Replacing my MSI I had for 6 years which done me v well. Nice video 👌
Mistake number 100, buying base on NICE INTERNAL temperatures only. DONT FORGET ABOUT THE SURFACE TEMPERATURES TOO! YOU WILL NOT ENJOY PLAYING WITH YOUR 100 GHZ CPU CLOCK SUPERDUPERBOOST IF YOUR LEFT HAND IS GETTING ROASTED ON THE LEFT PALM REST OF THE LAPTOP.
Bro u rock! Thank you so much for the advice. You always research a lot, create highly detailed videos which I really love and your hard work definitely shines!
Thanks for the video! Watching ur video makes me think your the guy to ask: For a Side hobby, becoming a Twicth streamer of rpgs, and the video editing / podcast-ripping that goes with it, what are the Top 3 Laptops you would suggest. Anything
I replaced the fan system twice while under warranty, now the fan system is out again, needs a board, 2 others things estimated repairs 1200,) lol looking for a new one now. Won't be msi
#5 and #8 are me. Just snagged a Dell G7 7590 for ~$1600 with a 2080 max-q, thanks to Dell's sale on it. Since I'm on a 3-4 year upgrade cadence, a deal like that rocks. Plus, I know I'll be good with a hex-core for that amount of time.
I believe with my Alienware M17 r3 i avoided all the pitfalls 1. I'll figure out the optimus settings later 2. Why would i need a webcam? 3. No Fear for Amd 4. Got the GPU that suits my needs best 5. It was a crazy deal on Dell with a 1 year warranty 6. No 300hz display = More battery life for me yay 7. I love Dell and Alienware 8. Same as Number 5, CRAZY DEAL, saved 700 dollars
At so many corners of the internet people are saying, “DONT BUY GAMING LAPTOP, BUILD PC”. The truth is, you’re going to find a way to justify your purchase whatever it is you buy. I had an Acer Aspire 750g for 8 years- not exactly the best laptop, even at the time but it lasted me until 2020 thanks to my ssd upgrade- It’s still a fast computer, good for school, browsing and light programming. I’ve built 2 gaming PC’s since then and love having them, but being able to untether yourself is a HUGE perk. If gaming is the only thing you want to do, sure. Build a PC and save the money, or buy a console if you’re that strapped for cash, but You can do so much more than just game. Think of it as a tool and invest wisely. People spend upwards $600-$1100 on a smartphone with a fraction of the capability, but the same people think twice before buying a laptop. Do your own research and stop trusting the tech you tubers blindly.
My ROG needed numerous items replaced under warranty: screen, speakers, cord receptacle, etc. which were all physical items, no software issues. I had to follow strict rules to send it back, having to create a custom box and I had to pay the $35 for shipping!! When I got it back, absolutely nothing on my list had been repaired. Not only that, my computer was scratched, the stickers half peeled off that say Microsoft, Intel, etc., it was put back together with the components not lined, up, so you see the insides of the computer on one side, it had the black screen of death and would not function, the cord was wound so up tight that it was broken and caused a short, the battery no longer charged, and they deleted everything from my computer, which was completely unnecessary, and they didn't back anything up. So I lost all my info, and ASUS broke my computer! ASUS told me they don't have a repair center, so they hire out repairs. Since they had many complaints about that center, they would no longer use them. ASUS has never, ever replaced or repaired my laptop that they damaged and also failed to repair it under warranty, as they agreed to. I have spoken to them and filed claims numerous times. They failed to give me an RMA# and failed to send me a shipping label. When I call them, they say they don't pay for shipping, and its out of warranty, as if I'm calling them for the first time. They have absolutely ignored all responsibility for essentially destroying my computer.
it's the opposite today, AMD has better alternatives and options in all price ranges it's just whether you trust their drivers and future support for their GPUs.
Dunno if it's true but I think the current Ryzen 4000 mobile APUs had a limited PCIe lanes (x8 instead of x16) for mobile GPUs. Let's just hope that AMD will addressed that issue next year with Ryzen 5000 series mobile APUs.
I bought a 2018 Alienware 15 r3 that has a i7 7820hk and a gtx 1070 with 8gb vram and 16 Gb of ram. Do you think this was a good option? I personally love the laptop and have had absolutely no issues at all
how to tell whether a machine has a MUX switch or uses Optimus? Many websites/manufacturers don't actually say is it something you can check from the Device Manager, if you have access to a demo unit?
Just bought Legion 5i 15" i7 10750h, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060, 1TB SSD and 500 nits 240hz screen for $1200, should arrive within a week or two, it has everything I want and hope it will last a long time.
I'm trying to get a gaming laptop this month during the sales, and this guy has been more helpful then most vids I've seen. Im still on edge to pick the right one for me, if im paying rent money for a laptop. I'll want some something I can also upgrade as I go throughout the year, something I can possibly play some console base games like cod, hitman, gears. 144hz is my sweet spot, and can do a bit of photo/video editing. I've seen what amd can do so im open to that as well.
@@adelgado8917 try looking for an HP laptop. I heard they’re high in build quality. HP pavilion 15 gaming laptop with an i7 could be a good choice. I’m looking at an i5 model myself. Hope it helps.
Excellent video, great points. I just bought an Alienware M15 R3 and thankfully did my homework, but the Optimus/mux switch/no iGPU situation is so confusing.
@@thaita2873 I love it! Really glad I bought it. It's slim, sleek, and despite everything you hear about hot CPU temps, if you know what you are doing, it's easy to tune it down and still get amazing performance.
@@crysis1174 I've got the 144hz + G-sync screen. If you want Optimus, you need to get either the 144hz or the 144hz + G-sync. The 300hz and OLED options have no Optimus.
forget about built in webcams these days it's better to have external web cams which are better and replaceable and you don't risk your privacy when you don't even have a web cam built into your system in the first place.
Recently bought an HP Pavilion 16 gaming laptop from Best Buy, 10th Gen i5, 8g RAM, 512GB SSD w/Optain, GTX 1660ti, and a 144hz 1080p screen for $699 on sale. It's done fantastic and plays the less intense games that I play, like Baldur's Gate 3, better than my Alienware Aurora R7
Biggest mistake you could make is buy an Alienware...memory is soldered to the motherboard no possibility to add more RAM and worst than this, the laptops are hotter than the Sun's core !
I think the number one biggest mistake buying a laptop you did not even mention. Always buy laptops around black Friday/Cyber Monday. I purchased a few weeks ago an Omen 15" 8gb gtx1660ti 4800H for $849. Upgraded to 16gb 3200mhz CL22 ram for 50 bucks. I am a happy camper. The money I save goes to my next laptop. Instead of getting the latest and greatest and spending an arm and a leg, buy trailing edge technology at black Friday and use the hundreds of dollars towards your next upgrade that will also be trailing edge instead of bleeding edge.
He's right. I had to let go of my Asus rog gtx970m but it was still playing even the most demanding games. Now I don't know what to get. Looking at the omen 17 i9 version but I've been hearing amd is a better processor for gaming so I'm just lost
Informative video bro. Been watching videos to get info on what laptop to get to do video editing. The more I watch the more i get confuse. Information overload! Budget is $1500 CAD. Need 16G ram. Any suggestions?
I got a ("seemingly") powerful gaming laptop in 2017. No knowing about optimization, I played the Destiny 2 beta and, well... *_TRAYASH!!!_* It played Doom pretty well, but the Wolfenstein games an Destiny 2 beta were just atricious. Only Borderlands Pre-Sequel played near perfectly. I wish there was a program that just automatically switches between full funcionality and best gaming specs.
Reviews on amazon were amazing so I bought it.. I got: -Super loud fans at idle -Screen bleed and screen flickering -battery that last max 1h when gaming -Dramati frame drops when playing freaking Rocket league.. how pathetic I got a faulty product, but the fans running loud even when doing nothing is a very common issue. Sorry for the rant but im never going back to Acer, screw whay this guy says about not avoiding a company Acer actually just sucks
I'd spend the extra hundred bucks or so and get the triton 300 with a 240hz display, that makes the screen so much better. It's almost the same computer as the helios 300 but as the other guy said there were lots of problems with his helios and the triton has a better build quality and is in a slimmer package. It's your choice at the end of the day though
I just ordered my first gaming laptop, I've never had a pc sooo... It's a Lenovo L340 i5 GTX 1650 and it was $419 at best buy as a deal. I watched some videos on it and it have mostly play current titles but I'll just have to be at medium/high graphics settings in games, I can go ultra in some but I'll have to undervolt and stuff
I’m trying to get a gaming laptop with 240hz+ and a 1660 or better that’s not insanely expensive my price range is 1000-1300 I play fortnite and call of duty could you help me find one
You made A LOT of very good points and just good info in general in this video, Thanks! This is the first video I seen from your channel but I instantly subbed :P
Tbh even in 2021 getting a laptop with parts considered "last gen" at the time of this video's upload is still a very decent option! In 2019 as a Christmas present i got a Dell G7 7588 laptop which has both a GTX 1060 Max Q and an Intel core i7-8750H and it's still Very serviceable to this day for gaming, at least. I'm not so sure about the more workstation related stuff though as that's not really my focus lol. Plus, there are still very few games, at least from what I've seen so far, that require anything above older components like GTX 900 series gpus, so really older hardware like this shouldn't be much of a problem for at least another good couple of years or so from the looks of it. So yeah in these current times this older hardware is still Very viable for regular use, especially as a budget option for those who still may need a laptop, and it'll likely last you quite a while as well :)
Im not a computer expert like him but with 25ms you can get some ghosting which will be kind of noticeable in demand fos tittles but since you choosed a 4k i think you a4e more of a creator guy wo with 25ms is not bad if yu are mostly doing creative workloads but if you gane a bit it will be a bit noticeable has it been noticeable to you?
@NiceGuyGamer maybe you can get the Silm 7i version if you want but unfortunately it only comes with Intel CPU currently 😔 I bought Legion 5 because thickness size and weight is not my priority as I'm not carrying around most of the time but rather built quality, screen colour & ryzen CPU (and price) is a consideration for me instead
What about screen response time. How important is that for causal gamers. I hear asus g14 has horrible screen response time. Does it matter? Which laptop would you consider better asus zephyrus m15, omen 15, legion 5i
The legion is the only one of those that has a mux switch. Omen has quality control problems and is more expensive. As for the screen, it seems to vary. I’ve seen some competitive gamers say low response panels like the A15 don’t bother them, other said it was horrible.
@@DrMrPersonGuy This screen response is the only thing holding me back from g14. does mux actually help the battery life that much. What i read, legion only had one hour more of batter life than m15, in light use. I was thinking of m15 because it has thunderbolt, possibility of using external gpu, four five years later (more future proof in a way)
@@SA-uz9sn percentage-wise from what I’ve seen, optimus does add about 40% battery life. As for egpu, I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s not very good, but I haven’t researched it myself.
I am really confused. I contacted Dell today and they told the model *Alienware M17 R3* (the specifications that I had chosen) did not have NVidia Optimus. Please advise.
Great video! I’m thinking of getting a gaming laptop and this was super helpful. Also awesome house! You should do a house tour video sometime. Your house looks really futuristic.
I’ve been looking at what gaming laptop to buy for the past weeks and then I got this video haha thinking about the Asus Zephyrus m15. Can’t decide between the cheaper one (1300) or the one that’s almost 1600$ .. don’t know much about computers at all but this video was helpful 🥺❤️
I am sort of in the same situation! I heard that the m15 has some issues with thermals. I think I am picking the zephyrus G14 with the AMD ryzer 9, 16gb ram. Look it up on bestbuy and let me know what do you think.
If u put ur mind in m15 don’t buy the 1299(on sell now 1150) the screen colour is a disappointed because of the sRBG only %66 and brightness 250 but the the other 1080p 240hz is %100 sRBG with brightness 300 soo good for the eyes so beautiful its 1570$ now but the put it on sell last month around 1300$ just wait for the sell on best buy .. and make the cap limited for 120fp for the noise
Always get a laptop with a mux switch Optimus gives a performance hit PERIOD not just at high frame rates. Who cares if you have to restart to apply mux switch changes that’s a small price to pay. SSD boots up in what 15 seconds
i have a alienware 13 r3 with a gtx 1060 and i7-7700hq that hits 100C on the cpu for 1 minute of stress test and always throttles during gaming and undervolting the cpu is locked :( when will they unlock that? there is almost nothing for the user in the bios....
even im not into gaming laptop anymore. i would recommend to you guys to buy legion, i had y520 for 3 years and it run perfectly even i once spill the laptop full glass of water on it. anothwe best thing it cooling system is awesome i played tons of games including witcher 3 without worrying about hot temp. if im gonna buy gaming laptop again one day, ill definitely go to legion
I have a Dell G5 15. Problem I have is the frames are very slow and laggy, but when I use my power cable everything is perfect. Although I stress that this will damage my battery, because I need to use the power cable most of the time. Could I ask for assistance please?
There are no mistakes in buying a laptop. People stay within their means and Laptops cost money! Those who want all the best GPU and CPU - let them send their money! I never use my laptops outside the home and I have 10 of them. 6 are mining - the others are for gaming. The batteries are never used - they are always plugged in - so all batters have either been removed or unplug from the inside to save the life of the batteries.
Hi, planning to buy laptop by the end of this month. I have 4 options, should i go to this m15 r3, zephyrus g14, zephyrus gx531, or the razer blade. I do programming,heavy gaming , video and photo editing as well. Thank you sir
✌🏻😗 thank god my friend is a computer nerd and my school is full of exchange students with tons of gaming laptop knowledge. I jumped in blindly and they completely saved me and told me what I needed to look for. I’m new to gaming on PC and damn it’s confusing
xXFlippyXx100 I haven’t bought it yet, I’m waiting for my paycheck but I have decided I’m getting the asus zephyrus M15. My friends recommended the G15 instead but it didn’t have an RGB keyboard amd it was smaller than what I wanted so I decided on this one instead. the G15 is cheaper too. It’s better if you want a smaller, more lowkey gaming computer
I just got an Alienware m17 r3 from Best Buy for 1700 for the simple fact I kept having issues with other laptop. I was looking at the Dell g7 and the manager gave me a good deal. Honestly I don’t feel it will be a worth while wait for the 30 series cards. I agree new technology could increase FPS, however one thing to keep in mind is power limits..the new 30 series cards take over 100 watts more power in their desktop counter parts, pending which gpu you would chose.
Is it worth buying a laptop that still has warranty? I can get a 1060gtx laptop with a decent CPU for 2-400EUR less with no warranty, or pay more and maybe get 1660 or 2060.
Thanks man. Looking to study IT next year and I need an ok laptop for programming and I'd like to be able to actually play a game without breaking the bank. Considering the Asus TUF FX505DV Ryzen 7 3750H, RTX 2060 with the 120Hz display. I literally can't find anything that comes close to that bang for buck in my country.
Michael Deyzel the Ryzen 7 3750 is really bad, try finding a 4000 Ryzen processor or else the rtx will be severely bottlenecked in game along with a machine that doesn’t run as well as something you could get for cheaper lol
I recommend getting a laptop with a gtx 1660 ti and a good processor card, it’ll be around the same price range and you’ll get way better performance in games because the gpu won’t be bottlenecked. Plus it’ll be an overall better machine
@@ok2e123er Thank you very much for the advice. You might just saved me from making a bad buy. Ill check if I can find a good loptop with the 1060 ti. Won't the 2060 long term be better, I'm not super informed about these things. Otherwise I'll check for a 4000 ryzen chip.
@@Jamal-wu7zl I luckily checked the website I am going to buy the loptop from and they have a new model of the Asus TUF A15. Ryzen 7 4800, 15.6' FHD 144Hz screen and and a GTX 1660 Ti 6Gb graphics card. I did check the Lenovo Legion Y540 i7, but the Asus will have newer tech than the Y540 has at the moment and the Asus is a few bucks cheaper and has a RGB keyboard.
Guys, my laptop is broken so I'm getting a new one can I get a suggestion on getting a new one? My price range is like 700-1k? Thanks guys I don't need help anymore
You can go with ryzen5 to ryzen 7 or i7 10750h gtx1650 to 1660ti laptop ,I think these are the maximum spec for that price range with some other hardware compromising Acer nitro, Asus TuF, Lenovo legion,hp Omen, hp pavillion, eluktronics mag 15,xmg, Asus Zephyrus g14,dell g5 SE are some AMD laptops for the price point.
Yeah we had a crappy Acer destop years ago and when it died, the repair guy was like "yeah Acer is crap". And really things haven't changed all that much from what I've seen so they're off limits. HP as well. I think getting a Razer Blade would be cool but for some reason I can't bring myself to trust them either.
I’m pretty clueless. I’m wanting to spend preferably below £1000. The only games I’m interested in really are RTS games. I mainly want to play games like Warhammer Total War 1&2, maybe Bannerlord ?? And olds ones like Company of Heroes and Men of War Assault. I would like to run these with everything maxed out (I don’t mind if 1080p)... Any suggestions would be good. Have been looking at Legion Laptops and RazorBlade 15...
Just subbed... amazing stuff... ur recommendation for 2020 laptop for gaming... in my recent shocking discovery my ge 75 raider 10 sgs with optimus and 2080 super 150 watts lost big time to discreet 2080 super max q without optimus in ge66... by quiet a huge margin in games...
My husband plays computer games on disc. Are there any decent, not too expensive game laps that have the drive installed or would it be more prudent to get an external drive?
in the future your husband is only going to end up playing on a external disc drive from here on out and get one laptop with a great reliable passive USB 3 slot.
just got a lenovo legion 5i i7 gtx 1660ti. i found it it has intel graphics so i have to switch back and forth. can i do this on this laptop completely ?
No current gen macbooks are being hardware bottlenecked specifically regarding their cooling structure. Next gen macs with the new in house chipsets will be very worth it however if you can wait a few months
lseul either are the 2020 Blade 15/17 adv and they not only have the 8core cpu but a RTX 2080 Super unlike the macs all while keeping a similar formfactor..
Bro i have a doubt. How many FPS runs Fortnite? I don't know much about computers, but I'm very interested in this one. I mainly want to use it to play fortnite and use editing programs. Btw nice video! You won my suscription and like.
I bought a razer blade 15, 16gb ram, intel i7 10750h and gtx 2060 maxq and 512gb nvme for $1350. I am planning to upgrade ram to 64 and add a 1tb nvme. Do you guys think this is a good machine for phoroshop and illustrator graphic Design work? Or have a better recomendation for the price. I dont play games much so performance on games I dont mind, I am interested more on design work.
I currently own an Acer Predator “laptop” (desktop replacement) that is absolutely amazing. It’s great quality, it’s VERY powerful, with awesome specs, and lots of upgradability. Yet I likely won’t buy another Acer. Why?? Acer have shown with this model that they have HORRIBLE support for their products. This model is especially unique because it’s honestly desktop parts that have been custom shaped to fit in a mobile case, yet they aren’t providing any of the same support their desktops are receiving, let alone even any support for over a year now, and are treating it like some $200 chrome book and not the $2400 beast it is. While every B450 motherboard received AGESA code that added optimizations and faster speed RAM support even prior to Zen 2’s releasing, they never provided these updates for this model and haven’t given a single BIOS update with any B450 improvements in the lifespan so far of the system. Why release a desktop fitted in a laptop if you don’t provide any of the advantages desktops enjoy that would factor into the customer’s decision to purchase this model vs a standard laptop?? And because the BIOS is locked AND encrypted, owners are prevented from being able to take matters into their own hands and make the updates themselves. There is a 15” desktop replacement Zen laptop from Clevo with near identical components that has enjoyed ALL the updates and improvements since it released and Clevo is even going to attempt to add Zen 3 upgrade capability if they can find a solution that works with their 16mb ROM size, but even if it doesn’t happen, they’ve already demonstrated proper support for this system is possible and already exists, but not with Acer. Even if the unique qualities are removed from the picture, there have been numerous driver and software issues that Acer still has yet to address despite their message forums FULL of stories of calls to customer care and complaints of Acer doing nothing and requests for help from others! Unacceptable for a $2500 product still under warranty! I will say, owners of this model are a close knit bunch simply because we have to help each other to find methods to fix our problems since Acer doesn’t. Acer’s engineering and hardware design team did a phenomenal job designing and building a remarkable machine with no other to compare it to, but the software choices to lock and encrypt the BIOS, to lock or omit common desktop settings normally on every desktop BIOS, not providing the same desktop BIOS updates when they release for all the rest, all make this a powerful example of wasted potential. There is nothing other than software locks that are keeping this machine from being capable of gaining a good 20% or more performance simply if it received system optimizations. If it were to also receive the code enabling an upgrade to a newer AM4 socket CPU, it could potentially be up to 80% MORE POWERFUL than its original capability! Likely more since it’s cooling solution is somehow better than most desktop liquid coolers and easily handles overclocking temps without thermal throttling. It’s sad to see that the design team provided the company with a system capable of still so much more, yet isn’t being taken advantage of.
