Its really funny when you think about it a god like stand that has achieved heaven in its third and most powerful stage's biggest weakness is our little buddy koichi
@@itspatess2350 It's even funnier when you realize it checks out. Pucci is just human with a close range stand that travels with him. Therefore, under Koichi's gravity trap he can't move; 0x1,000,000 is still 0.
Koichi is such a reliable guy, he traveled all the way from Japan to Italy, back to Japan, and then to Florida just to be reliable to Jotaro, what a nice reliable guy. 👍
@@apestogetherstrong341 it's not possible to get used to death if it differs each time. Even if hed get used to stuff like pain, there are plenty of other ways he could suffer besides physical emotional and mental trauma. He could for instance get frozen alive and remain conscious for a million years, rotting any conscious thought left, or live a happy life fulfilling life and die of old age, so on so forth. He literally cant be resistant to everything, as the human mind can only memorize so much info, so hed forget one resistance to make room for another. That is the power of Golden Experience Requiem 💀
The Kakyoin one was actually sick because of how realistic it is if he didn’t die in part 3. Like tbh Pucci would have a very rough time against hierophant green imo.
Also Kakyoin's stand wouldn't be catch up with the accelerated time as the stand is the soul of the user, souls literally is one thing that doesn't go with the accelerated time, so the attack would be snail slow speed to Pucci as well.
Seriously though, Rohan and Okuyasu are actually kind of scary together when you remember that the only thing stopping The Hand from being an endgame stand is the user being stupid and slow to react.
Same with trish in body swap episode (Pucci with trish's face in the thumbnail lmaoo) "KYAAAH there are hair on my fingerssss! why I had to be _mista_ " Mista: "is that really what you think about me (；4 ;)"
i love the idea at 4:00 that Jotaro just immediately freezes time again like "Look you're just gonna have to wait, I'm talking with a friend here Pucci" Okuyasu doesn't have the brains to realize he can't move in stopped time, it's easily his greatest power.
Actually considering how his pose changes between two shots in the final fight... With both shots being in Jotaro's timestop... Okuyasu just might be able to
@@z-r-e7056 Giorno has star birthmark, so just like all Joestars and Dio's offspring he'd be able to sense Pucci and everyone else. There was really no reason not to include him other than Araki wanting to reset the universe and have a hard reboot for the series instead of the usual soft reboot. It's fine, but it's still quite the plothole in part 6's ending.
@@mattia1026 it would have been cool if Giorno did show up but Pucci still managed to find a way to defeat them. Maybe Giorno's stand could have been nerfed in a similar way to how Star Platinum was nerfed so that it wouldn't be invincible
In all honesty I think Hierophants barrier is a great counter against Pucci's Made in Heaven. Dio was able to beat the barrier because frozen time gave him no chance to activate but emerald splash would still activate from the touch alone and the emeralds I think would move at the speed of time Pucci is making it so his super speed in canceled out right.
@@Justanaveragenoob8781 MiH's time acceleration speeds up anything that is non-living(like inanimate objects or corpses) so it would make Hierophant Green's emerald splash faster
@@Nobody-pf5fr Yeah that is what I was going off of, like with Emporio’s bullets. Also I think, depending on how it works, Echo 3 would beat Pucci MIH too.
@@wasabi5338 fun fact that in Anasui's first manga appearance he was a female , however when he returned and became a key character he was changed into male , same with Funny Valentine becoming fit
It's great to see that most of these what-if methods are based on the fact that Made in Heaven only accelerates time rather than gives Pucci invincibility like Time Stop or Time Erase. Even if Pucci can move at faster-than-light speed, he is still vulnerable against automatic or continuous Stands' power like Hierophan and Echo ACT 3.
slight problem with both echo and hierophant arguments considering the fact that this was when pucci was faster than the naked eye he could most likely one shot everyone, out speed hierophant's emeralds and also kill koichi or okuyasu before they do anything (except for the meme what ifs) it's greatly slowed down from real time where he kills two in one in less than half a second so he yes, would probably kill everyone or outspeed the emeralds the only TRUE what if scenario that I could think of where jotaro wins is he literally just murders pucci and lets his daughter die or maybe gold experience requiem but that's not elaborated on so it's likely it's only a limited time transformation or only activates based off of intent to kill (like diavolo) besides, first off, the ending is good as it is, second, why would morioh be here I am very sorry for ruining this, please feel free to argue against me or make counter arguments
@@randominternetuser7432 Hierophants barrier completely surrounds Pucci, any movement he makes would trigger a barrage of emerald splashes. His acceleration would work against him in this scenario, as it would send more and more barrages towards him. The more he struggles, the worse he makes it for himself. The only reason it didn't beat Dio is because Dio was able to destroy the barrier all at once and deal a fatal blow to Kakyoin all at once in stopped time. Now whether Pucci could deflect/parry the emerald splashes is a different story, but the initial barrages are at least going to get a few hits on him before he really knows what's going on. Then everyone else could still try to attack him while he's stuck in the barrier.
@@randominternetuser7432 There's one main theme with all of your arguments - you're forgetting the element of surprise here. Sure, from an even playing field, Pucci would probably wipe the floor with most opponents, but in every one of these cases he's not expecting an attack from an outside source, or a sudden retreat and surprise attack in the case of the Joestar Secret Technique. Now, for the individual cases: "It's the same type of stand as Star Platinum": This is a goof-off one based on how Part 3 Star Platinum could basically pull powers out of its ass to an extent, but it does also tie into a tongue-in-cheek theory that Star Platinum's true power is the ability to learn the powers of other stands over time. Made In Heaven vs Star Platinum: Made In Heaven would be an evened playing field, and it comes down to which ever stand has the most physical strength in a face-to-face fight. Emerald Splash: One thing we see with Made In Heaven's effect is that while living beings other than Pucci do not experience accelerated time while Made In Heaven is active, projectiles _do._ Which would mean that Hierophant Green's Emerald Splash would move in the same time frame as Pucci, not everyone else, and thus still be effective. Another way you could in fact beat Pucci under Made In Heaven is to just shoot him from multiple directions, because bullets would travel at accelerated speed at that point. Echos Act 3: This comes down to the element of surprise, like I mentioned. Although due to accelerated time I would assume that the gravity effect would actually be stronger and that Echos would have actually been able to crush Pucci outright, not just hold him in place. The Hand: The World: Again, element of surprise. Although I don't think Okuyasu would be smart enough to just use The Hand's normal ability to erase things against Pucci, and he'd instead just go for a stand rush. Side note, The Hand: The World is a memestand, this would never be able to happen in canon simply because The Hand never gets The World's time stop ability. Diavolo Death #2011: This actually relies on Pucci getting the kill with his thrown knives. Because Diavolo is the target for the knives instead of Jolyne, Jotaro doesn't need to worry about rescuing Jolyne in this situation and instead can just focus on Pucci. Also, because it's a Diavolo death, this scene is canon. Joestar Family Secret Technique: Once again, this relies on the element of surprise. Pucci expected Jotaro to save Jolyne first and then immediately attack. He didn't expect Jotaro to grab Jolyne and run, then come back afterwards and attack from a different angle.
@@goldsmith2459 yeah but what if he just runs out of the twenty meter radius but yes, a few emeralds might land but kakyoin is dead first off second it depends if his reactions are boosted judging by the fact he can dodge bullets and the emeralds seem to not move that fast he could probably react and dodge (also the emeralds are a stand attack so doesn't work which is why ghost gun isn't way too fast)
0:45 i like how everyone is riding on this "its the same type of stand" asspull even though jotaro just did it once on the series and once in a non-canon (?) game 😂
Bringing Koichi to the final battle is unironically a good idea considering that Pucci would not be able to detect him, since he isn’t an actual Joestar.
@@tonydagamerforlife5440 Weight is simply the affect that gravity has on you, so it is gravity related, which brings up the question: could Koichi achieve heaven?
@@strangevol5264 act 1 and 2 are basically just reality warping stands. Act 3 is a gravity stand, so who knows really. But definitely act 3 could probably defeat pucci. By maybe imbuing more gravity to something... So when Pucci approach it with them on it. Star platinum could just stop time and beat Pucci
It is funny how I imagined people making what-if scenarios of other characters beating Pucci whenever Part 6 anime was out like 1-2 years ago. What a time to be alive and see this imagination of mine being real.
I always liked the what if Scenario, where Notorious B.I.G. just gets really angry at everything moving fast and just comes to attack Pucci because he's now the fastest thing in the world.
0:00 If Jotaro Kujo and Star Platinum managed to stop time and beat Pucci 0:52 If Kakyoin managed to survive DIO’s attack and faked his death 1:53 If Koichi Hirose was Adopted by Jotaro Kujo 3:13 If Okuyasu Nijimura got Za Hando: Za Warudo and followed Jotaro Kujo 4:26 If Jotaro Kujo froze time and beat Pucci but ft. Diavolo in his 2012nd death 5:30 If Giorno Giovanna and GER reversed Time Acceleration set by Father Pucci 7:10 If Jotaro Kujo used the Secret Joestar technique by Joseph Joestar
Jotaro literally had an aperience in every part Part 1: in the op Part 2:in the post credits scene in the last ep Part 3-4-6: he's an or is the mc in these parts Part 5: when koichi reported to jotaro
Gonna love how JJBA is one the rare anime fandom who good at meme editing anime, combine with the JJBA part 6 have "bad ending" makes people want to edit the "alternative ending" even more
I barely watch any other animes, so i have no idea what other anime fandoms and their memes are like. (Probably a lot of cringey cute anime girl garbage, if i had to guess.)
Actually Okuyasu's ability is probably the most powerful stand ability and might have won against MIH if he was there. Stands seem to work in the same way quirks do in MHA, where the quality that defines a stand can be stretched to all of its definitions. For star platinum speed became time stop because he reached the speed of light basically, hermit purple had scrying powers and was able to create a map to a specific object the user wanted, hierophant green had paint-y powers and could create broad strokes to make a web, jolyne's strands could similarly make a web or rope or even rearrange her body to survive being twisted and turned. Okyuasu's erasure might have been extendable to mean he could simply erase the effect of any other stand power, as long as he could use it in good time. While he might not have been able to do anything once something like time stop triggered, he would probably have been able to erase the speedup caused by MIH if not erase MIH entirely, if he was a main character. We've seen plenty of other stand abilities being pushed to the limit of their definition (zippers creating portals or detaching body parts, gold experience becoming sentient itself instead of just making objects sentient, etc.)
I mean araki did say that The Hand can erase whatever Okuyasu wills to be erased, even abstract things like space, during his intro episode. So this seems pretty valid to me.
Pucci: let this nightmare end Diavolo: first time Kars: *can't say anything due to being in space* Dio: at least you tried also that's my son Kira: I just wanted a quite life
@@normalasian5042 I'd jizz myself if it was revealed that something along the lines of the eyes of heaven crossover was gonna be the ending. I truly believe Araki can do that very well.
It isn't lol. Even if giorno had requiem stand active it won't ever be possible for giorno to revert time acceleration to zero cuz pucci actions isn't towards him and not evil
I mean Giorno is one of a few people who weren't affected by Pucci accelerating the universe to its end then causing a new universe being born in the Jorge Joestar novel. Another was Rohan who hadn't noticed because he locked himself in his room for crunch-time to finish some work and just was oblivious to the universe being born and ending like 30+ times
