8GB of RAM for your Mac is enough 

Actually?

you soundlike it tho

that'd be crazy

yea thats to hard to impliment

wow i wonder if that already exists hmmmmm

i wish it happened, im tired of downloading more ram whenever i need some

Nah that's some alien technology that may come out in 20 years

Very short sighted view. Companies always charge a multiple of what it takes them to make something, not just for increasing profit but also to cover expenses for development, business risks etc. Those expenses and risks are never considered in your kind of calculations. Apple could easily charge less for the individual upgrades and instead charge more for the base models for an example. Then you couldn’t complain about “overpriced” upgrades, but would that really be better? I don’t think so.

@@helgaotto7801 Are you saying Apple is the only company that has to pay for R&D? If you go with any other laptop company and match spec for spec you are paying a LOT more for Mac book.

@@E4S65 ok? Are you deliberately leaving out so many things out of your equation or is that really the limit to your perception? Since when do people make purchasing decisions purely based on technical specs? They don’t, whether it’s computers, phones, cars.. the higher you go into the premium segments, the more other things besides tech specs play a role which also have to be researched and developed.

@@helgaotto7801 those things being what hm? genuine question because i literally cant think of anything asides from specs and design isn’t too difficult…

@@nsh.5p “Design isn’t difficult” 😂 ok. Then why is there barely any windows laptop which comes close to a MacBook in design and built quality? Capitalism is quite effective in that if the exact same thing was available for a cheaper price, over time the cheaper product would prevail. Apple can charge as much as they do precisely because there aren’t many (or any) alternatives when compared overall instead of just spec to spec.

But basically MacBooks comes with you know... M1,M2 or M3 Powerful chips and very efficient as well, top of the line displays, best speakers, best trackpad, keyboard as well and a metal body that will last your whole lifetime. Now, most if not all laptops that ship with Windows aren't even power efficient, have really poor display, poor speakers, trackpads that don't even work and plastic unibody that didn't cost much to design... so, why you paying $1600 USD for that HP Victus, Lenovo Legion , ASUS ROG?

@@ripjaydilla Simple, you don't. You get a windows laptop at like 300-500$ and if you really want a PC you build a true gaming PC (1500-2000$)

@@ripjaydilla The "most" you are referring to are budget laptops ($300-500), which have those poor displays, speakers, trackpads and plastic design. In my opinion, I think it is really stupid to compare a $500 laptop to a $1500. How about you actually compare a $1500 laptop to a $1500 laptop.

@@_nahwhat Please share a laptop that would beat this very M3 14 Mac at digital creation. Power, battery, display accuracy and trackpad. I’d be interested to know if I have better options at this price.

@@PotatoToon yeah I mean Mac is not for gaming. If I were to game I would currently get a PS5 or something. I much prefer quick scoping with my mouse and undeniably the better shortcuts on my keyboard but the experience on a PS5 is very nice and it’s very reasonably priced…

Yeah wasn't it so bad that M3 w/ 8/256 was slower than M2 w/ 16/512 config? Honestly seems like bad marketing move, just to save a few $, basically pushing people to buy older device.

I don't think he was wrong, he talks about the avarage person. The avarage person doesn't need more than 8. At the end he also explains that the pricing is high and "Pro" users need more ram, no matter how efficient mac ram can be

​​@@SamAlexandrosHe is wrong, because he talks about the $1700 Mac pro. There is no excuse for that only having 8GB. He doesn't just say average person either since he wanted to go in and mention professionals and calla himself a power user because he makes some vids and runs a basic script here or there. A true professional that utilizes resources to a power user level can easily point out why 8GB is limited. This guy goes about an iPhone as if that makes a case at alll for waht folks do on an actual laptop professionally. No one is talking about an iPhone a totally different device and use case. We're talking about MacBooks. Professionals may have needs for multiple OS's to include VM, compiling, running servers, running IDE's, web browsers, etc. and thinking crappy swap makes up for it is a bad take on his end. Especially on an expensive device incapable of swapping out storage. You also misquote him as he literally said 8GB is great for everyone regardless and more than efficient for everybody which isn't true.

​@kerrydaniels8460 you're a pc user, I can just tell that from you saying "VM". Try a silicon mac first.

@triviabitesshorts You don't even know what VM is. I can tell. I have all 3 major OS's including a Mac. I actually work professionally as a tech consultant. I can tell you have no clue or expertise to speak period on this. Move along.

Did you watch the video?

@@Queenalfa995 blud can't even watch a 9 minutes video lmao probably a tiktok guy

Very obvious you didn’t watch the whole video.

​@@achuuuooooosuu you can understand it because he used the skull emoji

nuh uh

couldn't have said it better

yeah Apple Explained said it perfectly. Its one of Apple's biggest scams.

hey there! never said swap memory was exclusive. appreciate your take though. thanks for watching!

​@@notrottenappleYou did say 8GB is equivalent to 16GB which isn't true at all. Not even close. I like your videos, but sometimes you are wrong on certain things. You explanation on RAM compacity being double is false and you underplay the effects of swap. Degrading SSD on a non-replaceable SSD is a huge deal on an expensive device. Swap also is nowhere near as fast as RAM which degrades performance for sure more than your video seemed to portray it. If you had just stuck to saying 8GB on the Air I would have been more inclined to give a pass since you can get those for $650 now, but you lumped on $1700+ pro laptops and compared that to an iPhone as if a phone is the same as a laptop or something. The fact you brought up the phone as some sort of "gotcha" says a lot. No offense, but you seem unaware of many types of professional workloads. If you're buying a $1700 laptop really shouldn't be compromises like that and being able to run something sub optimally isn't what true professionals spending that kind of money are doing. Not to mention, many can't run their workloads at all on it. Especially with crappy swap. Just making you aware is all.

8GB is minimum specs. 16GB minimum is the ACTUAL RECOMMENDED minimum gor it amongst many if not MOST professional power applications. This guy doesn't understand more advanced workloads though. He brought an iPhone into a discussion over pro laptops which doesn't make sense at all. He also told people 8GB is the exact same as 16GB which trust me IS NOT how RAM works. That is like saying 1 house is the exact same as two houses. No. Not how that works.

Depends what you do with your computer. You use more memory (RAM) as you open up and run different things. When you run out of physical memory your system will start swapping between the physical memory and virtual memory on your storage drive. This means you can still open up more things even when you use up all your physical memory but this will make your system more slow and sluggish when you run out. Storage is what you use to store your own files and apps as well as things like the operating system. It’s important to figure out if you want to store large files like video photos or audio on your computer itself. 1TB sounds like a lot but it can fill up fast if you try to store media of any kind and once it fills up you have to figure out a different solution to save things or delete/move files. There is no “virtual storage” so when you run out of space you flat out can save anything else on your full drive until you clear up space. You can also use external drives when you are running low on space but they are more slow and have to be plugged in to use them.

I would by gaming desktop not prebuilt instead of buying framework laptop if you buying framework laptop for gaming then it useless as it doesn't game at all, better you get desktop with better cpu and gpu.

@@RichardLionheart12 I use my steamdeck to play video games. The framework assumes the role of a productivity device for my photo and video editing, as well as 3D rendering and design. I also use it for school, and it functions as a pretty good device for watching documentaries as well.

Um… work needs RAM too. In fact generally more RAM than gaming does

He doesn't get it. He calls himself a power user, but doesn't get it. He brought up an iPhone as if people use phones for the type of professional work you do on a laptop or desktop. His defense was "oh, an iPhone has 8GB." Like what? Nobody is running full fledged workloads on an iPhone dude.

i mean i can run Figma with over a thousand frames on 4gb ram

I play mudrunner while running discord while on a FaceTime or run blender or run any goddamn thing I want to on 8 gigs of ram on my m2 people are delusional when it comes to saying “oh u needa be careful and only use it for light work” to those people I say-shut the hell up😂

If you're being serious you can overclock RAM in general. However, Apple's products don't have a comprehensive BIOS which would let you do that, and I haven't been able to find software to let you either.

just because your workflow is vastly different then mine doesn’t mean I’m “bullshitting”. I don’t play games on my Mac. I use it strictly for work and entertainment (like watching videos). I literally don’t have anything to gain from lying, I’m just sharing my experience. kiss my ass

how much did you pay for it

​@@ilfoxyy it was £1599. because it was the 15inch, its the newest macbook air

@BaseCatagain meh feels kinda like a scam, especially for that much money. When I upgraded my older lenovo laptop, buying 16 gb of ram (2 sticks of 8 gb ram) cost me 70€ (about 60£)

@@ilfoxyy I was meant to have a mac mini which costed about 600 but decided to get macbook air. i forgot to say that when i bought this it was actually about 500 because it was on a different website. If i actualy bought it for a price like that i wouldnt really think of it being scam and also i used 3 laptops in my past and they keep breaking easily, the first one broke because it fell of a sofa, the next one broke because the hinge just broke, and the 3rd one couldnt run anything because it keeps getting hot. But when i got a mac for the first time it feels amazing so its worth it for me

He doesn't get it. It's like saying 2 houses is the exact same as owning 4 houses, because 3 families live in one of the two houses. No. Not how that works. You don't get to claim that. When you need more RAM compacity sharing the lesser RAM compacity does nothing to change that. Same guy bringing up a phone as if people use a phone for their intensive production workloads. ?