Was thinking the same... Especially as someone from eastern europe, prices are roughly the same as in UK. Just checked prices in Slovakia and KTM 790 Duke goes for 9 400 euros which is 7 900 pounds so the same price essentially. It wouldnt be problem if in Slovakia we hadnt average monthly wage of 1 500 euros... In UK it should go around 2 800 euro (take it with grain of salt of course as it is government statistics and i do believe they are inflated). So yeah... For me, deff not an "affordable". Also driving licesnes went like 5x up... I did mine in like 2016 for 350 euro for a car, now its 1 200+. License on a bike is 650+. So, license + bike + gear as I dont want to die to a fly crashing to me on a highway... Crazy word we live in...
I bought the Triumph Trident 660 back in October. The other bike I was considering was the Yamaha MT-07, but the Yamaha’s suspension is junk. My local Triumph dealer gave me a good deal, so it was a no-brainer. I’m very happy with the Triumph.
It came down to those two for me two years ago. Ended up with the CB basically due to availability. I wouldn't trade it for the Trident now if offered. And I'm pretty sure I'd feel the same about the Trident had I purchased it. Trident is slightly more compact than the CB - so if you're a bigger guy that might be a factor.
@@shawnolson4522 If it is still possible, give it a Boosterplug. I did that on my -19 model and that made a big difference in the lower rpm's and midrange. Much stronger.
I'd go with the hondas. Hornet 750 because of its bland looks(hence can be considered as a sleeper bike in the category) and the cb650 is the best looking of the bunch coupled with its revvy nature!
Really good video, even tho there are so many good bikes in that class and the Hornet 750 being a better value for money, I couldn't help myself but ordering a 2024 CB 650 R this week. The coffee racer design and inline 4 just did it for me. Is it the best value? I don't think so, but it's the one my heart desires and in the end that's all that matters.
I just purchased a tiger sport 660. It felt a bit more punchy than the trident inspite of them having the same engine. There is a good price difference between the 2 though. But my need for a comfortable pillion seat was mandatory.
I’m a young rider, got my licence in august and bought my bike in September, I chose the trident 660. After doing my lessons on the CB 650, trying the mt 07 and the hornet 750 I decided to try the trident because I loved the looks so much and I was amazed. It was way above my expectations, a retro / modern looking bike which is playful and fast. You can do everything on this bike, go fast, « chill », long rides (it’s confortable, even for someone on the back), wheelings etc. Plus, you’ll be looked on the street because it is not a common bike AND it’s beautiful 😉 To everyone looking for a first (or not) bike, I strongly recommend the trident 🔱
I got a 2023 z650 exactly as pictured in the video. I did the tail delete as well as removing the passenger pad and pegs and replacing it with the stinger tail in metallic black. Also added Yoshimi Alpha full exhaust system. In carbon. Sending the ECU to Moore Mafia next week. Happy with it so far as a returning rider after 30 years. Cheers all.
I bought the Triumph Trident after watching your videos and I LOVE IT!!! Incredible bike. Really playful and fun and more than enough power for what you need on UK roads. costs around £18 to fill up the tank which is good for 160 - 180 miles. Best purchase I've ever made
Ended up buying the Hornet 750 last year, after considering the CB650R and the Tuono. I went through 3 bikes last year. Started out with the CB1000R (2019), then to a 900 Hornet (2002) and then onto the Hornet 750. The CB650R is a great bike, but just a smaller version of the 1000r. I test rode the Tuono factory, which i enjoyed, but was put off by the reliability issues of the engine. So decided on the Hornet 750. I took it out for a test ride twice. Once when it first came out, and just before buying one. It is so light, fun and flickable, probably because it has a narrow back tyre. I did feel it was a bit flighty at higher speeds, on the test ride. Not found that to be the case on my bike. Maybe the tyre pressures weren't bang on, when I rode the demo. Who knows? I would highly recommend riding as many bikes as you can, as its all very much down to your own perceptions. I've ridden sports bikes, tourers and super nakeds like the Tuono 1100 factory ( my Mate's). I am happy with my choice, as I can enjoy more of the bikes potential power, on the road. Plus for the price I paid, the bike has a lot going for it. I had the Quickshifter added, which is ok going up. Not so good coming down, imoa. The dash is great, and it comes with Bluetooth connectivity, as standard. You get turn by turn prompts on the screen, when you enable the Honda Roadsync app(which uses the maps on phone) Anyway, go ride them all, and decide for yourselves. Ride safe Peeps 🙏
Trident and CB650R would be my top choices. Both excellent offerings with unique character due to their not-another-bloody-parallel-twin engines. The Tuono isn't a naked bike any more than a Honda CBR650R is a naked bike.
Yes, the Tuono is faired to a degree, but the wide flat bars makes it feel like a naked bike. Best of both worlds in my view. I liked the Trident when I rode one but it’s too small, has some extremely cheap components on it, and that awful swing arm attached license plate holder.
@claesnorell8702 the merits of the Tuono are not in question. But given that a naked bike is defined by the stripping away of fairing and wind screen, and the Tuono has both, it is clearly not a naked bike. Add flat bars to a Fireblade and you don't have a naked bike.
Why do you care about labels? It's the swappable bars & seating position that make the Tuono a naked bike. The fact that the Tuono is the best looking of these choices would be another draw for me. Each to his own! 👍 @rogerp4612
No CFMoto? I have a 700CL-X, it's the same frame and mostly same engine as the Z650 but capacity upped to 700cc, better suspension, and it looks better too. Their EU site has the MSRP at 5999 Euro. Their new 800NK is using an LC8 engine from the KTM 790 and is coming in at 6999 Euro... Damn affordable for some sweet bikes
The Tuono tops the list for me (price aside). I have a lot of admiration for the SV ... It's a great bike, and looks very fine in its latest iteration. I really appreciate that Suzuki has stuck with it - it's tempting. The Honda CB650R ... the only I-4, sadly. It's a fine looking bike.
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Best budget naked? Than where is the benelli 752s, cfmoto 650nk, cfmoto 800nk, qjmotor srk700?
Great run down of the range! I bought the GSX 8S which where i live is the same price as the Hornet without a quick shifter. Also better mid range grunt, room and cornering. The Aprilia is 30% more expensive at standard and 19% more on special. Same price as a Street Triple R on special.
I was looking at all these bikes (GSX-8S wasn’t yet out) this summer and I ended up buying a new 2022 Tuono 660 Factory for £8699. I was tempted by the Hornet which was £6999 at the time but I didn’t want to await delivery and the Aprilia is just so much more bike for not too much more money. 2000 miles later, I have no regrets. Plan to put as many thousand miles on as I can manage in 2024.
I tend to agree. I wish it did have a similar top end to some of its competitors. But.. you know its going to be a bullet proof engine and the bike as a whole will just be sorted. The handling on good to average roads and the feel will be excellent.
@@frankensteinsgarage9632 Agreed. Some more top end would be nice but in reality most people don't use it much anyway on the road, if you want to keep your license that is. Got my eye on the GSX8R & Daytona 660 when they come out later this year. The Triumph's triple might be the best of both worlds with decent low to mid grunt & top end too.
@@frankensteinsgarage9632 i consider buying one. If you put on an aftermarket exhaust, air filter and flash the ECU you can gain as much as 12 horsepower peak, and even more through the midrange. It will make it more expensive but I bet it would transform it.
@ragerider6283 yeah that's true about the top end. It's nice to have but in this day where speed cameras are so prevalent. I don't want to loose my license. And bottom end grunt is great for street riding. I'm keen to have a ride of both of those bikes 660 and the 8R. Should make for some fun bikes even the odd track day
@@frankensteinsgarage9632 Yep exactly my thoughts. Will check them both out & see which appeals to me most. If I get one I will no doubt think I should have bought the other lol.
Im currently in the market for a bike and the SV650 is the one I've been looking at the most, its different enough because of the V-Twin engine, your comment is pretty much the same thing I've read from almost all comments about the bike. The other thing people mention is how "old" the bike is, but I feel that they're almost picking at things to fuss about (this is coming from someone whos never ridden or owned one of them)
@@-Eternal-Damnation- It is a really good bike, and can do "distance" Touring work as well as fun in the twisties. I fitted a rack and Screen and it works lovely I have seen a few second hand ones for as little as 5.5k,
I wouldnt put a single cent into KTM 790. Tried it and the feel is so cheap, instead go for CF MOTO NK 800 Advance, since they are already building engine for KTM, they got plenty of features for that price.
Very hard choice. And only because there are so many options. Heart wants Aprillia. But too expensive. Especially here in Australia. The Suzuki looks the most substantial. Just looks quality built and apart from the tail light does look good. But, I like bikes that have a top end rush. Honda Hornet sounds like it has the engine and price that I want. But the looks are so bland. Hmmmm... maybe I'll just get a 12 month old Z900 🤷♂️
I'd go for the Trident, I think. One that never seems to get considered for these lists is the Benelli 752s. It's a decently priced, decently performing bike.
My choice is the upcoming, we hope, Honda Hawk 750, a retro-themed version of the Hornet. Since the Hawk isn't out yet, it's between the Hornet and the KTM, with the KTM's looks tipping the balance to the Honda. And the Honda doesn't even look that good!
Got a Z650 2023 as first bike. 68hp are more than enough for me. I've put an exhaust and ecu tune on it and I can't ask more than this from my experience. The only bikes I might consider are the Tuono 660, GSX8S and the CB650R because they have bright color schemes and an exhaust that stays under the engine. I also like the 790/890 because of the exhaust clearing the view of the rear wheel. Too bad for the Trident 660 which was the bike I was going to buy the same exact day I took the Z. The Trident seat felt like a condom and in real life wasn't good looking as in pictures and video. Also black bikes aren't my taste, so I was looking for the white/red one. And it also feels heavy a lot more than the spec sheet says (which is wrong too). The Z felt right, the bar and the footpegs were strange at first because I trained on a Gladius 650 with the SV650 engine. But the lightness... It felt like a bicycle between the legs. The purpose of this bike was to commute. Yes the ecu remap will hinder the fuel consumption but since I will do ecu remapping... About the engine note of a 180 crank parallel twin: I don't dislike it. I actually like it when it's increasing or decreasing rpms, pops and bangs a lot. The original exhaust looks way better than 99% of the after market ones except for the LeoVince Underbody which isn't road legal nor available for euro 5 bikes. It's meh only when you cruise along at the same speed, but an aftermarket exhaust helps a bit on that side. The original exhaust started ringing when pushed hard, it wasn't too silent but missed on the lower frequencies making the sound so unpleasant that you felt like you were mistreating the engine when passing 6K rpm. Now with the ecu remap and full roadsitalia exhaust you really don't want to go below 6K rpm. Anyway I've rode it for just 2700km. I'm definitely a noob yet.
Last year there were two bikes on my list after a longer period of survey among possible A2 bikes. Honda CB650R and Triumph Trident 660. My choice was Trident in the end because of better design. Honda is amazing, but Triumph is a more suitable to me. I love this bike and every moment on the seat, so I am looking forward to go for a ride again as soon as Spring comes.
If you’re talking budget naked bikes you should really include cfmoto in the discussion. They have some really good offerings that are an amazing value for the price. The clx 700 heritage/sport is quite the offering along with the 800nk. I own the clx700 sport and it is a ton of fun!
For those who want even better value for money I'd say that a used apprilia tuono v4 factory or even a BMW s1000r should cost roughly the same as all these but be an awful lot faster...
I hate how they advertise the phone connectivity on the bikes like the z650. Yeah you can connect your phone to the bike but it does nothing imporant nor data you need to get on your phone. I wish people would stop talking about it like it's a selling feature to get a log of your ride directly from the bike.
Make a video on all bikes that are in that 700-900 cc range that make 140-170 HP because I cannot think of anything except the 840 EVO, GSXR 750, AND MV F3. What else am I missing
I would advise against the MT-07. Compared to my CB650R the thing feels outright cheap, low quality. Apart from the engine that is but that's just not enough for me. MT-07 is a disappointment to me after so many people praised the thing. Edit: My 650 is from 2022. The 2024 version does not look good imo.
Wish reviewers would test 1/4 mile and top speed times. Some of these are castrated at 119mph. Can they all smoke a 1984 GS550ES that turned a 12.19 in Cycle? My FZ6 tests at 11.2 and 146 mph...What you got Euro trash fives?
As i tried most of them… i might go with either gsx8s, tuono 660 or maybe sv650 (since i owna ducati monster xD) Hornet is a pass for me. Rather get suzuki or aprilia rival, more polished finish.
We could have add the ducati scrambler 800 to be fair… nice bike and would go for that one as i own 937 monster. Tho, the scrambler 1200 looks much more premium and polished, and monster is much more aggressive design matching ktm790, gsx8s or mt07 spirit.
I know that Hornet has a great price and performance but guys its so ugly. I own MT07, with Akrapovic has best sound in ccompetition but still i think Honda CB650R is the best looking and best of all of these.
Fokin wanka. Youve left out Bmw f900r as it is quite affordable and same features as the rest of these. Crazy good midrange power and ergonomic design to make it a traveler if need be. Its truly a fun bike like these in the video.
Looks like They are just too narrow minded to come up with that simple marketing idea like - let's not be so orange for a year and more black on black, red black and blue black and see how many more thousands of bikes we'll sell...
As a beginner i went for the vitpilen 401. Just because of the looks, it a very good motorcycle i highly recommend it. It looks way better than a ducati monster and costs more than half. Many people stop me because of the futuristic style. I live in nyc and have not seen that bike on the street thats how unique it is. The vitpilen 401 is not on this list.
I have been a hug fan of the Hond CB650R those pipes and overall styling simply shine when compared to most of it competition abd being its the onlyinline4 makes it really stand out. I reallly want it but you cant have them all. I currently have a 2014 tiger 800xc
I think the CFmoto 800NK should take the 790's place just simply becauess its more affordable, basically the same bike and has cruise control standard and the 790 doesnt
We are up to the point where "phone connectivity" is a motorcycle characteristic! What's next? Automatic selfing and uploading photos to instagram? Weather forecast? PS5 connectivity to play "God Of War" while cruising? Making espresso for the road?
Agree on the pricing strategy i just don’t think the Tuono is in many peoples considerations because of it but I picked up a brand new MY 23 Tuono 660 factory model for £7950 on the road towards the end of October last year after some back & forth 😉 I test rode the hornet, mt, trident & lastly the Tuono, it’s way ahead of those other bikes in all areas imo & it definitely sits in a higher bracket. 100bhp, QS, rider modes, traction, cruise, good brakes/suspension & handling, great to look at & If it stays reliable 🤞🏻 I’ll be very happy i picked one up instead of the other contenders.
Allein schon nur die exorbitant gestiegene Haftpflicht Einstufung für 2024 (Alle über 20, 21, 22 etc.), ohne TK, Laufleistung, Verbrauch, Wartungskosten etc...😊
Great summary! IMO you can't go wrong with any of these bikes, well maybe the Z650 but the rest are all great bikes, I love the KTM790s performance but the looks are a major downer for me, I still think as a do it all middleweight the Trident would be my choice.
The KTM 790 and 890 Dukes just look and feel cheap to me. Performance chops they definitely have, but I need to love the look of my bike. And reliability is nice to have as well.
@@rogerp4612 I couldn't agree more, I rode the 890R in March and loved it but ended up buying the new Street Triple RS coz I love the look of it. (plus it's a great bike).
Idk I watched the used market and bought a Yamaha R1 for 6,000. Came with full exhaust and was tuned with new tires. If you are not afraid of tinkering with bikes and want a much better price I suggest a used bike. Literbike isn't naked or beginner so find a bike that you can handle and learn on.
I don't know what to say. I like the looks of Honda but it kinda feels a low bike. I admit I haven't tested one but in all the videos it seems that the rider is sitting somehow on the bike, not in the middle of the bike. It's like riding a poney not a horse. But the looks is amazing. I like the MT 07, not a big fan of the front light design but from what I see the suspension is ruining it all. It would be great to find a bike that looks amazing, is comfortable, makes the rider feel like he is in the middle of the bike, has mid range torque, good suspension. It feels like whatever you chose, you make a compromise.
