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I remember one job application asking for 6 years experience in a software package that had only been released 2 years prior. Truth is, the people writing these ads know nothing about the jobs. They just copy, paste and churn them out to meet a quota.
Recently I wrote to the Citizens Advice Bureau in the UK to ask them what one of their jobs practically entailed. This was because the job description was so vague that I couldn't figure out what they were asking to do. They waited until 1 day after the job closed for applications then replied with a copy and paste of the job description. No effort was made.
Also, 100% of the data entry jobs in the UK are scams just trying to: 1) Get you to work for free, 2) steal your money, 3) human trafficking, 4), embroil you in a pyramid scheme, and 5) steal your identity. So now I don't even risk applying for these jobs.
My 2 biggest pet peeves are: 1. Uploading my resume and still having to input everything into an online application that will take 3 hours to fill out. This is, of course, after spending hours working on my resume. 2. Entry level jobs requiring 5+ years of experience.
I was contacted by a recruiter and I agreed to an interview. During the interview process, the HR manager brought me an old fashioned job application to fill out. It angered me since I had already filled out their online application. The wanted me go back 20 years and remember every job that I had ever worked.
How about if that same job started the job post with three paragraphs about how they are a fortune 500 company and how great they are...yet include ZERO information about the job location...work hours or Rate of Pay! Then you'd have a security officer job opening. Armed or unarmed.
OMG, I HATE #1 -- I have literally walked out of interviews where they have asked me to email my resume, but when I got there they wanted me to fill out an application
Loving these! I have seen so many job postings requiring a bachelor's degree but they're only paying $12 an hour. If you can't afford to pay more than McDonalds, you can't afford to require a degree.
I work in construction trades. I recently saw a job posting for a high cost-of-living city municipal maintenance position that wanted applicants have be licensed in electrical, plumbing, and carpentry. They were paying $25 an hour. Houses here are $1.5million. Each one of those licenses commands close to $100,000 each minimum, more if the work is specialized. 25-fucking-dollars-an-hour for all three.
Several years ago, I came across a job application that asked me to write a poem...for an IT Project Manager position. Their reasoning (according to the app) was that they wanted to know what makes you stand out. I can't remember exactly how I worded it, but I rescinded the application using Haiku.
I walked out of an interview when a questionnaire was put in front of me with one of the questions asking what my bedtime was. Before I even got to that, the HR lady (forgot her exact meaningless title) was quizzing me on what my Zodiac sign was. Until employers suffer with a shortage of applicants, they can largely get away with wasting applicant's time with foolishness like this.
When have employers ever experienced a shortage of candidates? Yes I know some niche sectors sometimes experience shortages but usually that's quickly resolved
Yep, no one wants to be your first job. They all want to reap for an investment in your growth that other people made. Its truly a shame, makes getting into the market much more difficult, for no actual reason.
That's an old move that's unfortunately making a comeback :( I still remember a lot of postings in the 90's that required you to pay a "processing fee" of $100-300 just to interview with them -- no guarantee of a job, just a seat at the interview table that day. o.O
Might be more common that you think. My first job was with a technology company that manufactured some specialized equipment. They offered their customers training on this equipment for ~$2K/student. Employees could also be asked to take this training if it would be used on the job. There was no cost to employees, with the caveat that should you leave within 6 months of the training, you would owe a pro-rated fraction of the imputed training cost.
This is what gets me- this is the other side of the “no one wants to work anymore” thing. People want to work, they just don’t want to work for minimum wage after getting a degree and two years of experience! They don’t want to have to pay for their own training! And they shouldn’t have to!!! The job market is ridiculous these days!!!
That expression is an incomplete sentence. Every time I hear it I finish it :“No one works wants to work anymore“, more like, no one wants to work for (YOU) anymore.
If what they offer does not entice the employees they need, they will raise the offer or go out of business. There is a feedback mechanism here, and in a tight labor market it should not take too long.
I once took an unpaid day off work for an interview, and drove 70+ miles. Turned out to be an "informal chat to see if we might want to interview you if a position opens". Nobody was happy about the situation by the time I left.
I was pressed to fly half way across the country for an interview for an engineering job they were "desparate" to fill. Travel was at their expense, but I had to burn vacation time. I did the front desk paperwork and sat in the reception area from about 8:00 until noon while it cleared out of applicants for factory jobs. Finally, they told me they were unable to find anyone to interview me and suggested I should go do some site seeing until my return flight leaves. That was in the mid 80's and I remember the company to this day and get mad again every time I think of it. Oh, BTW, a few days later the recruiter called about another job at a different facility of the same company.
I actually have often thought that the reason companies don't like to put the salary range in the ad is that they don't want the people who ALREADY work for them to know what the pay is. They're afraid one of their lower-paid people will look at the ad and realize their own worth.
As an employer, I've had employees angry that we were hiring for a position that started higher than everyone else's position. The fact that the position required schooling and years of experience doesn't matter. I was given the cold shoulder treatment for weeks.
@@AmyMable As an employer, I bet you find some of the attitudes in this comment thread somewhat dismaying. There is little understanding of the other side of the paycheck, and they often cannot distinguish between a greedy owner and the need to stay in business.
@@zephsmith3499I would stay with a company if they were open about why they are being paid higher. I have literally worked for a company that didn't give the veteran employee raises, but was hiring everyone at the same work level a dollar more. This was a big corporation too. I would work for a little less at first for a good company or boss, if I am rewarded later for it. For instance if the company starts doing better than I should get a raise. Etc Most businesses see employees as leaches and we're just out to take their money from them, and God forbid you have to pay someone. Not to mention, stop putting yes men in management positions. They suck and they make everything else suck.
@@Bulmachan224 It makes sense that you would be unhappy with that employer. I hope you can find a better one, or perhaps eventually go into business yourself and treat your own employees as they wish to be treated.
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@@rpick7546 totally happened to a workmate when saw an add and realize they were paying more to cleaning lady
What bothers me the most is having super high requirements for entry level type work with entry level pay. Some of these employers are really out of touch with reality. I work in IT and have seen this a lot lately. Mininum wage in California is 15.50/hr and I've found IT jobs (requires B.S., certifications, years of experience) that pay less than $20/hr. That's bonkers.
Sadly I don’t think they are out of touch. People do apply for and accept those positions, albeit as a stop gap and therefore with a high rate of turnover, nonetheless, they do get people in those roles at those rates. It makes you think uni was a massive waste of time and money.
I saw a job posting last week for a “Glass Clarification Engineer” role. If you’re wondering what that is, it’s literally just being a contracted minimum wage window cleaner for a window cleaning company with minimal actual benefits. I was laughing so hard when I saw the name of the role and what it actually was.
Cleaning windows, cars (valeting as well) are one of the few jobs that people with no qualifications or prospects can do. So, if they see such a job (or learn about it) the poor soul thinks they have made it big - imagine their surprise lol. It takes all sorts to make the world go round lol. Have a good day reader.
I found myself in between jobs and tried to sign up with a temp agency. I made an assessment appointment and showed up about 10 minutes early. The receptionist rolled her eyes at me, went to a door and said, "someone's grandmother is here". Then I was asked to leave. My phone had been on silent, but saw that once back in my car...it was ringing. It was an employee of the temp agency wondering if I'd forgotten my appt. I said that I had just been in there and was asked to leave. She literally said, "you have to show up yourself, you can't send another person". I assured her that I was indeed the person that showed up, and no one else. She hung up on me. Yeah, I was in my fifties....but I didn't present as just some random old woman wandering in. I didn't want to even try to work with people like that.
In my 50s too and been treated rudely once they see my age in person, even though I dressed very nice and professional. There is definitely some ageism going on.
I had a salon offer my a position and wanted me to sign a contract stating I would owe them money if I left before 7 years. Every year I stayed the amount I owed would decrease. Here’s the thing,the amount I would owe was left blank! She said she wouldn’t fill it in or even tell me what I would owe until after I signed it! I just got up and left.
So basically she wanted to put upon you with a maxed out credit card and wouldn't tell you the amount on said maxed out card. Lmao some people are real pieces of s***
I would've said that would make this contract invalid and no court would side with her and I wouldn't sign either but I'd tell her even if I wanted to sign, she'd be giving me a copy and thus leaving it blank will cause a judge to err on my, the employees side. This is how vague illegal contracts work
My nephew had worked for a pool company. Because he gave less than 30 days notice they had all these cockamamie charges and they lowered his wages down to minimum wage for the last month. At the end he owed them about $400. Then a few months later this moron employer sued him for breach of contract saying he took a job at a competitor violating a non-compete. But he was working at Olive garden. Good thing we have a lawyer friend who took care of the whole thing. I do get some solace in that it cost him a few thousand dollars to sue my nephew though.
A non-compete clause... at a pool company. I hope your nephew got his legal costs awarded by the judge, because that is some buuuuuuuuulllshiiiiiiiiiit.
Noncompete clauses like this one are nearly impossible to enforce, especially since he went to a completely different field. Sore losers in life as well as court.
The one at 8:06 takes the gold. Demanding candidates come in to "get the feel" for the job is just corporate speak for "We want two hours of unpaid work from you." Then they reject the guy for the temerity of asking if the two hours are paid. I would have taken that text exchange to the local labor board.
A couple years ago I had an on site interview for a tech position in a non tech company/office. I explained things, showed what they needed, how I could accomplish that for them, and so on. In the middle of the interview the interviewer came over to me, and wanted to tell me what he thought of the interview. At that point he farted in my face and said that's what he thought. I then got an offer, which I turned down for what should be obvious reasons.
18:31: They want to hire the guy who produces $890,000 work of work/services, and pay him $150,000, so that in a year, the CEO can buy another $740,000 yacht.
As someone diligently looking for a job, these are really helpful. Not just informational, but a bit of a comedic release as well. Job seeking can be a lonely endeavor.
I once told an interviewer that their method of interviewing was horrible and would never result in a decent candidate wanting to work for them. The company went out of business about six months later.
Many years ago, as a young medical technologist, I interviewed at a prestigious hospital in Boston. The interviewer kept me waiting over 30 minutes while he was on what was obviously a personal phone call. When we spoke, he asked a lot of questions unrelated to the job for which I was applying, and expressed dismay that I had no experience in those unrelated jobs. When we were done, he told me that the hiring manager had taken a personal day, and to please schedule an appointment with her for the next week. They were dumbfounded when I called later that day to withdraw my application.
I once lived near Boston. A young med tech interviewed for position with one hospital to be asked to return for a second, THIRD, and FOURTH interview 🤯. By the time #4 rolled around he had already found a job. This hospital has very expensive parking charges as well, so I suspect they encouraged public transit use. Lately it seems openings in this field have more unreasonable requirements. Degree & licensure that worked out just fine at one time now require clinical experience as well. ?!?!?!?!?!?! How is he supposed to get experience when no one will give him a job? If anyone starts crying online or anywhere else about a shortage of med tech, nursing or other health care personnel shortages, I may have to take some deep breaths and count backwards to avoid exploding 🤯. There are just some managers and fellow professionals who help create their own shortages.
@@lmusima3275Having interviewed at a small occupational health clinic at one time, AFTER it was no longer legal to ask about any marriage or family plans, the doctor kept asking did I have any plans for marriage or children 🤔
Being in Colorado I love the new pay range disclosure law. I've not seen massive range post like that. But I've had some companies still downright refuse to give the range, which well, if they can't follow labor laws right off the back, I just look else where. I had a recruiter once get all bent up about it which after third time them pushing for interview I just had to down right tell them I can't trust them since they already breaking the law. The range is one thing, but really reflects the culture of the company if they comply or not to the law.
It’s insane to me that they think we’re stupid and wont walk away if they’re being scummy whores. Maybe in the early aughts but none of us care anymore. We watched all of them lay off employees to avoid paying pension. Why would they think we trust them.
I see a lot of job postings by recruiters (usually Indian). They usually don't have pay ranges. Out of state/out of country recruiters don't know the law. Even in-state recruiters don't know or ignore the law. I saw a posting by an Indian recruiter for a remote tech position paying $15/hr. I'm pretty sure he was planning on getting Indian candidates who are willing to work for such a low range. He knew Americans won't work for that. When I DO see a hiring range, I ALLWAYS ask for the top of the range.
I’ve seen so many postings for “Unicorn” positions. 😂 What that tells me is that either the person who left was underpaid, doing so many things. Or, they’re trying to see if a sucker comes along and accepts such position.
@@jeffmartin5419 Many Federal Government jobs, and some Federal Contractor jobs are like this. They have someone specific in mind but are required to "post" the position, and have actual applicants first. Then they go hire whom they wanted in the first place.
HCA does this. They have a policy of posting all positions available, even though they already have someone in mind. What a waste of time. The hospital I worked for got bought out by them. We were told "You're not losing your job. You just have to reapply and interview for whatever position you want". Applied for multiple work from home positions I was qualified for, never heard back. That was time I could've spent looking elsewhere!
@@jeffmartin5419 That one applies to government positions in many states. They have to have 3 candidates to interview before they can legally hire the person they really want to hire. So they toss out a job posting and see if anyone nibbles. That said, they usually make the requirements modest if they are trying to get bodies in for an interview, since many people won't even apply if they don't meet the unicorn requirements.
Some of those job listings w/crazy requirements are set up for somebody's kid or friend. They just put them out there so they can say they're hiring, but they already know who they're going to hire.
Oh yes. Been through that. It was an internal job posting (requirement). During the interview I ticked all the boxes and suddenly got' But it's only a 60% job' I replied ' Not a problem!' I knew that it could not possibly be 60% as I has 14 years of experience with that kind of job, and it was a major part of all the work being done at the factory. After the interview I didn't hear a thing for a while. I found it weird as the position need to be filled to to meet the requirements from our customers and state regulations. Suddenly the ad was withdrawn and when I asked why I got 'Oh. seems like we don't need the position to be filled'. Really? We were not in compliance with demands put on us. I asked one of the engineers what had happened. He went very strange and didn't even want to look me in the eyes. 30 days later his girlfriend had the position. Nice girl but absolutely not qualified for it. It's not about what you know. It's about who you know.
My biggest outrage lately happened with a state job. It was kind of the opposite situation. My resume was a perfect fit for the job description and I had 20 years of experience in the skills they were seeking. If anything I had much more than they were asking for. The recruiter sent me a rejection letter saying that I did not have the qualifications to get an interview. It was baffling. Not even the courtesy of a conversation. I felt like I had been swiped on Tinder for not being 6 feet tall. So insulting...
Here's a reality check, recruiters are mostly incompetent people. The only job that they are qualified for is being a janitor. I actually looked through the resume that were accepted once because those were potentially gonna be under my supervision. When I looked at the contents of the resume, they seemed odd, so I asked them to show me the ones that were rejected. Obviously the recruiters looked at me like I've gone mad but regardless they show the rejected ones anyway. As I was going through each of those resume, I was dumbfounded. A lot of the rejected ones looked much more appealing because I know what a resume really look like when someone has years of experience behind them in my field. I got really furious and gave the recruiters an earful. The boss of the company obviously heard my commotion and called me in, after explaining to him, he smiled and told me that they are gonna start the recruitment process again from scratch with the existing resumes only this time, I will be keeping my eye on the recruiters as they are doing their job.
I had a similar thing happen - asked around - the owners son was already in the job but to get a government contract they had to produce evidence that their recruitment was "competitive based"....
These companies are terrible with requesting you to do real work during the interview process. I knew one girl who actually completed a case study and they did not hire her, But she was hired a few months later and found that they used her idea she completed in the interview process. Just shady!
This has happened to me. Working interviews are common in my industry, but I will never again give away my time, talent, and treasure before being on the company’s payroll
I wouldn't want to work for someone who criticizes you for showing up at the exact time, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how some people have the nerves to ask graduates to work under minimum wage. This clip is great.
Especially since they know the person lives nearby. If I'm interviewing a few miles from home, I know exactly how long it will take to get there, so there is no need for a safety margin.
@@northrose4344 - I worked at a place that was the opposite. We couldn't punch in more than 10 minutes before the shift. Anyone getting there too early had to wait before punching the time clock.
American living and working in Germany. You might be surprised how often prospective employers ask people to try working for free, they call it a 'hospitation.' I believe in theory it's meant to give a person a peek into the work environment and meet staff but I think many places want you to actually start working on the spot. I went to one last week and the person told me I had been too 'passive' in my work during the three hours I was there. Also, for another position I arrived twenty minutes early to an interview, ready to wait until the stated time and they chastized me for being too punctual and told me to go outside and go for a walk. HAHA :)
"Chastised me for being too punctual" Tell me you were applying for a role with Deutsche Bahn without telling me you were applying for a role with Deutsche Bahn. If someone told me to go for a walk I would obey. At a brisk pace and never once looking back.
My last boss tried to bully me into accepting a job change while not agreeing to one point that I wouldn’t budge on. He tried the “I interviewed a great candidate”; played me off against others. I told him each time I was happy that he found someone and that I’d be happy to help them and fully support them. Finally he did give me everything I wanted and quoted a salary much higher than I expected. I know my worth. And I made him look very good while I was in that role. Like flowers and chocolate good. Don’t settle for less than you are worth, assuming you truly are knowledgeable in that field.
The third one reminds me of one of my old managers. I arrived to work on day at 2 minutes til scheduled shift. He got on me for almost being late. I looked at the clock, which still wasn't at the scheduled time yet and responded with "Is 'almost late' what we call 'on time' now?"
Glad that person asked whether they would get paid. Once the employer figured out they were not a door mat and then insulted the applicant. This used to sometimes happen to my sister who is a graphic designer. The marketing manager job posting was illegal.
I saw a job opening advertised on Indeed located in New Jersey, in which the company wanted someone to write NEPA documents for customers, as volunteers! They advertised it as doing something vital and important. Well, it is, and it also needs someone who has at least 4 years experience to do a good job, and it requires a degree in a science field like ecology or geology. I hope no one applied.
We need more of these! The first one for the Accountant is probably looking for people in Latin America (posted by "Hire Latam LLC") where $1400 a month is probably a decent wage. I used to hire tech support analysts in Costa Rica and the wage was $1400-$1700 based on experience (+ benefits) and it was a middle class wage.
I had an interview with Colonial Penn Life Insurance earlier this year. It was for their sales department. The interviewer stated that I wouldn't make anything for the first 45 days and I'd have to pay for the licensing exams. They offered to let me come in the next day to see what the job is like. I said yes but didn't show up because I will not pay for the privilege of working there.
Primerica Insurance was similar, you pay *them* for "processing" your application and your license. When an employer asks you, the applicant/employee, to pay THEM especially on these commission based sales/MLM jobs, RUN. I consider the amount they kept as a "stupid fee" on myself for even giving them money in the first place. I sat with the higher manager of that location for an hour explaining why I was quitting within a day of being hired, it was an awful experience. Stay away from MLMs.
Big red flag I have found and most jobs include this poison pill: "Other tasks as assigned." Which means they can ask you to do literally anything, completely unrelated to the job position. And if you balk or refuse, goodbye any promotions, raises and quite possibly the job itself. Which I have known in a few places to be used to prevent giving earned raises to long term employees. Got a accountant who is due a nice raise? Assign them to work the loading dock for two weeks, or clean toilets, or serve cocktails on a Saturday night at the manager's cook out....
My favorite was when a job post required 5+ years experience in a programming language that had only existed for 2 years. Even the creator of the language didn't qualify! I also saw a computer job that required experience in 14 VERY specific languages and applications which no one could ever actually have simultaneously. The job also paid about 1/3rd of what any amount of that experience would earn elsewhere. I checked that posting board periodically and 2 years later it was still listed. I suspect that they had someone in that position and didn't really want to replace them, so they posted impossible requirements.
When they want 10 years experience with a software that's only been around for a year. My favorite is when they want 5 years experience and a Masters for...an internship. Double points if the job posting brags about we "don't hold hands".
Haven't seen anything that ridiculous for an internship, but I have seen entry level jobs require 8-10 years and a master's. Absolutely outlandish requirements at times
@@mattr2626 I'm military and we have a program called Skillbridge where the DOD essentially "loans" you out to a company for up to the final six months of your contract so you can valuable hard skills when you return to the civilian world; they are essentially internships and while the company doesn't pay you, ylu still receive pay from the DOD. A lot of the times companies take the service member in once they separate from the military. A few of these companies still say they want work experience. An interviewer even flat out said they "don't hold hands here." This especially pisses me off because not only does that completely defeat the purpose of the program, it puts those in combat roles at a severe disadvantage compared to those in tech roles like me.
I have come across several similar job postings. A few years ago a company wanted a candidate with at least 8 years of advanced Flutter experience and at that time Flutter had only been created four years earlier. Many job postings wanting 8-10 years experience and a Masters Degree and several certifications and then offering $30K-$32K a year. Disgraceful.
The first part--I can see the interview in my head. "I've worked with that software for 7 months. I'm really excited about it since it's new." "We really need someone with 10 years experience." "Oh, well, maybe there is a mixup with the name of the program? I read in the ad that it was X which was launched last year. It would've been great to have 10 years with it, but I've had less than a year." "The last person who was here was using it before she worked here 5 years ago." "Uh, I don't think she could have had that many years with it. It came out mid-2022." "Well, uh...[looks annoyed]" "It's..well, the math doesn't work out..." *leaves interview while thinking about Verizon math
I applied at Walmart via the Internet. I spent an hour doing the application and answering 70 questions as part of the process. I got a rejection e-mail in 10 minutes! At 11 PM, meaning that no one actually looked at my application nor my answers to the stupid questions. Their computer system did the automatic rejection, probably because I gave honest answers. (I've heard about that happening!)
I applied to a Dollar General once upon a loooong time ago. They had a 200 question questionnaire that was mandatory for the application. It was insane.
Walmart was literally my worst interview ever lol. The interviewer showed up *50* minutes late, then shows me around the area where I'd be working (usually the tour comes _after_ the interview in my experience), then asks me *1* question for the interview. I'm guessing he didn't like my answer or something because he said "that's all the questions I have for you today"? That was such a horrible experience that I had no choice but to write a bad review on glassdoor. 🤣
I’m a graphic designer and I’ve been asked to put together ads for 2 or 3 companies last year, during the interview process, and was never hired. These projects were good designs and took at least 3 to 4 hours each. The last company that did this, I asked them to compensate me and never did I hear back from them. Boggles my mind.
One thing that baffles me is when you look up an entry level position requiring you to have a Bachelor's degree. You think you meet the requirements until you read that the company requires you to have at least 2 years of experience! I think that makes a good topic to discuss for another video
The baffling and non-sensical education/experience requirements are due to decades of litigation regarding "discriminatory" upon the part of employers. Basically, once upon a time employers would often make hires and promotions based on proven/tested ability but eventually they started getting sued for "discrimination". So employers can now hide behind extensive education/experience requirements to "prove" why they did or didnt hire someone.
I interviewed for a low paying law internship once. At the time, I had an engineering degree, 6 years of engineering work experience, and one year of law school under my belt. The interviewer asked if I had an MBA. I could not believe the requirements for a crappy low paid internship.
Now I've read everything... an MBA for a law internship? BTW, why were you applying for that, having experience as an engineer? Did you want to switch careers?
Employers are being absolutely ridiculous these days. On my 20th year anniversary with the company I was laid off. I hear that they hired 3 people to replace me. They were foreigners on work permits. I'm sure they are paying much more. Employers only look at individual salaries without a clue of how much they are actually spending to get the job done 😅
@@vaderladyl more like less work and more time not to mention all the mistakes they make having no experience 🙃. They can have them. I'm retired enjoying it. I've never been happier. They did me a favor 🙏
I had an "interview" with a "marketing" company that was essentially me riding along all day with one of their door to door salesman. The icing on the cake was my car was towed from their parking lot!
Thank-you for exposing this type of practice by employers nowadays 🤦♀️ it is absolutely ridiculous how these employers are treating people that are in search/need of a job. Horrible!!!
I interviewed for a job like the one with all the fees deducted out of your check if you quit right away. They wanted me to pay out of pocket for a drug test and get reimbursed if I’m still there in six weeks. They were basically telling me the company sucks and they have a lot of people quitting right away
The last time I applied for a job, I had left the work force for a while (at the top of my game,) but had continued my education, sat on the board of directors for an engineering firm who had accounts at major defense companies, and worked for well known charitable organizations. The company offered me literally $10/hr. That was way less than the last job I’d had 20 years prior. When I objected, they made a big deal of raising it to $12/hour and I could come work for an afternoon to see if I was good enough. That was a hard no. 😮 instead I bought a farm and am now a farmer. Love it!
This is good info for people just getting out of school, just to know that there are some terrible offers out there that they shouldn't even consider. As far as job listings, I offer these: 1) tech job where the description is a string of HR weasel words and nothing about what you'd actually be doing 2) excessive educational requirements, like wanting a PhD for a line-support position 3) any job with lots of responsibility but no authority, like coordinating the activities of various groups to install production tooling on a schedule, but nobody actually reports to you. I have too many stories about interviews. I'd advise applicants to prepare and be polite, but just know that there are some dreadful people conducting interviews, so don't beat yourself up if it doesn't go well. Sometimes you're better off.
24:21 The request for a photo of the inside of your fridge is most likely either an anti-bot mechanism or a way to indirectly get the sort of information that companies shouldn’t ask about (e.g., race/ethnicity, whether the applicant has children, etc.).
@@billd66 Probably damned if you damned if you don't. No alcohol? Tee total weirdo. Too much alcohol? (Probably not even a lot just more than a 6 pack) Drunkard. Oat milk? Woke communist Nazi. Empty fridge? Desperate loser poor person who must be lazy and bad at all jobs because only the lazy are poor.
What bothers me in a job posting is both low salary, and skills commensurate with, "wanted, God." It often is a list of skills the previous person had, and the hiring person simply listed them down. For some reason they do not connect the fact that the employee who left was severely underpaid.
6:25 omg, that reminded me of one of the very first jobs I applied to after college in the early 90's... it was a mom & pop printshop a few blocks away from where I lived that was hiring an entry level Graphic Designer. I showed up early, went through the interview, had a solid portfolio from my freelance work, and they were really impressed with me. Then the husband was looking over my resume as they showed me around the shop and saw my address -- I remember him sounding a bit annoyed when he asked "You live just down the street from here?" When I acknowledged that I did, he shook his head and told me they had a lot of problems with someone a FEW YEARS earlier who lived nearby but was always late -- so they were only looking for non-local talent. It was kind of an ooooooooooooo-kaaaaaayyyyy moment, but to make sure it never happened again I just got a Post Office box and started using that instead of my street address :P
That thing for a local convenience shop would makes sense to avoid thiefs and favoristisme, but for a print shop just because someone else was late is a non-sense.
@@christophercrawford777 It's illegal for an employer to ask you to bring in your own personal software and artwork and install it on all the computers in the office too, but I've had one do that. It's illegal for an employer to harass and physically threaten you, but I've had one do that. It's illegal for an employer to shortchange your paycheck because they didn't feel like spending any money that week, but I've had one do that too. I don't think a lot of them really care about what's illegal. :(
“Test days” are actually quite common in my line of work (baker) I actually have all my interviews like this, have not needed a CV for 6 years and had multiple jobs. It is ALWAYS payed though, no matter if they take you or not, that should not even be a question.
There’s a toy company in my state that pulls the “come in & ‘test’ work for us to see if you’re a good fit” shenanigans. I rebuffed the offer, but a few friends did it with the predictable results (they did actual work and never got a offer). Just ridiculous! Great video, btw!
I had a really good interview with a very small IT company, and the guy interviewing me was one of the owners and we genuinely seemed to be getting along pretty well. At some point, he said they like candidates to work for half a day so both sides could see if it was a good fit. He told me I would be fully compensated for my work. Although I know many people take sick days or days off to interview, the guy knew I was fully employed. And even though I didn't like my current company and didn't owe them much, this struck me a little sketchy to ask this- almost like it was a trap (and I don't believe it was, but still). My first thought was- how much are either of us really going to know about each other working for 4 hours together? My second thought was- would you want to hire someone who would call in sick to go work with another company for a day? And would I want to work for a company that would ask me to do that? I told him very politely, that I was a bit uncomfortable with it from an ethics stand point, but made sure not to sound holier than thou about it. Things kind of dried up contact wise after that, they probably found someone else who wasn't working or was ok with it and hired them instead. No hate, but it was just weird.
I really do not understand employers paranoia on recruiting people. Virtually every single employment law favours the employer. If you make a mistake with your recruitment you can let the person go gracefully and humanely
@@skyblazeeterno I was recently asked to do the same thing, and I agree it doesn't look good when you are taking off a day to work somewhere else to supposedly get the job. A friend of mine has a successful software company and he said the reason they are doing this is so that you can't say you were discriminated against for the job - they even paid you to work for the day and is a smokescreen - they are not really hiring, but want your input and ideas so beware!
Knowing your value when applying for a job is sooo important. The whole process can feel so intimidating that people forget that employers need employees, too. Great video.
Some employers in my area are well known for paying below market. Recruiters keep contacting me about a position at a large manufacturing company and I always tell the recruiters that company is having a hard time filling positions because they are paying below market rate.
Yeah, that first one hit close to home. Bachelor's degree in the field, worked about two years as accountant. First job, less than minimum hourly wage, cut hours, so he could do that legally... And took subsidy from the government, cause I've had hard time getting into the field. Thank god, I didn't have student loans.
I would say, regarding the restaurant with the massive fees if you quit, that it's more likely it's always been a bad place to work than it's had a plethora of crappy employees. If you're a good place to work, you won't have a high turn-over. Also, I'm sure you know why there's secrecy in pay ranges: they want to pay their candidates the bare minimum, while working them as hard as possible for it.
I worked and quit one of those companies, I quit after six months and the owner violating harassment laws. Several months later there was max exodus of employees. Owner and his wife complain," nobody wants to work". Next time I hear them complain again, they have a boat moored near mine, I will tell them, "people want to work, they just don't want to work for You!" "And frankly can't afford to work for you".
Must applaud you for shedding light on the absurdities that people may encounter and the red flags to avoid. The first one seemed like a grift to ensnare young or vulnerable people with the deliberate intent of chasing them off within a month to then charge them😢
Just yesterday a sales company responded to my inquiry with a link to a zoom call explaining their vending machine sales opportunity. They say it's super super easy. All you do is read their script and people just buy buy buy, pie in the sky, $500+ per day commissions - oh and by the way, you have to pay $30 cash up front every week for your "leads." Scam!!
I want to thank you 🙏🏻 was having some regrets about walking away from some very shady hiring practices by a national franchise. No more. Refuse to shop there as well. So disappointed.
Getting a degree and still not able to be paid more than someone without one. I chose not to finish college because I ran out of money and refused to take on loans. I just chose to work and worked my way up to a level paying as good as if not more then if I had that IT degree.
I understand your frustration. Believe me. The stigma of NOT having a degree is the problem. I'm a welder and make 42.00 an hour and trained at a technical school for 18 months, no debt. Consider the skilled trades.
Yeah skilled trades has tons of opportunity. I have a bachelors degree in HVAC engineering and after 5 years designing HVAC systems I quit to go be a service tech for HVAC instead. We get about 80k a year at my company now. I was making 50-60k in engineering. I now also never have meetings, and I don’t have to put in 70 hour weeks anymore.
I don't regret my bachelor's degree, but the ROI on it was not great. The only good thing it did was teach me how to write fairly well. My master's degree was worth it, but frankly I could have taught myself a lot of the stuff I learned from both degrees.
On the handbook from hell, the department of labor would love to have a word. The only thing that might be allowed is the uniform cost, only if the uniform could be used for other activities (if it's company branded, very unique or wouldn't be worn by a reasonable person, not going to happen). Training is another fun one - if it's job specific or employer mandated, they can't require payment.
Illinois just passed something about having to disclose wages in a job posting. I think it'll be great because I personally won't even waste my time applying to anything that I don't have an idea of how much I'll be paid, because it's usually some crappy poverty wage.
I've been through every one of these. One interviewer complained that I knew nothing about the company, when there was zero info online. She followed me out as I was leaving, chewing me out from behind. One interviewer questioned me about my dating habits. One asked me to do two weeks of unpaid training, and I said no. A school principal let some kids sit on the interview, and then allowed THEM to interview me, which I refused. 10:25, with the project interview, I've had many times, and I always say no.
I was an intern at a major publisher. My performance in the internship was praised. I was invited to apply for a full time editorial assistant position. Years went by and I had to work for high paying administrative positions. Once I could afford a lower salary, I started applying to the same publisher for an entry level position and was told I did not have the right qualifications. I had the exact qualifications, I had done every single task posted on their career page. And I had exceeded expectations. I suspected my age (over 40) was the issue but they - of course - didn’t say so. Because they never told me why my qualifications were not the right fit when they seemed to be exactly resonant, I kept applying for other similar entry level editorial jobs and have received dozens of robot rejections.
I’m an automotive technician. I looked at a college to be a fleet mechanic. The listing said bachelors preferred but 5-10 years experience in the field is acceptable. They were offering about 70% what a dealer would pay me….and anyone in the automotive field knows how underpaid we are by them.
@@falsemcnuggethope Maybe its a hint that regularly cleaning the inside of your fridge is a good spam filtering measure. It gets that year old can of open spam in the back of your fridge out of there!
I once went for an interview with a small law firm as a secretary and the interviewing lawyer said that everyone shortlisted would be required to work for a day. I asked if I was going to be paid and they went very quiet.....They then mentioned a very low salary and I said no thanks. I also went for an interview with another firm, a large London firm, who informed me at the interview that I was expected to be available at short notice seven days a week. I said no to that one as well.
Farmers are often the most out of touch employers, especially if it’s inherited property. They’re usually quite unaware of the financial realities that affect others. They’ll place a lot of weight on the ‘quality working environment’ without providing anything like realistic remuneration. I had a small holder try to pay me with sheep for a building job. Told him I couldn’t easily put them in my bank account.
Once I applied for a job and everything was going smooth, but before I signed the contract I asked to take ir home to introduce myself with what I was about to sign. I found one point about responsibility that could be interpreted as if I happen to make something wrong or someone from team does we individually pay amount equal to losses. There were no specifications about situations when I'm not in work or when we get wrong specifications from employer. Recruiter brushed it off as default contract point, but after some research I found postings about such situations in German branch where employeese got sued exactly like that. I feel good about saying "no" there.
Good grief, this reminds me of the many "entry level" job postings I've been trying to apply for. Been getting declined on grounds of "not enough experience". Those postings can be flagged for false advertising.
😂 I work for a company where the concept of salary ranges is a challenge. It’s always been case-by-case. When we first hit the wage transparency laws, I looked at how our competitors were handling posting jobs. One had posted that the position would pay between $20k and $200k. This was a large reputable company.
They should really penalize large ranges like that. Like maybe 1% of the difference between what the upper end is and what the employee actually ends up making is deducted as a one time tax they cannot make the employee reimburse.
So if they actually pay $30k, they should need to shell out $1700 to the government for the privilege of such an extreme underrating. This $1700 will be earmarked for labor law compliance enforcement.
A job I had ,charged me 200.00 out of my first check for a back ground check. After 6month you would be reimbursed. I got as far as 4 months and couldn't take it anymore. Another job I had, I noticed after a few pay checks, under misalaniance they were taking out 50 cents a week. I asked what the deduction was for. They told me it was for my birthday cake, when that time came along. Lol
That accounting job, man. When McDonald's is offering starting positions at nearly double the pay of a two year college, two year experience required job, well you know something ain't right then.
@@ALifeAfterLayoffhey, just wondering if you can do a video on temp/staffing agencies. Please explains the main reason why companies use temp/staffing agencies? Explain the shadiness of temp / staffing agencies?
The one about arriving on time is an equity issue. The company has no idea how the person got there or what else they had going on (like childcare, etc). Not hiring because they showed up on time feels really scummy.
I'm currently in the job search, and have found quite a few doozies with regards to job postings that have major experience/compensation discrepancies. The most glaring of these was a posting for a Medical Business Office Assistant that required 10 years of experience yet paid $17/hour.
@@debbest8546 Indeed. I give you respect for doing that, as while I have experience working on computers, I'm pretty sure my getting anywhere near a deep fryer would end up with me in the emergency room.
@@debbest8546 And more power to you for doing so, as while some people tend to knock on those who work in fast food/supermarket/retail positions, my first thought is, "Ummm, not sure I could handle doing something like that...."
It certainly raised a chuckle when you covered the picture of a fridge requirement. One can tell a lot about another person by looking in their fridge. Sadly, that only works if the owner thereof is unaware of the "inspection." Any motivated person that did apply for the position, would have more than likely cleaned their fridge before snapping a pic; thus, providing a false insight into their character. The poster of this employment opportunity did not think this through to the end. :)
I'm not surprised at all by the accounting job paying $8.75 an hr. I saw a video of 15 states still only paying the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hr. Disgusting! We need better labor laws and way better wage requirements. No wonder homelessness, food insecurity, thefts, and rampant poverty, are consuming so many. Before people start with the usual "get a degree" crap, this job requires a Bachelors degree for the honor of making $8.75 an hr.
Agreed. The same.people.who do not want a minimum wage are the same.ones that are against social programs. If you pay people a living wage, they do not go to the government for benefits
Hoosier here, sadly we are one of the $7.25 minimum wage states. My 18 year anniversary with my employer is next month. I make under $16 an hour. At 1 point I held a coveted board certification in my field. It costs $500 to sit for the exam. I stupidly paid for that thinking I would benefit from it. I gained frustration and bitterness.
@@t.h.8475, I am a Texan who married a Hoosier 29 years ago. She is the love of my life now more than ever, and so I am biased in your favor because of her. I want you to make more than 16 so your present and future is more financially secure. One of her nephews is there in a rural town (although big enough to have a Walmart and McDonalds) and makes more than that recently out of high school as an apprentice welder. So I wonder if there is another trade that you can switch to that might pay better. Maybe easier said than done, especially if you have chosen a noble albeit lower paying career such as teaching or nursing. But please consider any options available to you because I think you deserve 61 instead of 16 just because of my wife. ;)
I worked in dental offices for 8 years and there was always a “working interview” which would be after your first interview where you sit with the team and observe to make sure you like how they work. It was completely normal however several employers abused this. I forced a doctor to pay me for two days of a “working interview” where is actually did work where the rest of the team and office manager ignored me.
"Take a picture of your fridge" is trying to get you to out yourself about protected information they're not allowed to ask in job interviews. They can't ask your age or if you're married or if you have kids. But if they see your fridge, they can figure it out.
I got a laugh out of the cost listing for people that leave the company. One must admire the creativity of the company for finding a way of profiting from having high turnovers in employees or perhaps discouraging people from leaving the toxic company due to the exiting costs. I agree. I would be tempted to troll the company wanting a picture of the inside of my refrigerator. I would probably send them a picture of the inside of Jeffrey Dahmer's fridge. Another thing that gets me is companies that demand access to one's social media accounts, Facebook etc. Mine is locked down and I only give access to close friends and family. No exceptions. We live in a crazy world today. Companies complain that they can't get people to come and work for them anymore, and yet so many of them are pulling stunts like this.
#2 is common in the restaurant industry. That's a pretty detailed list, they usually just wrap it into one "fee". Keep in mind these are tipped roles and the rules are different. They're treated like a sub contractor in many ways. Not defending it, I think it's ridiculous. But it's pretty common.
A CPA looking for an internship is hilarious. You can't get a CPA license without several years of fulltime audit experience, usually earned at a Big4 accounting firm.
@@vintageswiss9096 that’s the problem. Getting the initial work experience is very hard to do especially if you have no connections. Also, the Big4 is attractive to people because having that on your resume gives you a huge advantage in your next job if you leave a big4.
@nickd2296 you're ignoring the actual situation: the OP said that an intern position required a CPA. A CPA already had 1-2 years work experience, meaning you'd never land a CPA intern...
I lately got the test run at one interview. The client basically asked me approach for building an entire app took all the points and changed the job requirements for it and made me ineligible. I felt absolutely ridiculous considering I had to go onsite for this interview
@@romany8125 I wish I could. I was sent through a third party recruiter who were terrible. Never ever going onsite for such things. Companies nowadays try to take advantage of candidates and are using such interviews as means to gather information
I love the job listing for a person that had experience with a particular type of IT framework but they wanted 5 years experience in it. The creator of the framework screenshotted the job requirement and then posted it on Instagram saying "WOW I guess I don't even qualify since I only published the entire framework 3 years ago. Bummer." haha HR managers often don't have the first clue what they're asking for. And fun exercise is when you're working for a big company who's hiring a lot, look for job listings for the job you currently have. See if you even meet all the requirements. The times I've done this in the past, I haven't met them. I'm sitting there, getting paid to do that exact job, getting good reviews from my manager, but I don't even meet all of the requirements for it. haha
I'd be tempted to find a picture of a fridge filled with various human body parts, some in tupperware containers labeled with various days of the week. If they're going to ask for something ridiculous, they're going to get super ridiculous.
I've got a doozy story to tell, but this actually isn't from a job listing. This was during the interview and hiring process, kind of like the "Test Run, Please?" segment. This is at University of Michigan's medical center, in 2013. I'm a bioscience PhD who was interviewed by an M.D. for doing basic lab stuff at the bench. First red flag. He already had a PhD on staff directing the research. Second red flag. But it gets better. I find out that what he's really looking for is someone to catch him up with testing kits. He doesn't say, but there's a strong whiff that this is a temporary job and the catchup point is when he fires me. Red Flag #3. The job, it turns out, pays about $10 an hour - a huge pay cut for me. Red Flag #4. Keep in mind, I'd have had to move across the state of MI to accept and take this job. I'm offered the job, after which M.D. goes out of town and the head lab tech comes on instead to receive my acceptance letter. At UM, all salaries are public. I ask them for a salary of about $44K - the accepted average for my last position, and far less than the in-house PhD is making. What I get back is the most toxic letter I have ever received from an employer, accusing me of betraying the "family" of the lab and making utterly unreasonable demands, peppered with four letter words. Nothing passive-aggressive or professional about it. Shortly thereafter, the M.D. emails me and says the job offer is withdrawn because I'm not a team player. Where had I been previously? A U of Michigan Medical Center lab. I absolutely dodged a bullet there.
Wow! They wanted to pay $10 AN HOUR to someone with a PhD? In 2011, I took a temporary "hold me over" job sweeping floors for just under that. Hopefully the Univ. of Michigan has cracked down on that since then.
@@Seattle-2017 Nope. These M.D.s are treated like gods including by the NIH. They vacuum up more and more research grants every year. Money always attracts money.
Now I may not know jack for dick about the responsibilities of a bioscience PhD, but I know it takes longer than a masters. How is 44k a year average and not low as hell?
Honestly these videos and this format is sometimes even more helpful than the ‘normal’ videos. Sometimes seeing things in writing is kind of a case study to help you remember. They may look ridiculous but the lessons to take away are pretty darned spot on.
8:59 I worked for a Bakery chain that did what they called "working interviews" where you had to work for a day without pay. It was the most toxic work environment I have ever worked in and I spent a decade in nonprofit.
I was interviewed by Webb Fontaine before and they gave me a homework to create a full mini Business Requirement Document to be done in 3 days! It felt scammy so I did not do it! I felt like they wanted me to do a piece of actual work for their own use and Im not even going to be hired!
The 'trial day' is a scam in the UK with young people desperate for weekend or a first job. I know of one hotel that does this regularly - they advertise and get several 'prospective employees' for the bar and restaurant, pretty much every time they have a big wedding. They even insist that they provide their own uniform. They never employ anyone from those days. I've seen it happen at other restaurants (a whole week and you don't even get your own tips for one of them, that luckily has gone bust since). A car wash business that asked for 'potential Saturday employees' (ie. teens wanting to make a little money out of school) to work the day on a bank holiday - again, nobody employed from it but they covered the work on the busiest day of their year without paying anyone extra. Didn't even offer them a free tea or coffee during the day. Parents, if your child gets offered an unpaid 'job trial' don't push them to go.
I am in the accounting/auditing field and the postings on it are hilarious. I’ll see postings in Chicagoland asking for a CPA paying $55k a year and they wonder why no one has applied. 🤣
