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Pretty good video showing some fundamental things to start out with in a shop. I designed industrial pneumatic conveying and dust control systems in hazardous environments (both for explosive and toxic dusts) for some time so I can't go by a shop dust video without stopping for a look. Don't get too hung up on "suction power". Being able to lift a bowling ball with your shop vac is not an indicator of whether or not it will control dust. Shop vacs, as you stated, are not primarily designed for dust collection. But rather, like most vacuums, they develop a high vacuum so they can lift dense things like welding slag or suck something out of a 3-foot-deep hole. Or power through when someone dunks the hose into a pile of something. The most important parameters are air volume and conveying velocity. Shop dust collection would be classified as a very dilute phase pneumatic conveying system. Even in systems strung out in a 2500 s.f. shop, it's easy to keep system pressure drop to a few inches of water. In my current shop, I have a 650 cfm Delta single stage unit and a no-name 400 cfm unit that is 40 years old. Both are only capable of about 7-8 in W.G. suction but that is more than enough for even a poorly laid out system---like mine. When I moved into my current basement shop, I had to agree to downsize to only about 650 s.f. so my stationary machines are hooked to the Delta with 4" hose laying on the floor in a network with blast gates. The farthest run is about 15' and it produces a pressure drop of about 1". I have Powertec 1-micron bags on top and bottom of both collectors, so I have a back pressure of 1-1.5" of W.G. making the total pressure drop 2-2.5" W.G. (all checked with a manometer). Both units can still move about 80% of their rated volume at that dP. In 4" hose that that's over 5500 ft/min at the pickup. And, since it's a vacuum system, the velocity is increasing as it gets closer to the fan as the pressure decreases. The Delta unit has enough capacity to successfully power a 6" system if it's well designed. Saw dust or even chips off of a planer/jointer only need a pickup velocity of about 2700 fpm to be conveyed. As a rule of thumb, you want a minimum 2.2 cf/lb of conveyed material and no non-commercial woodworking machine can produce dust fast enough to approach that for even the smallest fan driven dust collector. The 40-year-old unit was my only one for 10 years and it never clogged up extracting dust from my 13" planers. The most critical thing is how the dust generating point is collected. I have 5 shop vacs of various sizes that are used for sanders, routers, drill press and the dust port on my miter saw. The rest of the time they're used for clean-up of fugitive dust. Again, good advice.
Decibels are on a logarithmic scale. For example, if something is measured at 10 dB, to get to 20dB would make it 10 times in intensity. 30dB would be 1,000 times the intensity than 10dB and so on. So, moving up and down a few decibels is actually a big change overall.
I looked up the mullet, and it's 500$ in canada. I loled... I made my own cyclon with a 5 gal bucket and 2-3 hoses attachements that i made myself with cookie saw in spare woods that we all get, and voila, it worked perfectly. Yes this is not mobile with the shopvac, but, and that's a big BUT, I used the lincoln street woodworks tips about dust collection : making a moving arm... Thus the only thing which moves in my area is that arm, above my head that I can attach to anything I'm doing. This is honnestly the perfect thing as I don't have a lot of space and as moving the shopvac is kinda painfull. It is so easy to build, and so cool to use, I even put an electrical outlet at the end of the arm so I can power anything (mainly my sander) and do my job anywhere I need in the shop depending on what I'm building. and then the big, big thing : as my shopvac isn't moving, I used vaccumm pipes to build an extract pipe from the shopvac to an outside vent, so any extra fine dust not filtered gets outside. Nothing left in the shop except what was not picked by the shopvac. Let met tell you that everything is really neat. If you have any venting outside that is running close to you, that's what i'd recommand.
"and that's a big BUT" Honestly, it's not that big of a but. Anyone who's reasonably handy could pretty easily replicate what they've done with the mullet by using some PVC pipe and hose adapters. Even easier if you have a 3D printer. They should be ashamed to charge that much for a plastic bucket and some pipe.
My granddaddy filtered all of his shop dust through a cigarette and the machines kept him alive until he was 90! /s In all honesty keeping your lungs clean is something I never considered growing up but I care deeply about now, same with not letting chemicals get onto your skin. I do a lot of gardening and I use synthetic fertilizers in certain applications, I do NOT want that stuff touching my skin for any amount of time. 3D printing has a big need for PPE as well, resins are bad for your skin, and obviously you don't want to breathe plastic dust from sanding FDM.
250 bucks for the mullet is insane even though it is a neat design. Might as well just buy the home depot bucket top dust stopper and build a cart at that point.
I agree, I looked at this the first time it was shown here. I’m sure it does a great job but I feel like there are ways to do this without spending so much. I took two, five gallon bucks and attached them top to top and put in some PVC to drop heavy and suck up light, I added a wooden deck for it to sit on and it follows around my shop vac. It works great. It cost me about $25.
You are not wrong, those static shocks are no joke. If you add extra hose, adding a ground wire is a must or those shocks hit hard enough to actually leave a mark. Ask me how I know... An idea to pass along - I built a cart to keep that shop vac (which is great), Oneida 5 gallon dust deputy, 20' of hose, plus the tools, extension tubes, bags, filters, a 20' 1.5" hose with it's adapters and tools (great for car wash day, sanders, etc.) all together. It's not pretty as it was built quick out of shop scraps as a proof of concept, but it works really well for me. Everything moves as one unit, you have plenty of cord and hose, and 4 wheel swivel casters (with brake. Always with brake, trust me) to put and keep it out of your way while you're working, and roll it back when you're done.
When I worked at Drexel Heritage, sometimes I would have to work in the ruff end department on a rip saw. The shock was so bad and loud that you could hear it over all of the machines. You could see it a couple inches above the table. The winter time was the worst with the dry cold air.
I use rigid shop vac 16 gallon with green HEPA filter, generic dust bags, Oneida low profile dust deputy ( costs about 1/2 that of mullet ), can fill the 5 gallon Oneida collector and wish I had 10 gallon when using planner and jointer on local saw mill rough wood. Easy to disconnect the 5 gallon bucket, walk out to large rolling garbage can and dump) . I had a huge shop with central Oneida cyclone and loved it . Currently in 2 car garage .
I love all of these tips and tricks, I started refinishing furniture with my mother when I was a young girl and I still love doing it today I'm just now getting into woodworking, I built a gorgeous little playhouse for my grandson in the back yard out of pallet wood, and I'm so impressed that I did that by myself. To be honest, I learned a lot of the things that I built from RU-vid. What my husband calls, RU-vid University, and I love it. Even he was impressed with the playhouse.
I assume because it’s made in the USA. Good quality product. I’m not sure what their production costs are but obviously much higher in the US vs overseas due to labor costs, materials, etc.
The new Dewalt Stealthsonic Vacs are super quiet. I use a 25 foot pool hose and homemade fittings so I can reach just about anywhere in my shop without having to move tha vacuum and Dust Deputy around so much.
I'm a "do my cutting at the end of the garage with the big door open" type dust collector myself. Followed by the leaf blower technique lol But after this bathroom remodel, I've decided my next big project is garage makeover. Building new work benches, hanging shelves, shop vac + dust deputy dust collection, etc. I'm tired of climbing over things and searching all over the garage for tools and fasteners I need. It adds probably 15%+ time to every project having to hunt for what I need, or having to move stuff to get to it. Now the trick is not convincing myself I need everything that every professional wood worker needs lol
yeah and when it really sucks is if you only have a little bit of time, and like half of the time ends up being cleaning up the mess you left behind so you have a place to work and can find the tools you need
Dewalt makes a stealth Sonic. These things are extremely quiet compared to a standered shop vac. I have the craftsman you showed. The dewalt is half as loud. I keep I hooked to my shapeoko 5 pro 4x4, and Haven't had any regrets
@user-kv1ns5te2r I will give the craftsman credit, though. It's a great vac. But if sound is a issue. The dewalt is that way to go. You can stand right beside it and carry on a normal conversation with it running.
Yes, I use a leaf blower! Daily pretty much! Also, another option, I use a central vac! You can mount and plumb it like a big 4+ inch but use smaller 2” which takes less room and costs WAY less than 4” pipe. It has a butt ton more suction than a shop vac or an extractor! Down side is the affordable ones are loud, but can easily be mounted behind a wall or something to negate the noise. Add a smaller, less expensive cyclone, with a larger trash can than like that mullet thing and you got longer term use before emptying is needed. They aren’t cheap but way less than equivalent 4” setups, and cheaper even than extractors in general. Near perfect for small shops. I use mine on my CNC even.!
I've seen others comment on this, but really think you need to review the Dewalt Stealthsonic line before making further recommendations, my own experience the Stealthsonic being MUCH quieter. Up until I purchased Stealthsonic the prior two vacuums I owned prior, besides being much louder had that high pitch whine that was exhausting. And, now that the vacuum is quieter it has removed one of the major reasons (perhaps the last major one) for my interest in acquiring a dust extractor. Most shop vacuums today have OEM and third part alternatives allowing highly effective collection bags and HEPA filters to be installed also removing another reason(s) to buy multiple devices. At this point the only advantage(s) I can see to purchasing a dust extractor today are size (though nothing says an individual can't acquire smaller unit(s) to fit under a table surface, for example) and/or variable speed, that I doubt may people use. Basically, my own view is most of the advantages of dust extractors are gone with shop vacs having the advantage of additional air flow also working in situations where larger chip removal is necessary (small diameter hose on a dust extractor would never allow this making the extractor much less versatile) not even to mention the greatly reduced cost of a shop vac. Just my two cents. Thanks for your info, as always.
Been subscribed since you had like 90k subscribers, I absolutely love the helpful content you put out, it's like project Farm material for woodworkers...would love to see you guys join forces some time!
I am an older dude, new to woodworking and I am floored that every question I have you already have a video for. I truly love your channel, I have learned so much from these videos. Thank you and cheers from North Carolina !!
Shop vac this, shop vac that...Darn, my "shop vac" is a combo of 1100W Karcher VC3 vacuum (really quiet vacuum with good enough suction power) - not a 6.5HP monstrosity, a less than $20 cyclone unit (made in China, no brand... bought 8 years ago on Amazon, literally falling apart now, plastic is simply going to pieces under Dubai's sun and a 50L plastic barrel. That is all. Had to use it at work last week. 3m x 20cm x 0.6cm channels in wet and resinous pine. Times 12. With the veritable DW cordless palm router.... :oD The barrel was full on Friday. Opened the vacuum - a couple of table spoons of dust. Not kidding - literally, a couple of tablespoons. No special filter bags, no fuss, no "I love my Festool"... The entire setup cost me less than 150 bucks, including 6 bolts and nuts I had to get to fix the cyclone to the barrel top. At home, I vacuum the workbench, the tools and the yard around the workbench with it. Sand, woodchips, metal shavings... It does not care. Just works. And yes, the HEPA filter is there. Just not sure if anything even reaches it. Sure enough, my new BX14 (it's gorgeous even still in its box) will require better. B/Flux has also arrived to support it. But for people with "normal" tools - a 4" flexy pipe or a reasonably expensive "shop vac" is just plain nonsense. Do look up a bum of very popular DW745/7491/7492 table saw (or a gazillion of its clones or wannabes) - it's less than a 2" square hole. That is all. Surely, DW do provide an adapter from the big round hole they put in there back to "regular" size hose. Since inside the BIG ROUND HOLE ("you guys just run and get some nice shop vac or something - the hole is THAT big!") there's just a smallish, squarish opening... Common sense should come into the picture of "dust collection for regular folks" at some point... Absolutely, my DW735 would also need the B/Flux. It's coming to replace my fairly tired Triton thicknesser. It's on its way from China - DW obviously hate guys who run 220V and it's not available ourside of the US... or China... Okies, rant mode off. Sorry Matt, nothing personal, love your channel, well, mostly ;o), learned a lot, and much appreciate your work :o)
This was a great practical video. Thank you! Interestingly, I discovered the “leaf blower in the garage “ for the final clean out too! Also, using a portable air cleaner was a godsend, especially when I am doing hobby projects with Balsa wood sanding!
The Dewalt Stealthsonic shop vacuum could be a very nice alternative to the standard super loud shop vacuum. Here is a comparison to what is pretty obviously a Rigid shop vac. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rx4Q8QC2yvw.html The Rigid on a sound meter registered 86 dB while the Stealthsonic registered at 70 dB. The sound scale in dB is logarithmic rather than linear. So only a 3 dB increase means a doubling of sound pressure level (measure of actual acoustic energy). However, the "rule of 10" is that it actually take a 10 dB increase before a sound is perceived as being twice as loud (mainly because our own hearing operates on something close to a logarithmic scale). Then compared to the Stealthsonic, the Rigid would be perceived as being about 1 1/2 times louder. So the Dewalt claim that the Stealthsonic is 50% quieter than current shop vacs is likely true, and potentially a little conservative. As an interesting basis for comparison, a conversation (~3 feet) is around 60 dB (except if I am the one doing the talking, in which case it could be 70-75 dB). A TV sound system adjusted to what feels like a good level for most people is about 70 dB. So the Stealthsonic is about where you would adjust your TV to be at a comfortable level.
Matt, you're a great treasure of woodworking advice. You seem like a fine man. Pls don't do the 99%.. thing. It's beneath you. Your advice speaks for itself. The kind of guy that'll fall for bait titles is the same guy who'll cut off his fingers with a dust collector.
Great video Matt. I just had an electrician wire the room I am going to use as my workshop, for a CNC and track saw. I’ve been looking at dust collection and you provided some valuable info.
Hey just a quest on router handling at 1:08 You go from left to right while your fence is at the bottom. (assumed the vid is not mirrored ) To describe it easier: if you'd lead the router away from you, the fence should be at the left of the router, no? Otherwise it's pushed away from the fence. Or do you just push it very firm against the fence to avoid this? I'm confused...!😊
I do this too. The dusthopper is like $30 and the bucket is $5, way cheaper than the Mullet. I also bought a 3rd party HEPA filter for the vac in addition to the bag and that combination works well.
I have that same shop vac, i have the oneida cyclone (w/e that was most popular for years before) and I built a roll thing that the cyclone sits on top, has holders for all the shopvac tools/parts, i put it corner of garage/shop. I then made an arm (boom arm?) out of plywood, cut many holes in to reduce weight and make tie off points, ran the hose from cyclone up along arm, than have the adapter type hose you linked (not same brand but same idea) i have a 12' attached and a 30' when I want to work outside. The arm also has power 3 plugs, the power for shopvac runs up to that, so 2 plugs for tools I'm working with. The arm follows around entire shop/garage and everything get's sucked up. I didn't know about the bag, going to do that. Can I clean my filter or do I have to buy new one? It is kind of bad now from all the fine dust.
Wondering if the shop vac/ mullet works with the 735 planer? My understanding is that the planer has its own blower that is more powerful than the suction on the shop vac. Just got the 735 so I’m looking for the best setup.
Hercules from Harbor Freight has a new 12 gallon hepa dust extractor for $299. Would be great to see a review for that! Has autostart when turning on a tool, suction level control and auto cleaning of the hepa filter, looks like a steal if it works as advertised!
Anybody know how well the dust topper 5 gallon bucket cyclonic filter thing works? I ask because I was given one of those and I’m quite curious about it but I haven’t used it yet.
You really should have looked into the Oneida Dust Deputy instead of the Mullet. I have one and love it, actually on my second! Way easier to empty since the cyclone empties into a 5 gallon bucket. I made a cart that carries the Dust Deputy and shop vac.
Anyone have a clue as to why I never get a static buildup using only a shop vac and a cyclone? In the shop i have now I've never had it in 3.5 years. Could it be tied to the humidity because I live 0.6 mile from the ocean and I can only get the humidity down to 50% using my dehumidifier?
Not sure if anyone has any advice, but I attached my small shop vac to a cyclone collector for my shop. But when I attach this rig to my sander, the suction is so much it implodes my 5 gallon bucket. Any advice?
for dust I use a shop vac and a cone shaped cyclone separater. Got it from china for about 16.00. that is attached to the top of a 5 gal bucket and it all works well. got the adapter set from Rockler and I can hook up to any of my tools. To save steps I have the table saw and dust rig on a remote fob that I carry with me so powering on and off is so simple. I love my dust rig. BTW I am not just satisfied, I am shocked at how well that cyclone separates the dust from the air.
I had the Mullet when it was first released. It was difficult to empty. The lid was poorly fit, and left fine dust everywhere. The static build up was constantly shocking me with the hose attached to it. And it was really a hassle to have it attached to the shop vac and dragging it all around the shop. I finally got rid of it. Worst purchase I had made for my shop.
Love your videos and the range of woodworkers you reach out to (i.e., from beginner to advanced). Could you do one (for those woodworkers working out of their garage) ... on suggested layout for electric receptacle location. I have 2 standard outlets in my garage and am wanting to hire an electrician to add some more ... but what would you suggest a small workshop needs?
The mullet dust collector looks great except the price for a all plastic build ! The cheapest I could find it was $260, were as my Dewalt stainless steel separator is over a $100 cheaper.
I bought the mullet dust collection a few years ago, it didn't seem to pick up quite as much as the dust deputy did but I do like its solid one piece design. Back then it also came with a piece of metallic tape that you fastened to the collection bucket where the intake hose fastened, for static discharge purposes.
I thought my sander was shorting out with that static electrical surge from the vacuum hose, I started getting shocked didn’t realize it at first not until the shocks started to build up more lol 😂 ended up throwing the sander from being shocked so bad 😭😂
one more thing.....since the dust goes into the work bucket and not the shop vac, you dont need a huge shop vac. shop carefully for power and cfm. Mine is a 5 gal and it works like a champ.
I just need the fittings to attach the tools to the hose. Seeing as how I’m ordering it anyway being able to pick and choose what pieces I need would be best. I have both the dewalt and Milwaukee cordless routers along with 2 table saws, miter saw rand a corded routers in a table. Why nobody offers this as an option blows my mind. I use a shop vac and the dust deputy which are in a “closet” behind my wood shop which help keep the noise down.
I've found that shopvacs are too strong for hand sanders. Even the small shopvacs. They pull the tool down on the material too much causing several issues. They will cause the sander to leave swirl marks, stress the sander and more than likely make your sandpaper not last as long. I've even used a variable resister to reduce the suction which it did but not enough. After that did not work, I bought a variable speed dust extractor and do not regret it.
Hooking a shop vac to the DeWalt planer will cause its motor to burn out because the vac’s motor cannot keep up with the built-in blower. Do not do this with just a vac. With the cyclone? I do not know. Maybe someone else on here does.
I have the similar Craftsman model as the one in the video. Yeah buddy, it's loud. I use hearing protection the moment I step into the shop. I need to get better at breathing protection. Nice video, nice product.
For air cleaners nothing beats the powermatic afc1250, it’s better than the big ones like your Laguna. I’m going to buy one at some point. I have a similar unit to you… it’s a little larger it same thing
I'm trying to setup a shop vac dust collection system, and my biggest issue is that NOTHING fits together. Like nothing. I've bought like 25 different adapters to go with my Dewalt shop vac and cyclone, and none fit. It's crazy how this isn't standardized. I even measured ID & OD on all hoses, ports, cyclone, tools, etc. and bought adapters accordingly, and they STILL do not fit! Most everything is designed for 2.5" but my hose is 2.25" and the cyclone is 2" iirc. It's comical how bad this is...
Great video and love your T-shirts! I'm looking to set up a small power workstation in my shop and toying with the idea of getting a bench top dust collector (either by PSI or Oneida) but I also have a one-stage dust collector so a down draft table may also be a good option. Just curious what you might recommend for power carving where I'll be using a Foredom and micro motor carver.
Would someone care to explain to me: Why does what amounts to be a plastic jug with a couple of hoses and pipes cost almost 3 times as much as a large capacity wet/dry vac? Dust Deputy FTW.
I believe that 90 degree bend is called a sweep or street or both depending areas you grew up in. Mostly used in drainage as it’s gravity fed really. Easiest path to remove waste aka dust.
The problem is have with the Rockler hose you showed is its weight. Often I set my sander down on the workbench and the weight of the hose drags it onto the floor with a crash.
So comparing the Dust right to the mullet, other than the more compact unit, is there a difference in quality of the collection? Is one better than the other?
would love to see your thoughts on the dewalt stealthsonic shop vacs, i have one and i think its great how much quieter it seems to be than my vacmaster
Hey Matt, I've had the Mullet Dust Cyclone for a few years now and love it. I've thought about building something to stack it on top of my wet vac, so it takes up less floor space, but never got around to it yet.
Great video as always, but holy particles Batman, the Mullet is USD 249.00 + USD 139.00 for the vacuum a total of USD 388.00, expensive. Granted the mullet has a perfect 5 star rating, however, both the orange and blue box stores have a USD 60.00 dust separator, and Onieda has a USD 120.00 system similar to the mullet.
Great and very informative video Matt! I'd love to see a comparison of the MULLET vs ONEIDA cyclone on top of a bucket (not their full-size system). I'm at a point now since I bought my CNC that I want to replace my Dustopper with something better - it's either the Mullet or the Oneida Dust Deputy 2.5.
I use a Dyson vac and a homemade cyclone interceptor (a plastic bucket with a couple of 3D printer nozzles in the lid) ... total cost £30. The Dyson has HEPA filters (hardly anything gets to the vac). Referencing the importance of dust masks ... I ended up in A&E when I emptied my dust collection vessels (bucket and the vac). The inside of my mouth and my tongue swelled up. So, masks are very important while working and cleaning. Love your videos. Derek (UK).
I just bought the Craftsman shop vac and an Oneida Dust Deputy 2.5. I'm hoping that combo will work for awhile until I'm ready to step up to something a little fancier. I'll check out the Rockler attachments combo, that looks pretty handy!
The good old Craftsman 16 gallon wet/dry vac has been a staple of small shops for decades. I am on my second one in roughly 30 years and I converted it to use HEPA filters. However, when it died I chose the DEWALT 9 Gallon STEALTHSONIC Ultra Quiet Poly Wet/Dry Vacuum, DXV09P-QTA to replace it as it is significantly quieter than the Craftsman and has better suction. I coupled that with the PRO, Low-Profile Dust Separator for Shop Wet/Dry Vacuums for a 5 gallon bucket and it works great with my different sanders, track saw, routers, and hand power tools. I wish they had made quiet vacuums like this years ago. I have since built in a customized Harbor Freight dust separator with a Oneida Air Systems Super Dust Deputy that dumps directly into a 30 gallon wheeled garbage can for my stationary power tools and have used it to collect dust from over 100K board feet of lumber I've processed. When I am processing a lot of wood, the dust collector dumps directly into my 16K dump trailer which holds over 6 cubic yards of shavings, chips, and sawdust. Over that period of time I've gone from a small garage based shop to a 2400 square foot shop. Dust collection has been a long incremental journey but the shop vac dust collection still is a successful choice for small shops.
Keep in mind when doing the sound comparison that sound level is done in sound pressure and it’s on a log scale with a weighting in this case weighting A. So Keeping that in mind, the sound pressure is doubling every 3 to 5 dBA. So the difference between 77dBA to 83dBA is actually twice as loud. Another thing to keep in mind is when your buying hearing protection noise reduction ratings are done in weighting-C so to avoid having to calculate the difference subtract seven from whatever the reading is and that’s roughly the protection you’re getting. An NRR of 27 is lowering the noise about 20dBA.
Matt, you should check out the DeWalt Stealthsonic series of dust vacs. I picked up the 9 gallon version and was shocked by how quiet it is. It's a little more expensive, but what a massive difference it makes. Great suction too. Hooked mine up to a cyclone and got a $30 remote control outlet switch. Love it. Now I'm thinking of picking up an additional 16 gallon version, and dedicating the smaller one to my miter saw station.
Great video as always! I got a Bauer wet/dry vac and the Bauer cyclone separator and they both work just fine even though the separator was smaller than I was expecting lol. I got the vacuum on sale for $40 and the separator is $40 both are at harbor freight. I work on my front porch so I don't have a shop, yet and hopefully I will be on RU-vid so that's a goal I have. Eventually I would love to have some big brand name equipment, however there is nothing wrong with starting off small. I'm always looking for an inexpensive way to do things so I can build up to the better stuff. I will let you know how that works out. Keep up the great work and stay safe.
Love your passion for tools! You have to try the RYOBI P738 power inflator. I don't know how I lived without it. Just enough wind to blow off any tool or surface in my shop without the overkill of the leaf blower which is defiantly the way to go as long as your wife's car isn't parked in front of the garage lol.
I think Shop Vac brand's HEPA filters will also fit the Craftsman vac. I have that brand and use the HEPA bags in the shop. In fact, I just googled for HEPA bags now, and I see that there are a lot more brand choices than say, six months ago. Cool. I had the Dust Right collector and it worked very well. However, it couldn't handle the dust from the DW 735 planer due to it's built-in chip blower. The chips blew right through the lid seal onto the floor. I switched to the Oneida Deluxe 10 Gal. which has been flawless. I also have the Ultimate for my Festool extractor. The Dust Right works great if you don't have the DW 735 planer.
I made a timber collection box that takes a big garbage bin bag, I retro fitted a Dust stopper cyclone (sealed with Sika 11FC), been using it for 4 years, still on the same bag in the shopvac as basically nothing gets through to the bag, only thing, I wish the hose that connects to the tablesaw was another 12" longer
@6:50 Regarding sanding, orbital sanders can gouge the workpiece if there is a lot of dust buildup on the surface; adding dust collection eliminates the issue. Yes, that's what the finer grits are for, but why make extra work for yourself?
I use one of the filter socks on a HEPA filter in shop vac along with a bag. I have had the bags pop off the connecter. The sock will clog, and some fines will find away though the top of the sock. I don't have a cyclone separator yet. I don't bother with a bag when using a plainer. If the sock is clogged, I hang it outside and let the weather clean it. As far as the filter I have a small post outside my shop door. I will stand up wind and blow the filter out with an air line and long blow gun.
