993 C4S, the ultimate classic Porsche? Specialist dealer 911virgin takes one for a spin. 

Glad it was useful !

Glad you enjoyed it. A very good looking car indeed.

I didn't think anyone would be interested in that old thing..... Leave it with me :-)

They certainly achieved classic status early in life.

The cheque is in the post.... :-) Thanks for taking the time to comment and enjoy your car.

They are indeed a great car.

Glad to hear. They are certainly a very well put together car, dare I say the product of engineers rather than accountants....

Hi there, thanks so much for the kind words, greatly appreciated. The channel is something of a work in progress which will no doubt spread out into wider Porsche related topics.

Nice, a late one :-)

Thanks. It was a car we had prepared for sale.

Thanks for the compliment.

Glad you enjoyed the video and keep driving the car. Great to see them out on the road.

Thanks for the kind words.

One day.... :-)

Glad you enjoyed watching. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Thank you. A classic combo from the era

Thanks for the kind words and look forward to hearing from you when the time is right :-)

Thanks for the kind words :-)

Thanks for the support, glad you enjoyed. The 993 is definitely a good looking car and a C4S only makes things better !

Glad to hear and thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated.

Hey, what can I say? Now you see why they don't let me loose on real customers. Company sales prevention officer.....

I'll be honest and say we probably take that rumble for granted as we hear it so often as cars are moved round the yard. Very nice when you hear them pushing on in anger. I do chuckle to myself making these videos. It's a hard job but someone's got to do it.....

Agree 👍🇺🇸

Thanks !

The 993 Turbo is a great car though. If you don't want it any more you know where we are...... :-)

Ah, I've always wondered how they did it. A bit like the ship in a bottle !

Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated.

Not too scruffy is it.

I'm not sure about that. Most of it is somewhere lurking in a dark corner, just a case of digging it out.

And he still had time to for Spandau Ballet. Oh no, that was Tony Hadley. We do have a talent for designing decent cars in the UK. British design flair combined with Germanic engineering. A world beating combination.

The 993 has always been a good looking car to the point where it became a classic long before it's time.

Not sure about that :-) but thanks for the support. Look after yourself.

Thanks for the kind words

Glad you liked it !

Glad you enjoyed it & thanks for taking the time to comment

The 991 is a great daily drive, no harm in popping a 993 in the garage for weekend trips out....

Thanks for the kind words :-)

How strange that two people would want to see that old thing..... I'll see what we can do.....

We might be featuring the GT4 in a future video. Stay tuned....

As a weekend toy convertible 911s do have a certain appeal. We sell quite a few of them although as they get older you tend to find the cabriolets deteriorate quicker than coupes so hard to find nice ones.

@@911virgin8 actually prefer the look of the targas

@@ghowells5433 I still remember seeing the first 993 Targa back in the day when launched in the UK - I think we sold the launch car several years later. A radical change form the 964 and back.

@@911virgin8 don’t think you can beat the look of the rollover hoop targa, never sure the big sunroof version was a real targa to be honest.

@@ghowells5433 For me that rear quarter window and roof line on a 911 coupe is pure comfort food.

They say you can't put a price on happiness. We try.

You do sometimes find that earlier cars can be smaller inside. Worth mentioning that it may be possible to move the seat back a bit on the mountings between the seat runner and the bodyshell. From memory the 993, 964 and 3.2 (G-series) cars have 2 mounting options. You have to drive with your legs apart either way.

I'm not sure the 993 is a GT car although precisely was constitutes a Grand Tourer I couldn't tell you.

Thanks for the kind words. Most of the cars you see with bi-plane rear spoilers tend to be aftermarket items. You could get a factory fitted kit and it was available retro from Porsche main dealers, I remember pricing it up in my youth at Chariots of St Albans and it was a fortune - more than this country boy earned. The aero kits are something of a marmite item here in the UK some people love them, others are not so keen.

Very kind of you to say. Thanks ! The cheque is in the post...... :-)

@@911virgin8 🤣🤣👍🏻

If I get the time before it goes on my list.

I will try to do one if the opportunity arises and cover the differences between them.

There is a difference in drive between the C2 and C4 however when owned as a classic car for Sunday coffee runs it is less of an issue. Also there is a lot of variance between individual cars depending on condition and what jobs people have done in terms of upgrade tweaks.

They are definitely a good choice. The reality and the pipe dream are on the same page in the book.

We sell a lot of 997s so they will definitely feature in various guises. Just a question of finding the time and something else popping in front of the queue.

Not sure where in the video that was but English never was my strong subject at school. I work hard to counter Dyslexia so bow unreservedly to your superior knowledge on the subject.

I always thought it was the other way round but you could well be right. It was a long time ago... :-)

@@911virgin8 if you look online you will see c2s have split grills and 4s has standard grills

Good cars command strong money. I would suggest broadening your colour choices to bring in as many cars as possible into your radar. Even then yo have your work cut out marrying condition and budget.

There isn't a right or wrong when it comes to cabriolet / coupe / targa just a case of what ever floats your boat. Tiptronics tend to be cheaper than manual gearbox cars and the coupe is certainly an industry standard although possibly as a second car the cabriolet compliments your daily driver. Cabriolets tend to age faster than coupes as there is cloth rather than metal and the interior gets open to the elements more but ultimately at this age it's down to the individual car. For sure the 993's popularity means values are strong. There isn't really anything below £30k here in the UK and a really good car will command considerably more. Worth remembering that come resale they will still be popular so it's just a case of lending the car it's value rather than losing it as you would do with a new vehicle.

​@@911virgin8 Thank you for the explanation, and it is a very valid point about lending the car it's value vs losing it. That is partially why I prefer a 993 over a 991, I expect the 991 to continue to depreciate a bit more, whereas the 993 is either going to hold steady or go up slightly. FWIW, I intend on driving this car, though it will share driving duties with 2 other cars. Based on your response, it seems I may have to pay a bit more for coupe. I'm located in San Francisco, and since I already own a roadster, it doesn't seem all that practical to have yet another softtop.

@@911virgin8 I eventually bought my 993, a Targa model from 1997 in Arctic Silver. I agree with your sentiments on this video. Absolutely amazed I own one, and looking forward to joining the Porsche community in my area.

No, I wouldn't expect it to have original paint, the roof might be but when they were 18 months old the main dealers would routinely paint the front end for stone chips prior to selling on. Paint for stone chips and minor scuffs is no issue provided carried out to a suitable high standard. Replacement panels / accident damage is a different matter.

There are sadly far more bad cars than good out there. Just make sure you know what you're buying. It can be a very costly exercise sorting out problems. By the best car you can.

Yes, it was an option. This particular particular car has the hollow spokes. Very clever technology.

My 993 Cabriolet 1996 was delivered with 17'' Cup wheels. The second owner then changed them with the so called 18'' Turbo Design wheel (which was not hallow) In my understanding only the 993 Turbo had the hallow Turbo Technology wheel

A lot of the underpinnings of the 4 wheel drive 993 were first seen on a 959 so I guess there is a link.... I'd say the 959 was a rich mans 911.

….agree somewhat, in design; especially the headlights integrated into the body. The 993 is much more refined and the most significant statement made in this video, is when he said, “…it feels like it’s carved out of a block of granite”. So very accurate. (1997 C4 Cabrio ,98 K)

What an interesting car ! They do have a finite value and without wanting to sound like a politician dodging the question we would need to see it to put a number on the car. 5 or 10% of condition could make 50% difference to the value. The number on the speedo dictates the most you can ask, the car its self the value up to that point. If you ever want to sell it get in touch. Rather than offer a trade bid on the car we would suggest using our sales platform and ongoing customer support to do it on a sale or return / consignment basis ensuring the car achieves full retail price. With the Boxster now 25 years old - where did the time go, it would be an interesting car to slip into a collection as a modestly priced addition.

@@911virgin8 thanks for replying I will post a video and photos on RU-vid when I can I'll let you know when it's uploaded thanks again for your time 😎👍

We will do a 993 turbo at some point in the future.

lets see whats the milage of urs?, is it garage queen or its like mine, 137k miles and still going super strong

@@sinazahedinejad7007 That one had done around 85,000 from memory.

The tiptronic gearbox of a 993 has obviously been superseded by the PDK in more modern cars but in the 1990's Tiptronic was quite advanced in the way it monitored your driving and changed gear accordingly. There isn't a wrong or a right, different people want different gearboxes.

@@911virgin8 The tiptronic is so much fun I find the PDK boring

@@zeusmojo9301 I don't think I would claim the PDK box is bad, it's a very clever bit of kit and used properly can add to the driving experience. I'm playing with a PDK box 991 at the moment and having a great time. Video on it to follow at some point.

Headlights are certainly similar.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. 🙂

From a collectors point of view probably not the first choice but ultimately you should buy what you want and enjoy using. Far too many people buy what they think other people want them to drive !!

The 993 C4S didn't have a fixed rear spoiler. The 993 turbo had a fixed rear spoiler to house the massive inter-cooler set up.

aint no whale tail. all 993 have a rear spoiler that pops up above 80km/h

@@harryw9598 turbo doesn’t have the pop up spoiler and I’ve seen plenty of 4s the with the same thing. However these are either an option at factory or possibly dealer fit.

Nice one :-)

Thought you sold that car.

Everything in life has a downside if you look hard enough. I'm a pot half full kind of guy and try to look for the positive in life.

@@911virgin8 that really is amazing for you but I meant the car, it's like there is not a single fault with it and it's perfect. Every new Porsche is flawless like the one before it, and before that and before that....

@@happygorilla8518 Ah I see. 🙂

The 992 is huge Grand Tourer car