Check out Dan the Wolfman's (MMA and movie actor) ballistic test video with Critical Duty 9mm ammunition here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3dy0oKJbnz4.html
Please don’t listen to anybody hating on you for whatever gun or ammo you’re reviewing. If they want a review on a particular firearm I’m sure you’d be more than happy to do it if they send you the money to buy it. Funny how people never mind spending somebody else’s money. Thank you for your reviews I very much enjoy them
It's a Taurus 905 review. If they want an LCR review why are they watching? My LCP has been perfect. His has been less than stellar. That's not an attack on me personally, it's just reality. As long as it fires the rounds he needs for his test it's immaterial. He has reliable guns for carry.
We can't all be 24/7 fanboys....Negative comments are just as valuable to RU-vid analytics/ad revenue, as positive comments. I personally don't give 2 sh*ts about the firearms he uses, I'm here for the great content/ammo reviews and crystal clear ballistic gel. That being said, I cheaped out and settled for Taurus products a couple of times in the past and I regretted both times. I'll never buy another.
@@chadster7547 How many decades ago? They have a whole new management for the last eight or so years, and have sold MILLIONS of guns to happy customers who keep on buying more Tauruses........................elsullo
For all the folks that criticize you for the tools you buy to create content with, I would really appreciate it if they would post links to THEIR ballistics testing videos so we can see what THEIR content looks like.
@@GunSamI’d like to see more about revolvers with titanium cylinders. Apparently they affect the trigger feel being so light. I’m interested in a stainless revolver with a light big titanium cylinders like a 8 shot 9mm or 38/357 .
I do prefer quality over quantity, and budget over Broke. Not everybody is Garand thumb or Demolition ranch, You don't Need to have the latest and greatest to make a quality video like you do. Ps That pez reloader. was some next level redneck ingenuity. 👍 💯
Wonder if the people complaining about Taurus firearms are as eager to fund through donations, to your purchase budget. Don't worry, I'll hold my breath for you.
Your invention is brilliant! Gonna pick up one of those 33 round sticks to give some new life to my 692. Can't wait to see the look on the shop guys face when I tell him it's for my revolver "It takes Glock mags!"
@@sinisterthoughts2896hey you know a manufacturer could create a 9mm and call it the 9 mm rim for revolver. Make the rim just a little bit bigger. Just a thought 🤔
Never wanted a 9mm revolver cause I didn’t want to deal with moon clips. After watching you reload with a 9mm magazine my mind was blown and now im considering a 9mm revolver. Thank you!!!! Love your videos, been a subscriber for years.
I have no issues with the brand of firearms you choose to utilize in your presentations. (The more revolvers, the better!) In fact, it shows your integrity and transparency when creating each presentation. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do them. They are greatly appreciated. (Keep 'em coming!)
Back in the early 1990's I picked up a new Smith & Wesson model 940 with a 3-inch barrel in 9MM. It's stainless with an internal hammer so it's double action only. They were made from about 1991 to 1998 and came with either a 2-inch or 3-inch barrel. I called S&W once to asked them a question and was told that the 3-inch barrel model was only made for one year with the remainder of the production in 2-inch. I still have the gun and occasionally shoot it. I think Charter Arms also makes a five shot revolver in 9MM and 40 S&W. The 40 would be a hand full. Keep up your videos and forget about the whinners!
@@LibertysetsquareJack Both the 40 and the 45ACP would be "Fun Guns". Father time has caught up with me, so I don't get to do as much shooting as I once did. I have a Colt 1911 series 70 that I did carry as a duty weapon at one time. Along with it I have a Thompson Contender with a 10-inch barrel in 45ACP. My real 45ACP "Fun Gun" is a custom-made bolt-action rifle in .45ACP. If I run across one of the Bull Dogs, I'll probably manufacture an excuse to buy it. Take care!
Thanks Gun Sam for sharing about your health issues, it gives me courage to actually post the video I made over the weekend where I talk a little bit about mine (scheduled for Thursday).
I have owned 20+ Taurus handguns, mostly pistols, and have never had an issue with any of them. Still own 3 pistols and one revolver, all outstanding firearms. 👍
Sam the magazine loading 9mm revolver was one of the most ingenious things I've seen in a while! Along with the extraction added on! This guy has practical handgun world figured out. I literally never miss a video sir. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for doing this. Approximate 5% velocity loss drops a 124 grain bullet from 318 ft lbs to 287 ft lbs; not enough to make a difference, I think.
Once you get to a certain threshold, there's lots of stuff that doesn't matter anymore like over 350 ft lbs energy with 9mm HP's. Great thing about the 905, with how it's built I have no problem with running 9mm +P+ through it. Or just hot +P. I see Buffalo Bore and Underwood 9mm+P VS .38 Special+P tests in my future, revolvers only. Edit; I will have to be careful of bullet creep with the hotter rounds.
Always has been. People really overestimate the effect of cylinder bleed but it was never significant factor why people think semi-auto is better than revolver.
First time catching one of your reviews, will be back to see more! Sorry to hear people hating on your reviews, your presentation was great and informative. For some of us, on a smaller budget than others, I appreciate the review on the taurus models! I have a G3c and am picking up the 605 T.O.R.O. on Friday. Thanks again, sir!
Many of us watching have the same issue. I'd love Smith & Wesson or a Colt but I own a Taurus. Your views are more useful than reviews for guns I can't afford.
The guy at the gun store saw I was getting a 9mm revolver, he joking was like "are you sure you don't want that Jerry Miculek performance center 9mm revolver, it's only $3,500.00.
I agree with Justanotherdave , Please don’t listen to anybody hating on you for whatever gun or ammo you’re reviewing. Its those whiners that tend to squeak the loudest sometimes but the majority of us love and respect the work and reviews you do. I bought my 2nd Taurus this year as I have much more faith in their new management and the new Bainbridge GA USA plant, thats now about 3-4 yrs old. Its a Model 44 6" 44 mag/ Special revolver. My 1st Revolver! Largely thanks to your reviews and 44 Mag /Spl. Ammo tests.
I owned a Taurus model 85 steel snubby revolver in 38 special and it was a very reliable, trustworthy firearm. Never, ever, had any issues with it. In over 35 years I haven't had any problems with it. Would love to own a 605 someday as well. I have heard some other models of Taurus having some issues (like the 856 as you mentioned).
I probably have the same Taurus 85 generation as you. The trigger could be lighter but also no issues either in over 35 years!! I did replace the OEM wood grips with Pachmayr G10 for better recoil management.
Nothing wrong with a 9mm revolver! I love my LCR in 9mm. At first I wasn't sure about the moon clips, but it has worked out well. I also have the same gun in 357 (same steel frame) and the recoil of the124 grain Federal HST +P is slightly more than 38 +P but definitely less than 357 rounds. No issues with crimp jump after several hundred rounds. More economical to shoot vs. 38 and 357 too! Good choice!
I went to buy a new revolver and it was down to a 9mm or a lcr 357. The shop owner gave me a smoking deal on the lcr so it went home with me. Id still like to have, or at least try, a 905 myself.
@@LA_Commander it is the 357. Its the first gen lcr, not the lcrx. I originally wanted the hammer version, but the deal was too good to pass up. And the best mod ive made so far, other than an xs big dot, was the pachmayr diamond grip. I feel good taking it anywhere.
@@Brykk That's an awesome gun! You can practice at the range with 38 special, and carry 357 for when you need it. Very good revolver. I hope you enjoy it! And if you got a great deal on the price, so much the better.
I have a Taurus 905 that I use "star clips" pretty much exclusively. I have some Taurus clips and several TK after market clips. While your loader is a good idea, I like the clips. I fill a bout 10-12 clips with cartridges and take them, loaded to the range, I made a simple tool for installing and removing cartridges from the clips. After the first clips are fired, I take a break and reload several. I use them just like speed loaders. Thanks for the good, informative videos.... BTW I too have several Taurus handguns and so far they are 99% reliable, no major problems whatsoever (5 revolvers from 1988, and 3 semi autos from 2017). So ignore the Taurus haters and continue with the real life, good reports!
Personally I'm not a Taurus fan only because I bought one that never worked good, but that was a long time ago and only my case. You do what you need to do for you, I enjoy your content and appreciate what you do, I look forward to seeing more from your channel.
I have been lucky, I bought two Taurus revolvers (605 and the Tracker) and both are great. I bought them when I started watching your channel four years ago
I appreciate the fact that you continue testing taurus even after the issues in the past. It helps Taurus owners have confidence in the revolver they own. Thanks for the informative uploads on your channel.
Used to own a 905. Was my first revolver. 10 rd 1911 9mm mag was easy to carry. First 5 rds were the moon clips, then the "Pez" for reloads. Worked so well, I now use a .357 Desert Eagle mag for my 642. Just more convenient than carrying a speed strip or speed loader. Love your vids, love the budget firearms. You always come up with creative ideas to test.
I have 2 Taurus handguns one of which is a 9mm revolver. Both are accurate and reliable. I'm sure I probably got lucky. Looking forward to some more tests wit that 905.
Honestly they aren't near as bad as people say. They are usually fine, they just had low QC back in the day, so lemons would show up. They aren't the disposable zip gun quality rumors would have you believe. I don't hesitate to carry a taurus, and I have plenty of options in my collection.
Enjoy your new gun. I've always wanted the Taurus .380 revolver, but I haven't bought one yet. It's just so cute and tiny. I bet that 905 will shoot .380s fine with the moon clips. Well again, enjoy it, and I look forward to your videos.
I've seen people do it, but from my understanding it might be similar to shooting .22 LR in a .22 Mag revolver. It will do it, but it don't shoot them quite right, case expansion and big velocity drop.
The .380 case will not headspace on the cylinder rim so a lot of blast will go past the bullet. Don't ask me how I know that........................elsullo
You have definitely opened up the possibilities for some cool ballistic testing. We all talk about barrel cylinder gap, but there isn't a load of data out there. This is going to be cool. Thank you.
I appreciate the 9mm snubbie revolver test. I bought a two inch 940 back in the early 90s. Same era of the 640s that were rated for +p+. I figured the 940 would safely run 9BPLE and 124 grain +p+ Hydra Shok; possibly some Winchester 115 +p+. The hot rounds have no trouble. For the next range session I tried some 147 Hydra Shok subsonic. The gun locked up and the cylinder wouldn’t open till it cooled down. I had it sent back to S&W. Came back allegedly fixed with no explanation so I traded it for a 640. Considered having the 640 bored out to 357 Mag but decided there were better things to do. Moons with no tool are pains. I wish now I’d kept the 940 and considers TK conversions on another Centennial but also saw they recommend standard pressure ammo. Anyway, appreciate your efforts.
If you get a Taurus and it runs good, it's going to run as good and as long as a better brand. The problem is that getting a bad Taurus that has issues clearly seen in the first box of ammo, is at a higher chance of happening.
When you are testing ballistics the gun you use has no bearing. Same barrel. Same tolerances. If it fires and goes through the barrel, the price of the firearm has no bearing. Using it as a defense carry will. Reliability. But not ballistics. Please do a ballistics gel test for this gun. I'm very interested to see the results. Your video will probably be the one that makes me decide to buy a 9mm revolver or not. Your channel is my go to for a lot of this stuff. A lot more in depth testing. I appreciate the extra mile you go through to test this stuff. There will always be haters. Don't pay attention to that crap. Keep doing what you are doing. There are a lot of us that appreciate all you are doing. Don't worry about the nitpickers that will find every little thing to complain about. No matter what you do they will always complain. Always. Don't pay attention to them.
I am concerned about bullet jump in the cylinder- a known issue with 9mm revolvers. One was to test for this is to measure the 5 rounds before firing. Insert them into the cylinder, fire 4, then measure the last unfired round. I love the 9mm revolver concept btw.
Hey Sam 3 things, one really enjoy your work. Two people don't look at the new taurus product. I was taurus hater in the past (1990's). The new product are pretty darn good. Three don't let take the arm chair critics to heart. Thanks for doing what you do.
Great shooting and great review. I am a Firearm instructor and used to use taurus revolvers in my class one new 82 and one used. Within a week in different classes. The entire crane and the cylinder came out of the new 82. And one week later the used 82 seized up in a snap cap drill. I don't recommend them any more.
Frankly I'm glad you use the less expensive guns. Not only does that mean we get more content, but I think it is much more representational of what folks are likely to have. I have a very strong affinity to S&W revolvers and Walther autos, BUT I have had my share of guns from Rossi, Llama (micromax in my truck now), Kel-Tec, etc, etc. Hell, at one time if you looked at what most cops carried as BUGs or OD weapons they were guns from Taurus, Kel-Tec, Iver Johnson (TP22), even Jennings. Yes, Jennings (most cops are perpetually broke .. show up with a bougie S&W or pricey Colt and suddenly folks wanted to know if we were on the same pay scale, LOL). Sorry long-winded way of saying you do you and I, for one appreciate the way you make your content.
Back when I lived in a country that allowed handgun ownership, I ended up choosing a Taurus 605 with a 3" barrel. Very accurate, reliable, and the trigger was awesome, double action smooth, trigger pull was relatively light. Single action, the trigger pull was light and glass breakingly crisp. It was made in Brasil, though. I did have to swap the original wooden grips for rubber grips similar to yours.
Taurus firearms have gotten A LOT better in the last few years: have a 905 too & use reloaded .38S&W rimmed cartridges --> trimmed cases to 9mm length (.38S&W almost same size) & using the lower spectrum of 9mm load data = works flawlessly & make for a fun day at the range in case I forget my moonclip tool. Also, TK Custom clips are better that the Taurus ones. Cool video!
Nothing wrong w/Taurus for what you’re doing w/them. Some viewers just like to complain but I always learn something from your videos. The only Taurus I owned was one of their tiny .380 pistols that I eventually traded for one of the unofficial second generation LCPs that I still carry.
You are educated and knowledgeable about this stuff way more than I could ever be and most people so please don't ever listen to haters or anything trust in yourself God loves you
What kind of crazy rocket surgery sorcery has this man performed? That reloading device quickly went from wtf? to I want! Awesome channel - always great content!
Great informative video. Keep doing what you’re doing. I work at a gun store, and see multiple people buying, just for the latest and greatest, and I’ve owned several Taurus pistols, and never had an issue, not to mention their lifetime warranty.
I have had a Taurus M380 for like 12 years and i love it. The moon clips make quick reloads and the TK custom moon clips work better than the factory ones too. One of my favorites in the carry rotation.
Lord knows if I had a small chunk of money and was in the area, I'd give a nice 10mm auto to the channel. Keep up the good work, GS. Always enjoyable and always learn at least something.
Sam, I have had great experience with Taurus - much better than you've had I guess... The only problem is that now you have me looking at a 905 revolver lol. Thanks for the review.
Always value your opinion. I learned why moon clips exist. I have always wondered bout .9 mm revolvers. I have $3 k guns and still like my 605 snuby.357
Cool gun. I have thought about a 9mm revolver as well. I was looking at the Lcr or Sp101, but same idea, and it is a good one. Thanks for the video. And feel free to ignore those who question your choices. And I love the home made tool
I've never owned a Taurus, but I have shot them. They're okay. I would take one of these over a Ruger LCR just because it's made of steel. I'm an old fucker and I like plastic, but I don't love it. I love steel. Blued steel. Nickle plated steel. Chrome plated steel. Stainless steel. I love steel. I am intrigued by the 9mm revolver, but I have a long standing love affair with the .38 Special cartridge. The .38 special was the first center fire handgun cartridge I ever shot, so it has a special place in my heart. I shot IPSC for five years, so I have fired tens of thousands of rounds through autoloaders. But the revolver is truly special to me. The looks and the way revolvers operate and the way they feel in the hand. They are truly beautiful. Steel ones, that is. Did I mention I have a long standing love affair with the .38 Special Revolver?
ive had 2 Ruger 9mm revolvers over the years. LCR and Speed 6...both of them had bullet seperation issues out of about 10 different quality loads...never found a load that didnt have at least some seperation by the 4th round
Turned that magazine into a Pez dispenser! love it! I did not know that extractors more or less fail on a 9mm revolver. Thanks for the explanation on that.
Thanks for all the content you give us even under strict budgets. Don't listen to those haters. I appreciate your videos and your calm demeanor and information. Have a good one sam!
I have a Charter Arms 6 inch 9mm Revolver no moonclips has a extractor that will eject rimless rounds I carry Glock mags for quick reloads works surprisingly fast I squirrel hunt with it using ball ammo very little meat damage... And anyone complaining about what you spent your money on tell them to pound sand lol
In the case of people complaining about Taurus I have a M85 Titanium Ultra-lite never had a problem with it and I have had it since 2004. I have also in that 20 years bought a S&W revolver and had to send it in for warranty work 2 times. I’m not saying Taurus is better but I have a 15 year old $800 S&W that I don’t 100% trust. Even the big name brands put out less than stellar Quality products from time to time.
I appreciate your content very much. Very clear presentation, well controlled consistent testing with repeatable results, details about different ammo used, different barrel lengths, the different cam angles superimposed, just a quality presentation overall. On your way to 100k subs for sure. Keep up the good work and thank you. One of my favorite gun tubers.
Glad you did this test. I ordered a 905 3in Talo edition a few days ago. I also ordered a MBT Bold Grip off eBay for it. Can't wait to see how it shoots.
The idea of the magazine is brilliant... You can carry that piece as backup for your semi auto and reload it from your spare mags if your main gun fails... That's great thinking...
I appreciate the content that you provided here. Any objective information that you provide is greatly appreciated - regardless of the gun manufacturer. Keep up the good work, and ignore the trolls!
Long time revo shooter here. Also shot USPSA Revo Division (the old one) and IDPA SSR. My experience with auto cartridges in sixguns has always shown significant velocity loss compared to the similar auto, and sometimes worse. I had a '70s Smith Model 25 with those ridiculous .458" cylinder throats- that thing could hardly get a 230 grainer to move. So your minimal loss between those two guns is really pretty good. At the extreme end of things, I have a 686 with a conversion cylinder cut for .38 Super. Yeah, with 9x23 Winchester it's heckuva thing. The 125 soft points make 1380fps out of the 4" revo and 1450fps out of a Commander (4 1/4"). Some seriously hot stuff. What I don't get is the aversion so many revolver shooters have toward moonclips, as evidenced here. Heck, I'd go to a match with a full plate of loaded moons for my .45ACP revolver and never had to putz around filling mags, clips, nothing, all day long. The first time I got a moon gun I thought it was a great idea. Now, .45ACP clips are really cheap and buying fifty or a hundred is no big deal. The only "problem" is that you can shoot so much ammo so quickly the gun will get red-hot before you know it because you're not taking breaks to fill cylinders, speedloaders, magazines, or whatever. Even the .38 Super moons, which can get to be a bit pricey, especially if you get the higher-end TK Custom ones, are still a good investment. Then all you need is a short hunk of 1/2" copper water pipe with a cap on one end and a file, and you've got 30-cent demooner to take the work out of it.
I think it makes perfect sense why you go for Taurus tools. I own a 22TX compact, 66 and M44 myself. All of those guns work very well for me. And as good as a shot you are, the slightly heavier trigger that comes with the Taurus revolvers, is something you easily master. Looking forward to your upcoming presentations using the new tool. I was eyeing one myself but couldn't come to terms with myself if it makes sense from a self defense pov compared to carrying a compact 9mm.
Good acquisition. I have a 905. I am hoping you do a full comparison between this 905 and a 2" Taurus revolver in 38 special. That's why I got the 905. Same footprint but possible better ballistics and maybe faster to reload or unload... thank you.
I also bought the Taurus 905 because of the price point difference. I don't have a problem with the moon clips. I also have a Ruger LCR (1 1/2inch) in .357 and LCRx (3 inch) in .38 special. Other than being slightly lighter I don't find much appreciable difference in use. What I have yet to see is ballistic data from the 1 1/2 inch and 2 inch barreled revolvers. Accuracy is very similar between the three revolvers. I keep all three in pocket holsters with no difference between the two snubby revolvers as far as space goes. What I find lacking is good ballistic data for defensive loads from these short revolver barrels. Btw I can safely carry two loaded moon clips in a plastic box for Daisy Slingshot ammo.
Sam, once again, you have not only put out an interesting video but also one with content very relevant to what I have been thinking about. That is the value of a 9mm revolver. I was particularly interested in, and happy with, the chrono results. The fact that the velocity matched the 125 38spl results you've gotten in the past makes my decision. Now I just have to decide on how important the 6th round I can get with the 38spl is to me. Your improvised loader is a great idea too. TY
Sam excited to see your testing. I already filmed my upcoming Charter Vids 6" 9mm I loaded from a mag in it, .40 Snub I LOVE Mag or Zeta6 works, and Bling LW 6shot .38 Undercover 2 I want to this week if it will stop storming. May get either an 856 UL or a 905 soon too. And my Taurus 692 has been awesome over 4 years now, and Gx4 Carry is my main Summer Carry even though I could carry others! Tons of Revolver content coming mixed in with Auto reviews. For actual pocket Backup Gun would you guys choose .40 Snub in winter, and 6 shot .38 either the Bling Undercover 2 or Bling 856 UL both 16 ounces for summer!
